Topic: Opinion on the US - page 11. (Read 18959 times)

not true, in fact it's just the opposite.

Not much of an endorsement is it.

"we're not as bad as NK" (yet)

AMERICA IS EVIL 

All bad that you can imagine in today's world is somewhere related to world-wide actions of America.

They create their own terrorists then, tell them to attack the country they need oil from. Then, after a attack  they show the world they are the saviors and send their army in thousands to that country. And inside they smuggle all the resources of that country.

- 9/11 was done by America itself, to create a fake Osama named puppet and get resources from Afghanistan. 

- GM seeds from america have spread all over the world to spread cancer, so that their tie up with medical industries reaches new heights while more & more people buy cancer treatment.

- The western medicine is a trap, when you buy a medicine it stops the symptoms of one disease, and inturn spreads another disease so you have to buy more medicines, and on and on in a cycle ~

- They spend billions on warfare technology but not on positive thing for example like how vehicles can get a alternative natural fuel or run on solar power.

..much more I can write a whole book on this. Its high time the world needs to know of the bad deeds of America

the way i see america right now.. is that it is falling apart. more and more groups of people are becoming extreme, especially the white southerners. this is starting to cause some racial/cultural unrest, as they are seeing greater numbers of non-whites coming into the country (that's why there's so much xenophobia on fox news). meanwhile, the people living in metropolitan cities are becoming more diverse, tolerant and liberal.

the problem is that rich people are using the ignorance of white conservatives.. they are basically the foot soldiers doing the dirty work (and profit from it). oddly enough, upper class conservatives are pushing this non-education agenda, and it seems to be working.

democrats on the other hand are offering free shit to buy approval of the poor/ethnic classes.

On the other hand, there are notable segments of our society where free thinking and a fairly healthy quasi-rejection of standard consumer-centric materialism are pronounced.  I'm thinking of the hippie types I grew up around, but many of them still exist in more or less the same form, and a segment of the younger population follows that general mold.  Perhaps there are such segments in most countries, but I have not seen much sign of it.  I'll bet that there is something similar going on in some of the more developed Western countries, but I have my doubts that the same thing exists in nearly such percentages in East Asia, Russia, etc.

it's kind of hard to generalize a country of 300 million, much less a country of 3 million. it's really hard to make a judgment on american society, since there are so many pieces to the pie.. but generally speaking, i think the negative opinion of americans is justified. compared to the rest of the developed world, i think we love our guns and we're definitely more capitalistic. we have more big corporations that exist only to suck the life of out of the general population, and then we have lots of bible thumping science haters.

Don't you think that it is not right to illegally cross the border and then bash the government of the country who still give you shelter and people who pay taxes to keep you alive, while you work for cash and do not pay taxes? If you hate that country so much, why you do not leave to better place?
This country can be just better without people who want a free pie.

What are you talking about? Ask Russians and they still believe that Russia is not empire, despite that Russia was always empire and got a lot of surrounding countries under. And continuous to do so (see 2008 conflict in Georgia). So, again, what countries admit that they are empires?

Thanks to this government you still can say it loud.
Try to do this somewhere in North Korea.

This is hilarious   But that effectively sums it up; option 3, being the refusal of self-destruction, will never be found on a ballot.


I'm glad you like it; it's one of mine   The logic is sound to me now, though it wasn't perhaps a year ago, before I'd begun to really explore philosophy; it reminds me of a quote by Aristotle, "I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law."  He's not my most favorite philosopher, but I believe he makes a valid point: the law doesn't make sense to a person who is unaware of why the law is there to begin with, and so either the unknowing individual should be educated on such matters (schools conveniently leave out philosophy from the core curriculum, so I've noticed), or the individual must be threatened into following the law, but if it's the latter case, why bother with law at all?--it leaves the person out of the function of law-making, which effectively cuts society in two, creating the disparity between the rulers and the ruled.  It delves into this form of lawlessness that we're all too familiar with, the kind Hitler and the Kim Jong lineage have showed us, where the law is so supreme and sacred that it melts away into the tiny portion of people who create it and thus, no longer represents any form of the philosophy, just the passing whims of whichever dictator is in charge at the time.

Anyhow, the way I see it, if one man is intelligent enough to pass law, and most of us are beyond the idea that some men are gods, it should reflect that we're all capable of following and acknowledging commonly agreed upon laws without need for a supreme being to guide us, and yet we're still here, still following man-gods out of fear of the unknown, as though we've made no improvements since ancient Egypt.  Strange times.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless,
Tempest-tossed to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame is the imprisoned lightning,
And her name, Mother of Exiles.
From her beacon-hand glows world-wide welcome;
Her mild eyes command the air-bridged harbor
That twin cities frame.
"Keep, Ancient Lands, your storied pomp!"
Cries she with silent lips.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless,
Tempest-tossed to me
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

(  Misery loves company )

You did better than I did. I was in my thirties before I figured out that practically everything I was taught as US history in school was either whitewashed, misdirected, or just plain fiction. It took becoming seriously involved in the system and seeing it from the inside to realize just how well the system works. This is why I started questioning all "reforms" and "reformers". It eventually led me to the philosophy I espouse today. Anarchism. Not really the traditional anarchism that so many on Youtube and similar venues ascribe to, but the basic definition: No kings. I'll not go into depth about it here, especially since judging by our respective posting histories our views are similar. But what I think that most americans either cannot or do not realize is that the system they are trying to "fix" during the pseudo election cycle isn't broken. It works as designed, as a diversion.

On the subject of the elections, I once used this as an analogy to what voting in an american election really is.

You walk into a small room. On your left is a Beretta 92FS, on your right is a Glock 17. Both excellent weapons, with slightly different characteristics, but the same overall performance. You then choose one of them, point it at your head and pull the trigger.

Which is the lesser evil?


I really like this. Is that original?

That's a good point you're making; I didn't learn that America was an empire (nor was I really aware of what empires were at the time) until I'd gotten into my college U.S. Government course, where my professor keyed me in on the fact.  I believe this is intentional; as the methods of ruling become even more deceptive, I'm finding that the reasons why the state must own the schools is specifically to instill this modified version of history; it's best when your cattle are unaware of their ultimate demise, especially when they're so intelligent otherwise and about other things, otherwise they might get to thinking (as folks like you and I have taken to) that their owners don't have their best intentions in mind; ignorance is strength, and there's no force greater than an angry, unknowing nation of 300 million finding anything at all to put their blame into, anything at all but the source of their anger; they're designed not to figure it out, and it so far has been a success.

Hmm. Based on this, the ENTIRE history of Christianity is at odds with the bible.

Oh.

Wait.

It is.

Otherwise you'd be killing every one... Oh.
Wait.

Your rulers are.

I'll do it. Some of you will like the results. I guarantee I won't lie about my Imperial ambitions. And I won't pussy around about conquest either. All of the Americas would be my first goal. Fuck the rest of the world for now. I'll just take the Americas. Once I recall the troops from N. Africa, Central Asia, and the middle east, I'll take Canada. They have high tech, but not a big enough army to withstand me. Then, Mexico. They are numerous and would make good conscripts. I'll march them in front when I conquer the southern resource areas. Once the Americas are consolidated, I'll make a deal with Beijing to split the rest between us.

Oh. And you WILL serve in the armed forces.


















Still think we need another hegemon, people?

(NewLiberty, I know better than to think you would subscribe to the above, but you did pose the question. )

What I see as different (the only "American Exceptionalism" that I subscribe to) is that past empires didn't hide that they were empires. Most embraced it as a righteous cause (it's not, but that's not the point), and even those that didn't, didn't pretend to be something else.

The United States of America, LLC. pretends that it isn't an empire. Even teaches it in schools to the point that the youth buy it, often for a lifetime.

Yet every action they take is aimed at expanding both territorially and legally into the lives of everyone. They even use the language of empire, such as "nation building" and "expanding our influence" and similar things, but haven't the courage to admit what they are. Or rather, they are more into lying than telling the truth. I'm not sure which it is, but I suspect the latter. In my time in american politics, I found that most politicians would prefer a stolen dime to an honestly gained dollar.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be in heaven!

I believe you.  It takes a nut job to understand a nut job.

So USA is it against the bible as it used terrorism to separate from Britain.

You know, right now dank makes more sense than you.


You should seek some professional help, stat.