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Quote from: Coyster on December 11, 2024, 10:04:07 AM

I'm not sure i will put it like that, but i get what you mean. This could be Mo Salah's last season as a Liverpool player, because the club is yet to give him a new contract, i think there are also a couple of players out of contract at the end of this season, IIRC, Van Djik is one of those players. It is left for the club to sort out these issues, but even if they lose players at the end of this season, it'll only be a few, and they will not have to buy too many players to fix those gaps.

I meant about not only Salah but other players like Van Dijk, Becker who are older and have more injuries, less appearances and worse performances for Liverpool. Liverpool win and lose as a team, not only with a single player like Salah and when several old players have decreasing performances, Liverpool will have problems next seasons.

About Salah, when I wrote that post and now, there is difference as according to latest rumor, it seems Salah already agreed with a contract offer from Liverpool and he will sign it to stay with them.

A new deal from Liverpool possibly gets an agreement from Salah.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on December 10, 2024, 09:21:44 AM

Slot can enjoy very last chances to win titles with these players and has to plan to replace them as soon as possible.

I'm not sure i will put it like that, but i get what you mean. This could be Mo Salah's last season as a Liverpool player, because the club is yet to give him a new contract, i think there are also a couple of players out of contract at the end of this season, IIRC, Van Dijk is one of those players. It is left for the club to sort out these issues, but even if they lose players at the end of this season, it'll only be a few, and they will not have to buy too many players to fix those gaps.

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Liverpool make it 6 out of 6 in the champions league, fair to say they have recovered from the slip against Newcastle.

It was not a great performance from them, but that's the thing about a team in form, they don't have to be at their best to win games.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 09, 2024, 03:35:22 PM

Lol. You well know that's not possible.

Well, Leicester have performed the biggest miracle of the modern EPL era, this will be far less of a surprise, but is still very unlikely.

Liverpool make it 6 out of 6 in the champions league, fair to say they have recovered from the slip against Newcastle.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 09, 2024, 03:35:22 PM

That's correct, i am not trying to downplay what Arne Slot has done thus far, he has been brilliant, but we have to admit that he inherited a very strong and stable team from his predecessor Jurgen Klopp, a team that has competed with City for the title a couple of times.

Klopp did a lot of great things for Liverpool but when he announced to leave the club last season, they were competing for many titles. At the end, they failed to win Premier League title, no Champions League, and Klopp got a lot of critics by his early announcement than waiting for a season ending to do that.

Additionally, his squad were not perfect and there are weaknesses that cost Liverpool and Klopp in some seasons. It's hard to say that Klopp fixed those issues in his last season with Liverpool, and many star players have played for Liverpool in many years and they are counting down very last seasons with best performances. Things are happening with Manchester City now can occur with Liverpool in a next season because these star players have nearly same ages. Slot can enjoy very last chances to win titles with these players and has to plan to replace them as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on December 08, 2024, 05:14:11 PM

Well, Slot might be new to the league but not new to the game and his players are very much not new to the league. He did his homework and it’s been paying off.

That's correct, i am not trying to downplay what Arne Slot has done thus far, he has been brilliant, but we have to admit that he inherited a very strong and stable team from his predecessor Jurgen Klopp, a team that has competed with City for the title a couple of times.

Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 08, 2024, 03:59:48 PM

It will be an ironic scene if Leicester finishes above United.

Lol. You well know that's not possible.

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 08, 2024, 08:04:32 AM

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Do you consider Chelsea to be title challengers yet?

I don't consider Chelsea as a title challenger if their competitor is not Liverpool. I respect Liverpool with their impressive performances so far but with lack of experience of their new head coach, I feel this factor opens opportunities for other clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal.

You sound so much an Arsenal fan right now. Don’t want to insinuate that but you do actually.
You know Arsenal fans at the moment don’t want Liverpool having that league trophy, not for the sake that they aren’t good enough for it or are not doing enough to be title contenders, the problem is, the coach Slot is new to the league and should start from somewhere at the Europa position.

Well, Slot might be new to the league but not new to the game and his players are very much not new to the league. He did his homework and it’s been paying off. With the point gap Liverpool have accumulated over the past few weeks, any team really is having to contend with them.

I see what Chelsea is doing, I like it but, there hope is in the failures of Liverpool to win some of those important fixtures they’ve got forth coming.

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It was a remarkable one point won by Leicester in the dying minutes of the match. RVN has been remarkable since taking over, a part of me felt he would have been good enough to take the managerial role at United permanently. He now has to maintain the level of play and keep Leicester in the premier league next season, some bigger offers may be coming by then.

It will be an ironic scene if Leicester finishes above United.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on December 08, 2024, 04:02:55 AM

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Manchester City and Pep Guardiola have big troubles but they have a long season to fix their issues and to compete with Liverpool. Their problems are from player injuries, tactics and maybe more like lack of ambition and motivation to fight for more titles after winning many titles recent years.

They are struggling to fix these issues and it is hard for them, but I won't say they will not be able to do this. In addition, their competitors can have crisis in rest months of season, perhaps several weeks and matches are enough for Manchester City to take advantage.

Indeed, I cannot rule out the possibility that Manchester City can improve throughout this season. Injury problems have clearly affected the performance and results of some matches - but of course they are a team that can improve due to the depth of the squad and the ability of the coach. But I think this is not a good season for Manchester City and they should be prepared to fail to defend their title.

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Liverpool are playing impressively but they will have to be careful. Manchester City won't give up too early and two other competitors Chelsea and Arsenal are ambitious to win Premier League title. With Arsenal, it will be a first title after about twenty years, and with Chelsea it will be a start of new era with a new coach and many young players.

Manchester City is basically not to be underestimated - but I'm very optimistic about Liverpool. It's been a fantastic season for Arne Slot and he really needs to maintain his team's performance until the end of the season. I don't doubt Liverpool at all because I really hope they can stop Manchester City's dominance even if just this once.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 08, 2024, 12:19:28 PM

It is half-time and they are currently losing 2-1 to Spurs, but i think Chelsea are title contenders this season, if you are going to put Arsenal up there as title contenders, then i am afraid you have to add Chelsea, because they have been as good as Arsenal, prolly even better.

The question around Chelsea being contenders is more about their performance in recent years than this season. Arsenal have been runners up 2 years in a row, Liverpool have been up there for the past 6 or 7 seasons and Man City are well, Man City, before the season starts, these are the title contenders.

Chelsea are trying to break into that conversation and have to do much more than the rest.

Quote from: Coyster on December 08, 2024, 12:19:28 PM

That being said, we might not have "title contenders" this season, it is looking like we are gonna have a runaway champion in Liverpool, whilst other top teams battle for top 4.

It's turning out to be a dream weekend for Liverpool. Without playing they expected their lead to be cut by much, but they are looking to stay at least 5 points clear of everyone.
Potential runaway champions.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 08, 2024, 05:44:28 AM

Do you consider Chelsea to be title challengers yet?

It is half-time and they are currently losing 2-1 to Spurs, but i think Chelsea are title contenders this season, if you are going to put Arsenal up there as title contenders, then i am afraid you have to add Chelsea, because they have been as good as Arsenal, prolly even better. That being said, we might not have "title contenders" this season, it is looking like we are gonna have a runaway champion in Liverpool, whilst other top teams battle for top 4.

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 08, 2024, 08:04:32 AM

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Do you consider Chelsea to be title challengers yet?

I don't consider Chelsea as a title challenger if their competitor is not Liverpool. I respect Liverpool with their impressive performances so far but with lack of experience of their new head coach, I feel this factor opens opportunities for other clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal.

Chelsea and Arsenal would have had more difficulties in title competition of the leading club is Manchester City, not Liverpool. Manchester City are too experienced with title race in the last decade, and it causes big challenge for all of their competitors. Liverpool are strong now, but with their limited experience especially from their head coach, there are some big risk factors in Liverpool.

Chelsea is not among the Title Challengers yet and the f I will say it is Liverpool who is very good from the beginning of the season till now and Arsenal but their performance is not stable and it is waving. But if they are focus they can join the final game. Even though Liverpool head coach is not doing well in the team, the players are maintaining the integrity to win the game so they are on the pipeline. But for Manchester City and Manchester United, I don't think they will join the title challenge. Manchester City coach is due to be changed and we all thought the new coach of Manchester United would do something new but things are remain the same.
Arsenal can't be used to compare Chelsea for now because Arsenal is credibly doing well though they have lapses.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 08, 2024, 05:44:28 AM

Do you consider Chelsea to be title challengers yet?

I don't consider Chelsea as a title challenger if their competitor is not Liverpool. I respect Liverpool with their impressive performances so far but with lack of experience of their new head coach, I feel this factor opens opportunities for other clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal.

Chelsea and Arsenal would have had more difficulties in title competition of the leading club is Manchester City, not Liverpool. Manchester City are too experienced with title race in the last decade, and it causes big challenge for all of their competitors. Liverpool are strong now, but with their limited experience especially from their head coach, there are some big risk factors in Liverpool.

Firstly it's his first debut season in Premier League. Secondly, it's a first time he is participating in Premier League title race. If Slot can handle these challenges well, Chelsea and Arsenal won't be able to win Premier League in this season, but if Slot fails to resolve his own problems, Liverpool will lose the title to other clubs and Chelsea are one of most promising challengers.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on December 07, 2024, 05:59:55 PM

If there are any diehard Manchester City fans here - then I just want to apologize to say that, forget about plans to defend the title this season as it seems that hope is gone. Manchester City is still having difficulty improving its performance amidst a storm of injuries suffered by several important players. Pep Guardiola is having difficulty devising the right strategy even though they are actually still a good team.

Liverpool are expected to maximize their big opportunity to win the Premier League when they lead the standings with a high points gap. Chelsea and Arsenal are certainly dangerous - but for me they are not serious competitors. It's really hard to expect Liverpool to slip up after having that much of a points gap - so I hope they can maintain it.

No... I'm not a Manchester City fan. Grin

Yeap it's too far for Manchester City to catch up with points that are far behind while in several matches losing and drawing results this is not a contender or can defend its title.

Maybe now the Pep Guardiola era at City is over...

Liverpool are expected to be even more optimal in winning points and at the moment a great performance is difficult for them to slip... but we don't know in the future because this is only halfway through the season.

Chelsea and Arsenal are now competing closely although quite far away from Liverpool, but Arsenal always have bad luck towards the end of the season... but for the current season I don't know. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 07, 2024, 11:49:38 AM

When the postponed match resumes, Liverpool will play it with bigger pressure than if it can be played as initial schedule. In addition, on that resuming day, perhaps Liverpool and Everton will have opposite forms than now.

With the schedules for the next 1-2 months, the postponed fixture will be played at the earliest after 2 months, the table outlook will have changed a lot, Liverpool possibly could not be at the top of the table or may have increased their lead to double figures.

Quote from: _BlackStar on December 07, 2024, 05:59:55 PM

Chelsea and Arsenal are certainly dangerous - but for me they are not serious competitors. It's really hard to expect Liverpool to slip up after having that much of a points gap - so I hope they can maintain it.

Do you consider Chelsea to be title challengers yet?

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Quote from: _BlackStar on December 07, 2024, 05:59:55 PM

If there are any diehard Manchester City fans here - then I just want to apologize to say that, forget about plans to defend the title this season as it seems that hope is gone. Manchester City is still having difficulty improving its performance amidst a storm of injuries suffered by several important players. Pep Guardiola is having difficulty devising the right strategy even though they are actually still a good team.

Manchester City and Pep Guardiola have big troubles but they have a long season to fix their issues and to compete with Liverpool. Their problems are from player injuries, tactics and maybe more like lack of ambition and motivation to fight for more titles after winning many titles recent years.

They are struggling to fix these issues and it is hard for them, but I won't say they will not be able to do this. In addition, their competitors can have crisis in rest months of season, perhaps several weeks and matches are enough for Manchester City to take advantage.

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Liverpool are expected to maximize their big opportunity to win the Premier League when they lead the standings with a high points gap. Chelsea and Arsenal are certainly dangerous - but for me they are not serious competitors. It's really hard to expect Liverpool to slip up after having that much of a points gap - so I hope they can maintain it.

Liverpool are playing impressively but they will have to be careful. Manchester City won't give up too early and two other competitors Chelsea and Arsenal are ambitious to win Premier League title. With Arsenal, it will be a first title after about twenty years, and with Chelsea it will be a start of new era with a new coach and many young players.

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If there are any diehard Manchester City fans here - then I just want to apologize to say that, forget about plans to defend the title this season as it seems that hope is gone. Manchester City is still having difficulty improving its performance amidst a storm of injuries suffered by several important players. Pep Guardiola is having difficulty devising the right strategy even though they are actually still a good team.

Liverpool are expected to maximize their big opportunity to win the Premier League when they lead the standings with a high points gap. Chelsea and Arsenal are certainly dangerous - but for me they are not serious competitors. It's really hard to expect Liverpool to slip up after having that much of a points gap - so I hope they can maintain it.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 07, 2024, 07:14:33 AM

Unfortunately, the Merseyside derby had to be postponed due to bad weather conditions, so both clubs will not be in action this weekend. It helps Liverpool to be fresher for their match with Girona next Tuesday, who are hosting Real Madrid today, but it also means their lead at the top of the table could be cut down to 4 points at the end of this matchweek. There will be the game outstanding, but psychologically it can have an effect on the players.

Arsenal will now face Fulham and Monaco before welcoming Everton who will have lots of rest days to prepare for them.

The match postpone will give advantage to Arsenal and Chelsea as they can temporarily reduce point differences with Liverpool after this week. They are 7 points less than Liverpool and if they can win their matches this weekend, they can reduce point differences with Liverpool to only four. This will bring more pressure on Liverpool because having 7 point difference is better than only 4 point difference.

When the postponed match resumes, Liverpool will play it with bigger pressure than if it can be played as initial schedule. In addition, on that resuming day, perhaps Liverpool and Everton will have opposite forms than now.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 06, 2024, 05:41:00 PM

That is a tough run of fixtures, though i strongly believe they will get something out of one or maybe even more of those games, and the Merseyside derby is looking like the likely one.

Unfortunately, the Merseyside derby had to be postponed due to bad weather conditions, so both clubs will not be in action this weekend. It helps Liverpool to be fresher for their match with Girona next Tuesday, who are hosting Real Madrid today, but it also means their lead at the top of the table could be cut down to 4 points at the end of this matchweek. There will be the game outstanding, but psychologically it can have an effect on the players.

Arsenal will now face Fulham and Monaco before welcoming Everton who will have lots of rest days to prepare for them.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on December 06, 2024, 01:14:51 PM

Everton after Liverpool will be visiting Arsenal, hosting Chelsea and visiting City. A very busy December for them against all teams in the top four. It will sting for whichever of those teams they are able to take points from.

That is a tough run of fixtures, though i strongly believe they will get something out of one or maybe even more of those games, and the Merseyside derby is looking like the likely one. Everton are only 5 points off the drop zone, thus they have to give their best in these tough fixtures this month, so they do not find themselves in a precarious situation come the new year.

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on December 05, 2024, 04:38:40 AM

I'm quoting this post again...
You're right, the intensity of the game was so high that the game was exciting but it was Liverpool goalkeeper Kelleher who made the mistake... when Newcastle had a free-kick... and then took it but Kelleher let it go... and the goal happened... Arrrhhh I was annoyed to concede again in the last minute. Angry

The last goal from Newcastle United though. I take nothing of the first 2 goals because, it’s only normal that some on pitch player does make the mistake that would produce a goal and they were about that all game. Eventually, Liverpool got ahead when you would think it’s all done because, that’s what they’ve been looking for all game, a chance to get ahead but, the celebration wasn’t even done with yet and in the 90th minute, barely 7minutes after the M. Salah’s goal, Fabian Schar gave Newcastle the equalizer.
That was so what every Arsenal fan was wishing for.

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