Organized crime in bounties... - page 4.

Koadharber

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Quote from: swiftbits on November 08, 2018, 10:13:55 AM

This is my first time knowing those things! I think scammers would really do everything for a huge amount of money even it took a lot of effort
I encountered a bounty spreadsheet flooded by fake information for telegram campaign, probably a scammers doing.

Scammers finding ways to cheat in a Bounty Campaigns to earn huge amount of tokens some of them using another participants username to cheat,so much better that the project conduct KYC so that no cheaters cannot make any crime's in a Campaign.

edmundo

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I think this fraudulent practices associated with bounty hunting comes from all the way up. It is being perpetuated by even the bounty managers. When project gives them rewards for hunters, they often tend to keep a whole for themselves and then distribute very little to the hunters hence shortchanging them for tasks performed. I am not saying this act is done by all bounty managers, there are still some credible ones out there but most of them aren't credible. Recently, I participated in a bounty that got maximum participation but the BM distributed just 20% of the allocation and kept the balance of 80% all to himself. This rot goes way down and it seems nothing can be done about it.

Idrisu

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This is really very bad and it means bounties is bringing bad name to cryptocurrencies than icos itself. Since June last year I refuse to invest in icos and since November last year I have abandoned bounties because of the scaming activities in it.

kaito.

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mostly bounty manager only care about the number of participant that join bounty they manage, they didn't even bother to check is their participant doing their task properly or just spaming all they check was their report.
so to solve this problem
1. they should limit bounty participant.
2. start KYC at the start of bounty to discern real hunter and cheater that using multi account.
3. increase their man power to really check every post or comment that hunter made.
4. spam post or comment will made hunter removed all their stakes from bounty.

Sundaey

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I think you are right about the bounty managers, if a campaign spreadsheet is updated time to time you hardly see those cheaters existing in such campaigns. Have done more than two projects where I found that my bitcointalk username is already registered with someone else details.

AzureDragon

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I think KYC procedure can't resolve the problem at all. Often KYC procedure in bounties is to use just scan of primary document like passport. For example many bank and insurance staff have an access to a lot of that documents. So they easely can use fake personal data.

KryptoKai

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The worst bounty is the telegram bounties. It is clearly bots that swallow up the spreadsheet and it's obvious because they all register at the same time. They should be deleted but the bounty manager just leaves them be

Teamfearless

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This is really sad because project manager and bounty manager are losing trust in bounty hunter . Automatic and bot system are really destroying the games .. sometimes you can a telegram of 40k but when u post in the group then no one seems to reply you because the group is full of bots .. its time for bounty manager to do hard work to fish those bot out ..

Thanasis

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Bounty managers are allocating the stakes for translation campaign as well but we need to accept that he don't know actually many languages so he don't fidn if they just translated it or did by their own effort so it is better to have reporting campaign which give special rewards to the people who reporting any scamming activities from that bounty participants.

Ozero

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The problem of bot activity in bounty ICO campaigns does exist. However, it is quite possible to cope with it, using even the available methods on this forum. However, in essence, the ICO teams are not interested in fighting them. For them, it is important that the ICO signature campaigns write quality messages with their advertising for the ICO project. Poor messages, they can not be counted. In principle, I do not think this is a big problem. Now there is enough work for everyone.

royalfestus

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Is now the duty of every bounty hunter to look out for scammers or else all real participants will be deprived of there full rewards. Mangers also need to engage in frequent sorting out of scammers and in some cases managers encourage it with delayed update of spreadsheets and activities .

CryptoAlphaStar

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There is one way to stop this - by implementing KYC. This will weed out the bots, because for every payment there will be an ID. But bounty hunters don't like KYC, too. Because this is even the more dangerous organised crime - some fake ICOs that collect personal data and steal identities through whitelists.

AzureDragon

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Quote from: DominickA86 on February 12, 2019, 02:54:32 PM

I think the main problem is that there are a lot of cheaters that are using multi accounts at the same bounty to earn bigger rewards. I think KYC solves all this problems and you can also proof that it was your article because you have added it to the spreadsheet first.

KYC procedure is acceptable for trusted ICO / projects. Sending your personal data to unknown person / group is not the best idea.
Or bounty organizers should also disclose their persons to the participants, like KYBM (Know Your Bounty Manager) procedure

Nasonn

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The major problem of crime in bounties is those who run multi accounts, I've seen a situation where someone registered about 100 accounts in a single bounty. This is where kyc in bounty is advisable because it eliminates most of the cheats.

DominickA86

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I think the main problem is that there are a lot of cheaters that are using multi accounts at the same bounty to earn bigger rewards. I think KYC solves all this problems and you can also proof that it was your article because you have added it to the spreadsheet first.

enhu

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I use to write articles but if they can translate articles into hundred more to other language then those guys can earn bounties without doing anything. That is just a killer lol
Bounty Manager should just accept English if they are too lazy to check which article is being spin and presented to them some other language. This will be an added work load though so its best to just accept what can be understood by all. Only English.

Golftech

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Quote from: codegnome on February 12, 2019, 11:34:43 AM

Bounty hunters should also check the project and the bounty manager. A lot of users join the campaign even after its end, what means that they do not even check basic information at all. If bounty hunters will support scam projects, it will never stop. Before joining campaign check very well who is behind the project!

That's annoying, there's several threads regarding to bounty that we can see those post, irresponsible bounty hunters needs to be changed, before we engaged to any bounty projects, we need to read everything under the rules and follow each grounds, both Managers and Hunters needs to work alongside for much smooth and successful outcome.

slaman29

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Quote from: Christinebeauty on February 12, 2019, 12:21:48 PM

Every bounty manager is aware of the possible entry of bots in the campaign but they just ignore them and allow them to have their way through because they feel too lazy to check all these things.

I agree with this particular statement, that bots are very easy to detect, or even multi accounts held by the same string of people. But this is why I see a huge difference in quality of: the campaign; the manager; the participants.

But don't underestimate the ability of organized criminals to get smarter. I've seen even famous managers only discover scammers after being alerted. It is a tough job even if they're not lazy.

Christinebeauty

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Every bounty manager is aware of the possible entry of bots in the campaign but they just ignore them and allow them to have their way through because they feel too lazy to check all these things.

trader34

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Yes, bounties are a problem right now. Too many scams and people that are not getting paid. Now more than ever, we need to pay attention to where we decide to participate and to the project we choose.

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