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Quote from: Daltonik on August 25, 2022, 12:56:33 PM

Fury changes his mind several times a day, so I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he agrees to fight for at least $1 billion, and a day later he says that he will fight for free and will send the entire fee to help Ukraine, although it would be a great humanitarian act on his part.

I hope when he changes his mind to fight free, a promoter will sign him right away, but the way he partying and spending his money like what Mayweather is doing he will need to keep it up, so he will eventually agree to fight Usyk, he just wants an upper hand in the negotiation, he knows that people are going to ask for a match up for the unification of the title and for the undisputed and greatest boxer of all time, so he wants to be in a good side of the bargain by telling right away what his price will be and giving it a deadline, he is a good businessman too and he knows his value.

He will definitely have the upper hand in negotiations, after all he will be the A-side in this fight with Usyk. I really don't know how he spend his money, but I'm hinting that at least he have some good investments as we alll know that sooner or later he will have to retire. And maybe he has financial advisors at his side.

Nevertheless, his asking money might be a boxing record for his prize fight, the guaranteed money alone, and then we still have the PPV numbers. Usyk is really an elite boxer no doubt about it, but I will still favor Fury.

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 25, 2022, 12:56:33 PM

Fury changes his mind several times a day, so I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he agrees to fight for at least $1 billion, and a day later he says that he will fight for free and will send the entire fee to help Ukraine, although it would be a great humanitarian act on his part.

I hope when he changes his mind to fight free, a promoter will sign him right away, but the way he partying and spending his money like what Mayweather is doing he will need to keep it up, so he will eventually agree to fight Usyk, he just wants an upper hand in the negotiation, he knows that people are going to ask for a match up for the unification of the title and for the undisputed and greatest boxer of all time, so he wants to be in a good side of the bargain by telling right away what his price will be and giving it a deadline, he is a good businessman too and he knows his value.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on August 25, 2022, 01:21:56 PM

Quote from: Daltonik on August 25, 2022, 12:56:33 PM

Fury changes his mind several times a day, so I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he agrees to fight for at least $1 billion, and a day later he says that he will fight for free and will send the entire fee to help Ukraine, although it would be a great humanitarian act on his part.

I don't think that Fury often changes his mind - all these words and loud statements are a reminder of himself and marketing. As far as the fight fee he wants, it's obvious that no one is going to pay that amount. Therefore, this is either another "scandalous" statement to attract attention, or an attempt to get more money out of the organizers, or an attempt to leave without accusations of cowardice (maybe he is really afraid of Usyk and is ready to fight him only for very big money).

Fury had fought lots of tough opponents and some of them, I think are better than Usyk so I never think that Fury is afraid of Usyk, But yeah, that loud statement might be a marketing approach to make himself worth more and get the attention of more people.

Quote from: abel1337 on August 25, 2022, 01:44:01 PM

Definitely I'll go with Fury as most of us did according to the poll. I Just watched the Usyk vs Joshua fight and I think Joshua can possibly win that fight if he had that that stamina that can make him keep up with Usyk. Fury is on an advantage in giving knock outs and I think it's possible that when they fight, we can see a knock out. Though Fury is at advantage at knock out, Usyk can possibly do the same as he is good at timing and has a good brain in boxing.

Well, Fury is the favorite because of his previous fight performance, plus he has the statistical advantage over Usyk but we know an upset win happens.

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Definitely I'll go with Fury as most of us did according to the poll. I Just watched the Usyk vs Joshua fight and I think Joshua can possibly win that fight if he had that that stamina that can make him keep up with Usyk. Fury is on an advantage in giving knock outs and I think it's possible that when they fight, we can see a knock out. Though Fury is at advantage at knock out, Usyk can possibly do the same as he is good at timing and has a good brain in boxing.

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 25, 2022, 12:56:33 PM

Fury changes his mind several times a day, so I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he agrees to fight for at least $1 billion, and a day later he says that he will fight for free and will send the entire fee to help Ukraine, although it would be a great humanitarian act on his part.

I don't think that Fury often changes his mind - all these words and loud statements are a reminder of himself and marketing. As far as the fight fee he wants, it's obvious that no one is going to pay that amount. Therefore, this is either another "scandalous" statement to attract attention, or an attempt to get more money out of the organizers, or an attempt to leave without accusations of cowardice (maybe he is really afraid of Usyk and is ready to fight him only for very big money).

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Quote from: Daltonik on August 25, 2022, 12:56:33 PM

Fury changes his mind several times a day, so I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he agrees to fight for at least $1 billion, and a day later he says that he will fight for free and will send the entire fee to help Ukraine, although it would be a great humanitarian act on his part.

It will indeed be a humanitarian task. If they do it . But I'm not entirely optimistic about it. Because they sometimes change their decision. But if they really do, it will be a great find for Ukraine. And they will greatly benefit from it

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Fury changes his mind several times a day, so I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow he agrees to fight for at least $1 billion, and a day later he says that he will fight for free and will send the entire fee to help Ukraine, although it would be a great humanitarian act on his part.

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Quote from: robelneo on August 25, 2022, 06:41:54 AM

Quote from: Welsh on August 25, 2022, 05:30:27 AM

I'm just hoping it gets made, and doesn't get cancelled like the Joshua vs Fury fight. Obviously, that was due to the Wilder fight, but I seriously don't trust boxing to make the fights that need to happen, actually happen.

Boxing is in a sorry state, because of promoters' decision to get their fighters to fight in the house which means they can only fight fighters that are in their contracts they cannot fight other fighters that are on other promotions, like the Bivol - Beterbiev, the Joshua- Fury, and the Spence - Crawford, they want to keep their cash cow and their goose that lays a golden egg, in the case of Fury, he wants to have more because he is still hot and Usyk is hot and the boxing community always want to settle who is the real champion, this is a hard match to make when boxers are asking for heaven and promoters wants a huge slice of profit, but we'll see in the coming days, Fury has given the deadline.

It will take months to years before this will be finalized. The moment promoters give in to what Fury is asking, Usyk will also realize that promoters are dying to see them in the ring so why shouln't he demand more as well?

I remember Pacquiao vs Mayweather took years because of the negotiation and all that Floyd do is keep the trashtalks to keep the hype.

Will Usyk accept half of what Tyson is asking I don't think so he has four titles and he is staking all four titles so if ever the combined price of these two fighters could go up to 800 million pounds plus the undercard rate this will be the highest paying boxing events but is it worth it, will promoters make it happen, promoters will have to calculate the risk and the profit if it's really worth it, sometimes its greediness is what deprives the boxing community of great fights, we really missed the 70's, 80's and 90's boxers they go for legacy not just for money.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 25, 2022, 05:30:27 AM

I'm just hoping it gets made, and doesn't get cancelled like the Joshua vs Fury fight. Obviously, that was due to the Wilder fight, but I seriously don't trust boxing to make the fights that need to happen, actually happen.

Boxing is in a sorry state, because of promoters' decision to get their fighters to fight in the house which means they can only fight fighters that are in their contracts they cannot fight other fighters that are on other promotions, like the Bivol - Beterbiev, the Joshua- Fury, and the Spence - Crawford, they want to keep their cash cow and their goose that lays a golden egg, in the case of Fury, he wants to have more because he is still hot and Usyk is hot and the boxing community always want to settle who is the real champion, this is a hard match to make when boxers are asking for heaven and promoters wants a huge slice of profit, but we'll see in the coming days, Fury has given the deadline.

It will take months to years before this will be finalized. The moment promoters give in to what Fury is asking, Usyk will also realize that promoters are dying to see them in the ring so why shouln't he demand more as well?

I remember Pacquiao vs Mayweather took years because of the negotiation and all that Floyd do is keep the trashtalks to keep the hype.

Many fans and supporters are looking forward to their match. This could be one of the best matches this year. Fury obviously has a better experience and record than Usyk so I guess he'll be the favorable one here since he has more supporters. It will be a challenge for Usyk but an opportunity at the same time because he is able to make a good noise on the boxing ring.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 25, 2022, 05:30:27 AM

I'm just hoping it gets made, and doesn't get cancelled like the Joshua vs Fury fight. Obviously, that was due to the Wilder fight, but I seriously don't trust boxing to make the fights that need to happen, actually happen.

Boxing is in a sorry state, because of promoters' decision to get their fighters to fight in the house which means they can only fight fighters that are in their contracts they cannot fight other fighters that are on other promotions, like the Bivol - Beterbiev, the Joshua- Fury, and the Spence - Crawford, they want to keep their cash cow and their goose that lays a golden egg, in the case of Fury, he wants to have more because he is still hot and Usyk is hot and the boxing community always want to settle who is the real champion, this is a hard match to make when boxers are asking for heaven and promoters wants a huge slice of profit, but we'll see in the coming days, Fury has given the deadline.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 25, 2022, 06:15:40 AM

That is the other thing, if everyone involved is not going to get the money they want, the fight might not actually happen and starts to point at each other as the reasons for the fight not being made.

Which is usually what happens with these types of fights. It's partly the reason I've actually lost interest in boxing as a whole. I only tune in for the heavyweight fights now, and usually Joshua, or Fury fights, despite not being a fan of Joshua I do like to route against him quite a bit Tongue

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In the UFC you have big fights all the time, but I think boxing are too concerned with building up their fighters with a zero on their record, that they end up doing that at the end of their careers too. In the UFC people expect you to lose at some point.

Obviously, Joshua has lost so that doesn't apply, but it's the other issue of actually getting an answer to a question which has been asked for the last few years, which is who's the best of this era, Joshua or Fury. Obviously, Usyk has since entered that equation. Although, Usyk certainly didn't look unbeatable the other night.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 25, 2022, 05:30:27 AM

Fury is the favourite for a knockout, and the decision win in my book. I think he'll do it in style though. Usyk was hurt multiple times by Joshua, and I think Fury can put more pressure on Usyk, and use his size advantage to tire out Usyk, and prevent him from moving so much, something that Joshua didn't implement into his game plan.

I definitely can't see Usyk knocking out Fury, but crazier things have happened I suppose. I do feel he'll struggle a little more with the height difference though, and Fury is the type of fighter to lean on you like I previously mentioned.

Yes, that's what I also said before, the height and reach advantage might be too much for Usyk to overcome and he will struggle if Fury will used his weight against Usyk throughout the fight and take that energy from him. The same game plan he had against Wilder, whenever Deontay was cornered, Fury will put all the weight on Wilder until it's too much and he is softened already and ready to be taken out.

Quote from: Welsh on August 25, 2022, 05:30:27 AM

I'm just hoping it gets made, and doesn't get cancelled like the Joshua vs Fury fight. Obviously, that was due to the Wilder fight, but I seriously don't trust boxing to make the fights that need to happen, actually happen.

That is the other thing, if everyone involved is not going to get the money they want, the fight might not actually happen and starts to point at each other as the reasons for the fight not being made.

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Fury is the favourite for a knockout, and the decision win in my book. I think he'll do it in style though. Usyk was hurt multiple times by Joshua, and I think Fury can put more pressure on Usyk, and use his size advantage to tire out Usyk, and prevent him from moving so much, something that Joshua didn't implement into his game plan.

I definitely can't see Usyk knocking out Fury, but crazier things have happened I suppose. I do feel he'll struggle a little more with the height difference though, and Fury is the type of fighter to lean on you like I previously mentioned.

I'm just hoping it gets made, and doesn't get cancelled like the Joshua vs Fury fight. Obviously, that was due to the Wilder fight, but I seriously don't trust boxing to make the fights that need to happen, actually happen.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 24, 2022, 08:29:29 PM

Quote from: aioc on August 24, 2022, 06:31:44 PM

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

Fury is still young to retire at age 34, there are lots of fights he can do and earn more money, but I think this action of Fury is certain that he really wanted that match finalized and wanted to secure the fund to avoid unnecessary process/wait after the fight.

With regards to the fight, it looks like this one will be a tough fight for USYK since statistics all point to FURY having an advantage. That 7 inches reach advantage of Fury will be the deciding factor in this fight if Usyk fails to come up with a counter strategy since Fury really knows how to capitalize on this reach advantage. Besides fury had stopped his last four opponents while Usyk has 3 of his last 4 fights ended in a decision.

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Quote from: aioc on August 24, 2022, 06:31:44 PM

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

Yeah, an ultimatum, but you know what, Fury is really good at it, let's say the 500 million pounds is not met, what will happen? obviously there could be negotiations and maybe the price could be lower or terms could be other terms that could amount that kind of money for him.

So it's a good tactics for him, trying to let the public know much money he wanted and then weigh on how much money he can really get in the end, win-win situation.

Interested promoters can co-promote this fight but I doubt if Arum will agree to co-promote it with DAZN, he even calls DAZN, a dead zone in the past, and Saudi Arabia is another good venue to hold this fight there are rich people who can do this promotion but I doubt if they will bite 500 million pounds they will negotiate and convince Fury to lower his price, but how about Usyk he should get a good price too he is holding four titles, WBA, IBF, IBO and ring magazine how come the guy holding one title will just the one demanding price, Usyk can also demand.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 24, 2022, 08:29:29 PM

Quote from: aioc on August 24, 2022, 06:31:44 PM

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

Yeah, an ultimatum, but you know what, Fury is really good at it, let's say the 500 million pounds is not met, what will happen? obviously there could be negotiations and maybe the price could be lower or terms could be other terms that could amount that kind of money for him.

So it's a good tactics for him, trying to let the public know much money he wanted and then weigh on how much money he can really get in the end, win-win situation.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 24, 2022, 08:29:29 PM

Quote from: aioc on August 24, 2022, 06:31:44 PM

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

Damn, that is huge money so not sure if they can afford that 500 million pounds. The only one that maybe can bring that money is the rich person somewhere in the Middle East - Saudi Arabia. The same venue that Usyk and Joshua fight. And if any case, I don't think that Arum can give that to Fury, although negotiations might be very smooth because as per Arum he is friends with Usyk manager or to that effect. So it is just the money that will be the 'problem'.

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Quote from: aioc on August 24, 2022, 06:31:44 PM

Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

its an ultimatum. he earns the right to demand after all he is the kind and this is going to be a very big event. such a huge amount though so what happens if the promoters couldn't show the money in 7 days?

promoters will also weight if the sales be enough now that economy is also in a downturn?
the fight will not happen in an instant anyway. if nothing pursues then its been a blast too.

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Fury is playing the money man he just gives a deadline for interested parties to put this fight until September 1 or he will just follow through on his retirement, he knows he is a hot item and the boxing community wants a unification bout and have one undisputed champion.

Tyson Fury gives September 1 deadline to secure undisputed unification with Oleksandr Usyk

He also wants proof of funds for this fight, for 500 million Pounds, I wonder who will be the promoter will come forward with that amount, so we'll wait until September 1 for any development.

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If usyk is really, as he himself says, ready to leave boxing after the fight with Fury, then I really hope that an exciting trilogy can come out of this, and no matter how things turn out, after that Usyk will really be able to say that he is leaving and it will be amazing with a good outcome.

Trilogy with AJ? Do you really think this is necessary? I think their recent fight showed everything. Specially with AJ saying "I dont know how you beat me". Honestly, I find it hard to believe Usyk vs Fury fight is going to happen. Fury has announced that he will fight only for a huge cheque. Usyk is not going to fall behind and would probably ask for a huge cheque also. In wont be a surprise, if their total reward will be 1 billion. 1 billion for a boxing fight. 1 billion is a an annual budget of some countries. Can promotors even afford that?

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