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Topic: Poker talk - Specifically Hold'em - Hands and or strategy - page 7. (Read 4766 times)

legendary
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Sorry I'm at work lol. Shouldn't wait on me to much. I assumed this was a loss as the bad beats are what you bring for our enjoyment lol.
Tough call on what they have especially given the game. Some of these guys will bet any T like it's the nuts. That wouldn't get you a loss, i like what webtricks thought about the 22. I still think depending on stakes they might not raise any pocket pair.
So i'll take JJ with a J on the river.... or the KK/AA lol. This is a big leak I had to overcome letting go of monsters in these spots.

And yes as mentioned before your hand should never be folding here.
legendary
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Let me make up my final mind. Now thinking from the other guy's head. You said he was the one who raised to pot amount on flop. Considering only 2 10 and Q were dealt, he surely making pair from the flop cards. So he's either holding 2 or 10 or Q. If a player is holding QQ, 9 out of 10 times, player raises in preflop. So I am ruling out the possibility of QQ here. My guess is he's holding 22. River card was another 2. You lost QQTTT against 2222.
Got yours and now let's wait for Steamtyme on his final thought before I post the result 😀
legendary
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Let me make up my final mind. Now thinking from the other guy's head. You said he was the one who raised to pot amount on flop. Considering only 2 10 and Q were dealt, he surely making pair from the flop cards. So he's either holding 2 or 10 or Q. If a player is holding QQ, 9 out of 10 times, player raises in preflop. So I am ruling out the possibility of QQ here. My guess is he's holding 22. River card was another 2. You lost QQTTT against 2222.
legendary
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You were a newbie once not so long ago.

Sorry if I offended you with my presence.

I am still newbie man, not even 2 and half months that I am in poker. And you did not offend me brother. I took it easy as usual.

I only saw QQ as the risk, now I realise A 10 and so on thanks to FOMA

You mean an A10 in the other one's hand?
Yeah and in the river he will need another A
K10 and int he river K is another possibility for him to win too.

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This is why I keep losing. Im not quite seeing it all
I play a lot of free rolls both in SwC and in sportsbet.io. Try them. More time means you will have more experience with the hands.
legendary
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Free spirit
You were a newbie once not so long ago.

Sorry if I offended you with my presence.

I only saw QQ as the risk, now I realise A 10 and so on thanks to FOMA

This is why I keep losing. Im not quite seeing it all

sorry bt
legendary
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i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river? Tongue
I must say you have a good analytical sense. FYI, my river always sucks, in vary rare case I get favor from the Poker God LOL

How many winning combinations the other guy can have?

AA and in the river: A
KK and in the river: K
QQ and in the river any card
JJ and in the river: J
Any card from hearts and he has two hears in his had

What else he can have?

i guess there is a possibility he is semi-bluffing the heart flush draw, but obviously he's drawing dead since you have a boat.

he checked from the BB, so he could have anything going in. random ten combinations come to mind.

the bet-call on the flop and small bet on the turn (rather than shoving) suggests he could be holding a T. if he's holding KT or AT, i could see a potentially nasty river outcome here. Tongue

i'm still not folding.......

Why not just tell us, if you don't want the opinions you asked for?

it's better this way. posting the full results at the same time encourages "results-oriented" analysis. this way, we can run through the likely possibilities without being influenced by the actual hand result.
Globb0, patience brother, you ain't having fun here? 😀

@figmento, I am not going to say anything yet on your inputs to ensure that others are not getting biased from it. Let's wait for Steamtyme and webtricks to give their final inputs before I post the result. I hope you are cool till then?

What does that mean? I don't get it
Here  you go another one 😀



The first one was because you did not realize in the first place that the river was yet to come.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1483
i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river? Tongue
I must say you have a good analytical sense. FYI, my river always sucks, in vary rare case I get favor from the Poker God LOL

How many winning combinations the other guy can have?

AA and in the river: A
KK and in the river: K
QQ and in the river any card
JJ and in the river: J
Any card from hearts and he has two hears in his had

What else he can have?

i guess there is a possibility he is semi-bluffing the heart flush draw, but obviously he's drawing dead since you have a boat.

he checked from the BB, so he could have anything going in. random ten combinations come to mind.

the bet-call on the flop and small bet on the turn (rather than shoving) suggests he could be holding a T. if he's holding KT or AT, i could see a potentially nasty river outcome here. Tongue

i'm still not folding.......

Why not just tell us, if you don't want the opinions you asked for?

it's better this way. posting the full results at the same time encourages "results-oriented" analysis. this way, we can run through the likely possibilities without being influenced by the actual hand result.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 2053
Free spirit
What does that mean? I don't get it

Why not just tell us, if you don't want the opinions you asked for?
legendary
Activity: 2800
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
legendary
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Free spirit
Oh I see 1 more card to come. What a tease.


legendary
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i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river? Tongue
I must say you have a good analytical sense. FYI, my river always sucks, in vary rare case I get favor from the Poker God LOL

How many winning combinations the other guy can have?

AA and in the river: A
KK and in the river: K
QQ and in the river any card
JJ and in the river: J
Any card from hearts and he has two hears in his had

What else he can have?

A good tell if they may have this pocket pair is did they 3-bet you pre-flop?? Not always but this can be a clue to their holding
May be this will help.
As you can see he was the BB so
In the pre-flop I think I gone with BB, he checked
In the flop he rose and I doubled I guess. I did not want to go big, I wanted to milk others to maximize my return and then he called it
In the turn you can see he placed 300 chips and it was my turn...

May be this will help to understand his moves in the hand.

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1483
Either you have won this hand, or SwC has the most rigged random generator or stars are absolutely not with you.
I think I should wait for few more users to have their input in it.

Say other guy has a AA or KK or JJ, will he go ALL-IN in this situation?
How about having QQ for the other guy?

at these chip stacks, the guy is pot committed either way.

even if he 3bet preflop (suggesting possible QQ) there's pretty much no way i'm getting away from this hand on that board at these stacks. second nut boat, no quads possibility, and you've already put in damn near your whole stack. this is one spot where i'm smooth calling the turn and getting the rest in on the river.

i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river? Tongue
legendary
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Merit: 2037
the problem with limping is there are 3 more to act preflop. we're guaranteed at least 3 in the pot (if no one raises) and i may not be in position postflop. in terms of preflop equity a limp seems fine but the problem is the difficulty in playing it postflop with a small stack.
for sure. In these cases i'm really just paying for a flop. Kind of a delayed all-in. It really depends on how the villains proceed. If i connect with the board there is a good chance i'm jamming regardless.

I don't know if i'm going to continue to deviate from a push/fold here with limping. I have to give it some more time but it's also not a spot i run into often. I almost prefer being oop in these spots, if BB checks it looks fairly strong.

You are only losing to 1 combination at this point QQ. I would probably put them all-in here, the other option is call and see if they keep barreling the river.. If you lose to a 1 or 2 card outer with a KK AA holding so be it but you can't play a winning game and fold expecting that to happen. It would suck but sometimes it is just your turn to lose chips unfortunately.
Most likely they have the other T, overpair, or straight/draw, flush draw.

A good tell if they may have this pocket pair is did they 3-bet you pre-flop?? Not always but this can be a clue to their holding
legendary
Activity: 2800
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Either you have won this hand, or SwC has the most rigged random generator or stars are absolutely not with you.
I think I should wait for few more users to have their input in it.

Say other guy has a AA or KK or JJ, will he go ALL-IN in this situation?
How about having QQ for the other guy?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1728
Okay guys, here is a hand and how would you progress when you will have such hand?

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In the pre-flop I gone with BB and then in the flop I think I gone with pot amount or called the guy khaleddj, really can not remember but in the turn what would you do?
I will tell mine after listening some of you although it's very much assumable
However keep in mind that in poker you will have better hands always from the other guy.
I have the screenshot of the next turn and how we ended but let's hear all of you first

I see you are already very much into the game so it is do or die position for you. With Full House on turn, I will surely going 'all-in' on this hand. There are very less possibilities to lose from there. Let me count, if other guy is holding AA, KK, QQ, JJ, A10, K10 or 22, only then the other guy has a chance to win if river turns out to be one of A, K, J or 2. Else you are winning this hand. Possibility of that happening is 1 in 1611. Either you have won this hand, or SwC has the most rigged random generator or stars are absolutely not with you.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 2053
Free spirit
What is the threat? I suppose if he has 2 queens.

Check and let him try and push you off?
legendary
Activity: 2800
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Okay guys, here is a hand and how would you progress when you will have such hand?



In the pre-flop I gone with BB and then in the flop I think I gone with pot amount or called the guy khaleddj, really can not remember but in the turn what would you do?
I will tell mine after listening some of you although it's very much assumable 😝
However keep in mind that in poker you will have better hands always from the other guy.
I have the screenshot of the next turn and how we ended but let's hear all of you first 😀
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1483
If you had limped behind you might have been able to push them off with a kxx flop.  I have begun to call some limpers as opposed to raising them... especially in the series play.

the problem with limping is there are 3 more to act preflop. we're guaranteed at least 3 in the pot (if no one raises) and i may not be in position postflop. in terms of preflop equity a limp seems fine but the problem is the difficulty in playing it postflop with a small stack.

Is anyone going to review this hand?

AA vs KK......not much to be said. you both played it correctly.

there's a big element of chance involved in preflop all-ins. KK beats AA nearly 1 in 5 times. that's poker!
legendary
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Lol not a poker term. I was referring to the hand you posted here. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54340381

A couple of us weighed in on it, and I,m curious how the river played out.
That! damn it!!
I can not remember how I lost but I lost that hand. I think it was a flush with K. If I am not wrong then that guy had a K-hearts with another two hearts in his hand. He gone ALL IN and I was happy about it to go ALL IN too but after showing the cards I was shocked! I think I had the flush in mind too when I called ALL IN but still I called because it was nearly an impossible provability because I had the Q of hearts too.

Sorry guys, I should have followed up with it.

Edit,
Now check this
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54469483





That guy on my left, ajvar89 - how the fuck he call my ALL in with his J8 hearts in The Flop? It's okay that the other guy called it too coz he had a K pair already. In the flop I got a straight AKQJ10, I have no reason not to go ALL IN and I was wishing the guy on my left to call me and he did, I was super happy. Then when the guy in the right called too, I was in the moon! Then I saw both of them were calling each others in the turn and also in the river. I was silently enjoying it. But when the hands were shown - and when saw the river had this A hearts then I had nothing to do.

Calling big in the River make sense for this guy on my left but before that even in the turn how the fuck he was knowing that he is going to get another hears in the river and will have a fucking flush?

Crazy AF!
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2037
Lol not a poker term. I was referring to the hand you posted here. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54340381

A couple of us weighed in on it, and I,m curious how the river played out.
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