Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 100. (Read 58906 times)

Both teams have weaknesses in their teams, of course Chelsea is not stable enough but they have started to show better performance so far. For Manchester United, their biggest mistake is of course not fixing their defense line properly in the transfer market.

The reason is because they are unable to maintain their best game when facing a team of equal strength. At Old Trafford, Manchester United was humiliated with a score of 0-3 by Liverpool.


Imagine how bad their performance would be until the end of this season if they were not supported by a strong defense.

Yep. Man United main problem is on the defense and attacking line. But Ten Hag looks trying to solve the problem in the defense line. He signed Yoro, De Light, and Mazraoui. I think he did the right way, these defenders are quite good defenders. Meanwhile for the attacking line, Ten Hag looks never trying to sign a proper striker. Again, he signed a mediocre striker even if Man United actually needs an top striker. I guessed he will try to sign a top striker like Osimhen, unfortunately he signed Zirkzee. IMO, Højlund is still better than this player.

TBH, it is difficult to get your point. Which season you are talking about? This season or the last season?  
If you refer to this season, it is not over yet. We can't claim Liverpool does great season because it is just the beginning of the season. It is possible that there is a change in Liverpool performance for the next matches.

The problem can be both from the quality of the players and the tactics/strategy applied by the coach. However, the coach (Ten Hag) should be responsible with the problem on Man United. Ten Hag is the person who decided the formation, starting line-up, tactics, and even building the squad. Sure, he also gives the instruction and influences the mentality of the players. However, for some cases like Maguire and Antony, we also can't deny that it is also a problem of player's quality.

That's a fairly conservative prediction, but I think you're putting too much faith in Man United. It really doesn't look like they improved anything since the last season, if anything, they look even worse. I was surprised they didn't replace Ten Hag. I'm not saying he's a bad manager, but things simply don't work.
And I have mixed feelings about Chelsea. I think they'll struggle to break into the top 4.

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Seems like everyone expects Man City to win the title 5th year in a row. I wouldn't mind that, but I think either Arsenal or Liverpool might snatch it from them this time.

You can't compare Chelsea to Manchester United from the fact that it has been obvious especially during pre season that Chelsea defense is wack while Manchester United issues goes more than being the defense but all part of the team there haven't actually been a notably growth from them but their coach is too blinded to see, all because of his shameless pride but like they say pride comes before the fall.

Enzo Maresca's defense choice has a lot of scrutiny but I won't judge more till next season or January let's see if there will be an improvement at the Cb especially

Brighton are doing well for the level the club is ranked. Since they arrived in the premier league they have done so well to remain in the league unlike some other clubs like Leicester City who fell down the pecking order after winning the league title. Brighton are a business minded club and they need to stay relevant in the league to keep closing those big deals. Newcastle on the other hand are overhyped because of their current financial strength but with all the money they, Newcastle have not been able to perform in top competitions against other big clubs.

Manchester United lack both quality strikers and defenders as they have conceded 5 goals and scored only 2. But I don't think that's still the problem, because they have players who can perform well in those positions, it's just a matter of tactics that don't work, at the very least tactics that don't work, at the most - wrong formation of players and their personal instructions. This was originally Ten Haga's problem and continues to be so

Do you enjoy Fantasy Premier League? I have never played that in my life honestly.    But people really get addicted with this game when they start it. I'm also feeling like it will happen to me too as I'm a football lover.

Yeah, Manchester United should do something as soon as possible. I want to see a positive affect of the recent transfers. Technically they have made really good moves to consolidate the defense.

Mazraoui is a great right-back. He is definitely reliable. de Ligt is also a wonderful defender. Much better than playing with a flop like Maguire.    The last transfer Ugarte also has a lot of potential. Casemiro can be replaced by him in the starting eleven.

There is no doubt Liverpool  are doing great this season, but my trust and hope for them died last season, afterwhich they have had a good play for a long while, they just suddenly  start losing form for no reason, and that wasn't a good experience for them. I believed they would strive for the EPL title  last season but unfortunately, Manchester city took the lead and won the trophy. Though they started strong this season, with an outstanding play, I hope they continue  with this form, rather than beginning to flop when the season is getting to an end. Brighton is also keeping up strong, but I believe  they'll  loss form when the season  start getting tough.

Manchester United's main problem at the start of this season was that they did not have a truly productive striker and a strong defense. In 3 matches, Manchester United was only able to score 2 goals and conceded 5 goals. This statistic illustrates how weak they are compared to other teams, even Chelsea is still better if goal productivity is compared.

So far, Chelsea also doesn't have a strong defense, of course because they are as bad as Manchester United, where they have conceded 5 goals in 3 matches. Chelsea and Manchester United are not favorites to be in the top four at the end of the season, but they could improve over time and gain the best places.

Liverpool might have a new manager, but they don't have a new squad. With the way Liverpool team have been playing since the start of the season, I will say this Liverpool team is up for something in the premier league. They have been the only team that's yet to conceed a goal among the teams that finished top 4 last season. And so far they have been more consistent than Arsenal this season. They are only behind to Manchester City if not that Manchester City has been on a perfect start to the season, Liverpool would have been top of the league. Not many people really thought that Liverpool will be where they are currently after Klopp left last season. Don't be surprised if Liverpool finish ahead of Arsenal this season.

Brighton is always doing the same thing every season and if it is about starting well every season that is what Brighton ia good at but been consistent ia something that they find it very had to do, their performance is always for a short time and that is why I don't even take them seriously because Brighton will always be Brighton they give the management and there fans hope that won't last long. Tottenham also have the same and Burnley but at the end of the day they will not make any difference, I practically know how they have been misbehaving for some seasons now. Newcastle and Aston Villa is even better because they are still able to try and keep up because Aston Villa gave Arsenal a tough time and they stopped is from winning the trophy and I feel like that will repeat it self this season.



I don't think they can be able to compete with the mentioned teams. And even Manchester City will not be easily affected, and even Arsenal because even when Arsenal played with Aston villa and it was a revenge we already know our top they are always consistent with maintaining their their top four, all this one maintaining the top four are not the original top four holders so the main top fours are coming very soon. Brighton can not be able to maintain that position, and  we are just unders observation first because their is a lot of underground cooking a lot of people will be surprised with what is going to happen in the Premier League.  But not a  surprise from Brighton.

Manchester City and Arsenal are two teams that have a very capable attacking line at the moment, but we can't compare Haalaand and Havertz at the moment even though they are in the same position as a central striker, Haalaand is plotted by Guardiola as a pure attacker which means he only needs to wait for the ball to come to score, while Havertz I don't see him as a main striker because he is more mobile in playing to the Arsenal center line and defense so far, Arsenal actually rely more wing line for attacked and scoring while Havertz in my opinion is more inclined to play two roles as an Amc and also a striker at the moment, Arsenal in recent seasons have indeed been linked with Gyokeres but I think it's just an issue raised by the media, because so far Sporting Lisbon has never received an official offer from Arsenal to sign Gyokeres who has a release clause of 100 million euros.

What leaves me more in awe is the fact that they had a strong formidable team and all of a sudden, an intercontinental war ruined it in a single night. The poor managerial team gave players on lease and use wrong formations in every game... At the time,it was obvious how they had to struggle really hard to draw against a small team like Brentford.

Now, they've got alot of players trippin'... If Jackson isn't the right 9, why not just go for someone else that could replace him ?? He looks more like a central midfielder to me. I've noticed that he's good in laying out passes. Wrong positioning can do alot of damage to a one skilled player.

I do not understand Chelsea’s transfer strategy because Todd Boehly keeps making surprising moves. At some point, I thought that the club was focusing on improving the first team squad and getting a striker to suport Jackson. Looking at the recruitment so far, Chelsea now records more than 30 first teams players,  many of them are never going to be starters. This makes you wonder what strategy Chelsea are adopting with their transfers whether it is for instant improvement or for future sale and profit.

I think exactly the same about the striker difference between Arsenal and Manchester City. At one side, there is Haaland. But at the other side, there is Havertz who isn't even a natural striker.    Arsenal was actually going to sign Gyökeres but it failed... I assume they found Sporting's asking price too high. But he was still worth it. Making a single signing was going to be enough already. They have a great squad.

Lastly I don't know whether you are a Manchester United fan. But you must also be unsatisfied with this performance. I really want them to get better of course. I miss Alex Ferguson times...

Good list, but I would agree more if you put Liverpool above Arsenal.
Arsenal does have a great coach and Arteta has also been with Arsenal for a long time. But looking at Arsenal achievements from the last 2 seasons still makes me doubtful that they can compete for first place or runner up. On the one hand, Liverpool seems to be getting better even though they are no longer with Klopp but we can see their performance in the EPL now.
In terms of experience, maybe I can't say Arteta is more professional, because Arne Slot actually has more experience with several previous teams.
But the conclusion is that the most important thing is that we have to wait for at least a few matches to come and that's when we can judge which team deserves to lead the EPL.

Man United have made a big overhaul this season, and it has cost them quite a bit of money, but even so, they haven't been able to play well so far, and that's what's happening at the moment. However, I try to see their potential over a fairly long period of time because I feel that what Man United (Ten Hag) is working on doesn't seem like it can be achieved instantly.

A solid team usually has good chemistry and teamwork but, I don't think that can be achieved if the players don't know each other closely. The new players have never experienced the Premier League and they also come from different clubs (except De Ligt and Mazraoui), so I think they definitely need to adapt first.

I have similar thoughts to you, but I think Chelsea can surprise and push for the top of the list because they have a lot of potential. If the chemistry of the team is right, they can do well. I think Arsenal need a good striker to overtake Manchester City. Manchester City can only lose their position if they lose Pep. Brighton are a very good team but Liverpool have a great football culture. Liverpool can beat them or be favorites against them even in their worse season. I have no comment for Manchester United. I think they have to transfer an alien to the team... :)

With the current problem which the two clubs are having currently, they both won’t be able to make it to the top 4 because the two clubs have lots of things that they are supposed to fix, and it’s going to be a gradual process, not something they can just fix easily, so I don’t think both Manchester United and Chelsea will be able to make it to the top 4, and with Manchester United's current performance, I am even expecting them to end the season in the worst position and not expecting anything special from them this season.
 
I won’t just be surprised if I see Manchester United end the season in the middle of the table. With their current performance, I just have the feeling that that’s where they're going to end the season because their coach is not making any impact on the team.

Everybody has his or her own view and it's expected to respect everyone's opinion here but looking at your prediction of and how you're referring to Brighton as jokers, I think your knowledge about football is very limited. Aston Villa without doubt was the dark horse in the English Premier League last season but I think it's almost impossible for them to finish the current season in the top four considering the fact that they'll have to play in the UEFA Champions League competition. Three matches have been played so far in the English Premier League and I understand it'll be too early to predict the outcome of the league this season but I'm very confident that Brighton will finish the season in a better position that Aston Villa and Newcastle United