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Topic: [poorbot.io] | Exchanger for Stake - fast, cheap, simple - page 2. (Read 2504 times)

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Poorbot is now up again!
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
No other casinos are planned, sorry
It'll stay mostly the same, but fees will be lowered, new coins, and few UX updates
That is new to me.
So Stake decided to change their mind and they are going to allow poorbot to work with them?
Maybe they saw how customers reacted and how forum members here complained about their removal decision.

I guess they also though twice about it because the VIP hosts and mods always send prices and/or loss back bonus via tip to the vault. Weekly stream prices are also sent via tip, for the forum giveaway as well as the bonus buys they have live on stream it's the same.
But anyway, good to hear from OP that there are no players left hanging with outstanding amounts, thanks for the reply about that.
legendary
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Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
No other casinos are planned, sorry
It'll stay mostly the same, but fees will be lowered, new coins, and few UX updates
That is new to me.
So Stake decided to change their mind and they are going to allow poorbot to work with them?
Maybe they saw how customers reacted and how forum members here complained about their removal decision.
copper member
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Merit: 8
(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin )
Is that meaning that you are coming back to make work Poorbot with some other casinos?
Can you tell us more information about that and when do you plan to release the final version?
I see on website info that Poorbot will be available end of June, and we only have few more days left.

No other casinos are planned, sorry
It'll stay mostly the same, but fees will be lowered, new coins, and few UX updates

If the funds are automatically refunded then it sounds contradictory with the claim that some people lose thousands of dollars after giving you tips. From their message, they seem convived and have some screenshot of your wrongdoings. Hard to verify as a third party who doesn't follow everything closely. I guess we can only wait and see of service is coming back up and if anyone would post some proof of any possible mistake. CMIIW.

There was only 2 tips over 4-5k USD which were delayed like a few hours, rest were refunded 30 minutes after sending.
I haven't received a message or email from anyone regarding this (well, except the 2 tips I mentioned). Anyone claiming they've not been refunded, feel free to post any evidence here, I'll look it up and show the refund transaction.
legendary
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There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
If the funds are automatically refunded then it sounds contradictory with the claim that some people lose thousands of dollars after giving you tips. From their message, they seem convived and have some screenshot of your wrongdoings. Hard to verify as a third party who doesn't follow everything closely. I guess we can only wait and see of service is coming back up and if anyone would post some proof of any possible mistake. CMIIW.
legendary
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In Search of Incredible
However, due to so many requests from users, I'll start it again with some changes. Thank you for your support and sorry for the inconvenience.
~ Fees will be lowered and some more coins will be added, and some internal tools for managing it. Thanks!
Thank you for giving us an update. Rumours had started to spread for your silence. Hopefully, the changes won't make the system complicated. Your exchanger was pretty simple to use. Users were loving it for the low fees. I guess the fees will be lowered to 1%.

Since your too fast decision to close down your bot, you might lose some of active players who used to use your exchange bot till now.
The number of users will increase more in the near future if they reduce the fee. Poorbot exchange fee is already low compared to the Dinabot.
legendary
Activity: 2086
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Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin )
Is that meaning that you are coming back to make work Poorbot with some other casinos?
Can you tell us more information about that and when do you plan to release the final version?
I see on website info that Poorbot will be available end of June, and we only have few more days left.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
What's with the funds players that were sent to you on that day when you gambled it all away? I was in chat myself on stake and saw the public outcry.
No making an accusation here since I don't know all the facts, just saw plenty of complaints? Have all the players funds been returned and/or exchanged by now?

Like I said, no accusation, just a simple question.



I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.


There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
There's a wager requirement before you can send tips, Poorbot account doesn't collect any VIP or other bonuses, and is excluded from rains.
Also Poorbot had +60k USD liquidity available at most times. I could only read the posts in this thread recently, IIRC the talks in the chat was mostly about Poorbot going away and not the alleged "exit scam".
Rest assured, there's not a single cent from the users that hasn't been returned or exchanged.

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin )

Well, to me it seems quite obvious poorbot was a non-custodial exchange... (kind of, because the keys are actually never on the hands of the gambler).Either way, It is good to see you giving some clarification on this matter, because I would have guessed there were users of this tools who were not aware of the closure and still sent some funds in order to get a shift exchange.
From what I have read, It seems you are going to continue to offer this service and relaunch it, good to know. Just wondering if the exchange rates and the fee for the service is going to stay the same as before the announcement of the bit closure or whether you intend to change the exchange fee, giving a more accesible percentage, at least for a limited period of time.
legendary
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There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
There's a wager requirement before you can send tips, Poorbot account doesn't collect any VIP or other bonuses, and is excluded from rains.
Also Poorbot had +60k USD liquidity available at most times. I could only read the posts in this thread recently, IIRC the talks in the chat was mostly about Poorbot going away and not the alleged "exit scam".
Rest assured, there's not a single cent from the users that hasn't been returned or exchanged.

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin )
Good to see that your clarification and nice to hear that there is no one's fund is affected, at least I do not see any complaint against you till now.
Just visited your website and I read that your service will be back by the end of this month which is another good news.
Lesson learned for you from this experience, do not take decision too fast as there is still time to think.
Since your too fast decision to close down your bot, you might lose some of active players who used to use your exchange bot till now.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
We dont know the full story and we didnt hear anything back from poorbot owner.
If he spend his own balance and money from other people than I dont see any problem with that.
I dont know how I would react in his situation but I wouldnt be happy with stake announcement.

Yes it is not a problem if what he lost is fully his own money but if there are also some money that he should send back to stake's users. No valid complaint until now against poorbot, tried to find information at Stake's dedicated forum but seems that there is no post about poorbot to. Hopefully no one is affected by what was done by poorbot or in other word is that poorbot lost all his money only.
I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.


With the OP's detailed explanation above, it's clear now that the whole issue clearly wasn't really what we all thought It was, and it's also clear now that most of us had assumed wrongly.
Like op explained, he said those who sent funds to the bot got it back after 30 minutes, 30 minutes can seem like it's hours in some situations, so it's possible that those who sent fund and didn't have it exchanged started complaining about being scammed, and the news of poorbot closing down their exchange services made the whole issue escalate the more.
But than after 30 minutes, the funds returned back to the wallet it was sent from, but the affected users probably were too ashamed to go back to the chat and let everyone know that their funds had been returned.
We see things like this quite often on this forum where a user create a scam accusation against a casinos, and after the issue is resolved, the user never bother to come back and let other forum users know that their issue with the casino has been resolved, this us mostly common with forum newbies.

Anyways, I am happy that poorbot is coming back even better than before, kudos to op and good luck again.
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What's with the funds players that were sent to you on that day when you gambled it all away? I was in chat myself on stake and saw the public outcry.
No making an accusation here since I don't know all the facts, just saw plenty of complaints? Have all the players funds been returned and/or exchanged by now?

Like I said, no accusation, just a simple question.



I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.


There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
There's a wager requirement before you can send tips, Poorbot account doesn't collect any VIP or other bonuses, and is excluded from rains.
Also Poorbot had +60k USD liquidity available at most times. I could only read the posts in this thread recently, IIRC the talks in the chat was mostly about Poorbot going away and not the alleged "exit scam".
Rest assured, there's not a single cent from the users that hasn't been returned or exchanged.

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin )
hero member
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We dont know the full story and we didnt hear anything back from poorbot owner.
If he spend his own balance and money from other people than I dont see any problem with that.
I dont know how I would react in his situation but I wouldnt be happy with stake announcement.

Yes it is not a problem if what he lost is fully his own money but if there are also some money that he should send back to stake's users. No valid complaint until now against poorbot, tried to find information at Stake's dedicated forum but seems that there is no post about poorbot to. Hopefully no one is affected by what was done by poorbot or in other word is that poorbot lost all his money only.
I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.

hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 828
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Hi, sorry for leaving you guys in the dark. There was words going around stake is removing tipping so poorbot was temporarily closed. However they reverted this decision and I had previously decided to not get it back up.
However, due to so many requests from users, I'll start it again with some changes. Thank you for your support and sorry for the inconvenience.
Poorbot will be back in end of this month. Fees will be lowered and some more coins will be added, and some internal tools for managing it. Thanks!

What's with the funds players that were sent to you on that day when you gambled it all away? I was in chat myself on stake and saw the public outcry.
No making an accusation here since I don't know all the facts, just saw plenty of complaints? Have all the players funds been returned and/or exchanged by now?

Like I said, no accusation, just a simple question.

copper member
Activity: 34
Merit: 8
Hi, sorry for leaving you guys in the dark. There was words going around stake is removing tipping so poorbot was temporarily closed. However they reverted this decision and I had previously decided to not get it back up.
However, due to so many requests from users, I'll start it again with some changes. Thank you for your support and sorry for the inconvenience.
Poorbot will be back in end of this month. Fees will be lowered and some more coins will be added, and some internal tools for managing it. Thanks!
hero member
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And should I say that poorbot have possibly or initially had plans to quit offering their exchange services, but were just looking for a good opportunity and something to use as an excuse? Very possible if am asked.
They don't have plans of quitting the service until they've seen the news about stopping the tipping on the platform. But anyway, with all of these speculations, anything is possible.

And as for those who kept sending tips even after poorbot have announced here and on their site that they are closing their services, I honestly fault and blame them for not being current to informations regarding a service they are using, if poorbot hadn't announced closing down their exchange service, this would have been a separate issue altogether.
This happens when the users aren't updated on what happened. Maybe those users are just too lazy to visit the service threads of poorbot and get some updates on what actually has happened.

I guess that this should be a norm for every user that actually uses any kind of service. We have to keep up to date whether they have updates or none. Just do normal checks and doing it as a practice.
legendary
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I was flooded with messages that day. Some were sending screenshots with his 2-4k usd loosing bets, some were asking for help to contact him, and some even pretended, they "accidentally" confused usernames, so maybe Dinabot could refund tips they sent to poorbot? Smiley
Can you post some screenshot as proof of those users claim? We haven't seen any complaint from any user of Stake here or in the Stake forum. I had sent an email to Poorbot team, but looks like they aren't interested to give any update from themselves. I'm not taking the side of Poorbot here, but it is the fault of those users who kept sending tips to Poorbot account after it started showing the error message.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Why everyone is just guessing and no one tells the full story?

Thousands of Stake players in chat saw publicly, how poorbot freaked out after rumors about tips being removed, and ripped whole his balance in rage bets. Thousands of dollars were just gambled away, without even waiting for an official announcement from Stake. And then owner simply disappeared, without even a word here or anywhere, while users kept sending tips to him.

Damn, that's a tough story.
I also read it in the chat but I actually didn't even know about poorbot, just used the other one in the past.
It's such a strange behaviour over news that haven't even been set in place yet. And yeah, as we all know now stake made a u-turn to not ban tipping.
But why would they rage bet the funds away when they could just withdraw them, doesn't make any sense.

Well, even right from the beginning of this whole stake banning Tipping, and poorbot immediately announcing that they will be closing their exchange services even when an official statement hasn't been released by stake management yet, I wouldnt say that I knew something was phishy, but I really felt that poorbot's decision to quit their exchange service as a result of the speculated or rumored ban was too hasty, even their competitor (dinobot - sorry if I get the spelling wrong) didn't panic, but continued to provide their service after the rumor.

And should I say that poorbot have possibly or initially had plans to quit offering their exchange services, but were just looking for a good opportunity and something to use as an excuse? Very possible if am asked.

And as for those who kept sending tips even after poorbot have announced here and on their site that they are closing their services, I honestly fault and blame them for not being current to informations regarding a service they are using, if poorbot hadn't announced closing down their exchange service, this would have been a separate issue altogether.
legendary
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We dont know the full story and we didnt hear anything back from poorbot owner.
If he spend his own balance and money from other people than I dont see any problem with that.
I dont know how I would react in his situation but I wouldnt be happy with stake announcement.

Yes it is not a problem if what he lost is fully his own money but if there are also some money that he should send back to stake's users. No valid complaint until now against poorbot, tried to find information at Stake's dedicated forum but seems that there is no post about poorbot to. Hopefully no one is affected by what was done by poorbot or in other word is that poorbot lost all his money only.
legendary
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But why would they rage bet the funds away when they could just withdraw them, doesn't make any sense.
I personally know somebody who makes dumb decisions when rage consumes him, so I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else does the same thing. I'd suggest anyone who loses their money to post a scam accusation as mentioned above so we can at least give his account a tag. OP seems to have been online a few days ago, not sure why he didn't post a reply or anything on this thread though.
legendary
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Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
Why everyone is just guessing and no one tells the full story?

Thousands of Stake players in chat saw publicly, how poorbot freaked out after rumors about tips being removed, and ripped whole his balance in rage bets. Thousands of dollars were just gambled away, without even waiting for an official announcement from Stake. And then owner simply disappeared, without even a word here or anywhere, while users kept sending tips to him.
We dont know the full story and we didnt hear anything back from poorbot owner.
If he spend his own balance and not money from other people than I dont see any problem with that.
I dont know how I would react in his situation but I wouldnt be happy with stake announcement.
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