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Quote from: Fortify on January 21, 2023, 03:11:40 AM

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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

There are companies out there who specialise in this sort of thing, but unless the ai has up to the minute inputs of news (like the top striker in a football team got injured the day before the match) then it'd not going to be especially effective. It is only as useful as the data it's been fed. Otherwise you might as well just gather statistics and come to more up to date conclusions based on relevant data.

According to what I have seen of Chat, GPT cannot predict events, its programming indicates it, however the company that is developing it is creating a new version, I imagine that it is improved and that it has more options, what intrigues me is if You can make predictions, if this is the case it would cause people to go crazy, because games of chance and sports will be something that will give them a lot of use, for the good of many things, I think that you will not be able to make predictions, but in the same way everything is a beta version, if they are working on this new update I think they will be able to do it until 2022, since it has information until 2021.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

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Ordinary people will never have access to an AI that is truly superior to other predictive tools. Obviously, such AI will be an expensive tool available to large companies. Once the technology becomes more widespread, there will be no point in using it - what's the point of making a super accurate forecast if your neighbor can easily make the same super accurate forecast? What everyone has is worth nothing.

Microsoft bought the technology from OpenAI for $10B and it already implemented it into Microsoft Teams.

That means that millions of people already have access to a powerful AI, and they can use it for predicting anything they want really.

Also, just having access to something doesn't mean people will use it.

For example, information is available for free but many people don't read it.

Also, for example many people know how to work out, make money, and eat healthy, but most people are fat and poor.

Microsoft's purchase of OpenAI technology is a significant turning point for the AI sector and will make its cutting-edge capabilities available to millions of consumers. However, as you pointed out, even having access does not necessarily ensure utilization. This is shown by the fact that despite free knowledge and information being easily accessible online, many individuals still choose to disregard it.

But I believe we could see a different result in the instance of Microsoft Teams and its combination with OpenAI technology. The reason for this is because whether we utilize AI for personal or professional purposes, it has already been so ingrained in our everyday lives. Additionally, the fact that Microsoft Teams is a popular platform for remote work and collaboration suggests that having AI features integrated in may improve its popularity among users.

AI may undoubtedly play a significant part in streamlining procedures and increasing efficiency, which are two things that organizations are always seeking to do. Teams might automate certain processes to save time and leverage the AI technology for insights and forecasts. I believe that as time goes on, more and more organizations and people will embrace AI and use its powers.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on February 03, 2023, 11:14:40 PM

True, but this means this is a race, by the time everyone gets access to an AI like that either the sportbooks find a way to adapt or they simply close their doors, but until that day comes anyone interested in the topic has the chance of developing an AI which can do this and have a huge advantage over any other player out there.

So it makes sense for anyone with the right knowledge to attempt to create an AI like that and obtain massive benefits to themselves.

And when they get an AI suitable for sports betting, they will start spreading it to many gamblers to see if the AI they have can be useful or still needs further development. The data collection process may help gamblers shorten their data search time to place their bets at the casino immediately. And there is a possibility that casinos that do not have large balances can close their places of business because many gamblers can win bets using AI. If this happens, casinos must really pay attention to how to adapt to AI technology so that it doesn't make them close their business.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

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Ordinary people will never have access to an AI that is truly superior to other predictive tools. Obviously, such AI will be an expensive tool available to large companies. Once the technology becomes more widespread, there will be no point in using it - what's the point of making a super accurate forecast if your neighbor can easily make the same super accurate forecast? What everyone has is worth nothing.

Microsoft bought the technology from OpenAI for $10B and it already implemented it into Microsoft Teams.

That means that millions of people already have access to a powerful AI, and they can use it for predicting anything they want really.

Also, just having access to something doesn't mean people will use it.

For example, information is available for free but many people don't read it.

Also, for example many people know how to work out, make money, and eat healthy, but most people are fat and poor.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 03, 2023, 05:12:19 PM

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Quote from: QueenVera on February 03, 2023, 02:49:15 PM

No matter how accurate the predictions of the artificial intelligence (AI) might be,I will never leave Betting of my games son by an artificial intelligence but I will rather get some scope from them and also do my own research.
But I've heard of situations where people leave their bets to artificial intelligence and are doing massively great in it. But frankly speaking, I really don't see myself in this kind of situation leaving my bettings to an AI and I will rather do copy gambling over this kind of situation.

Ordinary people will never have access to an AI that is truly superior to other predictive tools. Obviously, such AI will be an expensive tool available to large companies. Once the technology becomes more widespread, there will be no point in using it - what's the point of making a super accurate forecast if your neighbor can easily make the same super accurate forecast? What everyone has is worth nothing.

indeed! when that happens, i don't think there will be bookies to place your bet with. because before the bettors will take advantage of this tech, bookies already know about its existence and they won't permit to pay big winnings owed to AI. they will just shut down their operations and look for another profitable business. i don't think they are dumb to allow this scenario to happen. they are here for profits not bankruptcy.

True, but this means this is a race, by the time everyone gets access to an AI like that either the sportbooks find a way to adapt or they simply close their doors, but until that day comes anyone interested in the topic has the chance of developing an AI which can do this and have a huge advantage over any other player out there.

So it makes sense for anyone with the right knowledge to attempt to create an AI like that and obtain massive benefits to themselves.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 03, 2023, 03:28:27 PM

Quote from: QueenVera on February 03, 2023, 02:49:15 PM

No matter how accurate the predictions of the artificial intelligence (AI) might be,I will never leave Betting of my games son by an artificial intelligence but I will rather get some scope from them and also do my own research.
But I've heard of situations where people leave their bets to artificial intelligence and are doing massively great in it. But frankly speaking, I really don't see myself in this kind of situation leaving my bettings to an AI and I will rather do copy gambling over this kind of situation.

Ordinary people will never have access to an AI that is truly superior to other predictive tools. Obviously, such AI will be an expensive tool available to large companies. Once the technology becomes more widespread, there will be no point in using it - what's the point of making a super accurate forecast if your neighbor can easily make the same super accurate forecast? What everyone has is worth nothing.

indeed! when that happens, i don't think there will be bookies to place your bet with. because before the bettors will take advantage of this tech, bookies already know about its existence and they won't permit to pay big winnings owed to AI. they will just shut down their operations and look for another profitable business. i don't think they are dumb to allow this scenario to happen. they are here for profits not bankruptcy.

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Quote from: QueenVera on February 03, 2023, 02:49:15 PM

No matter how accurate the predictions of the artificial intelligence (AI) might be,I will never leave Betting of my games son by an artificial intelligence but I will rather get some scope from them and also do my own research.
But I've heard of situations where people leave their bets to artificial intelligence and are doing massively great in it. But frankly speaking, I really don't see myself in this kind of situation leaving my bettings to an AI and I will rather do copy gambling over this kind of situation.

Ordinary people will never have access to an AI that is truly superior to other predictive tools. Obviously, such AI will be an expensive tool available to large companies. Once the technology becomes more widespread, there will be no point in using it - what's the point of making a super accurate forecast if your neighbor can easily make the same super accurate forecast? What everyone has is worth nothing.

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Quote from: QueenVera on February 03, 2023, 02:49:15 PM

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In my opinion, we need to distinguish bettors into those who play for money and those who enjoy the very process of analyzing the upcoming match, the game and betting for fun.

The first ones will always try to increase their chances of winning with the help of various tools, no matter if it's famous forecasters or artificial intelligence.

We can all see the excitement created around artificial intelligence, and in fact it is only the beginning. I'm afraid to imagine what the future holds, but clearly AI will be used extensively in the prediction markets.

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No matter how accurate the predictions of the artificial intelligence (AI) might be,I will never leave Betting of my games son by an artificial intelligence but I will rather get some scope from them and also do my own research.
But I've heard of situations where people leave their bets to artificial intelligence and are doing massively great in it. But frankly speaking, I really don't see myself in this kind of situation leaving my bettings to an AI and I will rather do copy gambling over this kind of situation.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 01, 2023, 10:13:40 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on February 01, 2023, 05:05:33 PM

AI is here to stay and in the future will do most of our work for us. I foresee in the future everyone having their own AI that will easy do our analysis and tell us which game has the highest odds. I foresee that in the future, our personal AI will be able to give accurate predictions that will enable us beat the bookies. This will happen in the future when we as humans have achieved a good level of technological advancement. But but for now, What I think ChatGPT will do is just answer our sports related questions. That's all.

Not an impossible thing to happen, though I prefer an AI who will read us an update on the upcoming match and provide us with everything that we need to know regarding the status of each team, players, rotation, injuries, and all the general information that's going to affect the outcome of the game.
I don't want them to make their own prediction, instead I want all the information handed over to me at once, then I decide from there.
And, there is no accurate predictions though.

AI can provide this information as long as you will direct them from the source that you wanted them to sort out and pick all the information for your basis on your next target games, It's possible to get this information and have that good advantage since all the info are already in front of you.

Though, it's still depends from how you judge the information and how good is your knowledge about the game that you will going to take part, all the decision making should still be on your side and not because AI gives the idea and you will going to follow it blindly.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

Obviously that’s not possible for many reasons, ChatGPT is programmed by human being and collected informations that were already available so it’s not inventing or thinking by itself to predict future. There is many fields where this AI can help a lot and resolve tasks but its can never predict outcomes. What if for example you let this AI take a decision of a fixed match between both teams how can that AI know that.
I find it silly that people trying to scam or be in trend with these fake tips just as those are claiming to use it for trading and make millions of dollars in short time where we know trading requires a lot of experience and doesn’t always work.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on February 02, 2023, 02:34:48 PM

This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.

That could happen when there is a technology that can collect various kinds of valid information from many sources so that we can use that technology to determine which team has the advantage in a match. Maybe this looks strange at the moment, but after the technology can develop better, this may become a trend or a necessity for gamblers to guess the right team. But Paul the octopus is phenomenal because he can guess many matches correctly and people who follow Paul, the octopus, can win bets.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on February 02, 2023, 02:34:48 PM

This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.

Well, no one can predict the result of future matches perfectly. Over the time gamblers uses the past data to analysis and predict the current matches. Now we can say that analysis of the previous data is made easy by chatGPT and we do not have spend hours on the research. However, as told earlier, the previous data will never grantee the future matches results, it will just increase the probability.

So, i would say that we can use the tool like chatGPT for making decisions in betting but still keep money management in place and not become over confident by the fact we are using an AI tool to help us.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on February 02, 2023, 02:34:48 PM

This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.

On the time i had read up then i dont really believe at all but on the time i did make out some research then it did really happen.LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus

I havent read up the entire details on how predictions been made by this Octopus which it is surprising that it had been only wrong twice which is something
that proves out that it does work.

For ChatGPT then i doubt that there's someone would be posting up their results on using this thing.

I read Paul's wiki and was surprised about his divination getting 12 out of 14 is quite remarkable, especially since the animal is not exposed to data of the competing team. I still wonder if it is just a coincidence but 12/14 obviously is not.

AI development today is not good enough for sports prediction or other gambling outcomes. If you ask it, it will only give you a randomly generated answer. So better not to trust AI prediction unless you are wasting your bankroll to test the reliability of AI in predicting the outcome of sports betting.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on February 02, 2023, 02:34:48 PM

This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.

On the time i had read up then i dont really believe at all but on the time i did make out some research then it did really happen.LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus

I havent read up the entire details on how predictions been made by this Octopus which it is surprising that it had been only wrong twice which is something
that proves out that it does work.

For ChatGPT then i doubt that there's someone would be posting up their results on using this thing.

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This is the first I've heard of ChatGPT being used to predict sports. That's funny. I know that animals have been used to predict sports events. Paul the octopus, for example. Paul has predicted football matches 14 times and he's only been wrong twice. So if you want to win at sports betting, get a pet. It will probably make you a lot more money than the AI.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 01, 2023, 05:05:33 PM

AI is here to stay and in the future will do most of our work for us. I foresee in the future everyone having their own AI that will easy do our analysis and tell us which game has the highest odds. I foresee that in the future, our personal AI will be able to give accurate predictions that will enable us beat the bookies. This will happen in the future when we as humans have achieved a good level of technological advancement. But but for now, What I think ChatGPT will do is just answer our sports related questions. That's all.

Not to do the work for us but rather it would really be relevant on its existence specially for other industries on which it would be used the most and there's no denying into that and it is really that further developed as the years passing by and now we are seeing significant changes and updates on this year where it did really create some buzz and talks in town.So this end up on the mentioning on making use of it on gambling
side? No it isnt really that something you could rely on.On making some searches on things then it might relevant but in speaking about making some speculative approach specially on gambling
then it isnt something an AI could really be able to be that relevance because there are things which AI isnt really that applicable.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 01, 2023, 10:13:40 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on February 01, 2023, 05:05:33 PM

AI is here to stay and in the future will do most of our work for us. I foresee in the future everyone having their own AI that will easy do our analysis and tell us which game has the highest odds. I foresee that in the future, our personal AI will be able to give accurate predictions that will enable us beat the bookies. This will happen in the future when we as humans have achieved a good level of technological advancement. But but for now, What I think ChatGPT will do is just answer our sports related questions. That's all.

Not an impossible thing to happen, though I prefer an AI who will read us an update on the upcoming match and provide us with everything that we need to know regarding the status of each team, players, rotation, injuries, and all the general information that's going to affect the outcome of the game.
I don't want them to make their own prediction, instead I want all the information handed over to me at once, then I decide from there.
And, there is no accurate predictions though.

With technological advances in many fields, like it or not, we have to accept the arrival of AI to help people's daily lives.
And when that happens, it will change human life from initially using traditional and semi-traditional methods, which means we are still looking for information from trusted sources to become automatic because AI helps us to get valid information.
But the casinos will anticipate this because if they let it, they will definitely go bankrupt because many gamblers use AI to win many matches even for matches they don't know.
With AI, maybe we just have to choose the matches we like or just for fun.
But for me, I will choose the match and do some analysis while comparing the data obtained by the AI and then decide.

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Quote from: alastantiger on February 01, 2023, 05:05:33 PM

AI is here to stay and in the future will do most of our work for us. I foresee in the future everyone having their own AI that will easy do our analysis and tell us which game has the highest odds. I foresee that in the future, our personal AI will be able to give accurate predictions that will enable us beat the bookies. This will happen in the future when we as humans have achieved a good level of technological advancement. But but for now, What I think ChatGPT will do is just answer our sports related questions. That's all.

Not an impossible thing to happen, though I prefer an AI who will read us an update on the upcoming match and provide us with everything that we need to know regarding the status of each team, players, rotation, injuries, and all the general information that's going to affect the outcome of the game.
I don't want them to make their own prediction, instead I want all the information handed over to me at once, then I decide from there.
And, there is no accurate predictions though.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

Chatgpt is way too overblown and overexaggerated for absolutely no reason. Sure, ChatGPT is an amazing AI technology which almost could be mistaken for human, the way it sources and does research on anything it is asked, but it is really far from ideal. Any human can do better. This also goes for gambling predictions. I would rather trust my gut feeling and my own research than some AI novelty bot which is slightly more advanced than the other AI bots circulating on the artificial intelligence market.

Not that I believe outcomes in gambling can even be predicted at all... Roll Eyes

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