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Quote from: nullama on January 29, 2023, 11:54:01 PM

Quote from: len01 on January 29, 2023, 09:11:01 AM

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agree with your statement. it makes sense that ChatGPT is not yet completely accurate because the AI still relies on input programming and for me it is more accurate to use the predictions of our own brains than leaving predictions to AI.
well, even though I've never tried it, to be honest I'm not sure if AI can provide good predictions. even though if we often bet on sports betting, of course we have predictions that are stronger and more accurate. because we are used to predicting a match and we definitely know which team has good performance which we should choose.
so it would be better to rely on your own predictions than AI predictions.

Well, our minds also rely on inputs we get from the real world, like watching games, or reading about statistics, or latest results, etc.

In a way, these AIs work quite similar to how a human would predict a match outcome.

If you add lots of good data to the AI training, then it should be able to predict quite well, similar to how a human does it.

If a human has never seen a match of a specific sport, then that human would be terrible predicting, same as the AI.

The more matches and statistics the human gets to experience, the better the human gets, same as the AI.

very simple explanation but easy to understand.
but even though AI predictions will be the same as human predictions in general, I'm still not sure about the predictions made by AI.
because I personally am sometimes skeptical of other people's predictions, whether it's from social media or whatever form the prediction is, I don't believe it. I prefer the predictions that I plan myself.
and I'm sure, there will be people who share my thoughts.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on January 30, 2023, 02:37:02 AM

Why am I just thinking about this now? It should give better results than other match prediction sources but isn't A.I prediction based on data it can collect or gathered? This means that A.I still can't be 70% accurate because for example even the fittest football clubs still lose matches, this is the crazy part of games outcome, very hard to predict.

I've tried it and it doesn't produce anything. AI intelligence is not able to make any predictions. People should also try it. Sometimes I see it's strange that people say AI can predict anything when it's not at all, especially bitcoin price predictions.

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Why am I just thinking about this now? It should give better results than other match prediction sources but isn't A.I prediction based on data it can collect or gathered? This means that A.I still can't be 70% accurate because for example even the fittest football clubs still lose matches, this is the crazy part of games outcome, very hard to predict.

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Quote from: len01 on January 29, 2023, 09:11:01 AM

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agree with your statement. it makes sense that ChatGPT is not yet completely accurate because the AI still relies on input programming and for me it is more accurate to use the predictions of our own brains than leaving predictions to AI.
well, even though I've never tried it, to be honest I'm not sure if AI can provide good predictions. even though if we often bet on sports betting, of course we have predictions that are stronger and more accurate. because we are used to predicting a match and we definitely know which team has good performance which we should choose.
so it would be better to rely on your own predictions than AI predictions.

Well, our minds also rely on inputs we get from the real world, like watching games, or reading about statistics, or latest results, etc.

In a way, these AIs work quite similar to how a human would predict a match outcome.

If you add lots of good data to the AI training, then it should be able to predict quite well, similar to how a human does it.

If a human has never seen a match of a specific sport, then that human would be terrible predicting, same as the AI.

The more matches and statistics the human gets to experience, the better the human gets, same as the AI.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 12:12:06 PM

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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

agree with your statement. it makes sense that ChatGPT is not yet completely accurate because the AI still relies on input programming and for me it is more accurate to use the predictions of our own brains than leaving predictions to AI.
well, even though I've never tried it, to be honest I'm not sure if AI can provide good predictions. even though if we often bet on sports betting, of course we have predictions that are stronger and more accurate. because we are used to predicting a match and we definitely know which team has good performance which we should choose.
so it would be better to rely on your own predictions than AI predictions.

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Quote from: serjent05 on January 28, 2023, 06:22:44 PM

Even with lots of information and updated stats of teams in sports, AI will never give an accurate prediction, they can give us statistics and alike but they can never give us a precise prediction on what is about to happen. Chatgpt is good for historical data and historical analysis so I think AI will be good for information dissemination and factual information (according to what it was fed) but not good in determining the outcome of a game.

In theory is possible to do this, to illustrate this lets look at the weather forecast, to forecast the weather you need very complex models about how the weather will behave based on the different parameters we can measure like temperature, humidity and many other factors.

And even if it is true the weather report is not completely precise it gets close enough most of the time, if you could build an AI model which was similar to the one which gives predictions about the weather I have no doubts a gambler could become profitable with it.

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Quote from: serjent05 on January 28, 2023, 06:22:44 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 12:12:06 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

Even with lots of information and updated stats of teams in sports, AI will never give an accurate prediction, they can give us statistics and alike but they can never give us a precise prediction on what is about to happen. Chatgpt is good for historical data and historical analysis so I think AI will be good for information dissemination and factual information (according to what it was fed) but not good in determining the outcome of a game.

AI is still relying on the data that you been feeding on them. so yes, you can't expect precise or exact prediction because there are too many factors involve and AI can only process what they have. so when the sports is actually happening, AI doesn't know what will be the next move of the athlete, thus, won't know the final outcome of the game.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 12:12:06 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

Even with lots of information and updated stats of teams in sports, AI will never give an accurate prediction, they can give us statistics and alike but they can never give us a precise prediction on what is about to happen. Chatgpt is good for historical data and historical analysis so I think AI will be good for information dissemination and factual information (according to what it was fed) but not good in determining the outcome of a game.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on January 28, 2023, 02:49:00 PM

Atleast gathering data would be much faster than a human could do and of you don't like the AI to do the picking then you can just based your picks on what the AI have gathered. I know that it isn't 100% reliable when answering or choosing the right answer or outcomes but I can say that it is much better than human. As what others have suggested that the database should be updated for the AI to work better or have a higher chance of winning.

It is true that AI is not yet at the stage where its database will be updated as events occur. But it is confirmed that this capability will come in the future. However, I think it will be artificially intelligent because of it we can also get wrong signal. And since a large amount of data will be constantly updated, there may be a possibility of adversities.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 12:12:06 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

You prove that code and data constrain AI, especially complicated systems like ChatGPT. Based on patterns and data, can they foretell the future? Not likely.

Unexpected events can disrupt the best forecasts. Thus, projections should be viewed with suspicion.

In finance, healthcare, and sports, AI could revolutionize prediction. These predictions improve decision-making and identify hidden trends.

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Quote from: Mahanton on January 28, 2023, 02:28:25 PM

But only basing up with those past events on which it isnt really that bad to consider that they could really gather data in most efficient and most fastest way on where a human couldnt do on a specific period of time
and this is the way or thing i do see as an advantage but in speaking for current events or speculative approach on which its no doubt that human beings are still the ones who could make out some recognizable
speculations and guesses towards a fight.There are things which AI's couldnt be able to read up specially into other specific sentiments on where as we could only be able to understand out.
This is why its never been that 100% reliable if you do really have this consideration on making up some bets basing up to this.

Atleast gathering data would be much faster than a human could do and of you don't like the AI to do the picking then you can just based your picks on what the AI have gathered. I know that it isn't 100% reliable when answering or choosing the right answer or outcomes but I can say that it is much better than human. As what others have suggested that the database should be updated for the AI to work better or have a higher chance of winning.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 28, 2023, 02:10:35 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 12:12:06 PM

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

In fairness with the AIs, since they are programmed, they have access to all known sources that's why they can make a reasonable output.

Obviously, it shouldn't be relied on but what matter here is, since bots are relying on several sources, it can give us a good reference already without searching for other sources as the AI gave it all.

In sports betting, if we are familiar with the league and follow it regularly, any prediction from the AI can be considered just a choice.

But only basing up with those past events on which it isnt really that bad to consider that they could really gather data in most efficient and most fastest way on where a human couldnt do on a specific period of time
and this is the way or thing i do see as an advantage but in speaking for current events or speculative approach on which its no doubt that human beings are still the ones who could make out some recognizable
speculations and guesses towards a fight.There are things which AI's couldnt be able to read up specially into other specific sentiments on where as we could only be able to understand out.
This is why its never been that 100% reliable if you do really have this consideration on making up some bets basing up to this.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 28, 2023, 12:12:06 PM

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

In fairness with the AIs, since they are programmed, they have access to all known sources that's why they can make a reasonable output.

Obviously, it shouldn't be relied on but what matter here is, since bots are relying on several sources, it can give us a good reference already without searching for other sources as the AI gave it all.

In sports betting, if we are familiar with the league and follow it regularly, any prediction from the AI can be considered just a choice.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

No, AI may be intelligent but cannot predict anything. They are programmed to give a certain output to a certain input. They may try, but in the long run, I think we are still very far off from seeing that. I would like to think that the only way this may happen is if we have a cyborg, but that isn't going to happen. I have yet to see a thread of ChatGPT predictions. I guess they will not be accurate. Besides, ChatGPT still needs a lot of data and training to reach accuracy in whatever predictions it makes.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2023, 07:35:54 AM

Quote from: electronicash on January 26, 2023, 09:12:11 AM

~ when the underdog wins, the AI will never foresee it. but definitely, the AI or any other sports picker will predict which team has a high probability of winning.

Yes, and that will affect the odds right away. So, what we would may need the AI for, is to dig out an info that few people are aware about. Like a facebook post by a close relative of an athlete telling that everyone contracted COVID after a family event. It won't be in the news, but it can affect the outcome significantly.

But we need the AI which database is constantly updated on an hourly basis. And ChatGPT is not such an AI, at the moment.

Those information is very crucial as it can change the situation in case something like that happen, the availability of the players or someone that's part of the team will be absent, I think for now the data that AI will detect are those that are available from the information bank that the user will pinpoint.

Unexpected things are not or will not be available, something that also needed to consider when trying to get a better chance
of winning.

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Quote from: electronicash on January 26, 2023, 09:12:11 AM

~ when the underdog wins, the AI will never foresee it. but definitely, the AI or any other sports picker will predict which team has a high probability of winning.

Yes, and that will affect the odds right away. So, what we would may need the AI for, is to dig out an info that few people are aware about. Like a facebook post by a close relative of an athlete telling that everyone contracted COVID after a family event. It won't be in the news, but it can affect the outcome significantly.

But we need the AI which database is constantly updated on an hourly basis. And ChatGPT is not such an AI, at the moment.

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Quote from: snipie on January 27, 2023, 07:37:03 PM

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Quote from: snipie on January 22, 2023, 04:59:29 PM

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In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

Totally agree with you. Human intervention is essential at least for the near future and I doubt that our intervention will not be required later but definitely less and less..
Scientific journals for example are being worried about that and will definitely implement a detection system or maybe a signed paper to declare that they didn't use the bot or maybe declare that they used it for correction, inspiration or something particular in an article..

There are probably cryptographic solutions coming so people cannot abuse the Artificial intelligence technologies to cheat on important things, which are supposed to be done entirely by human beings or at least being reviewed by human beings.

As for sport betting or gambling, I assume those who are actually willing to develop an AI to bet or gamble won't disclose the code to the public or won't even offer the executable for sale.

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Quote from: redsun114 on January 24, 2023, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: snipie on January 22, 2023, 04:59:29 PM

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In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

Totally agree with you. Human intervention is essential at least for the near future and I doubt that our intervention will not be required later but definitely less and less..
Scientific journals for example are being worried about that and will definitely implement a detection system or maybe a signed paper to declare that they didn't use the bot or maybe declare that they used it for correction, inspiration or something particular in an article..

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Quote from: slapper on January 27, 2023, 05:20:01 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 23, 2023, 04:36:22 AM

AI in betting will undoubtedly affect the game. In order to make better decisions, it's important to analyze data and trends in addition to simply anticipating outcomes. The best part is that it is faster and more effective than human analysis because it can quickly digest a large volume of data.

The "AI" we are talking about is basically kind of machine-learning in most cases. There is no true AI as mentioned before. However, using the current model would mean that you need to implement insane amount of data into it.

For example chatgpt was created by using unimaginable amount of data feed into it, I am not sure how much but it was some amount I never heard before, I know giga, terra and peta but this was even more than that I think. All in all that is the hardest thing to do considering the game is something that evolves constantly, even now a team could buy a player from another team, and you need to adjust, that would be the hardest part to adjust on any AI out there.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 23, 2023, 04:36:22 AM

I have not tried it, and probably because it's the first time I'm reading about it 🤣, I have never thought that AI can be used to make betting decisions. Dumb me😝, to not even have thought of it, knowing that artificial intelligence is greatly appreciated in some countries. Last year, I read an article about how some AI is frequently employed in the health care department. The information confirms that they are effective in carrying out their activity.

For the fact that I have not tried AI to make my betting decision, I would love to if I had the chance. Depending on the winning results of the AI bet and the wins of my personal decision, that would determine which is better and the one to be used most often. betting has never be so accurate in prediction according to the gamblers knowledge, I am just wondering how accurate it can be with AI's decision.

AI betting will change sports. Data analysis and trend detection can improve decision-making. It's faster and more efficient than humans in processing big amounts of data. The best sportsbooks are using AI. They developed algorithms to predict game and event outcomes. Machine learning can teach these systems from new data. AI betting resources are available online. AI-powered prediction and betting bots exist. Research a dependable service. AI may be biased and erroneous. Thus, use judgment and research. AI may enhance sports betting, but more research is needed.

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