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It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Gambling is not a crime and everyone has the right to enjoy the fun part from gambling but they don't have to stuck with gambling addiction so we have to guide the into right way.

As long as we don't make a noise in the place or do any illegal things related to gambling, I think we can play without a problem. Gamblers who play in online gambling was increased and I am sure that many younger people play behind their computer or mobile phone. They stay at the gambling games because they found an exciting experience inside the games and they think that they can win the game many times but the truth, they cannot do that.

Yes, absolutely as per the time traffic towards the gambling sites has been increasing because of the younger people. The younger and beginner have started coming towards the gambling platform in the hope profits. But eventually, they will understand what does it the gambling. We don't have any problem with gamblers, we just make them alert to don't bend completely towards the gambling and get it addicted to it. Because in the beginning, people take it as fun but after the loss, they will get trusted and in trying to recovering the losing bets they play much more than they can afford. So we are trying to keep the youngster away from this thing, otherwise, it's their choice as well as money.

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Quote from: therhslv on May 22, 2019, 08:09:37 AM

I would say crypto is kinda gambling aswell currently , nobody knows how it will turn out at the end . But ofcourse crypto compared to gambling have less risk , but still..

crypto is more predictable than the outcome of gambling because there are guides in crypto . There are also signs and you can use them to be able to decide . They can somehow increase your chances of winning but it also depend on the coins that you are hodling .

Quote from: therhslv on May 22, 2019, 08:09:37 AM

Speaking about gambling thats really big business and i think there is no chance that it will be banned or closed .

Depends on a gambling . Some are small and some are big and it also depend on your country or on other factors if it will be banned or not .

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on March 06, 2019, 12:49:56 AM

Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

I agree because some peole may experience depressions, stress on something or bored they entertain their selves in gambling it may be bad and yet they enjoy it. You can't just judge a person in hisher physical appearance or what are they doing in their lives maybe it is their own way to forget what are they going through in their lives.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 10:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

I would say crypto is kinda gambling aswell currently , nobody knows how it will turn out at the end . But ofcourse crypto compared to gambling have less risk , but still.. Speaking about gambling thats really big business and i think there is no chance that it will be banned or closed . Can i ask does your friends have low income and they gamble to win big money ? Or they earn pretty much , but gamble for fun as they say ?

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 10:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

I just liked where you talked about children who are involved in gambling. To be sincere, it pisses me off when I see children who plays gamble, it's very bad and most of them I know usually ends up as the bad eggs in the society. From gambling they go into other stuffs like arm robbery and stealing. So we really need to stop children from gambling until they are adults and able to make that decisions themselves. Another thing is those people who are so addicted to gambling to they extent they can't control themselves, those people need to stop as well and learn to use their senses.

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Quote from: Betwrong on March 06, 2019, 09:15:06 AM

There's nothing wrong with trying to win some money, especially if the very process is enjoyable. Isn't that the same thing as treasure hunting when people invest their money in some equipment in hopes of finding something valuable? They mostly fail, by the way, and yet treasure hunting is not that frowned upon as gambling. And do you know why? That is because treasure hunting is not that popular as gambling, that's it. I bet there is the same percentage(around 3%) of treasure hunters who ruined their own lives, and perhaps, the lives of those close to them through their activities, as that for gamblers. And there are other similar pursuits too, and stock trading is one of them imo.

So, don't be so harsh on gambling. It's just one of those hobbies that can be very dangerous when abused.

I joined you in disagreement with op views on this an it some time very important you have explained to us here. Is there any business that did not has risk of losing? We do lose in any other forms of business just that the risk level varies and that is what matters.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 10:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

There are a lot of users who have been in gambling in a long time ago nevertheless they don't think they are addictive toward it. This kind of people plays each and every kind of games in the hope of making a profit. After a specific time later it will become pretty difficult for people like this to overcome from this situation. As far as people who make money when they play it seldom those who play it consistency will definitely lose the money. Gambling is not as bad as people think because if you playing it rarely or keeping gap then its must not addict you play like this.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 10:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I am not sure whether people will gamble on everything that is available without having a deeper understanding of the entire match and if someone does that, it is madness and nothing else, either they have a lot of money to gamble or they are trying their luck with the last penny they have to make a living, no one in the right sense will gamble off their hard earned money.

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As someone who have been gambling for the past few years, I find this thread quite offensive. Who gives you the permission to badmouth other people? Gambling is a perfectly legal activity, and we honestly pay our taxes to the government if we win. And trust me, most of the gambling sites do pay their taxes honestly and punctually. You don't have the right to abuse anyone, just because their behavior doesn't fit within your small frame of morality codes. As long as they are not gambling using money stolen from you, you should be fine.

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Recently I had some chat about this word "degen" with some people who gamble a lot. I didn`t know for that expression before so I found out more about it in that conversation. Gamblers who consider other gamblers degens, card players consider sports bettors "degens", sports bettors consider slot machine players "degens", etc... Gambler who will bet on anything and everything. Well In that chat we found out that we are all "degens" and we were proud of that! We like to gamble and we do it often, with the help of crypto now everything is much easier for all the people, no matter where you are from, or which bank card you use.
So why to not be a "degen" if you like what you are doing and you enjoy in that? If you don`t like something turn your head and focus on something else, judging someone, pointing fingers is useless and evil. Better watch for your life and what you are doing!

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Quote from: samputin on May 19, 2019, 01:35:18 AM

I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.

Exactly. The most difficult thing to do, is trying to change the mindset of a man who already has his mind concluded on an issue. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if that is what he feels about gambling and gamblers then there is nothing anyone would say that would make him have a change of mind.

Just like I have nothing against those who spend on gambling, its their choice, their life and their money as long as it makes them happy. Whether you spend on gambling or not, the money will still be spent. The most important thing is to do what makes you happy with your money and if gambling is among the things that gives gamblers happiness, then it’s wrong to judge or condemn them.

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Quote from: smyslov on May 14, 2019, 04:08:57 AM

It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.

I am always of the viewpoint that it is difficult to convince anyone on how much money he or she should spend on gambling. No matter how much we convnice them, people are emotional and do what their heart or mind says. I have warned few of my frineds of not to go all in, in gambling and they agre to me also, but later when they play, they got enotional and spend all of thier money, resulted in a big loss.

Thats why i say that people will not listen to our advices. They will learn from thier mistakes.

I feel it’s even better to let them make mistakes sometimes and they would learn better from their mistakes. One thing I have noticed is when it comes to gambling, you can never influence the decision of a gambler. No matter the good intentions you have, they would always feel like you don’t want them to enjoy their game.

And the bad thing about telling a player the amount to spend is that you can never tell the amount that they can afford to spare. $300 might look like a big amount to me but it’s just a chicken change to another gambler, so I can only advise a player to play with moderation and apply wisdom in playing.

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Quote from: smyslov on May 14, 2019, 04:08:57 AM

It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Gambling is not a crime and everyone has the right to enjoy the fun part from gambling but they don't have to stuck with gambling addiction so we have to guide the into right way.

As long as we don't make a noise in the place or do any illegal things related to gambling, I think we can play without a problem. Gamblers who play in online gambling was increased and I am sure that many younger people play behind their computer or mobile phone. They stay at the gambling games because they found an exciting experience inside the games and they think that they can win the game many times but the truth, they cannot do that.

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Quote from: samputin on May 19, 2019, 01:35:18 AM

I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.

Yes, that is indeed their life because they are in a gambling environment that will make gambling his lifestyle, but when you succeed in bringing him into another lifestyle to avoid gambling it is possible that this method can succeed in changing their minds. It's not easy, but when you care about them it is something that will be easy if you are sure to do it.

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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.

You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.

Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

Very interesting story. Thank you for sharing. I think different people with how they like to spend their money and they do it mostly on what gives them Joy. I like to spend my money on drinking and I don’t care how much a bottle of wine cost, as long as it is my brand, I would buy it and I have a brother who likes to spend on women, it is always freaking annoying when I see how much he spends on women at the club, but I never judge him for his actions, because I know that I am not perfect either.

I think we should learn to respect people’s decisions and stop using bad words on gamblers. That people spend their money gambling does not mean they do not invest in other things, its just their own way of having fun.

This is good if we don’t judge other people infect we should even try to gain knowledge from them, a person who loves to gamble will surely not care about how much he is spending on gambling but he will try to spend as time as possible in gambling, so I think it is good if you use gambling as source of gaining money or to make future but if you will use it for fun or enjoyment then it will make you best gambler.

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I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.

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Quote from: maydna on May 14, 2019, 09:00:17 AM

Quote from: smyslov on May 14, 2019, 04:08:57 AM

It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.

I am always of the viewpoint that it is difficult to convince anyone on how much money he or she should spend on gambling. No matter how much we convnice them, people are emotional and do what their heart or mind says. I have warned few of my frineds of not to go all in, in gambling and they agre to me also, but later when they play, they got enotional and spend all of thier money, resulted in a big loss.

Thats why i say that people will not listen to our advices. They will learn from thier mistakes.

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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.

You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.

Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

Very interesting story. Thank you for sharing. I think different people with how they like to spend their money and they do it mostly on what gives them Joy. I like to spend my money on drinking and I don’t care how much a bottle of wine cost, as long as it is my brand, I would buy it and I have a brother who likes to spend on women, it is always freaking annoying when I see how much he spends on women at the club, but I never judge him for his actions, because I know that I am not perfect either.

I think we should learn to respect people’s decisions and stop using bad words on gamblers. That people spend their money gambling does not mean they do not invest in other things, its just their own way of having fun.

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Quote from: mich on May 15, 2019, 11:58:29 PM

I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money. If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then.
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem

No word is too bad to be used on a person that wishes to destroy himself, compulsive gambling is a very negative way of gambling, and using negative words on compulsive gamblers should not be termed bad if that would transform them to become better players.

I don’t think anyone would use names on a person that decides to just entertain themselves in gambling without playing to the extreme. Gambling is fun and very good for entertainment but then, there should be a place for moderation in playing. Playing without control till one end up addicted makes the player degenerate. So I don’t care how people feel about this name because I feel, those compulsive gamblers really need to come back to their senses.

On the contrary, using harsh words or calling these compulsive gamblers terrible names as these would not change them in any way, instead it will only make things worse. The reason why most people become addicted to gambling is because they are trying to heal from a wound. Research was carried out sometime back and it was realized that many people who have suffered one trauma or the other, either in their early childhood or as grown up adults have the tendency to suffer gambling addiction.

I feel addicted gamblers should be shown love rather than calling them names. Most of them are playing out of their will.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 10:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

No, they are not, only those people who think they are, gambling has been part of human existence and it exists in all the generation and in all races, even in a country where gambling is prohibited, gambling has always been a form of entertainment it is up to government and individual to never get addicted to this.

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