Poker coming to stake.com in the near future !

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 09, 2023, 10:08:52 AM

To catch BIG players and start to fight in the poker scene they need not only to start poker in the website, but also make some very big tournament of Poker with big stars of the poker journey playing it.

But for this you need a big chunk of money, Stake has it but i dont know if they want to spend it in this right now.

To attract the attention of the poker community, Stake needs to launch not one big tournament but rather a series of tournaments with a huge guarantee. I think popular poker players and even some celebrities would not mind taking part in a poker tournament with a huge prize pool. As far as I know, some poker rooms sometimes give celebrities free tickets to expensive tournaments, thus attracting a new audience to their brand.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on November 09, 2023, 08:23:35 AM

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There are not that many players on some tables of the popular crypto poker websites now. I think it's best for them to keep it exclusive to their very own network and not to tandem and venture with other poker websites. That's the perk of being on stake and they've got their own network and don't need to collaborate with the others.

But if they're also kind and looking forward to have ventures with other networks integrating their system and network with the others, it's also good though.

It is to make the job easier if they're going to let the actual providers do the job for them and let just the brand name itself be attached to it. But it's actually a nice idea to make the poker crypto nights live again because it seems that it's being forgotten by the most. And since there are new ones that want to learn about it, we'll just have to wait to the final day announcement and launch of it.

Exclusiveness has benefits. Keeping a unique environment that gives players a unique experience is a power move. Quality and exclusivity are shown by the site's network. Although it's difficult, they appear to be doing their best to keep the community close and the games intimate.

Intergrating with other networks could add new energy and players. Crypto poker nights, which are declining, may revive with the collaboration. Alligning with others while keeping their brand's strength and integrity is a brilliant move.

With the new launch so anticipated, Stake.com is likely considering these possibilities. Every action is likely calculated to ensure they serve their community well.

They already have a huge based of players and customers and that's why whatever will be the setup of it, for sure that they won't go with zero players on their tables and that's why those poker players are only waiting for the right time to check on how they'd with this.
If it's something usable and likeable by most of them then they will have to stay on it and check if it's a good environment.

The feeling of being exclusive might be considered and that's not going to be taken away from their players so, I guess that's the best option that they have to do. An exclusive tables for their users and those that are not yet registered will register to try and check them out just as what people are voicing about them.

Quote from: Blitzboy on November 09, 2023, 08:23:35 AM

New faces may spark curiosity and attract keen learners. That final declaration will change everything, so let's wait.

That is what I am saying that there will be for sure new registrants that will like to see how it's good and beneficial for them. Yeah, it's just going to be a matter of time so we wait.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 01:40:01 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on November 08, 2023, 12:02:32 PM

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Normal rake % on average online is 5%, also with a max rake per hand of course so a 10k pot wont be raked 500$, that would be crazy.

You forget to factor in the rakeback, in ggpoker the rakeback would be ranging from 15% up to 85% if you get your account to the highest rank on there so the amount is actually smaller but its still huge when you get decent amount of players playing nonstop. Anyway the amount of people overlaying a tournament is a good indicator that the site is packed though

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 01:40:01 PM

Real poker players don't consider themselves gamblers but the most people at stake surely are.

Yeah we dont

. Hence we have the word 'professional poker player' not a 'professional slot player'

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 09, 2023, 10:08:52 AM

To catch BIG players and start to fight in the poker scene they need not only to start poker in the website, but also make some very big tournament of Poker with big stars of the poker journey playing it.

But for this you need a big chunk of money, Stake has it but i dont know if they want to spend it in this right now.

Hopefully they will implement it sooner than later, though.
I am personally interested in partaking in poker (mostly in real life, with real people and real chips) but if States does the investment and brings poker tables on their platforms, it would spend sometime trying to sharpen by skills there and also in some other online poker simulations which would not require me to wager actual money.
Probably, the staff in charge of the development of Stakes games are focusing on maintenance of their Originals rather than bringing new experiences, and since we are talking about one of the biggest casinos on this industry of crypto gambling, it would makes sense for them to focus on what it has been a successful formula for them.
Though, some innovation and investment in poker would be awesome.

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To catch BIG players and start to fight in the poker scene they need not only to start poker in the website, but also make some very big tournament of Poker with big stars of the poker journey playing it.

But for this you need a big chunk of money, Stake has it but i dont know if they want to spend it in this right now.

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Quote from: passwordnow on November 09, 2023, 02:32:19 AM

There are not that many players on some tables of the popular crypto poker websites now. I think it's best for them to keep it exclusive to their very own network and not to tandem and venture with other poker websites. That's the perk of being on stake and they've got their own network and don't need to collaborate with the others.

But if they're also kind and looking forward to have ventures with other networks integrating their system and network with the others, it's also good though.

It is to make the job easier if they're going to let the actual providers do the job for them and let just the brand name itself be attached to it. But it's actually a nice idea to make the poker crypto nights live again because it seems that it's being forgotten by the most. And since there are new ones that want to learn about it, we'll just have to wait to the final day announcement and launch of it.

Exclusiveness has benefits. Keeping a unique environment that gives players a unique experience is a power move. Quality and exclusivity are shown by the site's network. Although it's difficult, they appear to be doing their best to keep the community close and the games intimate.

Intergrating with other networks could add new energy and players. Crypto poker nights, which are declining, may revive with the collaboration. Alligning with others while keeping their brand's strength and integrity is a brilliant move.

With the new launch so anticipated, Stake.com is likely considering these possibilities. Every action is likely calculated to ensure they serve their community well. New faces may spark curiosity and attract keen learners. That final declaration will change everything, so let's wait.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on November 09, 2023, 04:32:54 AM

So the waiting to me is ok because is better to wait a little than rush into something that may result in future problems and losses for the casino

Waiting until they have come to the actuality of what they're going to add on their feature is much better.

I just remember when one of the most known poker crypto website in the forum had dominated the scene on this one. That's what I've known for so long but in terms of fiat poker clubs and casinos, I think they're incomparable.

Quote from: Ojima-ojo on November 09, 2023, 04:32:54 AM

because new game implementation is not as easy as we think from the outside.

I agree, it takes time and perfection but as long as it works and being liked by its customers after the release, that's nice.

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Quote from: Agbe on October 24, 2023, 10:48:06 AM

They can join the poker network at the moment and develop their poker games and when they are fully ready they can it to the already existing ones or they removed the previous or the former ones and bring their new created pokers but before they can do that they have to test the new ones with the old ones for sometimes and see the workability of the both before finally removing the affiliated ones. Stake bringing poker to their platform is a good news because poker is favorite for many gamblers.

Before launching a new development into an already existing system like stake, their is a need to first of have a proper test of the new game to be able to detect any possible bugs and get i them fixed before anything else can be done, and also if Stake really has taken this long to have the development done and served to the customer there will have to go through a long time of preparation to get everything set and ready.

So the waiting to me is ok because is better to wait a little than rush into something that may result in future problems and losses for the casino because new game implementation is not as easy as we think from the outside.

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There are not that many players on some tables of the popular crypto poker websites now. I think it's best for them to keep it exclusive to their very own network and not to tandem and venture with other poker websites. That's the perk of being on stake and they've got their own network and don't need to collaborate with the others.

But if they're also kind and looking forward to have ventures with other networks integrating their system and network with the others, it's also good though.

It is to make the job easier if they're going to let the actual providers do the job for them and let just the brand name itself be attached to it. But it's actually a nice idea to make the poker crypto nights live again because it seems that it's being forgotten by the most. And since there are new ones that want to learn about it, we'll just have to wait to the final day announcement and launch of it.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 20, 2023, 12:33:15 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on October 19, 2023, 06:15:47 PM

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Unless they don't want to handle it on their own.

They need to partnership with provider-game example like (EVO-Games) while the table and everything is being setup for them and that's the reason why these plan really take the time. IMO, Eddie & Stake team don't want to opened or handle the game by their own because to much things to do for the set up system they just can easily do partnership with other provider.

The only problem, right now we don't have any live-game poker and to set up these things required a build from scratch. I hope these poker table are live-game not just a machine things.

They already have Video Poker under their Original Games and that did not ruffle my feathers at all. I would like to see P2P poker championships and also some kind of spectator side betting on those matches.

Poker can be a real money spinner, if you do it right... so they should not do some half ass attempt at doing this. The other Stake original games are getting a lot of action, because they are solid games. Wink

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 08, 2023, 12:02:32 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 04:33:38 AM

Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.

That doesnt mean their huge player base would be making money for them through poker. Poker site needs to provide decent prizepool on each tournaments to attract player to join which means as long as it doesnt overlay the prizepool then the site wont be making money. Aside from that only a handful of people actually make money from playing poker thus as time passes lots of players will be hesitant to join if they are losing money constantly

So is there anything new regarding poker progress on Stake?

The most money is not made by tournaments, the money is in cash games where every single hand gets raked and stake gets a cut from the pot. Tournaments and SNGs are just another part but cash game surely is the biggest money maker in offering poker to players.

Normal rake % on average online is 5%, also with a max rake per hand of course so a 10k pot wont be raked 500$, that would be crazy.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of people play tournaments, but not the players stake is targeting. They hanve gamlers on their site that want immediate action.
Tournaments take a lot of time and not every tournament is open to play immediately. Cash game is a sit and play game where people that just lost at black jack or sports can let off even more steam and gamble more.

Real poker players don't consider themselves gamblers but the most people at stake surely are.

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I didnt know this but i think is good for the community, Poker is not a easy bussines like some here are saying, you can see some well stablished pages trid it before but ended up closing the poker place because it was not redituable.

But Stake it can be one huge player on the flop, so they can have the back to support the money flow required and also they have a very huge base of players who can jump into it, so lets see how all this develop in the future, i really want to see them open the poker side, and see good and big tournaments with big prizespools.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 04:33:38 AM

Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.

That doesnt mean their huge player base would be making money for them through poker. Poker site needs to provide decent prizepool on each tournaments to attract player to join which means as long as it doesnt overlay the prizepool then the site wont be making money. Aside from that only a handful of people actually make money from playing poker thus as time passes lots of players will be hesitant to join if they are losing money constantly

So is there anything new regarding poker progress on Stake?

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Quote from: vennali on November 08, 2023, 01:25:40 AM

Can't wait! I think crypto poker scene hasn't really grown much for the past few years and could really use some mainstream push. Doesn't get any more "crypto mainstream" than Stake. I'll definitely try it out once its active. I'm sure they will get some poker pros on board as well to get more popular among the poker scene.

I also really don't understand what's the holdup.
Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.
After you made this you can sit back and collect rake. Of course you have to make your team bigger, create a poker devision. But that's an investment totally worth the hussle.

Poker has so much exposure on streaming and youtube as well, so it is another chance for free advertising. Many serious poker players would love to jump on the chance playing against degenerate casino gamblers for a change. Grin

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 19, 2023, 08:02:19 AM

If they decide to collaborate with big poker network such as ggpoker, they have bigger chance to survive with the poker.
Lets say Stake prefer to create their own poker network, I think it is not a bad idea since they have big player base already now and it is a good start.
Most other sites that failed in the past are mostly new sites that come with poker game only and started like from ZERO so it is reasonable if most of them failed.
Betcoin and fortunejak or may betnomi, these 3 sites did try to have poker but all of them also failed although they have player base but I'm sure the number of active players are not as big as what we can see in Stake.

I remember FortuneJack's poker, it was amazing but sadly no one was playing. I think that crypto casinos fail with Poker because almost all of them started with game Dice and crypto casino for me, an early user, is associated with dice. Since 2017, crypto casinos slowly adopted other games, add slots, sportsbooks, live casinos. I remember there was no Sportsbook on FortuneJack, Bitsler, Stake. We only had betcasino and nitrogen at first, then sportsbet.io was made in 2016. I think crypto casinos need to promote poker and they'll succeed.
Collaboration with poker networks is a quick solution. That won't be bad but I think casino, as big and popular as Stake is, can have its own network and is able to maintain it.

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Can't wait! I think crypto poker scene hasn't really grown much for the past few years and could really use some mainstream push. Doesn't get any more "crypto mainstream" than Stake. I'll definitely try it out once its active. I'm sure they will get some poker pros on board as well to get more popular among the poker scene.

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They can join the poker network at the moment and develop their poker games and when they are fully ready they can it to the already existing ones or they removed the previous or the former ones and bring their new created pokers but before they can do that they have to test the new ones with the old ones for sometimes and see the workability of the both before finally removing the affiliated ones. Stake bringing poker to their platform is a good news because poker is favorite for many gamblers.

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Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.

Well, I honestly do not know what made you think that Stake does not have the type of networking and connections required to get into the poker market and come out with something everyone would truly enjoy playing and also can turn out profitable for the company. And also, talking about reputation, there is absolutely no gambling casino, both physical and online, that do not have some form of scam accusation against them. Understand that most gamblers are some set of angry people who in reality do not understand what gambling is all about, they are quick to accuse a casino of cheating them out of their money after losing the money.

So, the reputation is nothing to be a problem, in-fact, to me, Stake is one of the most trusted and reputation casinos around, they also have the money and whatever kind of connection required to pull this off, if they weren't capable, they wouldn't try, this i am very sure of, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 24, 2023, 08:32:37 AM

You place your bets at Pinnacle, but do you already play poker in other casinos, or other poker sites as well? Unless you're truly a poker player, what difference would Stake bring for the users of BitcoinTalk if they develop and build their own poker service? Why would you say that you'll leave them if they don't offer poker?

Good question and I have an even better answer.
First off, yes I played poker for a long time, right when the hype started in 2003. Been through many sites and places.

For real poker players it would be heaven if stake added poker, maybe only in the beginning though.

Imagine all these players at stake, losing at sports and in the casino. Maybe they just know the basics of poker and now want to "try their luck" at the poker tables. That's what real players are dreaming of. It would be easy to win their money. Obviously over time the word spreads and more and more good players would come to stake to pick up those fishy players but until then it's go time.
You could compare it with Macao when they first introduced poker there. Rich Chinese business men basically burned their cash losing against just a hand full of pros. Nowadays they pros are travelling to and even living in Macao just to pick up these easy $.

By the way, where are you coming up with the story I would leave stake if they don't add poker? I am already leaving stake (because of the weak sportsbook), but I will come back when they add poker, for the just mentioned reasons. Wink

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But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it this year since they might eventually launch it next year or later.

Since I am not an active Stake user I guess they will not see me until the next year, if they add poker...

Exactly my thought.
After my level up, which is most likely next week, I will become inactive as well.

As soon as they offer poker I will give it a shot and see if there is money to be made but until then I place my bets at pinnacle since the odds are considerably higher there.
These micro bonuses now don't even the missed out money because of the low odds.

Anyway, maybe we can make a raffle, haha. When will stake officially offer poker on their main site. Grin

You place your bets at Pinnacle, but do you already play poker in other casinos, or other poker sites as well? Unless you're truly a poker player, what difference would Stake bring for the users of BitcoinTalk if they develop and build their own poker service? Why would you say that you'll leave them if they don't offer poker?

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Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.

It's probably also the smallest and most competitive market, but if Stake believes that they found an opportunity to build something profitable in the Bitcoin/crypto community, then they should hurry before another casino takes the opportunity, no?

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