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newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Of course, I'm not cheating.
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?

Hello!

As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.

Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.
We assume that you use casino  bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.

We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.

We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.

With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.

I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.
So what is your definition of faucet abuse?
I think "faucet abuse" means having multiple accounts, getting illegally, or exceeding the faucet limit.
Where does it apply
I'm not using a faucet with multiple accounts
There is a daily limit on the faucets on your site, right?
Of course, you can't use more than the limit.
I haven't used Faucet to the point of "abuse I think" in the past.
And is it an abuse of the faucet just to withdraw the $ 7,000 earned from the faucet?

Is it okay to withdraw $ 200? The definition around it is also vague and unclear.
If you can't make a profit using the bonus system, isn't it the same for others?

If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.

I don't think it's a well-received site, at least as far as I know.
Does it say it has tools and BOT?
If so, why can you decide?

Did they mention about the faucets and bonus should be used only for a demo which is not real money? I don't get their point either, as I suggested you should create a scam accusation and wait for the DT members opinion about paradice action and their definition of abuse in this case.
I'm sorry to be late!
I was hoping that it could be solved here.
Should I create a fraud accusation after all?
Even if I talk here, it won't be solved immediately, so should I get other people's opinions?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
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If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.

Well, we disagree. Clearly, you were systematically using bonus system to gain large benefit and not using it for test-play as it was intended to be used.

While we process small amounts of withdrawals from bonus wins, the $7000 is out of the question. That is our position.

It seems like you don't want $100 either.


FYI  this person used bonus about 100 times doing it every day systematically, then he went into LightSpeed mode placing total of 1810488 bets to pump his VIP rank towards the reward which he used to pump that amount in LightSpeed accessible for our higher VIP ranks.

We still haven't checked if this is hes only account, as we have a lot on our hands lately.
However, there were no specific rules for the bonus system.
I didn't write anything that hinted at test play.
Also, it is written in the Q & A "How to play", right?
"To start playing, make a deposit or add a free bonus to fill your balance."

Paradice.in is a website where people decide to withdraw money.

I don't know your answer, so you don't need $ 100.
And you intended to add $ 100 to your balance, right? He said he didn't need $ 100 if he didn't know if he could withdraw.
Do you have the same problem again?

I think it's 100 times in total. There is an upper limit, so it is not 100 times a day.

Isn't it normal?
As your VIP rank goes up, you can use faster betting speeds, so you just switched, right?

And even if it's my only account, you're not going to look for anything else wrong and withdraw, right?
Suspect BOT first, and if it's different, say abuse of the faucet..
You're looking for a reason why you can't withdraw something, right?
Do you think you can forgive with just such excuses?

And you aren't telling me the definition of faucet abuse.
It is cowardly not to answer that it is inconvenient.
Some people are more angry.
full member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 146
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If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.

Well, we disagree. Clearly, you were systematically using bonus system to gain large benefit and not using it for test-play as it was intended to be used.

While we process small amounts of withdrawals from bonus wins, the $7000 is out of the question. That is our position.

It seems like you don't want $100 either.


FYI  this person used bonus about 100 times doing it every day systematically, then he went into LightSpeed mode placing total of 1810488 bets to pump his VIP rank towards the reward which he used to pump that amount in LightSpeed accessible for our higher VIP ranks.

We still haven't checked if this is hes only account, as we have a lot on our hands lately.
So you don't allow members to keep betting as long as they are winning, I don't know what kind of abuse you are talking about. If you never wanted the players to cashout their rewards then why you are allowing with them to bet?

You are putting your reputation as stake now.
full member
Activity: 865
Merit: 104
https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
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If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.

Well, we disagree. Clearly, you were systematically using bonus system to gain large benefit and not using it for test-play as it was intended to be used.

While we process small amounts of withdrawals from bonus wins, the $7000 is out of the question. That is our position.

It seems like you don't want $100 either.


FYI  this person used bonus about 100 times doing it every day systematically, then he went into LightSpeed mode placing total of 1810488 bets to pump his VIP rank towards the reward which he used to pump that amount in LightSpeed accessible for our higher VIP ranks.

We still haven't checked if this is hes only account, as we have a lot on our hands lately.
jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 5
As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.

Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.

Would you say the same thing "faucet abuse" if someone win thousands of dollars with 1 time faucet claim only? Would you judge the user as faucet abuser even though he win it with 1 faucet claim? Faucet abuse should not be something that is being considered by the win amount from the faucet but it should be related to what users do with the faucet. e.g. claiming it more than what is allowed, having multiple accounts, etc.

We assume that you use casino  bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.

Come on, do you have a proof that he is using faucet as source of income by farming it at many places? As a casino owner, you should provide valid evidences once you accuse your players as abuser and you cant judge your players do it at various places if you have no proofs at all.

We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.

We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.

With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.

I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.

You keep saying "abuse" but you have no proofs and you judge him to have a system to get large money from bonuses? Lets use our logic, if someone own such kind of system, he/she wont do it with faucet only as he/she may earn more with deposit at least small amount of money.
Coincidently after this case you try to boost your reputation by asking your players to leave a feedback here in this thread and offers them few thousands satoshi as the rewards. I believe people understands about what is the main purpose behind this sudden offer after the case of above user who won a lot of money from faucet.



Exactly. Not only that paradice also impose max cash out rule (from faucet) after user asked for cash out. Instead of paying him 7000$ paradice shamelessly offer him 100$ for his strategy. I have given negative trust to paradise and I assume more negative trusts will fall soon.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.

Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.

Would you say the same thing "faucet abuse" if someone win thousands of dollars with 1 time faucet claim only? Would you judge the user as faucet abuser even though he win it with 1 faucet claim? Faucet abuse should not be something that is being considered by the win amount from the faucet but it should be related to what users do with the faucet. e.g. claiming it more than what is allowed, having multiple accounts, etc.

We assume that you use casino  bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.

Come on, do you have a proof that he is using faucet as source of income by farming it at many places? As a casino owner, you should provide valid evidences once you accuse your players as abuser and you cant judge your players do it at various places if you have no proofs at all.

We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.

We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.

With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.

I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.

You keep saying "abuse" but you have no proofs and you judge him to have a system to get large money from bonuses? Lets use our logic, if someone own such kind of system, he/she wont do it with faucet only as he/she may earn more with deposit at least small amount of money.
Coincidently after this case you try to boost your reputation by asking your players to leave a feedback here in this thread and offers them few thousands satoshi as the rewards. I believe people understands about what is the main purpose behind this sudden offer after the case of above user who won a lot of money from faucet.

legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1148
~snip
Well i found something interesting with your T&S,

I read your T&S and it says like this

Quote
Faucet is a kind of regular bonus that you can receive multiple times each day. The amount of bonuses you can receive from Faucet depends on your VIP rank. The basic amount of Faucet bonuses is 10 per 24 hours.

To get faucet follow the bonus page, select coin and click “get the bonus”. Your balance in this coin type must be zero.

Only one account and IP subnet can be used for faucet. If you can’t receive the bonus, it means you have other Paradice accounts on your IP or subnet.

Any attempts of faucet abuse will be subject to an evaluation by the support team.


Your T&S hasn't said about user can't withdraw certain amount from your faucet. It only saying any attempts of faucet abuse, but it didn't said we can't withdraw any winning amount from faucet. Correct?
full member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 146
Of course, I'm not cheating.
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?

Hello!

As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.

Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.
We assume that you use casino  bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.

We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.

We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.

With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.

I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.
So what is your definition of faucet abuse?
I think "faucet abuse" means having multiple accounts, getting illegally, or exceeding the faucet limit.
Where does it apply
I'm not using a faucet with multiple accounts
There is a daily limit on the faucets on your site, right?
Of course, you can't use more than the limit.
I haven't used Faucet to the point of "abuse I think" in the past.
And is it an abuse of the faucet just to withdraw the $ 7,000 earned from the faucet?

Is it okay to withdraw $ 200? The definition around it is also vague and unclear.
If you can't make a profit using the bonus system, isn't it the same for others?

If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.

I don't think it's a well-received site, at least as far as I know.
Does it say it has tools and BOT?
If so, why can you decide?

Did they mention about the faucets and bonus should be used only for a demo which is not real money? I don't get their point either, as I suggested you should create a scam accusation and wait for the DT members opinion about paradice action and their definition of abuse in this case.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Of course, I'm not cheating.
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?

Hello!

As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.

Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.
We assume that you use casino  bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.

We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.

We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.

With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.

I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.
So what is your definition of faucet abuse?
I think "faucet abuse" means having multiple accounts, getting illegally, or exceeding the faucet limit.
Where does it apply
I'm not using a faucet with multiple accounts
There is a daily limit on the faucets on your site, right?
Of course, you can't use more than the limit.
I haven't used Faucet to the point of "abuse I think" in the past.
And is it an abuse of the faucet just to withdraw the $ 7,000 earned from the faucet?

Is it okay to withdraw $ 200? The definition around it is also vague and unclear.
If you can't make a profit using the bonus system, isn't it the same for others?

If I'm using BOT and earning money, I might stop it fraudulently, but if not, I think I'm a customer.

I don't think it's a well-received site, at least as far as I know.
Does it say it has tools and BOT?
If so, why can you decide?
newbie
Activity: 102
Merit: 0
stop shill posts! you are not going to get away with your scam predatordice.in casino!
full member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 146
Why can you say you can't offer it?
Does that mean Paradise.in may steal?
Faucets are actually worth in the inital stage like 5 years ago but now gambling sites can't afford to give you $7000 in the faucet because its just simple task where other sites are paying in cents only nowadays that is why I said the reward amount is too good to be true.
But the lack of conditions to withdraw from the faucet is where the website is being blamed, right?
And it's not just faucets.
I think there are about 200,000 Satoshi including the VIP bonus.
If you don't want to withdraw without depositing, I think you need to list everything.
And there are people who criticize Paradise.in for lying.
I suggest you to create a scam accusation against paradice if there is no proper response about the withdrawal blocked and how to resolve it because in the past the same kind of allegations was made and later it was resolved which can be seen in the trust page of OP itself.
full member
Activity: 865
Merit: 104
https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
Of course, I'm not cheating.
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?

Hello!

As we discussed previously, we had to do a check on faucet abuse from your side.

Although we didn't have specific rules on withdrawal from bonuses at that point, we see your disproportional withdrawal of $7000 without any deposit as faucet abuse.
We assume that you use casino  bonuses as a source of income, by farming bonuses at various places.

We will reward you $100, this is as much as we can got for free bonus farming, although we could have reserved the right to cancel your withdrawal completely because clearly you used bonus system to your advantage, and not for a demonstrational purposes as it was intended to be used when we created it.

We understand your frustration, but just try putting yourself in our shoes and think if it will be appropriate to see you as a client, and not a bonus abuser.

With all due respect, please refrain from accusing us of scam as we have great reputation with our clients, while we don't tolerate bonus abuse of any kind.
Although we didn't have "$100 maw withdrawal from bonuses without deposit" policy at that time, we had a point about faucet abuse in our T&S.

I hope that other projects will treat you better, as clearly you do have a system for gathering large money from bonuses.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354

No doubt, those who are willing to leave feedback will say good things about paradice.in although they have not even played as they are afraid to not get the reward if they say something bad.

No doubt you're posting here just to promote your website

LOL thanks for making me laugh.
First of all, I do not even have a website so I do not promote "my website" as what you say.
Secondly, even if I have a website, is it something wrong to post on your ANN thread because I'm using a signature?
Last but not least, you call me like that but you do it as well. What a joke.
staff
Activity: 3472
Merit: 4111
Crypto Swap Exchange
I think it is due to the new offer from Paradice on their website.
These brand new account will keep coming because Paradice is offering 5000 satoshi for anyone who leave feedback in this thread.



No doubt, those who are willing to leave feedback will say good things about paradice.in although they have not even played as they are afraid to not get the reward if they say something bad.
Thanks, I will send PM to the OP. This incentivising posting against the forum rules:
You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
Obviously, this triggers numerous low-value posts and should be stopped.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Of course, I'm not cheating.
I was suspected of being a bot, but I don't have that knowledge.
But did Paradise.in accept the loss because it ignored me?
Or are you testing things?
hero member
Activity: 2520
Merit: 783
Why can you say you can't offer it?
Does that mean Paradise.in may steal?
Faucets are actually worth in the inital stage like 5 years ago but now gambling sites can't afford to give you $7000 in the faucet because its just simple task where other sites are paying in cents only nowadays that is why I said the reward amount is too good to be true.

The amount used came from the faucet so its not about what he earn thru that option since they are talking about how he multiply his balance $7000 and its unfortunate to see this come and I think its legitimate winning if there's no abused used to win that amount. But let see how Paradice asses this issue since if they will not give a statement and be silent with the pending $7000 well that is a big red flag to them.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Why can you say you can't offer it?
Does that mean Paradise.in may steal?
Faucets are actually worth in the inital stage like 5 years ago but now gambling sites can't afford to give you $7000 in the faucet because its just simple task where other sites are paying in cents only nowadays that is why I said the reward amount is too good to be true.
But the lack of conditions to withdraw from the faucet is where the website is being blamed, right?
And it's not just faucets.
I think there are about 200,000 Satoshi including the VIP bonus.
If you don't want to withdraw without depositing, I think you need to list everything.
And there are people who criticize Paradise.in for lying.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
I love this site. It's very user friendly and unpretentious.  Not confusing at all. I have yet to withdrawal but I'm still getting the hang of it. The dice isn't extremely frustrating like some sites can be. Overall, I like paradice. The rain is also pretty neat as there have been a few times where I have logged in and had rain sitting there for me in my balance so its not like you have to constantly chat or play to benefit from rain. U also start off with real coin so no need to struggle with house coin conversion
.
full member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 146
Why can you say you can't offer it?
Does that mean Paradise.in may steal?
Faucets are actually worth in the inital stage like 5 years ago but now gambling sites can't afford to give you $7000 in the faucet because its just simple task where other sites are paying in cents only nowadays that is why I said the reward amount is too good to be true.
jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 5

I'm sorry it's hard to understand.
Why can't legitimate sites work in large numbers from faucets?
There are certainly many beginners.
I'm probably trying to hide my past posts.
It's not my cash, but I bet the faucet and VIP bonus and won and withe $7,000 to withdraw
Is it natural that I can't withdraw?
No, don't worry. It's not because because your fault, but rather those newbies accounts so i can't find your main post. But forget it, we are good now.

I see, so you were playing with faucet amount and by your luck, you turned it to $7,000 then you tried to withdraw it but it didn't successfull, right?

As far as i know, it's depends from the site. If they allow people to cashout, even though the winning come from faucet, your withdrawal will be successfull. I remember other site (duckdice) has allowed people cashed out 10 btc from faucet winning.

What is fishy is that they add max cash out rule from faucet after user asked for 7000$ cash out. Definitely scammers.
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