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donator
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Got my 50% today... Hopefully it won't be too long for y'all...
legendary
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@mb300sd - You probably want to remove your personal @gmail address from your previous post. Especially if you are expecting MtGox codes to be posted to that address

The *****s are my personal addresses and personal server. I don't use gmail.
hero member
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Mine Silent, Mine Deep
@mb300sd - You probably want to remove your personal @gmail address from your previous post. Especially if you are expecting MtGox codes to be posted to that address
legendary
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These emails seem to be coming from everywhere...but all gmail... Why so much trust in gmail?

An email with just a gox code looks like spam to most filters too, I wouldn't be surprised if some people's claims were dropped by the receiving mail server

At least its good to know gmail is using TLS when the receiving server supports it, so my code was never in plaintext outside of google's systems and my own. Doesn't help all those who don't host their own mail though.


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 ****************** (10.1.1.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id
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Received: by ghbz10 with SMTP id z10so12237502ghb.35        for
 <******************>; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:27:28 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
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Sender: Patrick Strateman <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 19:27:20 -0700
From: Patrick Strateman <[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120626 Thunderbird/10.0.5
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: <******************>
Subject: claim
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: ******************
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous
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Received-SPF: Pass (******************: domain of
 [email protected] designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender)
 receiver=******************; client-ip=209.85.160.176;
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hero member
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What a mess I don't want MTGOX code via email. I have provided a bitcoin address please send to that address that has been provided
hero member
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This is crazy... What is intersangos motivation for dealing with this anyway? I wish we knew their motivation. If we did we might understand this craziness. They should know better.

Goat - you ever get anything back yet?   I am still at ZERO!!!!!!

As for motivation.. I dunno.. at this point they have to finish this to clear their name... but the longer it goes the worse it gets.. I am not sure how much face they are saving anymore, if any. 

I do not think they will be able to save their rep no matter what happens.

And no, 0 coins returned even though I have been labeled as "accurate" for a long long time now.

 Sad


Also why are people so happy they are getting 50% back after months? Seems crazy...

I never even got an "accurate" yet,  what did you submit to get accurate?  I have submitted bitcoin txid's and my account has been active since almost if not _the_ first day bitcoinica opened..

legendary
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Also why are people so happy they are getting 50% back after months? Seems crazy...

50% is better than nothing and it gave me some hope...
hero member
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This is crazy... What is intersangos motivation for dealing with this anyway? I wish we knew their motivation. If we did we might understand this craziness. They should know better.

Goat - you ever get anything back yet?   I am still at ZERO!!!!!!

As for motivation.. I dunno.. at this point they have to finish this to clear their name... but the longer it goes the worse it gets.. I am not sure how much face they are saving anymore, if any. 
full member
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I received this as well :

"
ryan bitcoinica [email protected]
Jun 22

to me
Hi,

Your claim is marked as accurate."

I figured this was "legit" since it was an answer to a mail I sent to a bitcoinica adress
hero member
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i got the same thing too..  this was a few weeks ago.. nothing since..

ryan bitcoinica <[email protected]>

Hello, Your account is in the queue and waiting to be reviewed.
legendary
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Oh and don't forget to tune in tomorrow for the 2 months celebration of this epic disaster.

lets buy some old eggs
hero member
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Mine Silent, Mine Deep

This is ridiculous! I didn't register that email.

The email was not sent by me.

My headers also reference riseup.net which I think genjix uses. So maybe he registered this email under your name? Why did you guys switch from verify@bitcoinica to bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail com anyway? Seems like a step down in security to me since any typo with a gmail account can end up in a typo scammers mailbox.

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MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.52.72.137 with SMTP id d9mr6770556vdv.122.1340637876065; Mon,
 25 Jun 2012 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.220.34.5 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
References: <[email protected]>
   
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:24:36 +0200
Message-ID:
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Claim status request]
From: ryan bitcoinica <[email protected]>

Anyway, keep sending MtGOX codes over plain email. Sounds like a wonderful idea to me. After all my claim is only in the 5 digits. Say what - why don't you just throw the money on the street and I come and pick it up. Sounds secure to me.

Incompetence, Negligence, Willful Ignorance, Inconsistency, It's all here folks. Oh and don't forget to tune in tomorrow for the 2 months celebration of this epic disaster.

legendary
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

Code:
From: ryan bitcoinica

This is ridiculous! I didn't register that email.

The email was not sent by me.

i've got an answer from the exact same address.


Return-path: <[email protected]>
Envelope-to: [email protected]
Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:35:33 +0200
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In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:35:13 +0200
Message-ID:
Subject: Re: Bitcoinica Account XXXXXXXXX
From: ryan bitcoinica <[email protected]>
To: XXXXXX <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Delivered-To: [email protected]

Your account is marked as accurate.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:48 PM, XXXXXX<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> please tell me the state of my account.
>

are you telling us this mails are not official?
sr. member
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Please people do not worry, soon Patrick Donald and Genjix will receive a friendly government visit. My lawyer is telling me that Zhoutong is under age and that his patents or legal guardian can face prison and penalties, oh well. Sorry but you left me no other choice.

Maria Feliz.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

Code:
From: ryan bitcoinica

This is ridiculous! I didn't register that email.

The email was not sent by me.
newbie
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Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Yes, plain text e-mails.

It's things like this that lead me to condemn these people. They're not that dumb, they just don't give a F***.



maybe they just don't want to learn from mistakes... remember: Security is not their professional topic... they prooved more than once!
hero member
Activity: 761
Merit: 500
Mine Silent, Mine Deep
still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

That is funny because I received the following email from 'ryan bitcoinica'

Quote
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:15 PM, ryan bitcoinica
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,Your account is marked accurate.

Still have not received a dime back btw. 0. nada. zilch.
hero member
Activity: 761
Merit: 500
Mine Silent, Mine Deep
Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Yes, plain text e-mails.

It's things like this that lead me to condemn these people. They're not that dumb, they just don't give a F***.



Unbelievable. First I have to send all my private data unencrypted to [email protected], then to [email protected] (gmail.com - seriously!? I could have created [email protected], [email protected] etc. to catch all the typo emails from customers if I wanted to). And now they are sending GOX code over plain email?? After being warned by customers not to do this many times? Why are you they not showing the claim codes on the https personal claim page?

legendary
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Glad to hear people are getting some coins back.  I'm still waiting on my first 50%.
legendary
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Merit: 1003
Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Yes, plain text e-mails.

It's things like this that lead me to condemn these people. They're not that dumb, they just don't give a F***.

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