[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 20.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 06, 2024, 07:46:35 AM

The fight is taking place next month and one thing has been almost constant from when the contracts were signed, the promotion is exceptionally muted. I cannot recall any important heavyweight boxing clash ever receiving less news and promotion. When you consider this is the first heavyweight unification fight since 1999, the silence is baffling.

This fight should happen and after I watch how Usyk climbs the ladder from unifying all belts Cruser Weight to be a champion in the heavyweight right now and the only one left for him is Fury to beat, I want to watch and cheer him in his journey to become Unified Heavyweight Champion this year. we all want to see this one and this is undoubtedly a big fight compared to Ngannoue vs Fury because Usyk is more capable of beating Fury and has a high chance to unify all the Heavyweight Belts. They need to make it happen this year since both of them are about to reach their limit and settling it next month is the only way to satisfy the fans of whoever wins the fight.

Big belly has over a month to train harder. I believe Fury is determined because he has no choice, he is cornered and it will be a shame if he ducks once again which is normal to him. But I still believe he won't enter the ring unless he is performing well in his sparring sessions. He already trimmed down in weight as expected and now he needs to maintain it.

I wonder what's next for AJ after his big win over Ngannou. Usyk and Fury are locked in with a rematch clause. I would like AJ to take on IBF mandatory, Filip Hrgovic or a rematch with WBO interim holder Joseph Parker.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 08, 2024, 04:39:37 PM

Finally there is a video from Usyk, it took a long time. The problem is the amount of talk there is going on in the media. Fury is keeping a low profile with the exception of his recent sparring video and we are scratching our heads wondering where the promotion is. Where is the media hype?

Could it really be a case of both boxers simply being focused on their training to the extent they have almost closed themselves off from the outside world media?

Quote from: Baofeng on April 08, 2024, 03:26:53 PM

Well for those who wanted to see some kind of promotion, here is a video of Usyk

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1777428051938210132

Not that much, and there are another video of him hurting his sparring partner with a quick over hand left. We will probably see a video of Fury then next trying to trash talk Usyk with those videos that he released.

I speculate that if Tyson Fury is very quiet, this is where he might be spending all of his time only on training and creating new tactics with his father. I reckon that it should be very clear that the Fury we have witnessed against Francis Ngannou did not train. He was eating, drinking and watching his cartoon shows while Francis was in the gym hehehe.

However, Tyson Fury presently has been training 24 hours a day without a rest. He uploaded his latest picture on social media. You will notice the very big difference.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 06, 2024, 07:46:35 AM

The fight is taking place next month and one thing has been almost constant from when the contracts were signed, the promotion is exceptionally muted. I cannot recall any important heavyweight boxing clash ever receiving less news and promotion. When you consider this is the first heavyweight unification fight since 1999, the silence is baffling.

This fight should happen and after I watch how Usyk climbs the ladder from unifying all belts Cruser Weight to be a champion in the heavyweight right now and the only one left for him is Fury to beat, I want to watch and cheer him in his journey to become Unified Heavyweight Champion this year. we all want to see this one and this is undoubtedly a big fight compared to Ngannoue vs Fury because Usyk is more capable of beating Fury and has a high chance to unify all the Heavyweight Belts. They need to make it happen this year since both of them are about to reach their limit and settling it next month is the only way to satisfy the fans of whoever wins the fight.

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Finally there is a video from Usyk, it took a long time. The problem is the amount of talk there is going on in the media. Fury is keeping a low profile with the exception of his recent sparring video and we are scratching our heads wondering where the promotion is. Where is the media hype?

Could it really be a case of both boxers simply being focused on their training to the extent they have almost closed themselves off from the outside world media?

Quote from: Baofeng on April 08, 2024, 03:26:53 PM

Well for those who wanted to see some kind of promotion, here is a video of Usyk

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1777428051938210132

Not that much, and there are another video of him hurting his sparring partner with a quick over hand left. We will probably see a video of Fury then next trying to trash talk Usyk with those videos that he released.

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Well for those who wanted to see some kind of promotion, here is a video of Usyk

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1777428051938210132

Not that much, and there are another video of him hurting his sparring partner with a quick over hand left. We will probably see a video of Fury then next trying to trash talk Usyk with those videos that he released.

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The odds seem interesting in that if the fight occurred a couple of years ago, they would have favoured Fury with a larger margin. Now it seems Usyk is making it (almost) even.

Boxing fans seem to have waited a very long time for any heavyweight unification fight and this one had long negotiations over a couple of years before they were supposed to meet. After that, Fury suffered a cut above his eye in training therefore the original date was postponed. Now, the fight does not seem to get anybody excited.

If the media were to get behind this fight and start promoting it by talking about it more, I think the anticipation and excitement level will increase but this simply is not happening.

Quote from: Baofeng on April 06, 2024, 03:55:40 PM

I do agree, really puzzle me as well as why there are noise on this fight? We've seen more of Mike Tyson being interviewed by media about his fight with Jake Paul?

Or they are doing what they have done with the AJ vs Ngannou fight wherein it was also silent until the last minute, then suddenly they have a lot of promotions even creating this so called online games?

And base on the odds, almost 50/50, Usyk 1.89/Fury 1.85.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 06, 2024, 07:46:35 AM

The fight is taking place next month and once things has been almost constant from when the contracts were signed, the promotion is exceptionally muted. I cannot recall any important heavyweight boxing clash ever receiving less news and promotion. When you consider this is the first heavyweight unification fight since 1999, the silence is baffling.

I do agree, really puzzle me as well as why there are noise on this fight? We've seen more of Mike Tyson being interviewed by media about his fight with Jake Paul?

Or they are doing what they have done with the AJ vs Ngannou fight wherein it was also silent until the last minute, then suddenly they have a lot of promotions even creating this so called online games?

And base on the odds, almost 50/50, Usyk 1.89/Fury 1.85.

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The fight is taking place next month and one thing has been almost constant from when the contracts were signed, the promotion is exceptionally muted. I cannot recall any important heavyweight boxing clash ever receiving less news and promotion. When you consider this is the first heavyweight unification fight since 1999, the silence is baffling.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 31, 2024, 12:12:54 AM

2 title fights in the undercard. Not bad. Hoping for Briedis to get back his old belt but it's a mission nearly impossible since he is inactive and is also nearing in his 40s. Beterbiev, if he becomes undisputed with a clear win over Bivol should move up and face the winner.

I wonder if there are also odds for Fury to make another excuses to cancel or delay this fight. Cheesy

Anyways, he gets what he wants. He has a lot of time to train while trimming down in weight to become faster. But I am not counting out yet on Fury making another drama to get out of this unification if he performs bad in sparring sessions.

Not sure Fury wanted to make another excuses mate, I mean if he did then more than the belt itself, his will lose the respect of the biggest boxer broker right now which is HE Turki Alalshikh. And he might not get a chance to step on Saudi if he will do that.

So for me this is a go already and Fury even if he gets injured or what, should proceed.

I would also agree that the undercard is pretty lame, but I guess this fighter is willing to go to Saudi now and make their bones.

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2 title fights in the undercard. Not bad. Hoping for Briedis to get back his old belt but it's a mission nearly impossible since he is inactive and is also nearing in his 40s. Beterbiev, if he becomes undisputed with a clear win over Bivol should move up and face the winner.

I wonder if there are also odds for Fury to make another excuses to cancel or delay this fight. Cheesy

Anyways, he gets what he wants. He has a lot of time to train while trimming down in weight to become faster. But I am not counting out yet on Fury making another drama to get out of this unification if he performs bad in sparring sessions.

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I think you are being extremely generous if you are using the word lacklustre, I can think of several more apt words to describe it. This is the first heavyweight unification fight since 1999, it clearly deserved bigger names on the undercard.

To be more direct, you would have imagined they would have at the very least added a blockbuster undercard. How many people in the arena will fall asleep while waiting for the main event? Grin

Quote from: hilariousetc on March 30, 2024, 05:15:24 AM

The undercard was announced at least: Pretty lacklustre for a fight of this magnitude. I thought they would have gone all out with it being a historic event, but they probably blew their beans with the recent Saudi cards.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 28, 2024, 10:12:06 AM

Stake had it 1.85 for Fury and 1.89 for Usyk. Yeah, it could be both fighters are going to be very careful in the beginning unless Fury started hot like in the Wilder fight and really wanted to stomped his class against Usyk.

But Usyk is also very technical so it's hard for Fury to used that tactics as Usyk knows that, so no clinching for him and he wants the fight to be in the middle. I also haven't hears anything yet, it will be April next week so most likely they are working hard in the gym for now.

Incredibly, the quotes came to almost 50/50. Initially, everyone considered Fury the big favorite and the quotes were accordingly. I don’t even know if it’s worth betting on Usik now since the odds are no longer so good, but on the other hand, almost always when I saw such strong changes in quotes, the one in whose favor they changed won.

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The undercard was announced at least:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5G1HAbLcdQ/

   Jai Opetaia vs. Mairis Briedis
   Joe Cordins vs. Anthony Cacace
   Frank Sanchez and Agit Kabayel
   Mark Chamberlain vs. Joshua Oluwaseun
   Sergey Kovalev vs. Robin Sirwan
   Isaac Lowe vs. Hasibullah
   Ahmadi David Nyika vs. Michael Seitz
   Moses Itauma vs. Ilja Mazencev

Pretty lacklustre for a fight of this magnitude. I thought they would have gone all out with it being a historic event, but they probably blew their beans with the recent Saudi cards.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on March 28, 2024, 09:53:42 AM

It's a 50/50 fight for me. I either think Fury will get a KO or Usyk will win on points, but I've got a feeling it could be a boring match it both fighters are just trying to win it on points, especially as they will both know there's a two-sided rematch clause so either fighter can just learn from their mistakes from the first match.

Sometimes the fights that are supposed to be blockbusters end up being the complete opposite. If they both fight to cautious extremes it could end up being a boring fight but I guess we will have to wait for it to take place before coming to any conclusion. It is after all the first heavyweight unification fight since 1999.

Quote from: hilariousetc on March 28, 2024, 09:53:42 AM

I wonder when they're gonna start ramping up the promo for this because it's become quiet again. No press conferences or undercard announced yet. Both fighters have also been silent on the promo.

Lack of hype and promotion really does not help but that is secondary to the fact an historic moment is about to happen.

Quote from: Baofeng on March 28, 2024, 10:12:06 AM

Stake had it 1.85 for Fury and 1.89 for Usyk.

In all honesty, the fight really is far too close to call. On the day and any given day, either of these two boxers can tip the balance in their favour and win.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on March 28, 2024, 09:53:42 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on March 16, 2024, 11:48:51 AM

It seems widely accepted by fans and pundits that it will be a close fight. In testament to Fury, he did brilliantly against Wilder in all three fights but it seems it might have taken a lot out of him in terms of motivation. After that trilogy he seemed to have fallen in to a flat period where he was unable to have momentum on his side. Yes he won the subsequent fights but how many of those victories had the authority of a champion?

It's a 50/50 fight for me. I either think Fury will get a KO or Usyk will win on points, but I've got a feeling it could be a boring match it both fighters are just trying to win it on points, especially as they will both know there's a two-sided rematch clause so either fighter can just learn from their mistakes from the first match. The only thing that could spice it up is Tyson could probably play dirty if Uysk is clearly beating him, which is certainly a possibility. Expect some low blows and elbows. Skybet currently have Fury as the slight favourite at 1.83 to Usyk's 2.00.

I wonder when they're gonna start ramping up the promo for this because it's become quiet again. No press conferences or undercard announced yet. Both fighters have also been silent on the promo.

Stake had it 1.85 for Fury and 1.89 for Usyk. Yeah, it could be both fighters are going to be very careful in the beginning unless Fury started hot like in the Wilder fight and really wanted to stomped his class against Usyk.

But Usyk is also very technical so it's hard for Fury to used that tactics as Usyk knows that, so no clinching for him and he wants the fight to be in the middle. I also haven't hears anything yet, it will be April next week so most likely they are working hard in the gym for now.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 16, 2024, 11:48:51 AM

It seems widely accepted by fans and pundits that it will be a close fight. In testament to Fury, he did brilliantly against Wilder in all three fights but it seems it might have taken a lot out of him in terms of motivation. After that trilogy he seemed to have fallen in to a flat period where he was unable to have momentum on his side. Yes he won the subsequent fights but how many of those victories had the authority of a champion?

It's a 50/50 fight for me. I either think Fury will get a KO or Usyk will win on points, but I've got a feeling it could be a boring match it both fighters are just trying to win it on points, especially as they will both know there's a two-sided rematch clause so either fighter can just learn from their mistakes from the first match. The only thing that could spice it up is Tyson could probably play dirty if Uysk is clearly beating him, which is certainly a possibility. Expect some low blows and elbows. Skybet currently have Fury as the slight favourite at 1.83 to Usyk's 2.00.

I wonder when they're gonna start ramping up the promo for this because it's become quiet again. No press conferences or undercard announced yet. Both fighters have also been silent on the promo.

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I had not thought about this possibility as an outcome for when Fury and Usyk eventually get in the ring on 18th May 2024 (to have the heavyweight unification title fight that most boxing fans want to see) but Ricky Hatton suggested the could be over in a stoppage win for Usyk if the wound over the eye opens up during their clash. There is no suggestion Usyk will deliberately try to target that wound but it should have healed by that stage to the point it should not re-open easily.

Keeping that aside, footage of Fury training for the fight has gone viral as fans think Usyk will be in trouble when they meet in the ring because Fury seems to be in peak condition and fully focused on winning.

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It seems widely accepted by fans and pundits that it will be a close fight. In testament to Fury, he did brilliantly against Wilder in all three fights but it seems it might have taken a lot out of him in terms of motivation. After that trilogy he seemed to have fallen in to a flat period where he was unable to have momentum on his side. Yes he won the subsequent fights but how many of those victories had the authority of a champion?

Quote from: TravelMug on March 15, 2024, 09:48:27 PM

Yeah, probably after that performance of Tyson Fury against Ngannou, Usyk could have been more motivated than ever and see in his mind that he can beat Fury. And this could also be what the boxing community sees as well, that's why we shouldn't be surprised as the fight gets closer, Usyk could be the slight favorite as he is now inching closer with just couple of odds separating them. But so far our boxing fans here still has Fury as majority favorite.

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Quote from: JollyGood on March 15, 2024, 06:26:10 PM

The poll in this thread stands at 15 votes:

Fury win = 10
Usyk win = 5
Draw = 0

I think over time it will tilt more towards Usyk therefore will almost level out but Fury will just edge it and remain favourite. After the way Ngannou shocked him, Fury must be thinking seriously about how to make sure Usyk does not get a good start in the fight.

As for Usyk, his confidence must be high after he saw Fury knocked down by Ngannou but even he knows it will take an extremely special performance to beat Fury.

Yeah, probably after that performance of Tyson Fury against Ngannou, Usyk could have been more motivated than ever and see in his mind that he can beat Fury. And this could also be what the boxing community sees as well, that's why we shouldn't be surprised as the fight gets closer, Usyk could be the slight favorite as he is now inching closer with just couple of odds separating them. But so far our boxing fans here still has Fury as majority favorite.

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The poll in this thread stands at 15 votes:

Fury win = 10
Usyk win = 5
Draw = 0

I think over time it will tilt more towards Usyk therefore will almost level out but Fury will just edge it and remain favourite. After the way Ngannou shocked him, Fury must be thinking seriously about how to make sure Usyk does not get a good start in the fight.

As for Usyk, his confidence must be high after he saw Fury knocked down by Ngannou but even he knows it will take an extremely special performance to beat Fury.

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