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sr. member
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November 10, 2018, 10:07:48 AM
#87
That's why I don't join on those campaign with a low rank campaign manager or even a copper member with a low rank. I usually join on campaign with at least senior rank btt account. And Yes, sometimes the bounty manager or the campaign manager is also a victim for such a long period of time. This crypto community is composed of different kind of mind ( people ) but always keep on your mind that more of us want money and money and money than a project.

That's why we need to know all of the information about the project before joining, right?
We do not only need to know about the project's potency, the team, the manager is also important here so we will not get trapped then.
member
Activity: 364
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Fast, Smart, Trustworthy
November 10, 2018, 06:04:12 AM
#86
You sound like a scam account trying to stop the word from getting out!!

Date Registered: March 31, 2018. You joined Bitcointalk forum earlier than me. But you still think what I said as from a scammer try to get the rresponsible people out of my way? LoL. "bitcointalk.org can stop scam ICO" if you have ever read what high rank members and oldest members said in that thread, you will understand what I said. Unfortunately, that thread was deleted. But you will still receive a result while search by google. I wish you will become a legendary of all bounty hunters of Bitcointalk forum after changing this scam world.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 500
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November 10, 2018, 05:49:53 AM
#85
Unfortunately, this situation has been observed for more than one month. Bounty managers should deal with such situations, as they take responsibility for the bounty campaign.
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 251
November 10, 2018, 04:04:35 AM
#84
I have a friend who says that there is this certain project or company that supposedly should have already gave the tokens or coins to them but 5 months has passed and the tokens has not been given yet. So he does not really know whether he should pursue it or just forget about it because the chat room on telegram has no replies and also bans who gives FUD at that chatroom. It even asked KYC for the bounty participants. Tragic really.
full member
Activity: 700
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Helios Protocol https://discord.gg/cpzAEMB
November 10, 2018, 02:05:33 AM
#83
Really? wake up your dreaming!! not worth the effort the rewards are far too low for any self-respecting Boss to waste his time on a few dollars for 2 months work.
Can you quote up who are you waking for that post? Such a cut comment of yours, and of course, all of the bounty hunters are very upset and disappointed on a few dollars only. But it does not mean we need to stop doing bounty hunting, as I can see on yourself ( your account ) that you are continue to wear avatar and signature from a crypto project. That's why the author do this thread to encourage all of us to report those shady works of others, such a dirty people who want to take advantage of others. We need to do an alternative solution on this issue.

I was referring to the OP not yours by the way. I think it is ridiculous to speculate that organised crime is going to be bothered to try and scam a few dollars from bounty campaigns that take 2 - 3 months of collection. The rest of us are picking up tiny amounts from our efforts but my hope is that they will flourish in the next Buill phase.
full member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 129
November 10, 2018, 01:54:45 AM
#82
They shouldn't be that difficult to detect, if they're using bots for sign-ups etc.
If the campaigns are actually somewhat decent, they can easily figure out the patterns of these bots and just deny them any payouts automatically.

That said, some campaigns just do not care. They're just in it for a quick money grab and they'll just pay out tokens to these bot farms.
Probably because it's cheaper for them than actually trying to fix it.
Some bounty manager are very lazy in checking out cheaters in bounty programme and that is the reason why it is very easy for this cheaters to go away with this. most importantly ones they see that a bounty manager doesnt do alot of work in analysing work before allocating token then he will be their target they will be using bot to sign up in every campaign he/she is managing. I have experienced this in the past. despite that i reported that someone my work, the BM still go ahead to allocate token for such stolen work.
hero member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 504
November 10, 2018, 01:53:54 AM
#81
I am forever reporting fake scammers and thieves who steal my content and my username and one even made a telegram using my profile photo as well and impersonating me. This is so ridiculous. If they go through all this effort to scam, why not make a frigging video or article themselves and post, are they so stupid or lazy? I sometimes am ashamed to say I am Asian also as most scammers are coming out of Asia as well. Mostly the bounty gangs are Vietnamese, I notice form their emails.
full member
Activity: 518
Merit: 111
Dota2
November 10, 2018, 01:49:27 AM
#80
Really? wake up your dreaming!! not worth the effort the rewards are far too low for any self-respecting Boss to waste his time on a few dollars for 2 months work.
Can you quote up who are you waking for that post? Such a cut comment of yours, and of course, all of the bounty hunters are very upset and disappointed on a few dollars only. But it does not mean we need to stop doing bounty hunting, as I can see on yourself ( your account ) that you are continue to wear avatar and signature from a crypto project. That's why the author do this thread to encourage all of us to report those shady works of others, such a dirty people who want to take advantage of others. We need to do an alternative solution on this issue.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 110
Helios Protocol https://discord.gg/cpzAEMB
November 10, 2018, 01:40:19 AM
#79
Really? wake up your dreaming!! not worth the effort the rewards are far too low for any self-respecting Boss to waste his time on a few dollars for 2 months work.
full member
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Merit: 111
Dota2
November 10, 2018, 01:39:06 AM
#78
It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.
I don't think so because not all bounty managers are lazy to check every entry. I can also understand if they cannot carry out their duties at any time because you can imagine it yourself if there are many participants participating in the project even reaching up to 2000 people who participate and and this is only just at social media campaigns, not yet another campaign that still has to be calculated. So I think we must not judge, like saying that the bounty manager is all lazy, because that is not true.

The best step is if you find suspicious activity from someone, immediately report it to the bounty manager. Don't be afraid that you will be ignored. It's better if you try to report it instead of allowing cheating people to get the token reward. I believe that there are still many bounty managers who are professional and responsive to things like this.
That's why I don't join on those campaign with a low rank campaign manager or even a copper member with a low rank. I usually join on campaign with at least senior rank btt account. And Yes, sometimes the bounty manager or the campaign manager is also a victim for such a long period of time. This crypto community is composed of different kind of mind ( people ) but always keep on your mind that more of us want money and money and money than a project.
jr. member
Activity: 131
Merit: 1
November 10, 2018, 01:31:22 AM
#77
It is easy to detect the fake entries but the campaign managers are lazy, or they don't want to do it. Because bounty managers are not moderated, only tag from DT members is not enough, so when theymos still doesn't want to control this, it still happens.
I don't think so because not all bounty managers are lazy to check every entry. I can also understand if they cannot carry out their duties at any time because you can imagine it yourself if there are many participants participating in the project even reaching up to 2000 people who participate and and this is only just at social media campaigns, not yet another campaign that still has to be calculated. So I think we must not judge, like saying that the bounty manager is all lazy, because that is not true.

The best step is if you find suspicious activity from someone, immediately report it to the bounty manager. Don't be afraid that you will be ignored. It's better if you try to report it instead of allowing cheating people to get the token reward. I believe that there are still many bounty managers who are professional and responsive to things like this.
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 0
November 10, 2018, 01:19:04 AM
#76
It really gives me concern when I see many scammers in every spreadsheet I checked and funny involve the manger will award stake to them when it's clear that they are scam, which show that most of the manager are lazy or should we say they also know about it and maybe the culprit too, cos I have seen a group where a guy complain about duplicate account and the manager didn't do anything to it, it happen mostly in fb, two and Reddit even in signature , I think the scam btt account need to be reported to moderator here to get ban.
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November 10, 2018, 01:04:07 AM
#75
There are some things that are almost above our power, truth is this issue is leaving bounty hunters with a bad name, but the best thing I think is for legit hunters to keep doing their legit hunting jobs. Kyc is also a very good way to curb this scammers out.
many projects turned out to be fraudsters, with them offering prizes with a large allocation for bounty hunters, and it turned out that in the end the project didn't pay for it. indeed in choosing a project we cannot determine which projects are truly responsible, because this year is very difficult
hero member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 521
7enius - Your Cryptocurrency Marketing Consultant
November 10, 2018, 12:38:45 AM
#74
Yes, I think this situation is becoming more frequent. That's why many bounty campaigns must require participants to do KYC before receiving rewards.
In my opinion, actually the KYC system applied to bounty campaigns also has a big impact to reduce the risk of people who want to cheat like that.
jr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 1
November 10, 2018, 12:32:21 AM
#73
actually sad that something like this bountie participants noticed and the manager, however, do nothing. they are actually well paid to prevent such scam methods. perhaps the bountie operators should look the manager more on the finger. Wink
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 15
November 10, 2018, 12:12:48 AM
#72
The bounty sector is in shambles. Thousands of bounties ongoing right now and most of them are being managed by junior level members. There are members who manage dozens of bounties simultaneously and I don't think that these people have enough time available to screen out the scammers.
BCT member rank has nothing to do with it. Just because someone started a BCT account recently doesn’t mean they don’t understand cryptos or marketing. I think no project should trust anyone controling their ANA, because the members who controls it can blackmail them by denying access. Put more thought into things...
member
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November 10, 2018, 12:11:38 AM
#71
Scamming bounties has become a new source of income for organized groups of scammers. Groups with developers on their payroll are using software to create thousands of bots and dumping them in airdrop bounty to collect 100’s of thousands of dollars in bounty tokens. Airdrops may not seem like much, but when you have 20K fake accounts receiving 10-20 tokens, it’s a huge payoff.
It would be good if you have evidence and share the link. We can't deny the fact that it indeed exist so i hope that this will be put to a stop.

To the admins
1. Check everyone who enters the bounty.
2. Updates stakes frequently so scammers know you are watching.
2. Don’t be lazy, put in the work...
The bounty administrator were being paid to do their job but sad to say that some of them were involve in this kind of scam because of greed.
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 15
November 10, 2018, 12:08:45 AM
#70
That's why KYC implemented to see hoe cheaters can pass this requirement. I think their only targeting some projects without KYC, so I suggest bounty managers should not announced KYC at first then surprise them at the end when campaign is over to conduct KYC.
Yes, I agree!! Then we some teams start KYC after finding fraud, they use their fake accounts to complain and make it look like the real community doesn’t like KYC.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1217
November 10, 2018, 12:01:23 AM
#69
The bounty sector is in shambles. Thousands of bounties ongoing right now and most of them are being managed by junior level members. There are members who manage dozens of bounties simultaneously and I don't think that these people have enough time available to screen out the scammers.
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 301
November 09, 2018, 11:59:00 PM
#68
I agree with your observation especially on telegram bots. I also see similar patterns of bot accounts. The latest I observed are English and Russian nicknames with some made up username (e.g. sdfuinsdi). They just kept coming everyday. This is probably the reason why some campaign managers do not check them well because it is really time consuming.
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