[poorbot.io] | Exchanger for Stake - fast, cheap, simple - page 2.

Mahdirakib

legendary

Activity: 1946

Merit: 1026

In Search of Incredible

Quote from: poorbot on June 30, 2024, 11:52:16 AM

Poorbot is now up again!

Welcome back again! You have kept your promise and added 4 more coins. The fee has been also reduced to 0.8%, it was 1.2% before.

Quote from: joniboini on July 01, 2024, 07:57:25 PM

If Stake changed their mind again wouldn't it be troublesome?

Why there will be troublesome? Poorbot will shut down again if Eddie decides to disable the tip feature completely. This exchanger isn't a big profitable business for the OP which might cause troublesome for him.

Bitinity

legendary

Activity: 3066

Merit: 1312

Quote from: joniboini on July 01, 2024, 07:57:25 PM

Out of curiosity, why are there no plans to support other casinos with similar features?

I guess it is because of some possible reasons, such as:

There are not many casinos with similar huge number of active players like what what we can see on Stake.
Some other casinos already had their own internal exchange so it is impossible for 3rd party exchange bot to operate
Some casinos may not accept 3rd party exchange bot because of their own reason

Quote from: joniboini on July 01, 2024, 07:57:25 PM

If Stake changed their mind again wouldn't it be troublesome?

If it is happened, there is nothing he can do except accept the fact that he should close the service but I think it will not be troublesome and it may also happen in other casinos (if poorbot is also exist in other casinos). I'd say it is the risk or the consequence of being 3rd party service.

joniboini

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 1789

Quote from: poorbot on June 25, 2024, 02:44:44 PM

There was only 2 tips over 4-5k USD which were delayed like a few hours, rest were refunded 30 minutes after sending.
I haven't received a message or email from anyone regarding this (well, except the 2 tips I mentioned). Anyone claiming they've not been refunded, feel free to post any evidence here, I'll look it up and show the refund transaction.

That's good to hear. Previous posts sound like you receive tips and then use them to gamble on a casino straight away. Can't really verify anything if the claims don't give further proof of that.

I noticed a new stat showing how much has been exchanged in the past 24 hours on the website. It's around 6k when I'm writing this, it sounds like a decent number of users are still using the service. Out of curiosity, why are there no plans to support other casinos with similar features? If Stake changed their mind again wouldn't it be troublesome?

poorbot

copper member

Activity: 34

Merit: 8

Poorbot is now up again!

AHOYBRAUSE

hero member

Activity: 798

Merit: 896

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: notblox1 on June 25, 2024, 05:09:35 PM

Quote from: poorbot on June 25, 2024, 02:44:44 PM

No other casinos are planned, sorry
It'll stay mostly the same, but fees will be lowered, new coins, and few UX updates

That is new to me.
So Stake decided to change their mind and they are going to allow poorbot to work with them?
Maybe they saw how customers reacted and how forum members here complained about their removal decision.

I guess they also though twice about it because the VIP hosts and mods always send prices and/or loss back bonus via tip to the vault. Weekly stream prices are also sent via tip, for the forum giveaway as well as the bonus buys they have live on stream it's the same.
But anyway, good to hear from OP that there are no players left hanging with outstanding amounts, thanks for the reply about that.

notblox1

legendary

Activity: 2086

Merit: 1282

Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1

Quote from: poorbot on June 25, 2024, 02:44:44 PM

No other casinos are planned, sorry
It'll stay mostly the same, but fees will be lowered, new coins, and few UX updates

That is new to me.
So Stake decided to change their mind and they are going to allow poorbot to work with them?
Maybe they saw how customers reacted and how forum members here complained about their removal decision.

poorbot

copper member

Activity: 34

Merit: 8

Quote from: notblox1 on June 24, 2024, 12:18:30 PM

Quote from: poorbot on June 23, 2024, 06:18:46 PM

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin

)

Is that meaning that you are coming back to make work Poorbot with some other casinos?
Can you tell us more information about that and when do you plan to release the final version?
I see on website info that Poorbot will be available end of June, and we only have few more days left.

No other casinos are planned, sorry
It'll stay mostly the same, but fees will be lowered, new coins, and few UX updates

Quote from: joniboini on June 24, 2024, 10:44:26 PM

If the funds are automatically refunded then it sounds contradictory with the claim that some people lose thousands of dollars after giving you tips. From their message, they seem convived and have some screenshot of your wrongdoings. Hard to verify as a third party who doesn't follow everything closely. I guess we can only wait and see of service is coming back up and if anyone would post some proof of any possible mistake. CMIIW.

There was only 2 tips over 4-5k USD which were delayed like a few hours, rest were refunded 30 minutes after sending.
I haven't received a message or email from anyone regarding this (well, except the 2 tips I mentioned). Anyone claiming they've not been refunded, feel free to post any evidence here, I'll look it up and show the refund transaction.

joniboini

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 1789

Quote from: poorbot on June 23, 2024, 06:18:46 PM

There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.

If the funds are automatically refunded then it sounds contradictory with the claim that some people lose thousands of dollars after giving you tips. From their message, they seem convived and have some screenshot of your wrongdoings. Hard to verify as a third party who doesn't follow everything closely. I guess we can only wait and see of service is coming back up and if anyone would post some proof of any possible mistake. CMIIW.

Mahdirakib

legendary

Activity: 1946

Merit: 1026

In Search of Incredible

Quote from: poorbot on June 22, 2024, 02:48:08 PM

However, due to so many requests from users, I'll start it again with some changes. Thank you for your support and sorry for the inconvenience.
~ Fees will be lowered and some more coins will be added, and some internal tools for managing it. Thanks!

Thank you for giving us an update. Rumours had started to spread for your silence. Hopefully, the changes won't make the system complicated. Your exchanger was pretty simple to use. Users were loving it for the low fees. I guess the fees will be lowered to 1%.

Quote from: panjul07 on June 24, 2024, 05:57:24 AM

Since your too fast decision to close down your bot, you might lose some of active players who used to use your exchange bot till now.

The number of users will increase more in the near future if they reduce the fee. Poorbot exchange fee is already low compared to the Dinabot.

notblox1

legendary

Activity: 2086

Merit: 1282

Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1

Quote from: poorbot on June 23, 2024, 06:18:46 PM

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin

)

Is that meaning that you are coming back to make work Poorbot with some other casinos?
Can you tell us more information about that and when do you plan to release the final version?
I see on website info that Poorbot will be available end of June, and we only have few more days left.

Hispo

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 2025

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: poorbot on June 23, 2024, 06:18:46 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on June 22, 2024, 11:45:02 PM

What's with the funds players that were sent to you on that day when you gambled it all away? I was in chat myself on stake and saw the public outcry.
No making an accusation here since I don't know all the facts, just saw plenty of complaints? Have all the players funds been returned and/or exchanged by now?

Like I said, no accusation, just a simple question.

Quote from: DaNNy001 on June 22, 2024, 11:56:15 PM

I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.

There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
There's a wager requirement before you can send tips, Poorbot account doesn't collect any VIP or other bonuses, and is excluded from rains.
Also Poorbot had +60k USD liquidity available at most times. I could only read the posts in this thread recently, IIRC the talks in the chat was mostly about Poorbot going away and not the alleged "exit scam".
Rest assured, there's not a single cent from the users that hasn't been returned or exchanged.

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin

)

Well, to me it seems quite obvious poorbot was a non-custodial exchange... (kind of, because the keys are actually never on the hands of the gambler).Either way, It is good to see you giving some clarification on this matter, because I would have guessed there were users of this tools who were not aware of the closure and still sent some funds in order to get a shift exchange.
From what I have read, It seems you are going to continue to offer this service and relaunch it, good to know. Just wondering if the exchange rates and the fee for the service is going to stay the same as before the announcement of the bit closure or whether you intend to change the exchange fee, giving a more accesible percentage, at least for a limited period of time.

panjul07

legendary

Activity: 3500

Merit: 1354

Quote from: poorbot on June 23, 2024, 06:18:46 PM

There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
There's a wager requirement before you can send tips, Poorbot account doesn't collect any VIP or other bonuses, and is excluded from rains.
Also Poorbot had +60k USD liquidity available at most times. I could only read the posts in this thread recently, IIRC the talks in the chat was mostly about Poorbot going away and not the alleged "exit scam".
Rest assured, there's not a single cent from the users that hasn't been returned or exchanged.

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin

)

Good to see that your clarification and nice to hear that there is no one's fund is affected, at least I do not see any complaint against you till now.
Just visited your website and I read that your service will be back by the end of this month which is another good news.
Lesson learned for you from this experience, do not take decision too fast as there is still time to think.
Since your too fast decision to close down your bot, you might lose some of active players who used to use your exchange bot till now.

Fivestar4everMVP

legendary

Activity: 2422

Merit: 1083

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: DaNNy001 on June 22, 2024, 11:56:15 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on June 11, 2024, 03:05:19 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on June 10, 2024, 06:06:08 AM

We dont know the full story and we didnt hear anything back from poorbot owner.
If he spend his own balance and money from other people than I dont see any problem with that.
I dont know how I would react in his situation but I wouldnt be happy with stake announcement.

Yes it is not a problem if what he lost is fully his own money but if there are also some money that he should send back to stake's users. No valid complaint until now against poorbot, tried to find information at Stake's dedicated forum but seems that there is no post about poorbot to. Hopefully no one is affected by what was done by poorbot or in other word is that poorbot lost all his money only.

I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.

With the OP's detailed explanation above, it's clear now that the whole issue clearly wasn't really what we all thought It was, and it's also clear now that most of us had assumed wrongly.
Like op explained, he said those who sent funds to the bot got it back after 30 minutes, 30 minutes can seem like it's hours in some situations, so it's possible that those who sent fund and didn't have it exchanged started complaining about being scammed, and the news of poorbot closing down their exchange services made the whole issue escalate the more.
But than after 30 minutes, the funds returned back to the wallet it was sent from, but the affected users probably were too ashamed to go back to the chat and let everyone know that their funds had been returned.
We see things like this quite often on this forum where a user create a scam accusation against a casinos, and after the issue is resolved, the user never bother to come back and let other forum users know that their issue with the casino has been resolved, this us mostly common with forum newbies.

Anyways, I am happy that poorbot is coming back even better than before, kudos to op and good luck again.

poorbot

copper member

Activity: 34

Merit: 8

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on June 22, 2024, 11:45:02 PM

What's with the funds players that were sent to you on that day when you gambled it all away? I was in chat myself on stake and saw the public outcry.
No making an accusation here since I don't know all the facts, just saw plenty of complaints? Have all the players funds been returned and/or exchanged by now?

Like I said, no accusation, just a simple question.

Quote from: DaNNy001 on June 22, 2024, 11:56:15 PM

I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.

There were no user funds "gambled away" or kept, they were all refunded automatically in 30 mins after the bot has stopped working. Unlike others Poorbot is an instant exchanger so we don't hold customer funds.
There's a wager requirement before you can send tips, Poorbot account doesn't collect any VIP or other bonuses, and is excluded from rains.
Also Poorbot had +60k USD liquidity available at most times. I could only read the posts in this thread recently, IIRC the talks in the chat was mostly about Poorbot going away and not the alleged "exit scam".
Rest assured, there's not a single cent from the users that hasn't been returned or exchanged.

(also, apologies for not being able to reply to all replies individually, busy making Poorbot better Grin

)

DaNNy001

hero member

Activity: 644

Merit: 520

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Bitinity on June 11, 2024, 03:05:19 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on June 10, 2024, 06:06:08 AM

We dont know the full story and we didnt hear anything back from poorbot owner.
If he spend his own balance and money from other people than I dont see any problem with that.
I dont know how I would react in his situation but I wouldnt be happy with stake announcement.

Yes it is not a problem if what he lost is fully his own money but if there are also some money that he should send back to stake's users. No valid complaint until now against poorbot, tried to find information at Stake's dedicated forum but seems that there is no post about poorbot to. Hopefully no one is affected by what was done by poorbot or in other word is that poorbot lost all his money only.

I think that can be the only explanation why stake has offered any complains about the issue, because if some of the funds lost were actually tied to stake users then I think by an accusation or some sort of thread would have been actively discussed

But it's seems the whole issue wasn't actually what we taught as the poorbet owner himself has cleared the air and hopefully they would restart it as he states and with lowered fee too.

AHOYBRAUSE

hero member

Activity: 798

Merit: 896

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: poorbot on June 22, 2024, 02:48:08 PM

Hi, sorry for leaving you guys in the dark. There was words going around stake is removing tipping so poorbot was temporarily closed. However they reverted this decision and I had previously decided to not get it back up.
However, due to so many requests from users, I'll start it again with some changes. Thank you for your support and sorry for the inconvenience.
Poorbot will be back in end of this month. Fees will be lowered and some more coins will be added, and some internal tools for managing it. Thanks!

What's with the funds players that were sent to you on that day when you gambled it all away? I was in chat myself on stake and saw the public outcry.
No making an accusation here since I don't know all the facts, just saw plenty of complaints? Have all the players funds been returned and/or exchanged by now?

Like I said, no accusation, just a simple question.

poorbot

copper member

Activity: 34

Merit: 8

Hi, sorry for leaving you guys in the dark. There was words going around stake is removing tipping so poorbot was temporarily closed. However they reverted this decision and I had previously decided to not get it back up.
However, due to so many requests from users, I'll start it again with some changes. Thank you for your support and sorry for the inconvenience.
Poorbot will be back in end of this month. Fees will be lowered and some more coins will be added, and some internal tools for managing it. Thanks!

sunsilk

hero member

Activity: 3038

Merit: 634

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 11, 2024, 09:26:43 AM

And should I say that poorbot have possibly or initially had plans to quit offering their exchange services, but were just looking for a good opportunity and something to use as an excuse? Very possible if am asked.

They don't have plans of quitting the service until they've seen the news about stopping the tipping on the platform. But anyway, with all of these speculations, anything is possible.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 11, 2024, 09:26:43 AM

And as for those who kept sending tips even after poorbot have announced here and on their site that they are closing their services, I honestly fault and blame them for not being current to informations regarding a service they are using, if poorbot hadn't announced closing down their exchange service, this would have been a separate issue altogether.

This happens when the users aren't updated on what happened. Maybe those users are just too lazy to visit the service threads of poorbot and get some updates on what actually has happened.

I guess that this should be a norm for every user that actually uses any kind of service. We have to keep up to date whether they have updates or none. Just do normal checks and doing it as a practice.

Mahdirakib

legendary

Activity: 1946

Merit: 1026

In Search of Incredible

Quote from: lupandina on June 07, 2024, 02:39:58 PM

I was flooded with messages that day. Some were sending screenshots with his 2-4k usd loosing bets, some were asking for help to contact him, and some even pretended, they "accidentally" confused usernames, so maybe Dinabot could refund tips they sent to poorbot?

Can you post some screenshot as proof of those users claim? We haven't seen any complaint from any user of Stake here or in the Stake forum. I had sent an email to Poorbot team, but looks like they aren't interested to give any update from themselves. I'm not taking the side of Poorbot here, but it is the fault of those users who kept sending tips to Poorbot account after it started showing the error message.

Fivestar4everMVP

legendary

Activity: 2422

Merit: 1083

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on June 08, 2024, 09:14:47 PM

Quote from: lupandina on June 07, 2024, 12:39:31 PM

Why everyone is just guessing and no one tells the full story?

Thousands of Stake players in chat saw publicly, how poorbot freaked out after rumors about tips being removed, and ripped whole his balance in rage bets. Thousands of dollars were just gambled away, without even waiting for an official announcement from Stake. And then owner simply disappeared, without even a word here or anywhere, while users kept sending tips to him.

Damn, that's a tough story.
I also read it in the chat but I actually didn't even know about poorbot, just used the other one in the past.
It's such a strange behaviour over news that haven't even been set in place yet. And yeah, as we all know now stake made a u-turn to not ban tipping.
But why would they rage bet the funds away when they could just withdraw them, doesn't make any sense.

Well, even right from the beginning of this whole stake banning Tipping, and poorbot immediately announcing that they will be closing their exchange services even when an official statement hasn't been released by stake management yet, I wouldnt say that I knew something was phishy, but I really felt that poorbot's decision to quit their exchange service as a result of the speculated or rumored ban was too hasty, even their competitor (dinobot - sorry if I get the spelling wrong) didn't panic, but continued to provide their service after the rumor.

And should I say that poorbot have possibly or initially had plans to quit offering their exchange services, but were just looking for a good opportunity and something to use as an excuse? Very possible if am asked.

And as for those who kept sending tips even after poorbot have announced here and on their site that they are closing their services, I honestly fault and blame them for not being current to informations regarding a service they are using, if poorbot hadn't announced closing down their exchange service, this would have been a separate issue altogether.

Topic: [poorbot.io] | Exchanger for Stake - fast, cheap, simple - page 2. (Read 2556 times)