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I wouldn't listen to unsubstantiated rumours unless they're from a reliable source, but I am starting to question whether this fight is still going to happen and I wouldn't be surprised if Fury comes out with an "injury" excuse or something.
I do not know if faking an injury is something Fury is going to do to get out of the fight. With history on the line and millions in their pockets, both boxers really should be fully motivated because this opportunity might never come knocking on their door again. Fury did talk the talk for so long  therefore the onus is on him to ensure he puts on a great performance.

If he wasn't fit or ready then injury is the usual excuse even if it's just to postpone the fight to give him some extra time to train, but it looks like the promo is going to start now so we'll see. The lack of promo and activity from all parties involved was starting to make people suspicious.

P.S. Imho people are more interested in AJ vs Ngannou and Beterbiev vs Bivol in April.
I think the Joshua vs Ngannou fight is going to be brilliant to watch and will end with Ngannou winning by a clear knockout. After watching what Ngannou did to Fury, I am confident the fight will be on the same lines as when Ruiz defeated Joshua.

An Ngannou KO wouldn't surprise me at all, but I'm going with what I said about the Fury fight: either Francis KO or AJ on points. The press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going live in London in a few minutes. Watch it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oES2Ke6bi80
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I wouldn't listen to unsubstantiated rumours unless they're from a reliable source, but I am starting to question whether this fight is still going to happen and I wouldn't be surprised if Fury comes out with an "injury" excuse or something.
I do not know if faking an injury is something Fury is going to do to get out of the fight. With history on the line and millions in their pockets, both boxers really should be fully motivated because this opportunity might never come knocking on their door again. Fury did talk the talk for so long  therefore the onus is on him to ensure he puts on a great performance.

P.S. Imho people are more interested in AJ vs Ngannou and Beterbiev vs Bivol in April.
I think the Joshua vs Ngannou fight is going to be brilliant to watch and will end with Ngannou winning by a clear knockout. After watching what Ngannou did to Fury, I am confident the fight will be on the same lines as when Ruiz defeated Joshua.
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Still no undercard and I suspect the press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going to overshadow everything else, which is supposed to be today but I've not heard anything about it so far which is weird so not sure if it's still happening today or not.

Also on February 17 we have UFC 298 - Volkanovski vs. Topuria, plus bunch of other cool fights. UFC even is going to steal some viewers.

They'll be on at different times though. The UFC fights are normally early Sunday morning in the UK and the Saudi boxing will probably be at a reasonable time of 8PM GMT.

Still no undercard and I suspect the press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going to overshadow everything else, which is supposed to be today but I've not heard anything about it so far which is weird so not sure if it's still happening today or not.


The fight is in one month only, and there is almost no promotion of it. Anyone ever saw a banner somewhere? Checked Fury media - he not a single post of him training. Where it is going to be aired? DAZN ? ESPN ? TNT Sports ? Expect fight not to happen. Everyone will again talk how it is impossible to negotiate with other side due to money.

As linked above Turki Alalshikh posted it on his insta and both Tyson and Usyk shared it to their stories. Not sure why they haven't posted the poster to their main pages yet but I'm sure it's coming. They really do need to ramp up the promo but maybe they've been finalising the undercard to make some big fights to grab headlines. It should be a feast of fights combined with the AJ/Nagannou fight but they're going to be competing for the big names which Eddie has promised for the AJ/Ngannou fight, and if there's going to be any of the fighters from the last AJ fight they'll probably have to skip the Fury/Usyk card as they'll need the extra month for training no doubt. Opetaia is rumoured to be on the Usyk fight which could happen since he took no damage in his last fight: https://www.boxingscene.com/jai-opetaia-land-on-feb-17-fury-usyk-undercard-train-with-fury-ahead-championship-defense--180644


P.S. Imho people are more interested in AJ vs Ngannou and Beterbiev vs Bivol in April.

I dunno. It's pretty close for excitement but I think the undisputed has to take precedence but they really need to start hyping it up. Personally I think the Fury/Usyk fight could be boring but someone's O has to go so there's jeopardy there. Hopefully there's a bit of spice in the fight rather than just Usyk dodging everything Fury throws at him.
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Still no undercard and I suspect the press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going to overshadow everything else, which is supposed to be today but I've not heard anything about it so far which is weird so not sure if it's still happening today or not.

Also on February 17 we have UFC 298 - Volkanovski vs. Topuria, plus bunch of other cool fights. UFC even is going to steal some viewers.

The fight is in one month only, and there is almost no promotion of it. Anyone ever saw a banner somewhere? Checked Fury media - he not a single post of him training. Where it is going to be aired? DAZN ? ESPN ? TNT Sports ? Expect fight not to happen. Everyone will again talk how it is impossible to negotiate with other side due to money.

P.S. Imho people are more interested in AJ vs Ngannou and Beterbiev vs Bivol in April.
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Well it looks like they're finally doing some promo at least as they've finally unveiled the promo poster for the "Ring of Fire" fight on their socials:



https://www.instagram.com/p/C2FBgZrt1GY/

Still no undercard and I suspect the press conference for the AJ/Ngannou fight is going to overshadow everything else, which is supposed to be today but I've not heard anything about it so far which is weird so not sure if it's still happening today or not.
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Rumours are going around that Tyson Fury could pull out of the fight because he is not motivated enough.

Personally, I do not believe he will postpone the fight but his motivation has to be questioned. After his trilogy of fights against Wilder, it seems as though Fury has not been at his best and does not portray himself as someone who is desperate to unify the titles. Usyk has himself not been at his absolute best either but hopefully both boxers will be ready to fight on the night..

I wouldn't listen to unsubstantiated rumours unless they're from a reliable source, but I am starting to question whether this fight is still going to happen and I wouldn't be surprised if Fury comes out with an "injury" excuse or something. I'm not sure what more motivation he would need than the ridiculous amounts Saudi are throwing at him. The fight is a little over a month away now and there's been zero press for it. It's almost like it isn't even happening. Neither fighter or their respective promoters have been posting about it or mentioning it in interviews and there's still no undercard fighters announced and some reputable boxing podcasts have also started to question whether it's still happening. If they don't announce a press conference or start promoting it on social media soon what are they waiting for? Something just doesn't feel right with a fight of this magnitude. The press conference for the AJ/ Ngannou fight is on Monday and the promoters have promised some huge fight announcements for the undercard so that fight is at risk of overshadowing this one, especially if it's another stacked card and with Wilder, Zhang and Parker all rumoured to be on it it easily could.
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Rumours are going around that Tyson Fury could pull out of the fight because he is not motivated enough.

Personally, I do not believe he will postpone the fight but his motivation has to be questioned. After his trilogy of fights against Wilder, it seems as though Fury has not been at his best and does not portray himself as someone who is desperate to unify the titles. Usyk has himself not been at his absolute best either but hopefully both boxers will be ready to fight on the night..
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If you look through the mainstream media, it does seem to be very quiet even though the magnitude of what is actually going to happen on 17th February 2024 is known to boxing fans and the media.

I cannot remember a fight anywhere close to the prominence of a unification being muted to this level. They had a face to face and after that it has been fairly quiet. It goes without say there will be an increase in hype and promotion as the countdown to the fight begins in the beginning of February but maybe this strategy suits both boxers as they can simply stay away with their training teams and focus on their preparations.

It's the biggest fight lined up for sure but I've not really seen much hype or promo for it in a while. Maybe the big Saudi Day of Reckoning fight took over for December. Have they got any press conferences lined up? You'd think they'll start to ramp up promo now since it's next month and the busy Christmas and new year period is now over. I don't think they've announced any undercard fights yet either. Hopefully the Saudi's didn't blow all their beans on last month's fight.
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I cannot think of any real exciting sports events taking place between today (new years day) and the day of the Fury vs Usyk fight (17th February). I suppose this is going to be one of the biggest sporting events of the year if not the biggest. As I stated before, it is the first time a unification heavyweight boxing fight will take place since Lennox Lewis defeated Evander Holyfield in 1999.

It's the biggest fight lined up for sure but I've not really seen much hype or promo for it in a while. Maybe the big Saudi Day of Reckoning fight took over for December. Have they got any press conferences lined up? You'd think they'll start to ramp up promo now since it's next month and the busy Christmas and new year period is now over. I don't think they've announced any undercard fights yet either. Hopefully the Saudi's didn't blow all their beans on last month's fight.
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I cannot think of any real exciting sports events taking place between today (new years day) and the day of the Fury vs Usyk fight (17th February). I suppose this is going to be one of the biggest sporting events of the year if not the biggest. As I stated before, it is the first time a unification heavyweight boxing fight will take place since Lennox Lewis defeated Evander Holyfield in 1999.
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Sorry for the late reply, but I have taken it from Stake. But yeah, it seems that there's mad swing as far the betting odds as I have check just now and the odds are:

Fury: 1.57
Usyk: 2.30

Maybe some whales decided to throw early money on Fury and thinking to take advantage of that good odds in the beginning. Sometimes this kind of swing odds happen very early or very late in the fight, like days before the actual fight, some entities will suddenly also do the same and bet large amount.

I think I will go for a draw on this one. It's currently 18/1 on Skybet. Hard to call for me, and given that it's a two-fight deal maybe a draw would be best to hype up the final showdown, though no doubt we'd then see a third fight to settle it once and for all, especially if it's close.

Whoa! This is an interesting way of looking at the match. If this fight is a draw, a second fight would have to be a knockout to do away with a trilogy. But if this is going to be a great show, I'm sure fans won't mind watching them over and over again.

Draws are always a good bet in boxing at least as far as the odds are concerned, but it's more or less a throw-away bet. I can't remember betting draw on boxing matches, but if I did I'm sure I'm also betting on other odds to make up for what I lost from it.

On another note, the odds are almost back at 1.62 for Fury. I hope it would rise more as the fight day comes close. I'm confident of my ML bet on him.
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I think I will go for a draw on this one. It's currently 18/1 on Skybet. Hard to call for me, and given that it's a two-fight deal maybe a draw would be best to hype up the final showdown, though no doubt we'd then see a third fight to settle it once and for all, especially if it's close.
If this was a one-off fight where both of these boxing giants would not have any rematch clauses, then I am sure we would see a different fight altogether. If they both knew their legacies and their reputations were on the line and there was not going to be a second chance, they would put everything in to it and go for a win with a different mentality to one where they knew there would be a rematch.

I think Usyk could easily outbox Fury but I also think Fury could KO him or just wear him down over the fight using his weight to tire Usyk out, but maybe Uysk is too smart and nibble to allow Fury to do too much of it.
It is after all the first time a heavyweight unification fight will take place since 1999 when Lennox Lewis defeated Evander Holyfield that is why boxing fans who support them (and neutral fans) are curious to see the two in the ring because either could win as they have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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As per the latest odds:

Fury: 1.62
Usyk - 2.21

The odds I saw in box.live have a significant difference from those you've given. Where did you get those odds? Are those taken from a betting platform? In box.live the odds were 1.53 for Fury and 2.5 for Usyk. In Sportsbet, it's the same for Fury at 1.53 although lower for Usyk at 2.28. I'm for Fury in this fight. If I can find better odds for Fury like those that you've posted, I'd be interested to bet an outright. I really am not expecting an upset on this one.

Sorry for the late reply, but I have taken it from Stake. But yeah, it seems that there's mad swing as far the betting odds as I have check just now and the odds are:

Fury: 1.57
Usyk: 2.30

Maybe some whales decided to throw early money on Fury and thinking to take advantage of that good odds in the beginning. Sometimes this kind of swing odds happen very early or very late in the fight, like days before the actual fight, some entities will suddenly also do the same and bet large amount.

I think I will go for a draw on this one. It's currently 18/1 on Skybet. Hard to call for me, and given that it's a two-fight deal maybe a draw would be best to hype up the final showdown, though no doubt we'd then see a third fight to settle it once and for all, especially if it's close.

Now that Usyk has seen Ngannou fight the way he did against Fury, I do not think Usyk will take Ngannou as an easy win if they ever met in a boxing ring. I would say the Usyk would win against Ngannou but it would be a tough fight. Anyway, it is better for Usyk to keep his eye firmly on the fight against Fury and leave aside any other possible opponents.

As for who would win when Fury and Usyk face each other on 17th February 2024, ordinarily, I would state that Fury would edge it but if it went to the judges scorecard anything could happen including a draw.

I believe too that Usyk will suffer worst if he will fight Ngannou because this beast is trained well to fight heavy weight in boxing while he has a very destructive punch. I though he was gonna be a glass cannon since he is amateur on boxing yet he is resilient like tire rubber.  Cheesy

Usyk has the lateral movement, and I think that will be one of his advantage against Francis, although Ngannou has some feet as well. But if Usyk can avoid the power punches of Francis and make his frustrate if ever they fight, then he can win by points in the judges scorecard.

For this fight, both needs to be in 100%, mind games might also play in this one, Usyk is taking advantage of Fury's lackluster performance and for sure he will stick it out during their press conference. But for me, size does matter in this fight, so Fury despite his poor performance against Ngannou, will try to be better here and win thru judges card by unanimous decision.

I don't think Usyk needs to do anything and that will get in Fury's head alone. Usyk merely saying I'll do the talking in the ring at the first press conference was enough to rattle Fury. Fury's game plan will no doubt be to try rile Usyk up but I don't think it will work as he's too calm and collected for that and probably doesn't want to stoop to Fury's level. Fury will likely play both dirty in the build up and the fight. Expect a lot of leaning and low-blows from Fury, especially if Usyk is just dancing around him, which I expect will be the case. It's an interesting fight to me and hard to call. I think Usyk could easily outbox Fury but I also think Fury could KO him or just wear him down over the fight using his weight to tire Usyk out, but maybe Uysk is too smart and nibble to allow Fury to do too much of it.
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For this fight, both needs to be in 100%, mind games might also play in this one, Usyk is taking advantage of Fury's lackluster performance and for sure he will stick it out during their press conference. But for me, size does matter in this fight, so Fury despite his poor performance against Ngannou, will try to be better here and win thru judges card by unanimous decision.
I think we are in agreement with each other, for this fight Fury will try to be better than in his performance against Ngannou and to be clear, if he is as bad then he will probably be knocked out by Usyk. Having said that, I expect Fury will be back to his best and also think Usyk will be back to his best after his recent fights. The boxers will be looking forward as they try to make history.

I am almost 100% sure that we will never see such exotic fights. If Usik beats Fury, he will simply retire immediately and go undefeated. One of the big boxers (I don’t remember exactly who) recently expressed this idea and I completely agree with it. If Usik loses, then maybe we will see a Usyk-Wilder or Usyk-Zhilei fight and maybe a rematch against Fury, but then, regardless of the result, he will leave. He doesn't look like someone who would abuse his body even when his age does not allow him to maintain a decent shape.
Whatever happens in the ring, the outcome will have a sizeable impact across the boxing world. Will the winner of the fight even make one defence of their unified title? The chances are they will try to make at least one for the money but best really should know when to quit.
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As per the latest odds:

Fury: 1.62
Usyk - 2.21

The odds I saw in box.live have a significant difference from those you've given. Where did you get those odds? Are those taken from a betting platform? In box.live the odds were 1.53 for Fury and 2.5 for Usyk. In Sportsbet, it's the same for Fury at 1.53 although lower for Usyk at 2.28. I'm for Fury in this fight. If I can find better odds for Fury like those that you've posted, I'd be interested to bet an outright. I really am not expecting an upset on this one.

Sorry for the late reply, but I have taken it from Stake. But yeah, it seems that there's mad swing as far the betting odds as I have check just now and the odds are:

Fury: 1.57
Usyk: 2.30

Maybe some whales decided to throw early money on Fury and thinking to take advantage of that good odds in the beginning. Sometimes this kind of swing odds happen very early or very late in the fight, like days before the actual fight, some entities will suddenly also do the same and bet large amount.
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Usyk shouldn't just base his assessment of Fury's abilities solely on the Ngannou fight. It's possible that Fury didn't take that match as seriously, resulting in a less intense training regimen compared to his usual rigorous routine. Now that Fury has experienced the close call and understands the risk, he might step up his training for the upcoming bout, catching Usyk off guard with a more unpredictable performance.

This make sense and possibly that fight against Ngannou is a wake up call for Fury to not slack in training but instead give Fury a reason to try more harder.  I really think Fury got lucky on the judge call on that fight.  It was really close and I have Ngannou winning on that fight.

While Usyk is undeniably skilled and wouldn't be a champion otherwise, in my opinion (though I may be biased), Fury still appears to be the superior fighter. Personally, I don't anticipate the upcoming contest to be closely contested, Fury might win via KO or by majority decison.

I have Fury  to be the one with advantage in this fight until he fought Ngannou that gives me doubt on Fury's domination against Usyk.  If Fury do the same performance when he fight  Ngannou, I think Usyk might be the one to unified the belt.
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Now that Usyk has seen Ngannou fight the way he did against Fury, I do not think Usyk will take Ngannou as an easy win if they ever met in a boxing ring. I would say the Usyk would win against Ngannou but it would be a tough fight. Anyway, it is better for Usyk to keep his eye firmly on the fight against Fury and leave aside any other possible opponents.

As for who would win when Fury and Usyk face each other on 17th February 2024, ordinarily, I would state that Fury would edge it but if it went to the judges scorecard anything could happen including a draw.

I am almost 100% sure that we will never see such exotic fights. If Usik beats Fury, he will simply retire immediately and go undefeated. One of the big boxers (I don’t remember exactly who) recently expressed this idea and I completely agree with it. If Usik loses, then maybe we will see a Usyk-Wilder or Usyk-Zhilei fight and maybe a rematch against Fury, but then, regardless of the result, he will leave. He doesn't look like someone who would abuse his body even when his age does not allow him to maintain a decent shape.
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Now that Usyk has seen Ngannou fight the way he did against Fury, I do not think Usyk will take Ngannou as an easy win if they ever met in a boxing ring. I would say the Usyk would win against Ngannou but it would be a tough fight. Anyway, it is better for Usyk to keep his eye firmly on the fight against Fury and leave aside any other possible opponents.

As for who would win when Fury and Usyk face each other on 17th February 2024, ordinarily, I would state that Fury would edge it but if it went to the judges scorecard anything could happen including a draw.

I believe too that Usyk will suffer worst if he will fight Ngannou because this beast is trained well to fight heavy weight in boxing while he has a very destructive punch. I though he was gonna be a glass cannon since he is amateur on boxing yet he is resilient like tire rubber.  Cheesy

Usyk has the lateral movement, and I think that will be one of his advantage against Francis, although Ngannou has some feet as well. But if Usyk can avoid the power punches of Francis and make his frustrate if ever they fight, then he can win by points in the judges scorecard.

For this fight, both needs to be in 100%, mind games might also play in this one, Usyk is taking advantage of Fury's lackluster performance and for sure he will stick it out during their press conference. But for me, size does matter in this fight, so Fury despite his poor performance against Ngannou, will try to be better here and win thru judges card by unanimous decision.
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Now that Usyk has seen Ngannou fight the way he did against Fury, I do not think Usyk will take Ngannou as an easy win if they ever met in a boxing ring. I would say the Usyk would win against Ngannou but it would be a tough fight. Anyway, it is better for Usyk to keep his eye firmly on the fight against Fury and leave aside any other possible opponents.

As for who would win when Fury and Usyk face each other on 17th February 2024, ordinarily, I would state that Fury would edge it but if it went to the judges scorecard anything could happen including a draw.

I believe too that Usyk will suffer worst if he will fight Ngannou because this beast is trained well to fight heavy weight in boxing while he has a very destructive punch. I though he was gonna be a glass cannon since he is amateur on boxing yet he is resilient like tire rubber.  Cheesy
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