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Quote from: gilangIDR on March 06, 2019, 11:51:00 PM

Only one that needs to be changed, we must change our perspective on the gambling game !!! Never make gambling a job, because if someone already considers gambling as a job they will get pressure. Make gambling a pleasure so we will get comfort !!!

Gambling is never meant for a full time job or balancing our financial situations. Gambling original is meant for pleasure and the ones who understand this can have benefits out of gambling. If any of the individual treats gambling as a full time job then he/she would end up in anxiety with no profits going bankrupt.

Gambling should always be treated much cautiously as it is the most addictive thing ever. Gambling can undauntedly give us profits but those profits should be treated as a bonus instead of treating them as a payment.

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Quote from: Adriano2010 on March 10, 2019, 05:26:24 PM

The gambling without any limit can be a problem for most of gamblers. I have a friend who even if he know he lost and not get profit on gambling he still gambling, i told him to try to keep his free time busy, he also move to another country and work there but still has a problem with gambling. But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.

I think he now becomes an addicting person in gambling because he still gambling, he doesn't listen to you as his friend, he cannot solve the problem with gambling. Maybe he needs someone that closest with him so that person can always remind him about the dangers of gambling for a long time. It's not easy but worth to try and if necessary give advice to his closest person to ask your friend to meet psychiatric and let the expert works to solve his addiction.

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Quote from: Adriano2010 on March 10, 2019, 05:26:24 PM

~ But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.

I agree with this, we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.

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The gambling without any limit can be a problem for most of gamblers. I have a friend who even if he know he lost and not get profit on gambling he still gambling, i told him to try to keep his free time busy, he also move to another country and work there but still has a problem with gambling. But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.

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The impact of gambling in my life was outstanding and teeth will give some untold happiness to me that's why I think a gamble a lot more but otherwise gambling is also like the best way to make money without any hard work no need the only smart work here and also it gives a huge entertainment for me when I was in this.

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Isn't calling them degenerates a bit harsh?

If their need to make money at all cost is a form of degeneration then I guess traders are also degenerates. What about used car salesmen? Cheesy

I can't change your mind just as I can't change a mind of someone who calls hookers whores. It's his way of releasing negative emotions towards them rather than opinion.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on March 05, 2019, 11:49:56 PM

Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

It is upto individual how they want to take it. Like for those who want to just make money will play only to win and most likely will end up losing a lot of money if do not stop at right time. While for others who just play to entertain them self will continue to gamble and enjoy irrespective of the results.

Because gambling has the possibility to make your life degenerates or worse then you have to prepare it as best you can. yeah it will depend on individuals themselves, whatever their goals in gambling, they have to prepare well like the amount of capital, controls and so on

You are only beast at performing a task only when you have experience and experience comes with failure so I think that if you want to get in to gambling, you would have to try out these adventures and they are really not risk free at all. In addition, self control is important and not letting yourself being deceived by the house at the table is the best trait of any gambler. There are great gamblers who have made names but that too at the expense of facing the risk.

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I don't find anything wrong in gambling with money you can't afford to lose unless you are addicted. If someone doesn't like gambling, he is allowed to stay away. But in the case of stopping children from gambling, Children below 18 are restricted from entering the casinos or gambling websites. Online gambling sites doesn't have much parameters taken to restrict children from gambling. If they do so, they should implement KYC and it is not welcomed by majority of the gamblers. So, parents should monitor their child's activity and prohibit them from entering casinos.

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Calling gambler a degenerate one is an underestimate word. I understand where you are coming from. All the hatred you've veen feeling and the contradiction you are expressing about gambling since you have friends who were so addicted with it. But why not try to gamble and let us see if you win huge amount and it doubled your money, come here and say again that gamblers are degenerates.

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It depends on the level of maturity you go with or the purpose behind the gambling, not many people gamble for fun, some gambles to make extra cash to add to their daily income in order to meet up with the un-ending responsibilities that surrounds us, we has men exploit different means of making money provided it does not involve killing and stealing which I believe gambling does not belong, we can only term gamblers as degenerated ones if they gamble for fun without purpose or gamble for an ulterior motives.

I remember one of these days I was coming from my office after closing late at around 7pm in evening and on my way going home, I decided to branch a gambling box very close to me though in FIAT, I remove my money to play which was little below 1 usd and low and below, my first play gave me about 615 usd in return which is quite close to what I earn monthly.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 09:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Gambling is not really the one who must be blamed in the series of addiction stories because gambling is just a game we can play. Now, addiction is the result created from the behaviors of the people who play gambling because they tend to treat gambling as a part of their life which is the bad thing. Actually gambling is fun and entertaining if you know how to play with it in proper moderation because once you have changed your mind especially with the aim why you are playing gambling, now that will cause the addiction. But if you have a tough mind that you can play gambling without getting addicted on it because you just tend to play for fun and enjoyment, now you do not have to worry about it. You have the choice within you if you will be going into moderation or the other way around because there is no bad thing in gambling, it is the people who plays it that makes the game bad. That is why whenever I play into an online casino I am currently into, I always keep in mind that I am playing for the sake of enjoying the variety of games they have even at smaller bet games to keep me out of addiction plus I can enjoy the great bonus I have received for doing my first deposit on it.

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Gambling is fun and entertaining as long as you are not addicted to it and children who are not mentally ready for gambling are not supposed to gamble infact children shouldn't gambling at all, gambling could be entertaining when you don't look for profit but enjoy the process when you bet, imagine you playing a game that can make you earn money and you can play the game with your friends, look for new friends in the gambling arena, it's the process that makes gambling really enjoyable, thrilling and exciting

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 05, 2019, 09:47:58 PM

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Its sad that we see there are those who are starting to play games or gamble at a very young age. Sometimes we think who should be blamed here, is it the government who should have a strict policy about who can enter gambling premises and at what age or is it the parents who should have educated their children not go to sites or places where gambling is active or it should be the owners of the site or place because they allowed it.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 06, 2019, 01:41:06 AM

In my opinion, gambling is not that different from playing games like PUBG, DOTA2, etc., it triggers "joy hormone" and give you a sense of accomplishment. Since young people often cannot control that urge to play (driven from hormone), they would easily be addicted, and in the end, their brain got permanently damaged.

At the end of the day, this is just about self-control.

and most of us are weak individuals, so we will be on the other side - gambling addicts! Tongue

but seriously immersing yourself into gambling is all about your choice in life.
i know its easy to say, but once you let yourself in this world, hard to get away from it.
your will power will be tested and very few people have the success of accomplishing that.

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Quote from: mersal on March 07, 2019, 05:02:00 PM

People are still in the confused mind to take the decision this will be the main problem for gambling will changing every time and going to the negative side of your decision but always been more calm and composed will needed and also important here so keep it yourself and make it yourself will be the most appropriate statement for this.

Situation makes gambler more confused on what decision they will made especially on a winning streak. Gambling almost control everything in our mind so if you don’t have focus then greed will play with you. Gambling is a game where you can lose everything, so you must be ready.

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People are still in the confused mind to take the decision this will be the main problem for gambling will changing every time and going to the negative side of your decision but always been more calm and composed will needed and also important here so keep it yourself and make it yourself will be the most appropriate statement for this.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 06, 2019, 10:42:11 PM

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I hardly consider this a "gotcha" moment since nobody attempted to trick you into anything. You've discredited yourself by your own lack of integrity having failed to take a principled stance against a behaviour on which you publicly claim to have a negative view.

Of course, he is mainly referring to the people on the extreme part of the spectrum and not the majority of occasional gamblers. Despite the fact that he thinks negatively about gambling in general (which I do too) but that's besides the point here. The whole signature situation is a funny coincidence but that doesn't mean he has no integrity or makes the statement less valid. That's like saying that someone who works for H&M must have nothing against child labor. Gotta do what you gotta do to get by.

Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 06, 2019, 11:26:49 PM

An addiction is a chronic disorder - a complex disease. People with addiction need treatment rather than your moral judgment of their character.

If you were brought up in an environment where this was never a problem and for some reason still contract the 'disease' and let it escalate to the point where it is everything you do on a day to day basis. Then it's your OWN fault and I have 0.0% pity for you whatsoever. If you know what the risks are before you get into it and still get addicted to it and lack the character to get out of it you ARE a degenerate.

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I think most people don't know what is a "money that you can afford to lose" especially the newbies in gambling. Most of them don't know how to handle their hard earned money to not put it all in their bankroll when gambling. Gambling may be part of our life but when it is being played too much and your focused is center on this, then it is not right to continue further.

Those who gamble without thinking or considering what is the outcome may it be good or bad, it's just that they risk too much just for the money because they think gamble could be a source of income which is literally not true.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 06, 2019, 01:41:06 AM

In my opinion, gambling is not that different from playing games like PUBG, DOTA2, etc., it triggers "joy hormone" and give you a sense of accomplishment. Since young people often cannot control that urge to play (driven from hormone), they would easily be addicted, and in the end, their brain got permanently damaged.

At the end of the day, this is just about self-control.

I agree with you completely and probably that is why there can be law enforcement to ban young ones below a certain age from gambling because they might not really know much about self-control but for a grown adult who has chosen his path and feels that is his way to become rich, he should be left responsible for his decisions.

I have a friend who was just an addicted gambler, he was called names for years and has lost a lot to gambling but earlier this year, luck shone on him and ho won lotto and right now he is among the richest people in my community. Like you said it’s all about self-control.

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My sister is working in a sport betting office and she told some stories about such addicted people. For example, the office worked on new year's holidays just because of there were a lot of ones who wished to make a bet. Or when se goes at work, some people are already impatiently waiting to the office open.

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