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Quote from: Lida93 on December 26, 2024, 12:13:19 PM

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It seems as if the sporting Lisbon players are still struggling to get over the sudden departure of their former coach who left the club for Manchester United and since they haven't been themselves. Prior to this time they were in control of the league and they also performed very well in the Champions League too.
But right now they are struggling to survive and as a result they are now closely tied in points with Porto and Benfica which means they would have to work extra hard to regain their place at the top, and also, the new manager has to woo the players to his side thereby getting the allegiance of the entire players so that they can all work together as team to get their desired results for the success of the club.

It only requires adaptation and also understanding between the players and the coach, but unfortunately Joao Pereira became Amorim replacement coach who is now considered to have poor performance and is the reason for Sporting declining performance by suffering several defeats and the team management decided to dismiss him more quickly and they brought in Rui Borges as the new coach.
I very curious about how the future developments will be whether Sporting can perform well again under Rui Borges or will it be the same with slow development and still experience several more significant setbacks, quite surprised by all this because the change of coach was very fast without waiting for more definite results until the end of the season.

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Sporting Lisbon are likely to regret losing Ruben Amorim to Manchester United. Not only has Amorim not yet found what he wants at United, but Sporting have gone downhill without him. Everything was going well, but by changing manager in the middle of the season, they put a spoke in the wheel of a bicycle that was going smoothly. Maybe that will be a reason they will lose the title to Benfica (or Porto?) this season. I don't expect much from Rui Borges. In 2 days Sporting will play Benfica, a very interesting timing for this big match. I hope Sporting can recover quickly and become champions again.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 26, 2024, 06:17:28 AM

Quote from: Slow death on December 25, 2024, 09:19:51 PM

I'm reading a news that Sporting's coach was fired and Rui Borges was hired to replace him.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1872087512665264179

If I'm not mistaken, he's the current coach of Vitória SC. Looking at Sporting's great form and the complex situation that Sporting is in, and then looking at Vitória SC's current performance, which has only won one of its last 5 games, I honestly can't understand why Sporting's management hired Rui Borges.

Wow, that's what I call fresh news, I hadn't seen it yet Cheesy

I don't understand how João Pereira couldn't follow up on Rúben Amorim's work
Obviously it can't be that easy, but just getting on with the job seems different from managing a team that you have to set up and that is in a bad position in the league.
It's a shame it didn't work out

More uncertainty for Sporting now
I thought Abel Ferreira might be hired, but I suspect Palmeiras did everything they could not to lose the coach to Sporting.

We have just 8 games for the Joao Pereira as coach of Sporting C which have just 3 wins, so management sacked him now we have new coach of club as Rubem Amorim exit having deep impact on performance of Sporting CP they are losing games in Champions League and also have seconds pot in Liga Portugal which is not acceptable for the club management.

43 years old Rui Borges who was coach of Vitoria Guimaraes now going to be taken this spot hopefully we will be having some improvement as he was doing good job at Vitoria Guimaraes in last few months after taking job of as coach here we have next game against Benfica which is now leading the league table by 1 point and Porto is on level in points.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on December 23, 2024, 01:45:20 AM

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Another poor game from Sporting. Game against Gil Vicente ended 0:0 and they failed to score against team that parked a bus. They had ball posession, they made plenty of shots, but not dangerous enough to score a goal. Sporting board should take some actions to save season before it's not too late.
Already tomorrow Benfica can reach 1st place if they will beat Estoril.

Can poor patterns in Sporting get better anytime soon? I doubt Sporting could improve if the board did not address their issues during the January transfer window. But players are not the major issue with this squad, the reason they are not winning games is obvious: the new manager is incapable of replacing Amorim spots in the team. If Sporting can't defeat a club in the league's middle or bottom, I believe they will be unable to beat any opponents this season. They just changed managers, and Sporting players lack the skills to convert their chances into goals; they had 7 shots on goal against Gil Vicente, but the match ended in a draw.

However, Sporting has the same number of points as Porto, and if Benfica defeats Estoril today, they will go to the top of the table. Sporting is putting their position at risk in order to finish first in the league; it appears that another team will win the Portuguese league this season since we are not confident in Sporing's performance right now. Sporting performed far better than Porto this season under Amorim, while Porto beat Moreirense, whom Sporting had lost to in the previous three league matches.

It seems as if the sporting Lisbon players are still struggling to get over the sudden departure of their former coach who left the club for Manchester United and since they haven't been themselves. Prior to this time they were in control of the league and they also performed very well in the Champions League too.
But right now they are struggling to survive and as a result they are now closely tied in points with Porto and Benfica which means they would have to work extra hard to regain their place at the top, and also, the new manager has to woo the players to his side thereby getting the allegiance of the entire players so that they can all work together as team to get their desired results for the success of the club.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 25, 2024, 09:45:02 AM

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I'm also thinking about betting on this game, I intend to bet on Benfica to win. But the problem of Benfica having a bad performance away from home makes me not very confident in betting on Benfica to win. It's true that in the last 2 games that Benfica played away from home, they managed to get a good result, but even if Sporting is not doing well, they could still get a draw and I don't want to choose "Draw or SL Benfica" because the odds are @1.50 while if I chose Benfica to win it has odds of @2.55. I'm thinking about placing a very low amount on Benfica to win.

Sporting are in a bad phase at the moment, but they'll be playing at home
It's a very difficult match to predict.

Maybe +2 goals, but it's not my kind of bet Huh

I tried a multiple on Braga winning + a draw or Sporting winning, with odds of 2.02
but I'm still not that confident Tongue

There are many changes that have occurred at Sporting, it is a shame that the big team now has some heavy burdens in getting through the start of the season. Sporting's condition is very doubtful that in this match the opponent will take this opportunity even though Sporting is playing at home.
There is still a definite need to consider placing bets on Sporting , The result of this match will be difficult to predict, whether it will be +2 goals or more. I will not bet this time but I will watch the match to be able to predict the next match.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 25, 2024, 09:19:51 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on December 25, 2024, 09:45:02 AM

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I'm reading a news that Sporting's coach was fired and Rui Borges was hired to replace him.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1872087512665264179

If I'm not mistaken, he's the current coach of Vitória SC. Looking at Sporting's great form and the complex situation that Sporting is in, and then looking at Vitória SC's current performance, which has only won one of its last 5 games, I honestly can't understand why Sporting's management hired Rui Borges.

Wow, that's what I call fresh news, I hadn't seen it yet Cheesy

I don't understand how João Pereira couldn't follow up on Rúben Amorim's work
Obviously it can't be that easy, but just getting on with the job seems different from managing a team that you have to set up and that is in a bad position in the league.
It's a shame it didn't work out

More uncertainty for Sporting now
I thought Abel Ferreira might be hired, but I suspect Palmeiras did everything they could not to lose the coach to Sporting.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 25, 2024, 09:45:02 AM

Quote from: Slow death on December 24, 2024, 03:23:29 PM

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I'm also thinking about betting on this game, I intend to bet on Benfica to win. But the problem of Benfica having a bad performance away from home makes me not very confident in betting on Benfica to win. It's true that in the last 2 games that Benfica played away from home, they managed to get a good result, but even if Sporting is not doing well, they could still get a draw and I don't want to choose "Draw or SL Benfica" because the odds are @1.50 while if I chose Benfica to win it has odds of @2.55. I'm thinking about placing a very low amount on Benfica to win.

Sporting are in a bad phase at the moment, but they'll be playing at home
It's a very difficult match to predict.

Maybe +2 goals, but it's not my kind of bet Huh

I tried a multiple on Braga winning + a draw or Sporting winning, with odds of 2.02
but I'm still not that confident Tongue

I'm reading a news that Sporting's coach was fired and Rui Borges was hired to replace him.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1872087512665264179

If I'm not mistaken, he's the current coach of Vitória SC. Looking at Sporting's great form and the complex situation that Sporting is in, and then looking at Vitória SC's current performance, which has only won one of its last 5 games, I honestly can't understand why Sporting's management hired Rui Borges.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 24, 2024, 03:23:29 PM

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I'm also thinking about betting on this game, I intend to bet on Benfica to win. But the problem of Benfica having a bad performance away from home makes me not very confident in betting on Benfica to win. It's true that in the last 2 games that Benfica played away from home, they managed to get a good result, but even if Sporting is not doing well, they could still get a draw and I don't want to choose "Draw or SL Benfica" because the odds are @1.50 while if I chose Benfica to win it has odds of @2.55. I'm thinking about placing a very low amount on Benfica to win.

Sporting are in a bad phase at the moment, but they'll be playing at home
It's a very difficult match to predict.

Maybe +2 goals, but it's not my kind of bet Huh

I tried a multiple on Braga winning + a draw or Sporting winning, with odds of 2.02
but I'm still not that confident Tongue

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MATCH DAY 15 - RESULTS:
Estrela Amadora 1-0

Rio Ave
Benfica 3-0

Estoril

Vit. Guimarães 2-2

Nacional

Gil Vicente 0-0

Sporting

Santa Clara 0-2 Braga

Moreirense 0-3 Porto

Boavista 0-0

AVS

Famalicão 1-2 Farense
Casa Pia 3-1

Arouca

After the last round, the championship is in full swing, with the three top teams separated by just one point. Porto continues to have very unstable games, Benfica, despite not playing well, has been winning games, and Sporting is facing a crisis after the departure of coach Amorim (it seems that he has now hired the coach of Vitoria Guimarães). In the next round we will have the great Lisbon derby: Sporting vs Benfica. How will everything turn out?

MATCH DAY 16:
^{27.12. 20:15}

Arouca vs

Gil Vicente
^{28.12. 15:30}

AVS vs

Estrela Amadora
^{28.12. 18:00}

Estoril vs

Moreirense
^{28.12. 20:30}

Porto vs

Boavista
^{29.12. 15:30}

Farense vs

Vit. Guimarães
^{29.12. 15:30}

Rio Ave vs

Nacional
^{29.12. 18:00}

Braga vs

Casa Pia
^{29.12. 20:30}

Sporting vs

Benfica
^{30.12. 20:15}

Famalicão vs

Santa Clara
_{Info: day.month. time (Lisbon time)}

LEADERBOARD:

POS	Team	PLD	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	PTS
1	Benfica	15	12	2	1	37	8	29	38
2	Sporting	15	12	1	2	43	10	33	37
3	Porto	15	12	1	2	36	9	27	37
4	Braga	15	8	4	3	27	16	11	28
5	Santa Clara	15	9	0	6	16	15	1	27
6	Vit. Guimarães	15	6	5	4	20	16	4	23
7	Casa Pia	15	5	5	5	16	18	-2	20
8	Moreirense	15	6	2	7	19	22	-3	20
9	Famalicão	15	4	7	4	18	17	1	19
10	Gil Vicente	15	4	5	6	17	24	-7	17
11	Rio Ave	15	4	4	7	15	26	-11	16
12	Estrela Amadora	15	4	3	8	13	24	-11	15
13	Estoril	15	3	5	7	12	24	-12	14
14	Nacional	15	3	4	8	10	21	-11	13
15	AVS	15	2	7	6	11	22	-11	13
16	Boavista	15	2	6	7	10	19	-9	12
17	Farense	15	3	3	9	9	21	-12	12
18	Arouca	15	3	2	10	9	26	-17	11

___
POS - League Position, PLD - Games Played, PTS - Points Earned
W - Games Won, L - Games Lost, D - Games Drawn
GD - Goal Difference, GF - Goal For, GA - Goal Against

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 24, 2024, 12:09:06 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 24, 2024, 07:29:35 AM

I saw the case of Botafogo in the past and you are right, and the same scenario and now that Benfica won the game against Estoril, Sporting's situation has worsened because they are now in second place and not in first place and it will not take long for Sporting fans to start demanding the coach's dismissal. Unfortunately this coach will not have an easy life, he was unlucky to take the place of someone who managed to bring the team a title and they were close to winning another title and now they are starting to get far from the title. Sporting fans will not stop criticizing the coach if in the next games he has bad results while Benfica stays at the top.

Apart from the Portuguese League, I was very confident that Sporting could make an excellent Champions League run, perhaps reaching a semi-final, and they had a great chance, with Gyökeres scoring a lot of goals
Unfortunately, that season in the Champions League may also have been lost Tongue

The next league match is Sporting vs Benfica Shocked

It could be a great chance for Sporting to at least win and finish the year in first place again

I'm thinking about betting on this game, it could be very difficult but with very good odds after Sporting lost their performance.

I'm also thinking about betting on this game, I intend to bet on Benfica to win. But the problem of Benfica having a bad performance away from home makes me not very confident in betting on Benfica to win. It's true that in the last 2 games that Benfica played away from home, they managed to get a good result, but even if Sporting is not doing well, they could still get a draw and I don't want to choose "Draw or SL Benfica" because the odds are @1.50 while if I chose Benfica to win it has odds of @2.55. I'm thinking about placing a very low amount on Benfica to win.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 24, 2024, 12:09:06 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 24, 2024, 07:29:35 AM

I saw the case of Botafogo in the past and you are right, and the same scenario and now that Benfica won the game against Estoril, Sporting's situation has worsened because they are now in second place and not in first place and it will not take long for Sporting fans to start demanding the coach's dismissal. Unfortunately this coach will not have an easy life, he was unlucky to take the place of someone who managed to bring the team a title and they were close to winning another title and now they are starting to get far from the title. Sporting fans will not stop criticizing the coach if in the next games he has bad results while Benfica stays at the top.

Apart from the Portuguese League, I was very confident that Sporting could make an excellent Champions League run, perhaps reaching a semi-final, and they had a great chance, with Gyökeres scoring a lot of goals
Unfortunately, that season in the Champions League may also have been lost Tongue

The next league match is Sporting vs Benfica Shocked

It could be a great chance for Sporting to at least win and finish the year in first place again

I'm thinking about betting on this game, it could be very difficult but with very good odds after Sporting lost their performance.

The race for the lead is very exciting. Benfica is currently in the lead. When Sporting Lisbon tied in the last match, things got even more complicated in the Portuguese league. Right now, Porto, Sporting Lisbon, Benfica are the three teams competing for the championship. One of these three teams will be the champion. Benfica is currently leading by one point. There is not a big difference between the teams. Sporting Lisbon and Porto are on the same points. There is only a one point difference between the three teams. I have not seen the Portuguese league this enjoyable lately. It is really enjoyable to watch.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 24, 2024, 07:29:35 AM

I saw the case of Botafogo in the past and you are right, and the same scenario and now that Benfica won the game against Estoril, Sporting's situation has worsened because they are now in second place and not in first place and it will not take long for Sporting fans to start demanding the coach's dismissal. Unfortunately this coach will not have an easy life, he was unlucky to take the place of someone who managed to bring the team a title and they were close to winning another title and now they are starting to get far from the title. Sporting fans will not stop criticizing the coach if in the next games he has bad results while Benfica stays at the top.

Apart from the Portuguese League, I was very confident that Sporting could make an excellent Champions League run, perhaps reaching a semi-final, and they had a great chance, with Gyökeres scoring a lot of goals
Unfortunately, that season in the Champions League may also have been lost Tongue

The next league match is Sporting vs Benfica Shocked

It could be a great chance for Sporting to at least win and finish the year in first place again

I'm thinking about betting on this game, it could be very difficult but with very good odds after Sporting lost their performance.

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Quote from: Jossque on December 24, 2024, 10:14:57 AM

We can say that Benfica won comfortably against a weak opponent.Benfica defeated Estoril at home with 3 goals and managed to take the lead from Sporting.Sporting's draw with Gil Vicente this week has pushed them out of the lead.
Benfica is 1 point ahead of their rivals and will want to maintain this.
Porto also managed to win 3-0 this week.Porto continues to follow their rivals after taking 3 points away from Moreirense with 3 goals.
Sporting's defeats to both Santa Clara and Moreirense have taken them out of the race.They have lost 6 points by losing to 2 teams in a row and their rivals have managed to close the gap.

It a pity that Sporting is almost looking like that are out of the title race, when Ruben Amorim was still at sporting there was a time they were 6 points clear and it was like they are going to win the league. Immediately sporting started struggling Benfica use that opportunity and closed the gap between them and now they are now 1 point ahead and sitting on top of the league till after Christmas.

I would say the title deciding match is coming up on the 29th when sporting take on benfica at home, it going to be a very tough match and I personally think the faith of this title this season will depend on that match. After that benfica also take on Braga which is going to be another tough match. If benfica can come out with all 6points in this matches then I can say for sure they will win the title, because we all know how inconsistent Porto have been this season.

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We can say that Benfica won comfortably against a weak opponent.Benfica defeated Estoril at home with 3 goals and managed to take the lead from Sporting.Sporting's draw with Gil Vicente this week has pushed them out of the lead.
Benfica is 1 point ahead of their rivals and will want to maintain this.
Porto also managed to win 3-0 this week.Porto continues to follow their rivals after taking 3 points away from Moreirense with 3 goals.
Sporting's defeats to both Santa Clara and Moreirense have taken them out of the race.They have lost 6 points by losing to 2 teams in a row and their rivals have managed to close the gap.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 24, 2024, 05:01:03 AM

Quote from: Slow death on December 23, 2024, 09:09:18 AM

In my opinion, what happens is the following: Coach Amorim made the lineup, then defined the formation and so far the new coach is doing the same thing, but the difference is in the instructions that each coach gives to the players during the game and also the reaction time that each coach has during the game, for example, if Amorim sees that Sporting is being pressured in defense and player X can go and close the opponent so as not to pressure Sporting's defense, he will make the decision to call his player to close the opponent's player and this could change the rhythm of the game. While this coach may not be able to make a good reading during the game.

In situations like this, you can see how important the coach's work is and that all the players need to be aligned with the coach's work proposal

I've seen this same situation happen at Botafogo (Brazil) last season
The team played like Sporting, without losing a game until halfway through the championship.
They changed the coach, the players were exactly the same, but they started losing games, went 10 games without a win and finished fifth in the league
The same thing will probably happen with Sporting

I saw the case of Botafogo in the past and you are right, and the same scenario and now that Benfica won the game against Estoril, Sporting's situation has worsened because they are now in second place and not in first place and it will not take long for Sporting fans to start demanding the coach's dismissal. Unfortunately this coach will not have an easy life, he was unlucky to take the place of someone who managed to bring the team a title and they were close to winning another title and now they are starting to get far from the title. Sporting fans will not stop criticizing the coach if in the next games he has bad results while Benfica stays at the top.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 23, 2024, 09:09:18 AM

In my opinion, what happens is the following: Coach Amorim made the lineup, then defined the formation and so far the new coach is doing the same thing, but the difference is in the instructions that each coach gives to the players during the game and also the reaction time that each coach has during the game, for example, if Amorim sees that Sporting is being pressured in defense and player X can go and close the opponent so as not to pressure Sporting's defense, he will make the decision to call his player to close the opponent's player and this could change the rhythm of the game. While this coach may not be able to make a good reading during the game.

In situations like this, you can see how important the coach's work is and that all the players need to be aligned with the coach's work proposal

I've seen this same situation happen at Botafogo (Brazil) last season
The team played like Sporting, without losing a game until halfway through the championship.
They changed the coach, the players were exactly the same, but they started losing games, went 10 games without a win and finished fifth in the league
The same thing will probably happen with Sporting

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Quote from: Abbatty on December 23, 2024, 03:03:30 AM

I don’t think sporting problem is to bring in players because this was the same player Ruben Amorim was using during his time At sporting, the same formation too, I just can’t really figure out what is happening

In my opinion, what happens is the following: Coach Amorim made the lineup, then defined the formation and so far the new coach is doing the same thing, but the difference is in the instructions that each coach gives to the players during the game and also the reaction time that each coach has during the game, for example, if Amorim sees that Sporting is being pressured in defense and player X can go and close the opponent so as not to pressure Sporting's defense, he will make the decision to call his player to close the opponent's player and this could change the rhythm of the game. While this coach may not be able to make a good reading during the game.

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I've already lost my bet because of Sporting Angry

Incredible how the team has lost its way with the change of coach, it looks like another team
The coach should be changed soon

Benfica should win today and finish the round in first place with 38 points
It would be very lucky for Sporting if Benfica drew at least, but it would only be a way of delaying the inevitable.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on December 22, 2024, 06:26:38 PM

Another poor game from Sporting. Game against Gil Vicente ended 0:0 and they failed to score against team that parked a bus. They had ball posession, they made plenty of shots, but not dangerous enough to score a goal. Sporting board should take some actions to save season before it's not too late.
Already tomorrow Benfica can reach 1st place if they will beat Estoril.

Yes, unfortunately Sporting couldn't score a goal, I really hoped for it and expected Sporting to score a goal in the second half, but Gil Vicente defended with the whole team and achieved this draw. I think that Benfica will not miss their chance and they will rise to the top of the table, so I expected that Sporting would be able to win to get 3 points and not depend on the Benfica match, but now it looks like Benfica will regain the lead.

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