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Quote from: Bushdark on February 01, 2023, 05:28:16 PM

ChatGPT is just a software that can always has bugs so I don't think there would be any accuracy to the predictions done by a chatGPT. Since the outcome of most of the sport games are not 100% known so we just have to know that the predictions would never be always authentic.
We are gamblers and most time we do make predictable according to how strong the team is and most we still get it wrong because the weak team might be fortunate enough to make goals that will make them ha e iighers goals than their opponent.

ChatGPT, and others, simply process information, similar to how a human would do it, to male predictions about future events.

Of course since there's some random element, the predictions will never be 100% accurate, but AI is getting closer and sometimes maybe better than human predictions.

And the important thing is that a human needs to learn a lot to make good predictions, whereas the AI can learn the same or more in way less time and make similar or better predictions.

AI is just a tool, same with how the Internet is just a tool.

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ChatGPT is just a software that can always has bugs so I don't think there would be any accuracy to the predictions done by a chatGPT. Since the outcome of most of the sport games are not 100% known so we just have to know that the predictions would never be always authentic.
We are gamblers and most time we do make predictable according to how strong the team is and most we still get it wrong because the weak team might be fortunate enough to make goals that will make them ha e iighers goals than their opponent.

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AI is here to stay and in the future will do most of our work for us. I foresee in the future everyone having their own AI that will easy do our analysis and tell us which game has the highest odds. I foresee that in the future, our personal AI will be able to give accurate predictions that will enable us beat the bookies. This will happen in the future when we as humans have achieved a good level of technological advancement. But but for now, What I think ChatGPT will do is just answer our sports related questions. That's all.

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Quote from: bittraffic on February 01, 2023, 10:18:50 AM

AI will not perfect predictions. Definitely, it can overlook something it can't make a better prediction, it only be following the statistics which I think is the first that AI will look at before comparing the skills of the team members or a fighter and then searching for the bookmaker's favorite team. And as a result, it will be its pick. Not so much of a technical comparison of what players can do.

AI has to be sophisticated enough to independently choose a team beyond what bookmakers could see. Like the previous 10 fights in thier early competition before the athlete joins the pro boxing or NBA.

AI is data processing algorithms. If there is no data, then it is obvious that AI will not be able to make predictions (especially true ones) based on missing data. But as we all see, neural networks are developing at a tremendous speed and very soon AI will be able to extract data itself (from news, videos, etc.) without relying on the fact that a person will provide it with them. And I think that such an AI forecaster will be much more accurate than today's best quote providers.

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Quote from: FatFork on February 01, 2023, 02:27:18 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 28, 2023, 06:46:22 PM

AI is still relying on the data that you been feeding on them. so yes, you can't expect precise or exact prediction because there are too many factors involve and AI can only process what they have. so when the sports is actually happening, AI doesn't know what will be the next move of the athlete, thus, won't know the final outcome of the game.

Yeah, totally agree with you there! AI is only as good as the data it's fed. So if there's any bias or inaccuracies in the training data, it's gonna show up in the AI's predictions. And let's not forget that AI can only think about the factors it's been programmed to consider, so there could be other important variables affecting the prediction that the AI doesn't even know about. But despite these limitations, I still think AI and machine learning are super cool for analyzing huge amounts of data and coming up with conclusions. As for using AI to predict sports results, I'm not so sure. We'll just have to wait and see!

Of course there would be always those limitation and one of those is on predicting on future events which is to come and we do know that there are lots of factors and things which we do need to consider about before

taking any step further specially on the betting side of things.Its never been that recommendable or suggestable that you should really relying on what an AI been recommending which is true that it is really been fed
up by information and would be stored into its library which we cant even be sure whether those things been answered would be that accurate or not.

Also, it is always better not to rely on something or anyone when it comes into your betting selections.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 28, 2023, 06:46:22 PM

AI is still relying on the data that you been feeding on them. so yes, you can't expect precise or exact prediction because there are too many factors involve and AI can only process what they have. so when the sports is actually happening, AI doesn't know what will be the next move of the athlete, thus, won't know the final outcome of the game.

Yeah, totally agree with you there! AI is only as good as the data it's fed. So if there's any bias or inaccuracies in the training data, it's gonna show up in the AI's predictions. And let's not forget that AI can only think about the factors it's been programmed to consider, so there could be other important variables affecting the prediction that the AI doesn't even know about. But despite these limitations, I still think AI and machine learning are super cool for analyzing huge amounts of data and coming up with conclusions. As for using AI to predict sports results, I'm not so sure. We'll just have to wait and see!

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Quote from: robelneo on February 01, 2023, 09:07:16 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on January 30, 2023, 06:13:51 PM

Even with gambling this will help in collecting the data of the matches played between two teams earlier and based on the outcome it'll give the suggestion. If two new teams were playing then the AI can't make better prediction. So, gambling is an exception in this scenario. Also we can't expect AI to be cent percent as that we predict in games that are really close to each other in odds and performance.

I'm ok with AI helping me in my prediction I've already said that AI is very popular in many industries to help them create and build projects within that industries, AI can analyze past and present performance to recommend future results but it should be up to you to make a final decision because in the ends there are many factors that AI overlooked, it may be perfect in some industries but not in gambling where the results are dynamic and changing.

As long as we are getting a benefit with it then why not right? But we aren't also dumb to continue using them even though the result that we are get are not pleasant anymore. The AI that we see in other industries is way too common now but the one that we have in this topic can still be debatable as it was still new but you said it's already working on your side? Cool then.

BTW, is the AI that you are talking about is ChatGPT? Or maybe there are other AIs which are better than it? Because I heard that Chatgpt has its own main usage and not really being used for betting or for any other things. I can agree that AI can analyse past results but not the future.

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I think AI can predict the result quite good but from me, I won't actually use it for betting. Prediction will always be a result based on 50/50 chance. And if you are good at predicting the game yourself, then why should you use AI in the first place. Prediction does not always happen based on analysis, sometime you can win with your luck too.
But if anyone wants to use it, then it's their personal decision. But for me, I won't use it. Corrupted data, server error, weak AI... There's a lot that can influence the final result of a prediction.

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Quote from: robelneo on February 01, 2023, 09:07:16 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on January 30, 2023, 06:13:51 PM

Even with gambling this will help in collecting the data of the matches played between two teams earlier and based on the outcome it'll give the suggestion. If two new teams were playing then the AI can't make better prediction. So, gambling is an exception in this scenario. Also we can't expect AI to be cent percent as that we predict in games that are really close to each other in odds and performance.

I'm ok with AI helping me in my prediction I've already said that AI is very popular in many industries to help them create and build projects within that industries, AI can analyze past and present performance to recommend future results but it should be up to you to make a final decision because in the ends there are many factors that AI overlooked, it may be perfect in some industries but not in gambling where the results are dynamic and changing.

AI will not perfect predictions. Definitely, it can overlook something it can't make a better prediction, it only be following the statistics which I think is the first that AI will look at before comparing the skills of the team members or a fighter and then searching for the bookmaker's favorite team. And as a result, it will be its pick. Not so much of a technical comparison of what players can do.

AI has to be sophisticated enough to independently choose a team beyond what bookmakers could see. Like the previous 10 fights in thier early competition before the athlete joins the pro boxing or NBA.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 08, 2022, 11:11:37 PM

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?

No, I definitely do not prefer to bet with suggestions made by artificial intelligence. Although it provides great convenience to perform the past analysis, unfortunately, I only evaluate the suggestions presented in this way and choose to gamble by making my own decision accordingly. The fact that it does not work perfectly yet, that there is no clear conclusion about the reliability of the sources from which the data is provided, and that I do not trust artificial intelligence research on this subject, definitely explains my choice in the survey.

However, although I think that one should not act directly on the decision obtained from here, evaluating the research data to be obtained from here and gambling as a result can contribute to better results. In short, although I think that the use of artificial intelligence in the analysis process contributes to this process, I definitely think that the final decision should be made by the user. In no way do I place a bet on the suggestions offered by artificial intelligence without doing my own research.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on January 30, 2023, 06:13:51 PM

Even with gambling this will help in collecting the data of the matches played between two teams earlier and based on the outcome it'll give the suggestion. If two new teams were playing then the AI can't make better prediction. So, gambling is an exception in this scenario. Also we can't expect AI to be cent percent as that we predict in games that are really close to each other in odds and performance.

I'm ok with AI helping me in my prediction I've already said that AI is very popular in many industries to help them create and build projects within that industries, AI can analyze past and present performance to recommend future results but it should be up to you to make a final decision because in the ends there are many factors that AI overlooked, it may be perfect in some industries but not in gambling where the results are dynamic and changing.

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Those information is very crucial as it can change the situation in case something like that happen, the availability of the players or someone that's part of the team will be absent, I think for now the data that AI will detect are those that are available from the information bank that the user will pinpoint.

Unexpected things are not or will not be available, something that also needed to consider when trying to get a better chance
of winning.

And the information bank should be updated on a regular basis. To use it for sports betting predictions it can't be a bank last updated more than a year ago. Such an AI can be used for many things, but not for sports betting.

Quote from: nakamura12 on January 28, 2023, 02:49:00 PM

~ As what others have suggested that the database should be updated for the AI to work better or have a higher chance of winning.

If we are talking about predictions for the upcoming events, it's not about working better or having a better chance of the right prediction. It's about the ability to function at all. Without the latest information you can still predict many things accurately, but not the outcomes of sports events.

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Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner Roll Eyes

Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..

Though AI is already there even before but the talks about them aren't that strong not until this Chatgpt came out. Now the topic about AIs are hot again. There is no perfect in this world so what do we expect? But despite of that fact, Chatgpt still functions very well. People love using it and that is why it became the talked of the town.

AIs like Chatgpt still need our help for them to function, so for those people who think AIs will dominate us soon, I think that's far from happening. In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

True, though AI is there to help us, but the rest should be done by us and the final decision should still come from us. And with this latest ChatGPT that is very trending now online, yes it’s very powerful and helpful in most of our basic learning needs, but gambling has never been fixed and predicted, so I don’t see it that AI is very significant in predicting gambling outcomes.

Even with gambling this will help in collecting the data of the matches played between two teams earlier and based on the outcome it'll give the suggestion. If two new teams were playing then the AI can't make better prediction. So, gambling is an exception in this scenario. Also we can't expect AI to be cent percent as that we predict in games that are really close to each other in odds and performance.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on January 30, 2023, 02:37:02 AM

Why am I just thinking about this now? It should give better results than other match prediction sources but isn't A.I prediction based on data it can collect or gathered? This means that A.I still can't be 70% accurate because

And there's a big chance that AI won't give you a prediction because it's made based on the gathered facts and not to give an opinion unlike what we can do with reasonable and logical thinking.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on January 30, 2023, 02:37:02 AM

for example even the fittest football clubs still lose matches, this is the crazy part of games outcome, very hard to predict.

That's why it's a prediction, it may go north or south, right or wrong.

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 30, 2023, 02:45:40 AM

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Why am I just thinking about this now? It should give better results than other match prediction sources but isn't A.I prediction based on data it can collect or gathered? This means that A.I still can't be 70% accurate because for example even the fittest football clubs still lose matches, this is the crazy part of games outcome, very hard to predict.

I've tried it and it doesn't produce anything. AI intelligence is not able to make any predictions. People should also try it. Sometimes I see it's strange that people say AI can predict anything when it's not at all, especially bitcoin price predictions.

I watched one gambling session of a streamer on youtube. He uses chatgpt to predict the best-case scenario of beating other opponents and it failed miserably. Since the data he use is from 2021, I believe there will be some concern about the analysis since the ai isn't fully fed or updated.

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Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner Roll Eyes

Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..

Though AI is already there even before but the talks about them aren't that strong not until this Chatgpt came out. Now the topic about AIs are hot again. There is no perfect in this world so what do we expect? But despite of that fact, Chatgpt still functions very well. People love using it and that is why it became the talked of the town.

AIs like Chatgpt still need our help for them to function, so for those people who think AIs will dominate us soon, I think that's far from happening. In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

True, though AI is there to help us, but the rest should be done by us and the final decision should still come from us. And with this latest ChatGPT that is very trending now online, yes it’s very powerful and helpful in most of our basic learning needs, but gambling has never been fixed and predicted, so I don’t see it that AI is very significant in predicting gambling outcomes.

Yeah Chatgpt needs to be updated in order to precisely have a conlusion along with the current events. Gambling is indeed have different outcome since its result is programmed to be random but sportsbetting is a different thing. With an updated data, I believe Chatgpt would be a monster of prediction.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on January 30, 2023, 03:53:37 PM

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Its not really that significant but there are people who do pushes out their ideas that it do works and this is where people do differ when it comes to thinking.Some are just that realistic but there are people who

arent just using up their common sense.If this AI is really that effective on gambling then most gamblers would be making use of it and the bookies would really gone bankrupt.There's no such thing about business
if ever things to be that predictable.This is why its never been that ideal on relying yourself into AI when it comes to gambling predictions.Just like the rest been saying that it would depend
on how vast and how big its library which we can rely on researching up things but dealing up with situations which do happens in the future? Its impossible.

Yeah, people forget that casinos also are testing out the tools available out there, and they probably already have been using them for a long time.

At the end of the day they also need to calculate the odds for every game, and they are doing this full time, not like a gambler that casually checks the new tools.

It's always math in the end, and math tells you the house has an advantage. So, in the long term, the house always wins.

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Quote from: Viscore on January 30, 2023, 02:54:26 PM

Quote from: redsun114 on January 24, 2023, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: snipie on January 22, 2023, 04:59:29 PM

Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner Roll Eyes

Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..

Though AI is already there even before but the talks about them aren't that strong not until this Chatgpt came out. Now the topic about AIs are hot again. There is no perfect in this world so what do we expect? But despite of that fact, Chatgpt still functions very well. People love using it and that is why it became the talked of the town.

AIs like Chatgpt still need our help for them to function, so for those people who think AIs will dominate us soon, I think that's far from happening. In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

True, though AI is there to help us, but the rest should be done by us and the final decision should still come from us. And with this latest ChatGPT that is very trending now online, yes it’s very powerful and helpful in most of our basic learning needs, but gambling has never been fixed and predicted, so I don’t see it that AI is very significant in predicting gambling outcomes.

Its not really that significant but there are people who do pushes out their ideas that it do works and this is where people do differ when it comes to thinking.Some are just that realistic but there are people who

arent just using up their common sense.If this AI is really that effective on gambling then most gamblers would be making use of it and the bookies would really gone bankrupt.There's no such thing about business
if ever things to be that predictable.This is why its never been that ideal on relying yourself into AI when it comes to gambling predictions.Just like the rest been saying that it would depend
on how vast and how big its library which we can rely on researching up things but dealing up with situations which do happens in the future? Its impossible.

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Quote from: snipie on January 22, 2023, 04:59:29 PM

Just two words about this subject (AI) that became more talked about since the hype about Chatgpt. Well the bot isn't bad but far from being perfect and requires human intervention to fix the text but can help people getting ideas and so on.
For sports, we always hear about AI selecting the winner for big competitions which ends up being eliminated then select another winner Roll Eyes

Data has nothing to do with real events but can give an overall idea about it. For example, with covid-19, we saw half of the team being absent and the result was the opposite..

Though AI is already there even before but the talks about them aren't that strong not until this Chatgpt came out. Now the topic about AIs are hot again. There is no perfect in this world so what do we expect? But despite of that fact, Chatgpt still functions very well. People love using it and that is why it became the talked of the town.

AIs like Chatgpt still need our help for them to function, so for those people who think AIs will dominate us soon, I think that's far from happening. In conclusion, We can use AIs to help us but we shouldn't totally rely on them. The rest of the work must still be done by us to ensure that the outcome is great as we expected it.

True, though AI is there to help us, but the rest should be done by us and the final decision should still come from us. And with this latest ChatGPT that is very trending now online, yes it’s very powerful and helpful in most of our basic learning needs, but gambling has never been fixed and predicted, so I don’t see it that AI is very significant in predicting gambling outcomes.

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Quote from: len01 on January 30, 2023, 05:51:32 AM

very simple explanation but easy to understand.
but even though AI predictions will be the same as human predictions in general, I'm still not sure about the predictions made by AI.
because I personally am sometimes skeptical of other people's predictions, whether it's from social media or whatever form the prediction is, I don't believe it. I prefer the predictions that I plan myself.
and I'm sure, there will be people who share my thoughts.

I think I agree with you but that depends on the person and not the AI. Meaning, if you trust yourself and you are doing fine, doesn't have to be amazing but doing just fine, even breaking even, then in that case you should be fine without using AI. If you are doing great and basically making a living from sports betting, then it would be stupid to use AI as well, it would be terrible.

However, if you are betting and losing all the time, you can't win, and you lose 90% of the bets you gamble? In that case, I think it wouldn't hurt to gamble a little bit, you could end up gambling and making a bit of money. I think it would be a lot better in that case to use AI in fact, because it would be at least a bit decent.

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Quote from: nullama on January 29, 2023, 11:54:01 PM

Quote from: len01 on January 29, 2023, 09:11:01 AM

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agree with your statement. it makes sense that ChatGPT is not yet completely accurate because the AI still relies on input programming and for me it is more accurate to use the predictions of our own brains than leaving predictions to AI.
well, even though I've never tried it, to be honest I'm not sure if AI can provide good predictions. even though if we often bet on sports betting, of course we have predictions that are stronger and more accurate. because we are used to predicting a match and we definitely know which team has good performance which we should choose.
so it would be better to rely on your own predictions than AI predictions.

Well, our minds also rely on inputs we get from the real world, like watching games, or reading about statistics, or latest results, etc.

In a way, these AIs work quite similar to how a human would predict a match outcome.

If you add lots of good data to the AI training, then it should be able to predict quite well, similar to how a human does it.

If a human has never seen a match of a specific sport, then that human would be terrible predicting, same as the AI.

The more matches and statistics the human gets to experience, the better the human gets, same as the AI.

very simple explanation but easy to understand.
but even though AI predictions will be the same as human predictions in general, I'm still not sure about the predictions made by AI.
because I personally am sometimes skeptical of other people's predictions, whether it's from social media or whatever form the prediction is, I don't believe it. I prefer the predictions that I plan myself.
and I'm sure, there will be people who share my thoughts.

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