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Topic: Optiona is allways good. 16nm ASIC, 100w/THS 0.1J/GH on wall. MAX: 31THS/miner!! - page 8. (Read 19575 times)

legendary
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The render looks pretty sweet if you know nothing about electronics. Those boards don't make a bit of sense.

I doubt both the chip size and count. Likely the new Bitfury ASIC will be in the 10mm square package or smaller (based on per-chip power dissipation estimates). To get 10TH at 0.09J/GH (assumptions: 90% PSU, string design) gets you about 80GH per chip so 125 chips required.  With two boards (if the renders are anything like the final design) you'd need something divisible by two for node width. Two 21x3 strings gets you 0.57V at 126 ASICs and makes for one heck of a dense board if the estimated render dimensions are anything close to actual. Avalon 6 puts 36 ASICs to a board; S7 puts 54; this guy would have 63. Bitfury string designs in the past were fairly sparse, but they were also pulling about 3W per chip instead of 9 so I'd be surprised if the same kind of designs would be as stable under the new chip.
the key is not how many asic on one board.the key is the chipset efficiency. the power is same.500w/board , max 600W.
S7, old version  s7, 162pcs asic, 54asic/board, new version, 135pcs asic, 45asic/pcs. 1165W on wall, 8.6W/asic,
A6, 80pcs asic, 40pcs asic/board, 1100W, 13.75W/asic.
the 16nm ASIC,100pcs aisc, 50asic/board, 1000w, 10W/asic.
our design must work well.
legendary
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I'm not calling it a scam either. I'm criticizing the innards render. I guess it works if they want people to only know the location of fans and heatsinks inside the case, but there isn't really much of it that makes sense. Even the screw holes on the outside housing don't make a lot of sense yet. I'll let everyone else argue about the price and viability and trustworthiness of the poster and whatever.
it's CAD models. used just to show the formfactor of the device.
legendary
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http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

two problems i see so far no real miner is posted on there site yet, just a computer generated picture. and in two months time bitmain may have a better one on the market at a cheaper price or lower there's enough were you can get three for 2k other wise prove me wrong, send off a few now for reviews because i some how got a feeling they will be selling used miners for 2k if  there not scamming now . while bitmain does send off new not used and does let us know if they are used at least all my S5 i bought, looked new , felt new etc that i bought as new. .

and this is a pre order not a per sell imo . to me a pre order means you are paying for something that doesn't exist yet and you are taking a big risk and pre sell means it does exist and is really to be shipped in days not months. Like bitmain does .

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

I agree fully rich

Side hack does give a step by step with real picture of the real miner as he makes it and does Per-sales not per-orders  . which we all like and does come thu for the home miner, which is no real threat at all to any of the big guys, it is just pure greed at this point .I don't believe bitfury at all , till i see it and do they really mean it  or are they blowing smoke out there ass for attention to help pay for the dev they did and have no real intention what so ever of selling anything to the public they just need to recover the money it took to make the chip if it even exists. .
the other supplier miner price may be dropped to competive with us. but new asic is not like one piece of cake. so, in next coming 6 months, only this aisc can do  100W/THS .


That's BS or prove me wrong !!! ..  simple put unless you have spy's  inside bitmian you have no idea what they are up to .

cya i gonna watch this thread but at this point seeing is believing . Smiley .
legendary
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http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

two problems i see so far no real miner is posted on there site yet, just a computer generated picture. and in two months time bitmain may have a better one on the market at a cheaper price or lower there's enough were you can get three for 2k other wise prove me wrong, send off a few now for reviews because i some how got a feeling they will be selling used miners for 2k if  there not scamming now . while bitmain does send off new not used and does let us know if they are used at least all my S5 i bought, looked new , felt new etc that i bought as new. .

and this is a pre order not a per sell imo . to me a pre order means you are paying for something that doesn't exist yet and you are taking a big risk and pre sell means it does exist and is really to be shipped in days not months. Like bitmain does .

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

I agree fully rich

Side hack does give a step by step with real picture of the real miner as he makes it and does Per-sales not per-orders  . which we all like and does come thu for the home miner, which is no real threat at all to any of the big guys, it is just pure greed at this point .I don't believe bitfury at all , till i see it and do they really mean it  or are they blowing smoke out there ass for attention to help pay for the dev they did and have no real intention what so ever of selling anything to the public they just need to recover the money it took to make the chip if it even exists. .
the other supplier miner price may be dropped to competive with us. but new asic is not like one piece of cake. so, in next coming 6 months, only this aisc can do  100W/THS .
legendary
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no pre-order at this moment!

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we will open pre-order very soon.
hero member
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no pre-order at this moment!

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legendary
Activity: 1274
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http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

two problems i see so far no real miner is posted on there site yet, just a computer generated picture. and in two months time bitmain may have a better one on the market at a cheaper price or lower there's enough were you can get three for 2k other wise prove me wrong, send off a few now for reviews because i some how got a feeling they will be selling used miners for 2k if  there not scamming now . while bitmain does send off new not used and does let us know if they are used at least all my S5 i bought, looked new , felt new etc that i bought as new. .

and this is a pre order not a per sell imo . to me a pre order means you are paying for something that doesn't exist yet and you are taking a big risk and pre sell means it does exist and is really to be shipped in days not months. Like bitmain does .

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

I agree fully rich

Side hack does give a step by step with real picture of the real miner as he makes it and does Per-sales not per-orders  . which we all like and does come thu for the home miner, which is no real threat at all to any of the big guys, it is just pure greed at this point .I don't believe bitfury at all , till i see it and do they really mean it  or are they blowing smoke out there ass for attention to help pay for the dev they did and have no real intention what so ever of selling anything to the public they just need to recover the money it took to make the chip if it even exists. .
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I'm willing to carefully and thoroughly review a unit.

And unlike the Spamdoolie toadies (ie RoadStress) I won't open an unnecessary new thread for it, just to crowd out competitor posts.

Any proof for your statement or it's business as usual a.k.a. speaking out of your lying ass?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/spondoolies-spam-898999

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-killing-an-hardware-manufacturers-poll-938782

Apology accepted.   Kiss
legendary
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I'm willing to carefully and thoroughly review a unit.

And unlike the Spamdoolie toadies (ie RoadStress) I won't open an unnecessary new thread for it, just to crowd out competitor posts.

Any proof for your statement or it's business as usual a.k.a. speaking out of your lying ass?
full member
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I believe this is not a scam, but I guess it will be awesome if it offers 10 TH at 2000 USD
I am waiting for a official partnership announcement of BitFury
hero member
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http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

the price has changed, yesterday when i looked it was $500,-  idk why, maybe some error
has anyone ordered one for $500,- yesterday? (not me)


I seen that too! It was an error I do believe. Most likely he website was still being setup for it.
 Because the atm was 500$ too

I need to see a review before I even drop those kind of dollars!
legendary
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http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/
I would not recommend placing any orders yet until more information is made available.
sr. member
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http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

the price has changed, yesterday when i looked it was $500,-  idk why, maybe some error
has anyone ordered one for $500,- yesterday? (not me)
hero member
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hero member
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These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich
legendary
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We are back with latest 16nm ASIC,supported by BITFURY.
1, 10THS/miner,
2,100W/THS on wall.
3, 4X 6pin PCI-E
4, Gross weight 5KG
5, size: 350x140x155(adjustable according the design)
the price is BTC0.42/THS, fob china.
miner ship at end of march or early April.

we provide hosting service at the same time. 0.09usd/kwh.







it is a nice miner.

I am willing to do a long write up on this site. with fair and honest photos and results.


My conditions are simple send the demo when it is ready.

 I won't even keep it I would return it or ship it to a customer.

I would just do a fair 7-14 day review.









Send him one he will send it back , and back  this up . by the way philipma1957  does things he may even buy it Smiley. other wise this reminds me of a script miner some one tried to pass off on the alt coin forum one time, some one said all most the exact same thing send him one hell send it back.
legendary
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I'm not calling it a scam either. I'm criticizing the innards render. I guess it works if they want people to only know the location of fans and heatsinks inside the case, but there isn't really much of it that makes sense. Even the screw holes on the outside housing don't make a lot of sense yet. I'll let everyone else argue about the price and viability and trustworthiness of the poster and whatever.

I thought the same thing it looked to cartoon like and the cost is to much for the ship date and it's a per order for two months out ,to many negatives and not one positive,  if it was out the door by the end of this month and really shipped .Then maybe we have another bitmain with price wars and reason ably priced miners once again .The Price is kind of  justified if it ships this month etc .
hero member
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Got 3 in the house and 4 more coming next week! Grin
Maybe in april i will upgrade from ~30th to ~100th, if the price is right Tongue

So not even one asic out, a single chip, more details....

 Shocked
 Grin
hero member
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Got 3 in the house and 4 more coming next week! Grin
Maybe in april i will upgrade from ~30th to ~100th, if the price is right Tongue

So not even one asic out, a single chip, more details....
hero member
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It's a race and you are starting to lose it at the psychological level  Tongue

Bring it on!!! But the price might be a bit high for April

Don't worry, i'll buy 3 s7 next week  Grin
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