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I wrote before that Fury is a cowardly trash, so I’m not at all surprised by this news. On the contrary, I would be surprised if the fight took place.
If someone considers me biased, then for example Alexander Gvozdik also expressed doubts about this whole story (even if diplomatically, but as they say, everyone understands everything).

So you're using a biased source to confirm your own bias? Oleksandr Gvozdyk is Usyk's close friend for many years so of course he is going to cast doubt on Fury.

I think given the evidence presented recently we can see the injury is genuine and probably just a freak sparring accident. Had Fury just hidden away for weeks/months I would have assumed some shenanigans and thought it was a faked/feigned injury done to either stall or get out of the fight. I think Fury does want this fight even if he knows he's going to struggle or it being his biggest test. The money is just too good to turn down. Gareth A Davis has a saying for why fights do or don't happen: Money, ego, timing and he's right, but money is the biggest factor. Many fighters will avoid fights if they think they will lose or struggle but every fighter also has a price. Would I get in the ring with Fury or Usyk for a few grand? Nope. Would I do it for millions? Of course.
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I wrote before that Fury is a cowardly trash, so I’m not at all surprised by this news. On the contrary, I would be surprised if the fight took place.
If someone considers me biased, then for example Alexander Gvozdik also expressed doubts about this whole story (even if diplomatically, but as they say, everyone understands everything).

So you're using a biased source to confirm your own bias? Oleksandr Gvozdyk is Usyk's close friend for many years so of course he is going to cast doubt on Fury.

In general, I am of course very surprised by this situation (in a global sense, since, in principle, I have lost interest in this clownery) because Fury is the obvious favorite, but he is simply afraid. I don't remember such a case in boxing or other sports. Avoiding a stronger opponent is reasonable and rational (albeit mean), but avoiding a (supposedly) weaker opponent is... I don’t know how to describe it.

Rejecting an unreasonable purse split when you are clearly the bigger draw isn't avoiding someone, it's common business sense. If Jake Paul agreed to fight Canelo only if he got a 50/50 split, then logically Canelo would reject that deal. Having to postpone a fight because of a harder than expected fight against a knockout artist is also not cowardly or chickening out, unless you're implying Fury intentionally allowed the record holder for most powerful punch to hit him, which would be an idiotic theory.

Freak accidents happen all the time. Errol Spence was in a horrific car accident, suffered a torn retina, was in another car accident and there are people stupid enough to say he had these incidents, some which were life threatening, because he was afraid of fighting Terence Crawford.
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The Saudi's just wanted this fight to happen, simply as that, and it's good that they have this clause, so that in this case Fury will have not any reasons to stall it again. And definitely, everything will be on the line specially for Fury, but he should really come to the fight and box.

And it seems that Fury has no more reasons or excuses to not fight. If he had this another freak accident, like "I broke my elbow during during the sparring", or "my cut is not yet healed 100%", then for us boxing fans, we can't deny that he chicken out and doesn't want to fight Usyk.

Nope. It doesn't work that way. Just re-read the previous threads and this one. Even if Fury chickens out 99 times and avoids fighting under different (or identical) pretexts, someone will always say “well, if he chickens out for the 100th time then I’ll recognize him as a coward, but for now we have to wait.”

In general, I am of course very surprised by this situation (in a global sense, since, in principle, I have lost interest in this clownery) because Fury is the obvious favorite, but he is simply afraid. I don't remember such a case in boxing or other sports. Avoiding a stronger opponent is reasonable and rational (albeit mean), but avoiding a (supposedly) weaker opponent is... I don’t know how to describe it.
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The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

So if either fighter pulls out of the fight they would be on the hook for $10 million. That is very interesting. I wonder about the logistics of this agreement. Do they actually have $20 million in escrow, $10 million from each, or is it just a contract they signed saying they will pay that amount if they don't go through with it? I just hope there are no more obstacles and we get an undisputed heavyweight champion once and for all.
I don’t know if any of them have such funds since the amount is not small, but it will be a good incentive for every athlete to come to the fight and box.
If this is not done, boxers may lose the support of their fans and earn a reputation as a person who is not responsible for their words and actions, which will also negatively affect their future career.

The Saudi's just wanted this fight to happen, simply as that, and it's good that they have this clause, so that in this case Fury will have not any reasons to stall it again. And definitely, everything will be on the line specially for Fury, but he should really come to the fight and box.

And it seems that Fury has no more reasons or excuses to not fight. If he had this another freak accident, like "I broke my elbow during during the sparring", or "my cut is not yet healed 100%", then for us boxing fans, we can't deny that he chicken out and doesn't want to fight Usyk.
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The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

So if either fighter pulls out of the fight they would be on the hook for $10 million. That is very interesting. I wonder about the logistics of this agreement. Do they actually have $20 million in escrow, $10 million from each, or is it just a contract they signed saying they will pay that amount if they don't go through with it? I just hope there are no more obstacles and we get an undisputed heavyweight champion once and for all.

I dunno but I'm sure Turki is good for it  Grin. I think it's money he's put up to give to either party should one of them pull out. I guess it's only half given it's unlikely both fighters pull out at the same time.

Lets hope that nothing interferes them from having a fight in May (should be change topic name? huh?). Otherwise someone can be called chicken if the fights gets canceled or postponed again.

Should we get back to this topic the closer fight date is or continue to speculate? Cheesy Do you think that cut was accidental or made on purpose? Its weeks before fight, why not wear headgear? Can such cut really make so much influence on performance? Shouldnt it heal just partly till Feb 17? Fighters with such cuts continue fighting, while Fury has 2 weeks and millions to spend on doctors.

If Fury comes up with some other excuse to not fight in May you can assume he's just chickened out. I would find it hard to believe even Fury can walk away from the amount of money being offered here even if he thinks he's likely to lose. Had Fury hid away and not shown the injury I would have assumed he was pulling some shenanigans but at least we know there is a genuine injury. I think he's an idiot for doing heavy sparring two weeks away from the biggest fight of his career.
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The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

So if either fighter pulls out of the fight they would be on the hook for $10 million. That is very interesting. I wonder about the logistics of this agreement. Do they actually have $20 million in escrow, $10 million from each, or is it just a contract they signed saying they will pay that amount if they don't go through with it? I just hope there are no more obstacles and we get an undisputed heavyweight champion once and for all.
I don’t know if any of them have such funds since the amount is not small, but it will be a good incentive for every athlete to come to the fight and box.
If this is not done, boxers may lose the support of their fans and earn a reputation as a person who is not responsible for their words and actions, which will also negatively affect their future career.
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Lets hope that nothing interferes them from having a fight in May (should be change topic name? huh?). Otherwise someone can be called chicken if the fights gets canceled or postponed again.

Should we get back to this topic the closer fight date is or continue to speculate? Cheesy Do you think that cut was accidental or made on purpose? Its weeks before fight, why not wear headgear? Can such cut really make so much influence on performance? Shouldnt it heal just partly till Feb 17? Fighters with such cuts continue fighting, while Fury has 2 weeks and millions to spend on doctors.

I wrote before that Fury is a cowardly trash, so I’m not at all surprised by this news. On the contrary, I would be surprised if the fight took place.
If someone considers me biased, then for example Alexander Gvozdik also expressed doubts about this whole story (even if diplomatically, but as they say, everyone understands everything).
Stupid Arabians think that a fine of 10 million will stop the gypsy chicken from his habits  Grin
He would rather get high on cocaine and nandrolone again and sue them for having mental problems because of them  Grin
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Lets hope that nothing interferes them from having a fight in May (should be change topic name? huh?). Otherwise someone can be called chicken if the fights gets canceled or postponed again.

Should we get back to this topic the closer fight date is or continue to speculate? Cheesy Do you think that cut was accidental or made on purpose? Its weeks before fight, why not wear headgear? Can such cut really make so much influence on performance? Shouldnt it heal just partly till Feb 17? Fighters with such cuts continue fighting, while Fury has 2 weeks and millions to spend on doctors.
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The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

So if either fighter pulls out of the fight they would be on the hook for $10 million. That is very interesting. I wonder about the logistics of this agreement. Do they actually have $20 million in escrow, $10 million from each, or is it just a contract they signed saying they will pay that amount if they don't go through with it? I just hope there are no more obstacles and we get an undisputed heavyweight champion once and for all.
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Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.
The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

It really depends though, most of the time, their trainers knows how many weeks they will have to go to be on their peak. In this case, for Usyk, he has to reset everything again, as his trainer doesn't want to have him overtrain.

Yes, it was good that they will have to cancel and move it to another date and not get any replacement opponent for Usyk.

So in any case, everything is on the shoulder of Fury to fulfill all the agreed upon, $10 million is huge for him if he still can't fight on May 18 and most likely the Saudi's are not going to allow him to fight anymore as His Highness, Turki Alalshikh will be done on Fury's antics.
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Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.
The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.


On with the show then. Too disappointing to just cancel the event and there is too much work in refunding. It's best to just move the schedule. In 2 months I guess that wound will heal thoroughly.  Fury's body is better too than when he fought Ngannou so they are taking this fight seriously.

$10M is more than enough for those undercards. They can't get that if the fight is held on the other soil. The cut turns out to be a blessing for all fighters.



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Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.
The fight was postponed to May 18 and now it will definitely take place.
 Direct speech from the organizer: “The last attempt is when we can hold this fight, and I have set the date - May 18. I have guarantees from both boxers - 10 million [dollars], if anyone - then he refuses the fight [his opponent will receive]. 10 million is not from us, we guarantee it - 10 million from their personal funds."
In this case, the fight will be more interesting since the athletes will have more time to prepare, and the public will be more interested in watching since the event will be final and there should be no more postponements.

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Turki, Tyson & Usyk were all just on Ariel's show. Tyson does have the cut so we at least now know it's not fake or an old injury.

I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?

They've just pushed it back a few months. Looks like there will be no boxing on that day now. There were rumours they were tyring to get usyk another opponent but it's probably best to not risk him losing or getting injured and further delaying it.
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There is no doubt about it, that was a nasty cut. After reviewing the video several times it does show Fury took a hit from the elbow of the sparring partner and it was unfortunate his headgear was probably just a fraction elevated at the time of impact. Fury and Usyk still have a two fight contract but there is always a danger their deal/contract could be put aside if Usyk (however unlikely) manages to lose his fight if he fights on 17th February.

18th May 2024 is the new date for the Fury vs Usyk unification fight

Whether it was caused by an elbow hit or head butt, it was a nasty one. Just unfortunate news for us boxing lovers who have waited for this fight to happen for months but suddenly got postponed. They should be careful enough for this kind of incident to not happen again because they have a contract to fulfill.
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Give Usyk Dubois. That would be a very good fight that would put an end to their previous low blow or not situation. But I think Usyk wont accept that. He has prepared for Fury (did he really? Or they all knew that there wont be a fight), Dubois is different and wont “cost” that much to fight him.
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I knew, I knew that something is going to happen to make this fight not to happen. I had a feeling that it will be from Fury side. By the intense in the media (lack if it), by the weak promotion, by the lack of overall information, it was clear that nothing good is going to happen on Feb 17. They had so much negotiations about the fight before, they quickly made agreement to fighr on Feb 17, it was clear that something fishy is about to happen.

Yep, we don't know, we had this feeling that this fight is not going to happen as there was no promotion up to the last minute. Sometimes there are those fights that is not bound to happen. And it any case, the Saudi said that they are not going to have someone replace Fury, or at least that's how I interpret it because the statement says that they are going to refund the ticket.

Sorry for fight fans, we need to wait for Fury to heal that huge cut in his eye and then they will go on training and promotion again. Hopefully, if there is a second time, everything will be smooth and those negative emotions removed from Fury.

The gut feeling seem right after all. I wouldn't say Fury intentionally did harm himself but something just won't happen. They have been plaanning such bout for a long time and then this happen. People are dying to see a fight like this one and if they refund the fans for thier tickets I guess they just won't give this fight another schedule.

This Hrgovic look ferocious, I don't know why this guy earn his title fight but if the Saudi allow it then its on still.

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I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?
very good question, I also thought about this, most likely it is written in the contract and for every day of non-compliance there will be a penalty like a fine. It is very unfortunate that this happened, this is the second postponement of the fight and now it will take place at best by the summer if not later. There is already news in the news about a new opponent for Usyk, but few people will be interested in this since expectations will not be justified. I think a week or two and we will hear new dates and conditions of the fight.
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I am also curious what is going to happen to all event in general. If the main event is cancelled, will the other fight also be canceled? If yes, then Fury has set up a lot of other fighters, who had several weeks camp, perhaps cut weight or planned to do that, as minimum spent money on preparation. What is going on in such cases? Does anyone knows what happens in this case? Do fighters get something as cashback? Are such things stated in their contracts?
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I knew, I knew that something is going to happen to make this fight not to happen. I had a feeling that it will be from Fury side. By the intense in the media (lack if it), by the weak promotion, by the lack of overall information, it was clear that nothing good is going to happen on Feb 17. They had so much negotiations about the fight before, they quickly made agreement to fighr on Feb 17, it was clear that something fishy is about to happen.

Yep, we don't know, we had this feeling that this fight is not going to happen as there was no promotion up to the last minute. Sometimes there are those fights that is not bound to happen. And it any case, the Saudi said that they are not going to have someone replace Fury, or at least that's how I interpret it because the statement says that they are going to refund the ticket.

Sorry for fight fans, we need to wait for Fury to heal that huge cut in his eye and then they will go on training and promotion again. Hopefully, if there is a second time, everything will be smooth and those negative emotions removed from Fury.
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I knew, I knew that something is going to happen to make this fight not to happen. I had a feeling that it will be from Fury side. By the intense in the media (lack if it), by the weak promotion, by the lack of overall information, it was clear that nothing good is going to happen on Feb 17. They had so much negotiations about the fight before, they quickly made agreement to fighr on Feb 17, it was clear that something fishy is about to happen.
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