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Quote from: JollyGood on August 24, 2022, 07:27:09 AM

Fury said: It’s the biggest fight in the world so it needs to be the biggest pay day in the world. Mayweather got £400million to fight Pacquiao, I want £500m

Fury said: I know they have got the money. They’ve offered Tiger Woods $1billion

Fury said: I have no real interest in Usyk. Some man that nobody can really say his name. A pumped-up middleweight.

Fury said: It’s not my fault he’s gone and battered AJ, some bodybuilder. It’s not my fault that happened twice in a row.

Fury is playing hard to get, and while Usyk is very willing to fight Fury, Usyk has done what he cannot do because Fury is staying away from Joshua, whom Usyk beat twice in a row.

With so many up-and-coming heavyweight boxers people's interest will disappear, he should not ask for an outrageous amount and just unify the title then he can retire because he got all the belts, if he wants to stay retired, Usyk can eventually become the undisputed champion if he continues to fight, Fury may be great but its a big legacy if you are the undisputed title.

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The way Fury is controlling the narrative is making me laugh Grin

He is basically saying he wants to sign a deal to fight Usyk in a £500 million deal or he will stay retired. Here are some of his words of wisdom:

Fury said: It’s the biggest fight in the world so it needs to be the biggest pay day in the world. Mayweather got £400million to fight Pacquiao, I want £500m

Fury said: I know they have got the money. They’ve offered Tiger Woods $1billion

Fury said: I have no real interest in Usyk. Some man that nobody can really say his name. A pumped-up middleweight.

Fury said: It’s not my fault he’s gone and battered AJ, some bodybuilder. It’s not my fault that happened twice in a row.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 23, 2022, 08:15:20 AM

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers?

I bet that if you open the list of his fights, you will not find a single familiar name there except for Chisora and Cunningham.
Even Wilder said that Fury had no serious opponents other than Klitschko and himself.

You would better listen more a guy that has 0-2 against Fury Cheesy

If you say than Tyson Fury record was build by wins over no-name boxers, then I have a cool video for you - exposure of Mike Tyson. The idea of that video is that Mike Tyson was beating also no-name boxers. (video on Russian language, so those who are interested should turn on subs).

Quote from: KTChampions on August 23, 2022, 11:07:41 AM

By the way, do not forget that Fury's victory over Klitschko is a purely paper victory in court - initially the result of this fight was canceled due to the fact that Fury used doping (nandrolone).

If Fury has cheated, then why after the fight Wladimir congratulated him with that victory, meaning he accepted that loss. Anyway, I dont remember Wladimir shouting he was robbed and asked a lot for a rematch.

Anyway, if this fight really happens, I wish the better and stronger fighter to win that fight in clear and dominant way. But not with judge help.

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He knows he will not get anywhere near $500 million but he is pushing that agenda for the hype. It will be the richest fight in heavyweight boxing history with both fighters huge amounts from the purse. There will be a rematch clause inserted which means they will probably fight twice but on both counts I cannot see Usyk winning.

Quote from: aioc on August 23, 2022, 07:03:31 PM

There's a possibility that this fight will not push through Fury is demanding an outrageous amount of £500million and he even called Usyk

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Fury accepted Usyk's call out after he outpointed Anthony Joshua in their rematch but 'The Gypsy King' has insisted it will take £500million to get him out of retirement..

"The world's biggest fight has to be the world's biggest money. If I'm to put it all on the line vs some unknown foreigner. Boys better get that half billy, if not keep the little mug. If it was AJ it would have been free but it's not, only power in the waters."

Tyson Fury reiterates £500million demand for Oleksandr Usyk undisputed fight

If he will insist on this amount promoters will have a second thought if they will push through with the unification or he just wants to get much higher stakes when the negotiation starts rolling.

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There's a possibility that this fight will not push through Fury is demanding an outrageous amount of £500million and he even called Usyk

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Fury accepted Usyk's call out after he outpointed Anthony Joshua in their rematch but 'The Gypsy King' has insisted it will take £500million to get him out of retirement..

"The world's biggest fight has to be the world's biggest money. If I'm to put it all on the line vs some unknown foreigner. Boys better get that half billy, if not keep the little mug. If it was AJ it would have been free but it's not, only power in the waters."

Tyson Fury reiterates £500million demand for Oleksandr Usyk undisputed fight

If he will insist on this amount promoters will have a second thought if they will push through with the unification or he just wants to get much higher stakes when the negotiation starts rolling.

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Fury is not overrated, it would be a mistake to say that because (as you rightly stated) he has a great fight record. If Fury was fully fit in the first fight against Wilder he would have won by KO but Fury was easing his way back in to the ring.

Usyk is a brilliant fighter but even with all his technical skills he will not be able to beat Fury. The good thing for Usyk will be his share of the fight purse. At 35 this should be the final fight of his career if he loses against Fury. If he miraculously defeats Fury he should have a rematch and then retire. Either way Usyk should not be facing any other opponent before he retires.

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Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers? If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time Cheesy

He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 23, 2022, 10:14:08 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 23, 2022, 08:15:20 AM

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers?

I bet that if you open the list of his fights, you will not find a single familiar name there except for Chisora and Cunningham.
Even Wilder said that Fury had no serious opponents other than Klitschko and himself.

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 23, 2022, 10:14:08 AM

If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

funny contradiction.
By the way: Fury - Paikic, Fury knocked down in the 2nd round; Fury - Cunningham, Fury knocked down in the 2nd round Wink

By the way, do not forget that Fury's victory over Klitschko is a purely paper victory in court - initially the result of this fight was canceled due to the fact that Fury used doping (nandrolone).

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You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time Cheesy

He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated Cheesy

This looks like the truth. This paper champion seems to be patronized at the highest level, so I wouldn't be surprised by such a "win".

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Still Tyson Fury because his performance still didn’t change and he is literally on his prime even though he is already planning his retirement. He is the best in his division and there’s no doubt about that. Usyk didn’t manage to KO or beat AJ in majority or unanimous division which means they still have a close fight while Tyson Fury last 3 matches are both KO. The fight will be explosive if this heavyweight fight will happened. I believe this might be Fury last match if he takedown Usyk on this match because he has nothing to prove already.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 23, 2022, 10:14:08 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 23, 2022, 08:15:20 AM

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers? If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time Cheesy

He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated Cheesy

Fury has been undefeated and been consistent with his record. I guess Usyk only wants a huge challenge for his career but Fury would really be a strong opponent for him. We've seen their aggressiveness of Fury during his previous matches and I doubt Usyk could beat him down that easy. He needs a lot of time to learn how to counter and have a strong defense against Fury.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 23, 2022, 08:15:20 AM

Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.

If Fury is overrated, then how did he managed to achieve 32-0 against top heavyweight boxers? If he is so overrated, then why no one managed to even knock him down? Wilder did, with his killer cannon. But it took seconds for Fury to recover. I dont remember any other big boxing fighters hurting Fury.

You know why Usyk wont beat Fury? Because that thick fat belly armor will protect Fury all the time Cheesy

He will close head with huge gloves and throw heavy punches on Usyk. And just because Fury is about to retire, judges would give him a win, so that he can retire undefeated Cheesy

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I added my vote for Usyk Cool

I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time Roll Eyes

When they enter the ring who do you think will win. Regardless of the trash talk or alleged trash talk, when they get in the ring do you think Usyk will really win?

If we exclude doping and other possible undercover fraud, then yes, I think Usyk should win. Naturally, this is a probabilistic event, but if we see this fight, I will bet on Usyk (I will answer for my words with money) since he will be terribly underestimated. Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.
On one of the forums, I read a funny summary of Fury's career: he defeated the old Klitschko once and a basketball player three times Grin

(sorry Wilder). In short, Fury is ripe, he must fall

Anthony Joshua also defeated Klitschko, Fury though beat a prime Wilder, and I'm not sure about the basketball player comment on Wilder. Usyk is a great boxer, he beat Joshua twice already, very skilled, but I don't think he will beat Fury. In terms of physical, I don't think that Usyk will be a threat, maybe Fury will have some problems with the style of Usyk specially the speed. But Fury himself is very awkward and this could throw Usyk off balance too.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 22, 2022, 05:19:24 PM

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I added my vote for Usyk Cool

I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time Roll Eyes

When they enter the ring who do you think will win. Regardless of the trash talk or alleged trash talk, when they get in the ring do you think Usyk will really win?

If we exclude doping and other possible undercover fraud, then yes, I think Usyk should win. Naturally, this is a probabilistic event, but if we see this fight, I will bet on Usyk (I will answer for my words with money) since he will be terribly underestimated. Fury is too overrated, I would probably bet against him on any opponent if he comes back.
On one of the forums, I read a funny summary of Fury's career: he defeated the old Klitschko once and a basketball player three times Grin

(sorry Wilder). In short, Fury is ripe, he must fall

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At the moment there are 15 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 12
Usyk to win: 3

It is fairly overwhelmingly in favour of Fury to win with 80% of the poll in his favour but I am curious if the 3 members that voted for Usyk think he will win by a KO/TKO or by a points decision. How do they think Usyk can win.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 23, 2022, 03:52:54 AM

In this possible fight, I also see Fury as a winner. It is hard to knockout such a giant as Fury. In this fight, Usyk truly is going to look like a man from lower division, and recent boxing and combat sports fights showed that fighting in other division is really hard. AJ was 10kg heavier than Usyk. Fury probably gonna be 20-30 more. His punches are going to be much heavier than AJ, Usyk gonna feel much different pain. Besides, Fury is fat but fast. Perhaps even as fast as Usyk.

Usyk is ambitious and should have challenged Fury to a fight. But he himself understands that this will be a very difficult fight for him, probably the hardest in his life, of course, if this fight takes place. Fury loves money, and if he said that he would fight for a lot of money, then I am sure that this money will be collected for him. I am not sure that Usyk needs this fight, if it does take place, then Usyk will not be able to knock out Fury, at best it will be 12 hard rounds.

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Although I'm rooting for Usyk, but objectively, Fury has a better chance of winning, if the fight takes place at all, of course, he is also hardy and fast as Usyk, besides, he has a powerful knockout punch. Among other things, the "Gypsy King" does not have too much of a break in order to lose shape, so if the fight takes place, I think it will be the greatest event in boxing and may delay the departure from boxing of both Fury and Usyk a little.

In this possible fight, I also see Fury as a winner. It is hard to knockout such a giant as Fury. In this fight, Usyk truly is going to look like a man from lower division, and recent boxing and combat sports fights showed that fighting in other division is really hard. AJ was 10kg heavier than Usyk. Fury probably gonna be 20-30 more. His punches are going to be much heavier than AJ, Usyk gonna feel much different pain. Besides, Fury is fat but fast. Perhaps even as fast as Usyk.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 22, 2022, 08:24:22 AM

I added my vote for Usyk Cool

I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time Roll Eyes

When they enter the ring who do you think will win. Regardless of the trash talk or alleged trash talk, when they get in the ring do you think Usyk will really win?

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Although I'm rooting for Usyk, but objectively, Fury has a better chance of winning, if the fight takes place at all, of course, he is also hardy and fast as Usyk, besides, he has a powerful knockout punch. Among other things, the "Gypsy King" does not have too much of a break in order to lose shape, so if the fight takes place, I think it will be the greatest event in boxing and may delay the departure from boxing of both Fury and Usyk a little.

Having a favourite is a good thing but in practical terms usually people can make a distinction between their favourite and the probable winner. I like Fury and Usyk but I think Fury will win based on what both of them are bringing in to the ring.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 22, 2022, 06:58:29 AM

I was hoping for more votes by now but there are 12 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 11
Usyk to win: 1

At the moment it is clear who the forum members think will win the fight. 91% of the voters are going for a Fury win and that view is probably shared by most people associated with the sport of boxing as well as commentators and fans.

I added my vote for Usyk Cool

I understand that Fury is a favorite (only due to his size), but his trash talk annoys me. Especially against the background of the fact that the sporting achievements of Fury himself are extremely doubtful. Plus he's smeared with doping. Maybe if it weren’t for doping, then such a lover of lying on canvas would not be able to get up every time Roll Eyes

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I was hoping for more votes by now but there are 12 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 11
Usyk to win: 1

At the moment it is clear who the forum members think will win the fight. 91% of the voters are going for a Fury win and that view is probably shared by most people associated with the sport of boxing as well as commentators and fans.

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 21, 2022, 06:54:15 PM

If Joshua managed to have beaten Usyk in the rematch he could have entered the ring to meet Fury in an all British unification fight that would have brought in unbelievable wealth for him but instead it is Usyk that will receive the fee.

Yes, at least that is what we are expecting, an all British showdown in the Heavyweight division, sold out O2 arena and Brits are raving about it. Unfortunately, even if Joshua has change his corner and getting a US trainer in Robert Garcia, he still lost to a good boxer in Usyk.

Quote from: JollyGood on August 21, 2022, 06:54:15 PM

You are right upsets can happen in sport but Fury will need to mess up badly in order for Usyk to win and I just do not see it happening. I think Fury will go in to the ring with the intention it will be his swansong therefore he will be confident and he will win.

Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 21, 2022, 06:36:08 PM

if they will indeed see huge payout for this match, their promoters will schedule this as soon as possible. remember, many times money matters when it comes to these respective promoters. and of course the purse split among their boxers. voted for fury here as well. and based from the poll, users here are rooting for fury. but we can never be sure as upsets in boxing always happen.

And everything is still in the hands of Fury, for sure he will be the A-side of this fight. And we have been saying that Usyk is a technical boxer, but there is none that we can compare at this division with Fury. And I agree that this could be Fury's swansong fight, even greater than his Wilder victories.

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Quote from: cabron on August 21, 2022, 09:03:04 PM

Sounded like the fight is on already when Usyk calls Tyson after his AJ fight. And then right after it, Fury also criticized both AJ and Usyk for being sh**.

Heavy guys like them are pretty much slow but Usyk is a lot faster and can work in volume than Fury though, which I think will be the characteristic that will make him winner against Tyson.

It's hard to see who will have the upperhand as far as the hand speed because both are very agile and too quick hands for a heavyweight. But I would say that natural and bigger HW will have the advantage and that is Fury. Remember that Usyk is a natural CW and that is why he seems to be very "light" for a HW boxer. But Fury is a freak of nature, at his height and weight, he is naturally gifted boxer and had a power in both hands.

So for me, maybe Usyk can stay with Fury early, but Fury can match his speed and will eventually caught Usyk a couple of times for a decision win.

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