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Topic: Optiona is allways good. 16nm ASIC, 100w/THS 0.1J/GH on wall. MAX: 31THS/miner!! - page 9. (Read 19495 times)

legendary
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Here is the other thing that is mystifying:

Gold, Bitcoin Soar After China Liquidates Most Reserves On Record To Defend Currency

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-07/gold-bitcoin-soar-after-china-liquidates-most-reserves-record-defend-currency


You would think that BITMAIN, Bitfury and Avalon would further reduce the price of their mining hardware to get dollars.

 Bitmain did so already. No clue if Avalon is going to follow, and no clue about BitFury since they've not announced pricing on anything new in a LONG time.
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What I look for in a miner is low cost electricity and low decibels... 
What is the expected decibels on this little baby?
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I'm willing to carefully and thoroughly review a unit.

And unlike the Spamdoolie toadies (ie RoadStress) I won't open an unnecessary new thread for it, just to crowd out competitor posts.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
It's a race and you are starting to lose it at the psychological level  Tongue

Bring it on!!! But the price might be a bit high for April
hero member
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Merit: 506
I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam Undecided
the time will prove it.


I hope to be wrong,
I would be happy for the competition bitmain

Yes, we really need more hardware manufacturers to bring down the fucking price from actual antminers....!

I would like to stop seeing more new miners; if we only have had the actual miners, diff would not rise and all of us would be happy doing easy money...  Undecided
The more new models and manufacturers are the less value the actual hardware have...  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 2663
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I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam Undecided
the time will prove it.


I hope to be wrong,
I would be happy for the competition bitmain

Yes, we really need more hardware manufacturers to bring down the fucking price from actual antminers....!
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
I'm not sure, but my gut tells me scam Undecided
the time will prove it.


I hope to be wrong,
I would be happy for the competition bitmain
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
I may not know a lot about electronics as you would say, but I also don't think that deep into this rendering as you but at the fact that it looks cool to me and realize it is probably not the final product.

I don't know why anyone is looking at the rendering, they're stock CAD models he's used just to show the formfactor of the device.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 1848
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
I'm not calling it a scam either. I'm criticizing the innards render. I guess it works if they want people to only know the location of fans and heatsinks inside the case, but there isn't really much of it that makes sense. Even the screw holes on the outside housing don't make a lot of sense yet. I'll let everyone else argue about the price and viability and trustworthiness of the poster and whatever.
legendary
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Why would he come here and post something tied to BITFURY that isn't true with no sign of a preorder?  They are gaining nothing right now by posting this, and clearly everyone in this thread has already labelled it a scam so who is going to get burned?

I may not know a lot about electronics as you would say, but I also don't think that deep into this rendering as you but at the fact that it looks cool to me and realize it is probably not the final product.  

Why would a 63 ASIC per board design not work when this miner is listed with dimensions of 350x140x155(adjustable according the design) and a S7 with 54 is 301mm(L)*123mm(W)*155mm(H)?

For the record I am not defending it nor claiming to be technically sound, but being open minded to OP's post and everyones take on it.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 1848
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
The render looks pretty sweet if you know nothing about electronics. Those boards don't make a bit of sense.

I doubt both the chip size and count. Likely the new Bitfury ASIC will be in the 10mm square package or smaller (based on per-chip power dissipation estimates). To get 10TH at 0.09J/GH (assumptions: 90% PSU, string design) gets you about 80GH per chip so 125 chips required.  With two boards (if the renders are anything like the final design) you'd need something divisible by two for node width. Two 21x3 strings gets you 0.57V at 126 ASICs and makes for one heck of a dense board if the estimated render dimensions are anything close to actual. Avalon 6 puts 36 ASICs to a board; S7 puts 54; this guy would have 63. Bitfury string designs in the past were fairly sparse, but they were also pulling about 3W per chip instead of 9 so I'd be surprised if the same kind of designs would be as stable under the new chip.
legendary
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Well from what has been posted it will be interesting to see announcements, and more information released in the near future.  For now there is too much room for speculation, and reason to be skeptical.

The numbers and renders do look pretty sweet though!
hero member
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Here is the other thing that is mystifying:

Gold, Bitcoin Soar After China Liquidates Most Reserves On Record To Defend Currency

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-07/gold-bitcoin-soar-after-china-liquidates-most-reserves-record-defend-currency


You would think that BITMAIN, Bitfury and Avalon would further reduce the price of their mining hardware to get dollars.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
Yesterday it was 1000w today 100w??

The post has not been edited. Its 100W/TH = 1000W.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
J if you're still in control of this bitcointalk account can you message me on skype please.
send me message.

I think you are failing to see the purpose of the dog's post.  If you are the same owner of the account as in the past, you will have his contact information on skype, and will be able to message him from the same account "you" used on skype in the past as well.

Confirmed its still him, same guy who did Lightning ASIC based devices.
member
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Yesterday it was 1000w today 100w??
hero member
Activity: 578
Merit: 508
Then there is the meta problem re "The Halving".

1) If you buy into the thesis that BTC will appreciate because of "The Halving", you guys sit on a pile of BTC from preorders while BTC appreciates.

2) Probably, the smart money in the March April time frame will start to dump their older equipment glutting the used miner market.

You have potentially a great setup, you presell equipment that you have mined with, deliver in a time frame where mining equipment is (rapidly?) depreciating and throughout your pile of BTC is appreciating.

hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
Ventilation fan as a cooler is funny.
Lame scam attempt...
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Take my money, my wife, my first-born, just let me have the damn 10THS miner!
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