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Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 158. (Read 465769 times)

newbie
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Could there be something wrong with the share counting? I'm only submitting 1 or 2 shares per minute with my 670kh, but the website reports a lot more.
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ID	Ended	Shares (yours / total)	Blocks Found
14468 OPEN 12800 / 598881058 23
14467 2014-03-18 11:06:22 39936 / 753357798 4
14466 2014-03-18 10:54:01 27648 / 752247133 28
14465 2014-03-18 10:42:01 39936 / 773460473 0
14464 2014-03-18 10:29:32 39424 / 752870351 7
14463 2014-03-18 10:16:32 39936 / 758936519 10
14462 2014-03-18 10:02:52 43520 / 755157469 8
14461 2014-03-18 09:49:01 44544 / 754043309 13
14460 2014-03-18 09:35:06 56320 / 760331255 2
14459 2014-03-18 09:21:11 37888 / 755024321 10
sr. member
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Another quick thing, since I'm sure there are people out there scraping our stats page for it (our heaviest page to load of course):

http://wafflepool.com/stats_api
Index is # days ago.  So first index (0) is "today", 1 is yesterday, etc.

is there api access to the pools current profitability anywhere? i.e. BTC/MH/day at the current moment?

That API is giving you exactly what you're asking for...
newbie
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Another quick thing, since I'm sure there are people out there scraping our stats page for it (our heaviest page to load of course):

http://wafflepool.com/stats_api
Index is # days ago.  So first index (0) is "today", 1 is yesterday, etc.

is there api access to the pools current profitability anywhere? i.e. BTC/MH/day at the current moment?
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
eh, no its not. its price has plummetted over the last 24 hrs as people have dumped the coins and the difficulty has dropped by 50% as people have stopped mining it and its only on a coiuple of smaller exchanges.
i mined it for about 18 hrs and got very little back.

Yes, but, is it very important for WP, because we mine and immediately change it on btc on currently exchange rates?
And I think so EarthCoin & Flappycoin not more profitable then Spaincoin, and we can move some part of our hashrate on spaincoin too.
PS: I'm not PR-manager of SpainCoin, I just want more profit for all WP and me too))

Just a matter of not jumping on it quickly enough.  MintPal doesn't have the APIs we need to trade, so everything has to be done manually, which means a huge amount of risk depending on how long we have to hold the coins (and if I have to manually trade, that means holding them for 8hrs while I sleep, etc).  I was also buried in code yesterday getting a new version of the stratum server ready to go, and in that time, that coin lost a bit over half its value.  So there really isn't any reason we couldn't have mined it, just that we didn't.
newbie
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eh, no its not. its price has plummetted over the last 24 hrs as people have dumped the coins and the difficulty has dropped by 50% as people have stopped mining it and its only on a coiuple of smaller exchanges.
i mined it for about 18 hrs and got very little back.

Yes, but, is it very important for WP, because we mine and immediately change it on btc on currently exchange rates?
And I think so EarthCoin & Flappycoin not more profitable then Spaincoin, and we can move some part of our hashrate on spaincoin too.
PS: I'm not PR-manager of SpainCoin, I just want more profit for all WP and me too))
full member
Activity: 156
Merit: 100
PW, what's about SpainCoin? new coin on coinwarz, 180% Profitability over LTC, Netw. Diff 800+

So, I asking again... Why we not mining this coin? It's 175% Profitability over LTC right now.
PS: Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.


eh, no its not. its price has plummetted over the last 24 hrs as people have dumped the coins and the difficulty has dropped by 50% as people have stopped mining it and its only on a coiuple of smaller exchanges.

i mined it for about 18 hrs and got very little back.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
PW, what's about SpainCoin? new coin on coinwarz, 180% Profitability over LTC, Netw. Diff 800+

So, I asking again... Why we not mining this coin? It's 175% Profitability over LTC right now.
PS: Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.
hero member
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Merit: 500
is it supposed to look like this?


Yes.  It is an API interface to the stats table (so other programs can access the information without needing to pull the more detailed stats and html information).
legendary
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Another quick thing, since I'm sure there are people out there scraping our stats page for it (our heaviest page to load of course):

http://wafflepool.com/stats_api
Index is # days ago.  So first index (0) is "today", 1 is yesterday, etc.

is it supposed to look like this?

[{"earned":17.299778240001,"hashrate":12526024174.502,"permhs":0.0057097294099871},{"earned":141.28783517,"hashrate":21304972159.962,"permhs":0.0066316836327775},{"earned":94.60423253,"hashrate":15655875758.835,"permhs":0.0060427301536685},{"earned":180.71696251,"hashrate":33680342525.974,"permhs":0.0053656509689779},{"earned":145.062423,"hashrate":24912626638.848,"permhs":0.0058228473899173},{"earned":224.34342899,"hashrate":36551658150.796,"permhs":0.0061377086660326},{"earned":223.2047698,"hashrate":35310771339.978,"permhs":0.0063211524792519}]
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
Another quick thing, since I'm sure there are people out there scraping our stats page for it (our heaviest page to load of course):

http://wafflepool.com/stats_api
Index is # days ago.  So first index (0) is "today", 1 is yesterday, etc.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 254
Is it still a good idea to mine Dogecoin?

after the static dogecoin block reward implemented today,  pool can no longer cherry pick big reward blocks.

Also with the new difficulty algorithm coinwarz and coinchoose are showing different difficulties. and both are incorrect IMHO. Actual difficulty is higher than what both website shows.

Difficulty changes every block now I think or something like that

WafflePool's profit switching system considers each block and its difficulty, reward, exchange depth and price, etc (and throws in a few other offsets).  If we are mining Doge, it's because at the difficulty of that block, it was more valuable to mine then the alternatives.

Keep in mind, also, that PoolWaffle has indicated that the new switcher mines multiple coins simultaneously - ala, splitting WafflePool's total hashrate at multiple coins.  If you want many miners at once connected to WafflePool, you will notice workers diverge in mining duty on occasion.

This is correct.  They also do caching (you'll only notice them changing data every 5min or so), we check literally nonstop.  We mine Doge when it is profitable, something else when that something else is profitable, has nothing to do with random block rewards, other than with random block rewards the profitability changed drastically from block to block, now it just shifts slower...

I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.
It's a Chinese group - they have posted on these forums as 'sfire' - that is moving the ~20GH/s back and forth.  PoolWaffle disabled proxying to GHash as soon as they implemented the tiered bonus scheme.

@PoolWaffle: WafflePool's profitability does seem to consistently climb a bit whenever sfire leaves.  Is this really just due to luck?  Seems weird to me.

Unlikely due to luck.  I mentioned a few posts back about rewriting the stratum endpoints, I think it has something to do with some lag/delays in processing immediately after finding a block, and with 20GHs, that few seconds of delay becomes a much more significant portion of block finding time.  Working on rewriting the whole thing now to try to speed it up Smiley
hero member
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Is it still a good idea to mine Dogecoin?

after the static dogecoin block reward implemented today,  pool can no longer cherry pick big reward blocks.

Also with the new difficulty algorithm coinwarz and coinchoose are showing different difficulties. and both are incorrect IMHO. Actual difficulty is higher than what both website shows.

Difficulty changes every block now I think or something like that

WafflePool's profit switching system considers each block and its difficulty, reward, exchange depth and price, etc (and throws in a few other offsets).  If we are mining Doge, it's because at the difficulty of that block, it was more valuable to mine then the alternatives.

Keep in mind, also, that PoolWaffle has indicated that the new switcher mines multiple coins simultaneously - ala, splitting WafflePool's total hashrate at multiple coins.  If you want many miners at once connected to WafflePool, you will notice workers diverge in mining duty on occasion.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Is it still a good idea to mine Dogecoin?

after the static dogecoin block reward implemented today,  pool can no longer cherry pick big reward blocks.

Also with the new difficulty algorithm coinwarz and coinchoose are showing different difficulties. and both are incorrect IMHO. Actual difficulty is higher than what both website shows.

Difficulty changes every block now I think or something like that
hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
Is it still a good idea to mine Dogecoin?

after the static dogecoin block reward implemented today,  pool can no longer cherry pick big reward blocks.

Also with the new difficulty algorithm coinwarz and coinchoose are showing different difficulties. and both are incorrect IMHO. Actual difficulty is higher than what both website shows.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
@PoolWaffle: WafflePool's profitability does seem to consistently climb a bit whenever sfire leaves.  Is this really just due to luck?  Seems weird to me.
No, it is basic economic. Less dumping of coins on market at once = higher price per coin for the rest of us.
I highly doubt that.  If we don't mine them, someone else will.  Also, considering we mainly mine Doge and LTC right now, we definitely are not moving the markets very much.

Edit: allow me to answer myself - based on our current block discovery rate (low), it definitely is just dumb luck - sfire's ("the whale") mining presence just seems to smooth out our profitability's variance.
member
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I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.
It's a Chinese group - they have posted on these forums as 'sfire' - that is moving the ~20GH/s back and forth.  PoolWaffle disabled proxying to GHash as soon as they implemented the tiered bonus scheme.

@PoolWaffle: WafflePool's profitability does seem to consistently climb a bit whenever sfire leaves.  Is this really just due to luck?  Seems weird to me.

No, it is basic economic. Less dumping of coins on market at once = higher price per coin for the rest of us.
sr. member
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Any special reason their hasnt been any payouts today?
sr. member
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Jerry Jones is one ugly motherfucker.
hero member
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I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.
It's a Chinese group - they have posted on these forums as 'sfire' - that is moving the ~20GH/s back and forth.  PoolWaffle disabled proxying to GHash as soon as they implemented the tiered bonus scheme.

@PoolWaffle: WafflePool's profitability does seem to consistently climb a bit whenever sfire leaves.  Is this really just due to luck?  Seems weird to me.
newbie
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Merit: 0
What?  Waffle isn't mining on GHash.

I have no issue with being incorrect; however, there was an announcement on the main waffle site stating that it would be taking advantage of the 2x rewards. Every time the ghash.io jumps, waffle hash loses 20gh. Could be a single miner or could be proxying to ghash. I'm just going on observation and the announcement.

When we were mining on GHash, the hashrate was counted on the pool locally as well (we recorded the proxied shares as local shares). Smiley

No issue eating crow. lol.  Grin
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