Topic: [OPEN] Confirmed*PAID* USA NO VAT KnC Neptune#3 - .25 BTC = 17 Shares = ~60 Gh/s - page 60. (Read 131525 times)

Walter White?

Seriously, highly appreciating what you're doing here! This needs to be rewarded!
But please don't let them fool you/us. I don't know whether ragin does have personal/family issues. If so, I sincerely hope he'll cope with it. The problem is: There's a lot of BTC involved here, and even more important: there may be a scam going on, hurting a lot of people. And in this case, given all the inconsistencies, I think it'll be best to shut this operation down. The tactics being used (there'll be a conference, you can meet me/us in NY, one miner has been paid for, the Avalon clone parts have been paid for to some extent) are typical for shady companies or companies struggling with demand/supply like BFL or Yifu's delayed batches.
They're giving us basically one tiny "proof" at a time, while ignoring others. This delays things severely. This also suffices for some people (wishful thinking, Stockholm Syndrome, etc.). We need to act now.

I propose the following items that need to be taken care of:

- WE need to decide what we want to achieve. Some are still hoping for the miners to be delivered, some are indifferent, some haven't noticed, and so on... We have to decide on a common goal (Refund everything; refund everything that's not been invested with KnC - needs to be proven; wait for ragin to do something). I propose to refund everything. If orders have indeed been placed and paid for, let's talk with KnC and cancel the miner or at least transfer the mining operation to someone else (maybe an ongoing KnC groupbuy which has already several miners ordered.) If money has been transferred to KnC, it is a good sign. We can talk with them.

- Proof, that (a part of the miners) has indeed been paid for. I'd like to receive this proof from KnC themselves. A screenshot doesn't constitute a proof in this case. This may be achieved with the conference call, as well.

- Organize and conduct a conference call with someone of us (e.g. danieldaniel, or someone else), John K., and someone from KnC (make sure that WE call their number, so it's not them setting up a friend of theirs with a swedish accent.). This call has to take place within 48 (better 24) hours! No more delays! Extra points if we record the call.

okaaay, so I just logged on for the 1st time in 2 weeks, looks like this is a scam..  what's the best way to go about a pp dispute?  they have the steps listed on their site..  should I say it's an "unauthorized transaction"?  or should I say he's a "scammer" lol...  I don't want to claim the wrong thing & have it thrown out

*gasp* You got me.

What if.... danieldaniel is prodigits is ragingazn628....

Hmm...

I added my address to the spreadsheet, by the way.

You can probably talk with him, too, his Skype is neoasics.

But I don't get what's going on with the screenshot.

It's just so fishy that prodigits will skype with you and ask everyone to "calm down" when almost all fear would be eliminated if a screenshot of the orders would simply be posted here. Seriously though, how difficult is it to post a screen-shot?

Ahh, sorry

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Refund addy?

Hey Daniel,

I noticed I wasn't on your sheet and would like to be.  Here is my info

2 shares on the Jupiter 1 1.1 BTC

TXID: 974414f4f90c3da9087645c1c9b5e1925b501c6695dfcec37173aeed93fbc2ee

1Share on Jupiter 2

Sent .9 BTC for 1 share of Jupiter 2

TX ID: 365d5fc3a20d500849a8edece0c6d3193372d7a5d177f186b65218b1270acd7b-000

No problem. 

Many thanks Daniel for making the sheets and following up with everyone.

Heh, well, if he doesn't go through with the group buy as promised, I'm still suing him in small claims.  I have up to 6 YEARS to do that.

I hear what you are saying, lets say they screen shot everything, you get on the call and validate with KNC that is only the first part. They have nothing to lose by telling you to stay calm.
If some people are getting refunds I can only imagine what the excuses will be when it comes time for payouts.
Honestly it does not matter what happens these guys have already proved they are not trust worthy by ignoring this thread and the chip thread. It doesn't change much that you Skyped with Pro considering no one even knows who this guy is and was not part of the group buy until Rag was absent for weeks.

I am just glad I am only getting fleeced for a few hundred. I hope the guys with more invested find a way to get a refund.

 

Another dupe?

I mean, I'm still a little iffy.  They said that they will post screenshots of orders...

I'll feel a lot better after a conference call with KNC.  I'm going to be a part of it, so I can verify everything on here after the call.

This is what they want. This proves nothing and possibly buys time.
Again I want to point out that even if the miners are on order these guys are going to fuck you. If it is this sketchy ordering imagine the bullshit you will hear when it comes time for dividends.
I have not heard John K say he is working on anything with these guys other than "it doesn't look good" 

Tom  (tom.technologies) why don't your meet with Daniel in person in CT and show him the orders forget a KNC conference call.
If all this is validated by a non puppet then he should put coins in an account as collateral with John K if he is serious about continuing this. Other than that there is no salvaging here guys be logical. Think about it all of this could have been solved in ten minutes by posting the orders here on BT.

If he can't even post in this thread you have to be nuts to listen to some guy with a newly created account with or without Skype. If you have Paypal do yourself a favor and get your money back.
The rest of us will be bent over.

FYI:


Also:

You got a refund from his roommate (Stephen), who owns the paypal account that ragingazn was using, not ragingazn himself (Tom)

Thanks, danieldaniel, for all that you've been doing! My decision for getting a refund is going to hinge on this now, so hopefully some good news will come out of the KNC Miner call.

I'm on Jupiter 2 still, I have not got a refund.

I've sent PMs, mails, neo-asics contact form... nothing.