The reason for adding Faucet to online casinos was not like that. Faucet was invented for the purpose of allowing users to check out games without a deposit.
There are several sites I have visited that allow withdrawals from Faucet. But on the other hand, there are many sites that allow, but according to their rules.
E.g., DuckDice. They allow users to withdraw from Faucet, and sometimes deny it. Users who make regular deposits, high rank level, they allow them to withdraw up to 5 bitcoins. On the other hand, those are new to the site. Just playing with Faucet, their withdrawal denies. Casino Royal Also has same system. Imagine for a second, you were added Faucet so that customers could test your site, but they withdrew a huge amount. What will you do then?
I have seen many sites like this, who initially came up with the site with Faucet, but later they were forced to shut down Faucet. Such as Bitsler, Jacksclub,
I think casinos have the right to allow, or reject, withdraw from Faucet.
Topic: ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| - page 14. (Read 13246 times)
March 28, 2021, 08:32:10 AM
March 27, 2021, 05:06:17 PM
There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.
What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.
IMO, just pay him or contact with him by privately to solve this problem, it has been few weeks i've seen this problem.
This guy who won $7k just by using their faucet was really lucky.
I believe the site couldn't accept how this person got that amount of money from them by using freebies.
Again, this is the important reason why there is ToS in every company or site, as it will be the reference when something goes awry.
If they can't give his full winnings, they need to settle it amicably as this person will not stop bothering them about this case.
They need to move on with this mistake. And learn from it.
March 26, 2021, 11:27:28 PM
There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.
What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.
IMO, just pay him or contact with him by privately to solve this problem, it has been few weeks i've seen this problem.
March 26, 2021, 09:39:12 PM
There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.
What kind of faucet abuse he did? Did he use multiple accounts? It seems that you are inconsistence with your own reason to deny his $7,000 withdrawal. At the beginning, you accused him of using bot/strategy but you accuse him by your own assumption only. Now at the end, you accuse him of faucet abuse but you did not mention how he abuse the faucet.
March 26, 2021, 04:57:12 PM
Oh! Let's take a break for a sec and take a look at the Cambridge Dictionary! According to the Book, Fraud means the crime of getting money by deceiving people. And Scam is an illegal way of making money, usually by tricking people.
Did we made even a single penny by deceiving this player? Sure we didn't.
It's good question: who is the victim here?
Once again. There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.
If I had deposited at least one penny, would I have pulled it out?Did we made even a single penny by deceiving this player? Sure we didn't.
It's good question: who is the victim here?
Once again. There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.
To deceive is to lie and make you think it is true.
And you tricked me into hiding your $ 7,000 balance in your wallet, right?
Good answer: I am.
once again.
It does not correspond to the unauthorized use of the faucet you say.
March 26, 2021, 03:43:35 PM
There was a faucet abuse. Casino management decided to reject this payment in conformity with our TOS. This is the final decision, and it is not a subject to change.
March 23, 2021, 11:36:48 PM
I will never trust a casino with my money if they deny payments based on arbitrarily made-up rules.
I don't even recommend it because I won't even reply if it becomes inconvenient.I think I'm thinking of running away without replying anyway.
This is speculation.
They denied it, but the one named Paradise wouldn't be trusted.
March 23, 2021, 11:19:56 AM
I just only see paradice only trying to find excuse about how to handle this "faucet abuse".
If the player just played by a faucet and won, I don't think it's a faucet abuse. The Paradice should really explain better what kind of abuse it was exactly.
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
Exactly, if they don't want to avoid people who want to bet with the faucet rewards or winning with them and keep winning is prohibited then they should not allowed such person to bet or should the limits are mentioned in their site but none of them available still they call it as abuse which is nit acceptable though.
Not only that, but they explicitly state in their ANN post that it is possible to win money with bonus rewards.
So, all that cherry tree stuff is bullshit when someone wins big? Shouldn't that have been in your Terms of Service from the start?
Btw, I saw this in your ANN post:
Btw, I saw this in your ANN post:
I will never trust a casino with my money if they deny payments based on arbitrarily made-up rules.
March 23, 2021, 10:50:13 AM
I just only see paradice only trying to find excuse about how to handle this "faucet abuse".
If the player just played by a faucet and won, I don't think it's a faucet abuse. The Paradice should really explain better what kind of abuse it was exactly.
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
Exactly, if they don't want to avoid people who want to bet with the faucet rewards or winning with them and keep winning is prohibited then they should not allowed such person to bet or should the limits are mentioned in their site but none of them available still they call it as abuse which is nit acceptable though.
March 23, 2021, 10:10:32 AM
I just only see paradice only trying to find excuse about how to handle this "faucet abuse".
If the player just played by a faucet and won, I don't think it's a faucet abuse. The Paradice should really explain better what kind of abuse it was exactly.
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
March 23, 2021, 08:11:56 AM
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
March 21, 2021, 11:03:01 AM
If the player just played by a faucet and won, I don't think it's a faucet abuse. The Paradice should really explain better what kind of abuse it was exactly.
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
Quote
Faucet abuse is mentioned, but the definition of abuse is unclear.
In our understanding, Faucet Abuse is defined by a systematic use of bonuses to get a large advantage over the gambling house. This person have admitted in previous posts in our main thread that he uses other website faucets, hes friends do too, and judging from the faucet and bet logs he had a system. He used the full amount of faucets, pumped the VIP rank by making tens of millions of low risk bets, tried to split hes withdrawal in several smaller withdrawals to bypass our abuse detection system.
I don't think it's organizational because this is my first time.
We are not sharing information or sharing accounts with multiple people.
Perhaps even a small deposit is suspected of fraud and cannot be withdrawn?
Also, there is no guarantee of terms of use, so there is no guarantee that you can withdraw money, right? lol
March 21, 2021, 10:04:41 AM
I just only see paradice only trying to find excuse about how to handle this "faucet abuse".
If the player just played by a faucet and won, I don't think it's a faucet abuse. The Paradice should really explain better what kind of abuse it was exactly.
I checked their Terms of Use and FAQ, there is no mention anywhere that faucet winnings cannot be withdrawn. Moreover, they have already stated that they allow smaller amounts won from the faucet to be withdrawn, so this is clearly a mistake on their part.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if someone deposited a small amount and got incredibly lucky to win such a substantial amount? Would they still deny the withdrawal? How would that be different from the current situation?
March 20, 2021, 08:36:51 PM
Open a flag straight away. I will support it, lets weed out these kind of cheap scammers from our system.
No use. But he made a scam accusation thread about paradice https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solvedparadicein-fraud-accusation-5325305 you can write what you want on thereI just only see paradice only trying to find excuse about how to handle this "faucet abuse".
March 20, 2021, 07:31:14 PM
While we process small amounts of withdrawals from bonus wins, the $7000 is out of the question. That is our position.
So, all that cherry tree stuff is bullshit when someone wins big? Shouldn't that have been in your Terms of Service from the start?
Btw, I saw this in your ANN post:
Isn't it a little bit ironic?
We still haven't checked if this is hes only account, as we have a lot on our hands lately.
I kind of doubt this. Wouldn't that be your first argument to refuse to pay a user if you had that against him?
I got a bonus and won, but I don't get any prize money! lol
Open a flag straight away. I will support it, lets weed out these kind of cheap scammers from our system.
March 20, 2021, 06:50:13 PM
While we process small amounts of withdrawals from bonus wins, the $7000 is out of the question. That is our position.
So, all that cherry tree stuff is bullshit when someone wins big? Shouldn't that have been in your Terms of Service from the start?
Btw, I saw this in your ANN post:
https://i.imgur.com/dJJdCpy.png
Isn't it a little bit ironic?
We still haven't checked if this is hes only account, as we have a lot on our hands lately.
I kind of doubt this. Wouldn't that be your first argument to refuse to pay a user if you had that against him?
I got a bonus and won, but I don't get any prize money! lol
March 20, 2021, 06:44:09 PM
While we process small amounts of withdrawals from bonus wins, the $7000 is out of the question. That is our position.
So, all that cherry tree stuff is bullshit when someone wins big? Shouldn't that have been in your Terms of Service from the start?
Btw, I saw this in your ANN post:
Isn't it a little bit ironic?
We still haven't checked if this is hes only account, as we have a lot on our hands lately.
I kind of doubt this. Wouldn't that be your first argument to refuse to pay a user if you had that against him?
March 20, 2021, 06:34:13 PM
pleace public your method of betting, i am gonna abuse the F out of this den of thieves, parascam
It's okay to publish it, but just taunting it here doesn't help.I have filed a new fraud accusation, and I hope it can be resolved there.
The curse here does not help solve it. If you are also victimized, we recommend that you file a fraudulent accusation.
sorry.
March 20, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
Of course, I'm not cheating.
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?
Hello!
As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.
Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.
We assume that you use casino bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.
We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.
We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.
With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.
I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.
I think "faucet abuse" means having multiple accounts, getting illegally, or exceeding the faucet limit.
Where does it apply
I'm not using a faucet with multiple accounts
There is a daily limit on the faucets on your site, right?
Of course, you can't use more than the limit.
I haven't used Faucet to the point of "abuse I think" in the past.
And is it an abuse of the faucet just to withdraw the $ 7,000 earned from the faucet?
Is it okay to withdraw $ 200? The definition around it is also vague and unclear.
If you can't make a profit using the bonus system, isn't it the same for others?
If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.
I don't think it's a well-received site, at least as far as I know.
Does it say it has tools and BOT?
If so, why can you decide?
Did they mention about the faucets and bonus should be used only for a demo which is not real money? I don't get their point either, as I suggested you should create a scam accusation and wait for the DT members opinion about paradice action and their definition of abuse in this case.
I was hoping that it could be solved here.
Should I create a fraud accusation after all?
Even if I talk here, it won't be solved immediately, so should I get other people's opinions?
March 20, 2021, 10:23:04 AM
Did they mention about the faucets and bonus should be used only for a demo which is not real money? I don't get their point either, as I suggested you should create a scam accusation and wait for the DT members opinion about paradice action and their definition of abuse in this case.
I was hoping that it could be solved here.
Should I create a fraud accusation after all?
Even if I talk here, it won't be solved immediately, so should I get other people's opinions?
Jump to: