Topic: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind. - page 8. (Read 16263 times)

Yes. Gambling that is played without self control will only cause losses in the end. IMO gambling is not really bad as long as you only play it for fun and pure entertainment. But if you only sees it a source of income, and you play it with full addiction, for sure will losses will come to you naturally.

Many people are really involved the condition of what op is referring to as degenerating and I really think that they are going to remain poor as gambling is going to dry up their finance.  Jumping to any gambling opportunities will ever make you to be losing money in a long run.

Moderation is really the key to not get too much attention from gambling since it will trigger an unstoppable addiction if triggered without moderation. Gambling is just merely for fun for people in the past and it is not really used as a source of income, thus, people shouldn't focus too much in it because it might trigger the addiction.

I think that those people who gamble away their future and endanger the safety of their families need professional help. I don't think they are degenerates but they do have an illness and a problem that should be treated accordingly and they need to understand that what they are doing has a direct influence on those closest to them who are suffering.

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Gambling had been part of our culture since ages. It had become an entertainment and a way to earn money at the same time. It's really up to people how they contain gambling addiction and greed when they gamble. That is why we should really gamble with moderation. Gambling has a good side to in my own opinion, it can relieve stress and maybe a way to get to know new people.

But both are not good if done excessively because we have our own limits, whether all risks are borne by each individual or not, but how to manage them, don't let everything go like playing excessive gambling without controlling income and expenses when someone's addiction arises against gambling, it is the level of psychology of someone who is the most dangerous and may be able to do anything to be able to play, so don't overdo it.

Drug addict has a direct effect on your health and there is no positive aspect of it. Gambling addiction is also not so good but still better than drug addiction.

Gambling is not a crime but drug can be related with crime.

If "sick" is an offensive word for someone, then I apologize to those who were offended, and I just meant people suffering from an illness, those who need professional help. It is very uncultured, and I'd even say barbaric  to regard such people as inferior because in fact anyone of us can be in their place one day. Any gambler can be addicted to a game, the question is for how long? If it's 2-3 hours, and your bankroll is not greater than that what you can afford to lose, it's okay, but if it's days or even weeks or months, then there's definitely a problem somewhere.

When you see such a gambler whom has gambled to the extent of losing everything they have labored for, you just know immediately that they are suffering from addition and they need to be attended to.

I expect family and friends to be there for them. There’s no need for calling names as this would not change their perspective. The best is always to let them know there’s  need to visit a counselor. Addicted gamblers would never see anything wrong with what they do, irrespective of the consequences of their action.

I agree. There are so many gamblers continue gambling even thought they don't have any more money. They are in declined because of that. And there comes the case in which that someone will sell all his valuable assets in order to gather a lot of money to gamble. Such degenerate move.

So you're basically saying that gamblers are an immoral or corrupt or decline or deteriorate physically, mentally, or morally person

Since when that term applies to gamblers? If not for specific individuals ofc... But they are not "degenerates". You need start googling some words before assuming their meanings lol...

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People need to get over this mentality and misconception of anything that can be abused is inherently bad and immoral. Most people can drink alcohol and not have a problem. Most people can do drugs and not have a problem. Most people can have sex and it not become an issue. Same with food, or caffeine and lots of other things. There are a small minority that can't indulge in these things without them becoming a problem and develop addictions but those sorts of people are usually using the behavior to self medicate for some other issue they have and that's when it leads to problems. I personally don't know anyone who has a alcohol or gambling problem. I can indulge in both every now and again and all it is is entertainment to me.  Is it possible that I may develop an addiction to alcohol or gambling in the future? Sure. But I doubt it. I know my limits and I don't use either of them to escape my problems nor do they provide my only excitement in life. They're just entertainment to me, but to say all gamblers are degenerate is like saying all people who drink alcohol are and that's just not true. If people you know have a problem then do your bit to help them out or offer advice but don't make silly sweeping statements and tar everyone with the same brush just because of a minority.

Becoming a gambling addict is a process and it starts from what you call entertainment. I think it’s just better to be avoided. Gambling is like starting a journey that has no end and most times its difficult to turn back because of the curiosity to see the end of the journey.

If you say it is entertainment then i would say it is paying, loosing, pay more to recover the lost that makes it even more entertainment hereby becoming addictive. So, with my given illustration, you would realize the best thing is just to avoid gambling. There are other forms of entertainment than having to gamble

I agree. This is all a game of probability which is not a very good game to play because of the persistent uncertainties. Investor will always try to escape the uncertain things. So those who are degenerated are in other words irrational for they put in their money in assets that might not give back return.

But, since the gambling industry is very big to judge, there are people who generate/make money as well.

You are against of signature that you've worn? Then useless if they pay you weekly if you have a pretty negative view on it.

We have a different view on gambling and maybe I won't blame you on that. There's nothing wrong if you've to gamble for fun just to have entertainment at that time but if you think that gambling will be your source of income that is a very wrong idea.
You can control addiction don't blame gambling because you are now addicted, the fact is in your self.

I think the whole arguments is coming based on the headline addressing all who gamble as degenerates and many didn’t read thoroughly through the post to see where he mentioned those who do it to the extreme without control and at the same time there would be people as such who are also on the forum and would find that really insulting.

There would have been better ways to pass the message without calling names and like you have said and I agree with you, even those who play to the extreme shouldn’t be referred to as degeneratesor even sick as addressed by you, maybe we should just leave them ass addicted or aggressive gamblers

Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.

Then, I think people will need to learn how to decide to play gambling or not. And if they think that gambling will give the negative side for that person, he doesn't need to play gambling. But I think younger people will be the fast making decision on playing gambling because they have a big curious in many things and the chance for them to become addicted to gambling will wide open.

No doubt, gambling is a addiction and when you enter on addictive way, then definitely gambling will be dangerous for you, So it is normal thinking if you think negative about gambling.
Basically gambling made it to give us entertainment and if you play it to get entertainment then very good, but when you change your mind and start to play to earn and want profit from gambling then it will be a dangerous thing to you. So play it for entertainment and don't go to recover the loss and earn money form it.  

Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.