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sr. member
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February 03, 2019, 04:45:27 PM
Good observation, we need a good and experienced bounty manager to catch these scammers, they are now so good and so organized that if the bounty manager does not have a team they will not get caught, these scammers there are huge money to collect in the bounty.
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February 03, 2019, 04:32:44 PM
From the moment some campaign allows the interaction of newbies, the catastrophic results you just mentioned just demonstrate what fact this forum has become! The newbie should be concerned with interacting and creating experience in the early days of the forum! If the newbie is going after bounties campaign, it is possible to raise several discussions and doubts about its relation with the forum.

I think that such behavior could be easily eliminated. It's enough that bounty managers will not accept Newbies for any campaign. Unfortunately, this is probably impossible, because managers want spam so that the advertisement can be seen in as many places as possible.
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February 03, 2019, 04:24:59 PM
Scammers have abuse the bounty platform, reducing the amount of token earn by individual, I feel bounty is heading to extinction except there is a control mechanism to checkmate scammers and  individual that use bot and people with several acount, Airdrop  platform is over as token receive this days is very low in value.
sr. member
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February 03, 2019, 10:18:06 AM
From the moment some campaign allows the interaction of newbies, the catastrophic results you just mentioned just demonstrate what fact this forum has become! The newbie should be concerned with interacting and creating experience in the early days of the forum! If the newbie is going after bounties campaign, it is possible to raise several discussions and doubts about its relation with the forum.
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February 03, 2019, 10:09:46 AM
Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Yes. This is very helpful. Very much scamming bounties occur. No exception on the bounty project and on the airdrop project. They do it very organized. There are a number of bounty projects that I have participated in, they only posted profiles of other people's accounts and only changed the address of the wallet.
I think, the admin really needs to check the authenticity of the accounts of the participants who joined.
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November 23, 2018, 08:55:29 AM
There are different methods used by experienced bounty managers nowadays where they are using minor KYC by posting on the thread or using telegram bot before you get the form o be filled out when joining specific campaign. Your suggestions are common but would be helpful for inexperience bounty managers. Bounty hunter scammers are those who usually do identity theft to multiply their reward so we also have to be aware checking the spreadsheet.
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November 23, 2018, 08:48:31 AM
Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Ok so what are you saying? You expect the regular bounty manager to be able to fight against organized crime? If they have enough fake profiles I do not see how it would be possible how to track that. For the duplicate texts hmm maybe with proper text analytics but that has to be cost effective as soon as it is done.
jr. member
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November 23, 2018, 08:45:28 AM
Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.

In addition, these groups are paying copywriters a few hundred dollars to write 3-4 articles and then google translating them in many languages and posting under many fake accounts. Often using newbie BCT accounts to protect the higher ranking accounts they created to put in signatures campaigns.

This kind of scam has started to flourish because the bounty managers who manage the projects are too lazy or inexperienced to watch out for these scammers.

Bounty hunters get a bad reputation because of these scammers. Also projects can’t  get quality work because good bounty hunters don’t want to waste their time, since their hard work will be diluted by scammers.

So to protect yourself when doing a bounty:
1. Watch all activities and report scamming to bounty managers ASAP
2. Google your own articles to see if someone has posted it under their account.
3. Don’t waste your time with airdrops

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...


I hope this was helpful...

Some managers are to blame for acts like this. There are some managers that have devised means to prevent acts like this. For instance, some of them have decided to introduced the use of proof of stakes, which is also useful in curbing any scam attempt.
Then for mangers who manage lots of bounty programmes, if they feel they cannot effectively management the works before them with the available manpower, they should get more helping hands, in order to allow for proper monitoring.
jr. member
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November 10, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
#99
this is extremely bad as people who want to earn honestly tokens simply cannot compete with bots and get a penny for the bounty campaign. it should not be

Basically, there are some people who randomly joins a telegram group and try to devastate its members through a link tha they send. Primarily a Phishing site where the accounts and personal info's of the members are stolen and even their money.
jr. member
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November 10, 2018, 09:07:56 PM
#98
If this matter has a proof, then this is a serious matter that can be forward to the team of the ico campaign. This is a big unbalance and a big unfair to the bounty hunters that is honest with their work. Can anyone have a better idea that may be able to catch the users that are doing these?
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November 10, 2018, 05:45:49 PM
#97
Now there are a lot of worthy managers who do the full job of finding fraudsters. Of course, a small ICO is faced with such a problem. Yes in the cryptocurrency world there are a lot of scammers  Sad
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November 10, 2018, 05:44:44 PM
#96
it's sad that bounty hunter has to fight the crooks now. and often managers are removed from the company for a small mistake and the scammers remain. that's not fair. I value my work and don't want others to steal from me
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 253
November 10, 2018, 05:40:25 PM
#95
It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).
I agree with you. We must really filter the bounties that we have to join in order not to waste our time and effort in helping the project to be successful by doing our tasks. About the Bounty Manager, that's a good factor but we should also do the work on researching about the bounty to join. If a Bounty fails, it is not the Bounty Manager's fault I think. Strict rules are okay for me if it will scammers to come in.
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November 10, 2018, 05:31:13 PM
#94
It's all depends we choosing a project.. If you want a good quality bounty, just follow the most trusted bounty manager, find project who have a strict rules for participant (strict rules have possibility to avoid who cheat on bounty).


It is the best strategy to lessen the chances of falling into a trap but cannot be avoided in some cases because of scammers had also strategies on how to convince managers to work for them, as I 've said it cannot be avoided but at least it was minimal.
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Activity: 448
Merit: 20
November 10, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
#93
In one campaign I told the admin (from the team) in the Telegram room
There are huge robot entries
He told me that our campaign manager was a professional and would handle it
"Then let's get a free job and they will not get stakes

So far nothing has been deleted
That was about two weeks ago
All in all, it is up to the awareness of the campaign manager and the hunters together
Because in the end their joint work.
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November 10, 2018, 04:55:25 PM
#92
I think for beginners this article will be a good grant how it is possible to struggle with swindlers. I when notice something similar always I contact the manager. But happens so he doesn't answer or ignores. In such cases I don't see sense to participate further in the project.
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November 10, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
#91
It's so bad that some people love to earn from unreasonable or lazy tasks and try to live off other people genuine works. This is why many bounties nowadays require KYC before you can receive your rewards.
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November 10, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
#90
This is indeed one of the worst factors affecting the lives of bounty hunters. But I can see that such scams are not so much, as in most cases, people just have a few accounts. I think almost every bounty hunter has a second account.
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November 10, 2018, 11:24:33 AM
#89
Countless methods of abuses to the bounty that we can mention here from those bounty abusers, some of them manage to take some peoples username here to join bounty or airdrop then they use their own wallets to profit without the consent of the original owner, some of them abuse the registration system, doubling their entries with different usernames, telegrams, and URL to look legit but the owner is just one man, managers need to restrict the registrations like posting some authentications to bitcointalk and double checking.
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Merit: 100
November 10, 2018, 11:09:08 AM
#88
Very useful article, I think it would be interesting to create a separate forum where participants could only give to us some information about companies that turned out to be scammers.
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