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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 06, 2024, 12:13:21 PM

Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!

Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already. Grin

Liverpool have played three matches so far in the English Premier League where they have won all the matches and they have not conceded any goals so far. It has been a great start for Liverpool in the Premier League. However, it is the very beginning of the season and there is still a long way to go so Liverpool must be consistent going forward. They need to ensure that their performance does not deteriorate towards the middle of the season or towards the end of the season.

A new manager has taken over at Liverpool so all these achievements will no doubt compliment his team management skills. If the current manager can give the right direction to the team till the end of the season, then this team will definitely compete with Manchester City or Arsenal in the Premier League.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on September 06, 2024, 12:48:08 PM

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If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.

Fabian Hurzeler is one of the important factors behind Brighton's good performance at the start of this season. This team has played with great enthusiasm in its last three matches, but this good performance could still decline if several players in the current main squad suffer injuries. I don't know Fabian Hurzeler that well, but I admit he has played an important role in Brighton's revival this season.

If Brighton can be this consistent throughout the season, then I think they can compete to win a ticket to the Champions League next season. Brighton ended last season in 11th position with 12 wins, 12 draws and 14 losses, but they could potentially be in the European zone this season and claim a slot there at the end of the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 06, 2024, 12:13:21 PM

Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!

Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already. Grin

If Liverpool has gone three matches this season without conceding a goal, it is actually a big plus to Arne Slot. I haven't taken note of that statistic, I only know that they are unbeating so far with Manchester City. Before the 30th of November when Manchester City will meet Liverpool, either of Manchester City or Liverpool or even both must have lost some points. Even if they are unable to lose three points, they will at least lose two points. The English Premier League of this season is not that lose, it is somewhat competitive that anything can happen to any of these big clubs at any time.

Not withstanding, I am more confident in Manchester City and Arsenal than in Liverpool. Why do I say so, it is because both Pep Guardiola and Mikel Arteta have been in English Premier League and have known how to manage their players. If small injury crisis rock Liverpool, I am not very sure that Arne Slot can handle it effectively.

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Arne Slot definitely has a lot of ground to cover, he is doing good so far but he is a new manager for a team that has been good for many years now, and while a top four finish would be fine for many people, I think the start made people a little bit more hyped, so there is a chance that people may want to see even better results.

Honestly speaking, if Liverpool ended this season as the champions of premier league, would we be shocked? I wouldn't be shocked, I am not expecting that to happen at all, but I am also not considering this as impossible neither. Brighton has been good too, but I would say it is near impossible for Brighton to win the league, it is not like that for Liverpool, it's unlikely but it's on the table as a possibility.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 06, 2024, 12:13:21 PM

Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!

Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already. Grin

Liverpool and Manchester City have been the best in the first 3 weeks of the season, they showed impressive matches, I saw that and you can't say it wrong.

The question for many people is whether Liverpool will be very consistent and show very good performance in Arne Slot, because he is the Liverpool coach now and will compete with his idol, Guardiola as the conqueror of the English premier league in the last few seasons, this will be very interesting, it looks like the English premier league will not be able to escape Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool for this kind of potential, although Arsenal did not go well against Brighton yesterday with a draw.

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Quote from: DiMarxist on September 06, 2024, 12:36:30 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on September 06, 2024, 12:13:21 PM

Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!

Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already. Grin

Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.

If you're wondering about how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy. It's all started when they let Maresca go to Chelsea. They then recruited Fabian Hurzeler as their new coach. And he is being nominated as the top manager of this month.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 06, 2024, 12:13:21 PM

Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!

Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already. Grin

Lol, impressive thought and your thought might be right but don’t you think the season is too fresh to predict besides Brighton and Arsenal is at the corner watching. I still wonder how Brighton managed to come with early speed and energy I hope they mention same energy all through.
I never expected much from Arne Slot also like it’s a new season and Liverpool with a new coach but still doing perfect is impressive, seeing how Arne Slot lead the team shows he’s ready for the title let’s watch out.

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Liverpool are currently the only team that haven't conceded a single goal in the league. That's impressive!

Scoring 7 goals at the same time is also great. It is early in the season but they might create some hype if they go on like this.

The only teams without point loss after 3 weeks are Liverpool and Manchester City now. If I'm not wrong the first game between these two teams in the league is on November 30. There is a really long time until then. After parting ways with Klopp and signing Arne Slot, people are wondering what Liverpool will do. I can't imagine how much he would be loved if Liverpool make it to the league title in his first year already. Grin

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on September 05, 2024, 05:10:29 PM

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In my opinion, Liverpool is almost the same as last season, they are still a strong team because the attack process is almost the same as Klopp's game, only Slot has slightly improved the team's defense and that was Liverpool's weakness last season.

Since the beginning, Liverpool management has been looking for a replacement for Klopp whose playing style is as similar as possible to Klopp's game so that the transition of changing coaches is not too difficult for the game and so far Arne Slot has succeeded in coaching Liverpool.

What you said is true. It is still too early to say that Liverpool will be consistent until the end of the season considering the very tight match schedule this season. Fatigue and injury problems could affect Liverpool's performance. So to overcome this, Liverpool still needs 2-3 players in the midfield and back for squad depth. the performance of players like Ryan Gravenberch so far has certainly been a surprise and on the other hand it is something to be afraid of if later he is injured/accumulates cards, because there is no equivalent cover in the existing squad. So Arne Slot has to buy a few more players to back up the core players.

Liverpool is still good, no doubt, and even after changing their coach, they still keep their consistency. There is nothing different with the way they perform with the former coach; furthermore, let's see if they will be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season; they just start the season with good performances, so I’m expecting Liverpool to make things possible for themselves. I can’t choose Liverpool because my favourite club is there too, and I really want them to win the Champions this season.

Lastly, we should not give Liverpool higher chances of winning the title. The season just started; we have not gone anywhere. We should calm down for them to see what they will do.

I think you're deleting people's quotes incorrectly, those are not my words but @Mame89's, take a look at the people you're quoting and correct your post in this comment.

Regarding the championship in the champions league of course they will pursue it, but the competition now is still quite difficult where Man City and Real Madrid will not let the competition run easily in the champions league, they are always the favorite winners in that league.
The situation at Man City now is also very good and Haaland is giving his performance back and it will affect many more teams who are ambitious to pass them.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on September 05, 2024, 05:10:29 PM

Liverpool is still good, no doubt, and even after changing their coach, they still keep their consistency. There is nothing different with the way they perform with the former coach; furthermore, let's see if they will be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season; they just start the season with good performances, so I’m expecting Liverpool to make things possible for themselves. I can’t choose Liverpool because my favourite club is there too, and I really want them to win the Champions this season.

Lastly, we should not give Liverpool higher chances of winning the title. The season just started; we have not gone anywhere. We should calm down for them to see what they will do.

There is no doubt about the performance of this team, for me Liveprool is on the right track, although the truth is I also think the same, we should not get ahead of events and we cannot make predictions that we could regret later, however, the level that I see in the PL any team can become champion, even Chelsea if they start doing things right, personally I think that City has a lot of level and enough to win the PL again, but in the same way we should wait to see how things turn out, it's good to see it that way, with respect to Liverpool I have a lot of faith in them too.

Liverpool transfer decision revealed as Arne Slot sent midfielder message

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The first international break of the season is upon us with Liverpool having the perfect start under new head coach Arne Slot. The Reds have won all three of their Premier League games under the Dutchman, including a 3-0 away win over rivals Manchester United last weekend.

The two week break has seen a big chunk of Slot's squad go off on international duty, but it also gives the boss a chance to work with those who have stayed behind. That includes new signing Federico Chiesa, who has not joined up with the Italy squad after his late transfer to Liverpool.

Source:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-transfer-decision-revealed-arne-29878466

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It is good to hear Palmer isn't going to be a part of the Conference League main stage. It isn't the Champions League in the end. Why would you risk your best player by far, right?

They need him much more than the rest of the players. He shouldn't get injured or too exhausted in a less important match there. He should always be ready to contribute in the Premier League instead. He has already started with 1 goal and 4 assists in 3 matches. He is a magician. Grin

But it is sad to see Chelsea still being consistent while he is trying his best. It would just make things easier for Palmer to leave earlier for trophies.

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Chelsea not doing great is not really a shock, they keep on getting players and at this point they are making a huge mistake. They have 40+ players on their list, that makes no sense and if they get rid of half of them, the money they can raise from that would be enough to purchase Mbappe and Haaland together, it makes no sense to spend this much money on mostly players that are not good.

Let's see how they will do, but when you consider the amount of money they spent, and then you look at their roster on a game day, and the eleven players they have look basically similar to whoever they are facing. When in reality they should be a lot better if they spend this much, and for the past two years or so they have been just getting whoever they want, that's a bad decision.

It is not surprising to everyone with Chelsea's performance in the last few seasons until now, they have been inconsistent and I agree with you about wasting money just for players they shouldn't buy, not only Chelsea, Man United is the same as Chelsea even though they are considered a rich club, spending that much money is not a big deal for them, but on the other hand they are not aware that this will end in their financial crisis in the future, if they continue to buy players who are not useful for the club's growth then a crisis will hit Chelsea, of course there must be a change in the problem of recruiting players in choosing players who are truly useful for the team and can bring change to Chelsea's game, I hope Chelsea is aware of this condition in every season experiencing a significant decline.

when a squad spends the likes of over 1 billion in the span of two years, you expect their first eleven to be really really good, where the players are so good that they can be considered as stars. Chelsea owners did spend a lot of money but the spending was not really well-thought. A lot of these recruitments are seen as future investments, who can be sold for higher prices later on. But I don't think that's how football really works.

If Todd Boehly was more success oriented, I think he would try to buy a few star players, who will make the starting XI in every week and are also proven in the Premier League. Coming to Chelsea could be a delight for a lot of players, as this gets them more wages, a spot in the top 6 clubs in the league is definitely something to be proud of. It's also not like going to Saudi Arabia, which ensures they don't get a backlash.

Chelsea should have gone for more players like Pedro Neto, who are proven in the Premier League, who can start games and can ensure wins, and their buying of worse players does not add much value in the current context. I hope they make better choices soon.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 05, 2024, 09:43:45 AM

Liverpool is truly convincing in the first three games of the Premier League as for Manchester City we know how strong they are, yet it is one of those rare cases where Liverpool starts in full power and is yet to concede a goal while crushing Manchester United at Old Trafford which is quite an achievement for them. Liverpool have suffered already in the previous seasons in the first few games of the Premier League and in the end those seasons did not end well as we know but right now they are having a great form and as I said it is not a coincidence because you simply cannot beat that easily 0-3 in their home a team like Manchester United which leads to me to my next question unanswered from months now, when is Ten Haag going to be sacked?

Beating Manchester United by a huge margin of 3-0 at home was not easy for Liverpool but Liverpool did it. If Manchester United had been beaten 3-0 at home by Liverpool, I wouldn't have highlighted it so much, but what happened is Liverpool's performance. Last season we saw Liverpool start the season like this at the beginning of the season but they couldn't maintain that consistency later on. Liverpool have played three matches this season where they are second in the points table with nine points despite 3 points from first placed Manchester City. If Liverpool can maintain this consistency, then this team will have a tough competition with Manchester City.

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Quote from: Popkon6 on September 06, 2024, 12:32:46 AM

Quote from: Fiatless on September 05, 2024, 10:39:56 AM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cje2jw09ylzo
Chelsea have decided to exclude star player Cole Palmer from the Conference League competition. The club would play about 80 games this season so Manager Enzo Maresca decided not to register Palmer to reduce his workload.

Ben Chilwel has been asked to leave, and he might be open to any offer from Turkey or other leagues that are still open for transfer. Players like Cesare Casadei, Carney Chukwuemeka, and Marc Guiu were registered for the competition. Palmer can still be registered if Chelsea makes it to the knockout rounds.

palmer is a smart player and his performances have contributed a lot to the chelsea team, so he should definitely be given one to two more games. But of course I believe that Chelsea decided to drop palmer from the squad due to having too many players in the squad. Since he has remained unregistered so far, he must be given a chance as he has been performing well for a long time. Because his game is so clear and he can support any player well, before changing a player he must be given a chance so that he can perform well later on.

I don't know why the Chelsea coach took such a decision. Cole Palmer is a very talented player. Cole Palmer is only 22 years old. If properly cared for he will be able to perform better in future. But the Chelsea coach left this talented player out of the Europa Conference League squad. Chelsea should have used Cole Palmer properly. As a result, he could gradually become more experienced.

He has 1 goal and 4 assists in three matches with Chelsea this season. He is the most regular player in Chelsea's squad at the moment. But maybe the Chelsea coach can make such a decision to reduce Palmer's injury tendency. Palmer's chances of injury increase if he performs regularly in Europe's conference leagues. This is probably why the Chelsea coach wants Palmer to perform only in the Premier League. And may his excellent performance continue. This could be a reason why Cole Palmer was left out of the Europe Conference League squad.

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Quote from: Fiatless on September 05, 2024, 10:39:56 AM

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Chelsea have decided to exclude star player Cole Palmer from the Conference League competition. The club would play about 80 games this season so Manager Enzo Maresca decided not to register Palmer to reduce his workload.

Ben Chilwel has been asked to leave, and he might be open to any offer from Turkey or other leagues that are still open for transfer. Players like Cesare Casadei, Carney Chukwuemeka, and Marc Guiu were registered for the competition. Palmer can still be registered if Chelsea makes it to the knockout rounds.

When I first heard about it I got surprised but later I understood why. Indeed they are going to play too many games during this season. Considering how valuable Palmer is for Chelsea, Enzo Maresca must think of the best for him.

Besides the Conference League isn't a priority for Chelsea as you know. The board expects success in the Premier League first. Because Chelsea are really craving for success here for years...

I also don't want to see the team I support in the PL in this situation. They need to give some reaction. They are called as one of the biggest teams of this league but can't meet the expectations every time. Sad

Well, if this piss of news is correct, then i think it's a logical decision that has been well thought about before it was made, because if you look at Ben chilwel, he is actually not in Chelsea's plan anymore, he is actually surplus to requirements, so what I heard right now about his situation is that Chelsea are open to selling him to a Turkish team if their is any interested club, and as it stands, he might not get even a single minute if he stays back at the club, so I think the best option right now is for him to move to turkey since their transfer window is still open till now.

Then as for cole palmer, just as you rightfully said, the numbers of matches he is going to play is way too much and it will definitely be detriment to his fitness, so it's a good decision by Chelsea not to register him in the uefa conference squad since the competition is the least of their objective this season.

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Quote from: Fiatless on September 05, 2024, 10:39:56 AM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cje2jw09ylzo
Chelsea have decided to exclude star player Cole Palmer from the Conference League competition. The club would play about 80 games this season so Manager Enzo Maresca decided not to register Palmer to reduce his workload.

Ben Chilwel has been asked to leave, and he might be open to any offer from Turkey or other leagues that are still open for transfer. Players like Cesare Casadei, Carney Chukwuemeka, and Marc Guiu were registered for the competition. Palmer can still be registered if Chelsea makes it to the knockout rounds.

palmer is a smart player and his performances have contributed a lot to the chelsea team, so he should definitely be given one to two more games. But of course I believe that Chelsea decided to drop palmer from the squad due to having too many players in the squad. Since he has remained unregistered so far, he must be given a chance as he has been performing well for a long time. Because his game is so clear and he can support any player well, before changing a player he must be given a chance so that he can perform well later on.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on September 05, 2024, 05:57:53 PM

Chelsea has lots of players that can be used for a tournament that is inferior to the club. Chelsea have a player that's considered to be one of the best talents in the world that was nominated for the Ballon d'Or to be playing at the conference league. It is better the players get rested for better tournaments to play and help the team as they'll be well rested to play in the premier league games. Chelsea have lots of young guys that can play in the conference league and they'll be playing with players that are almost on their level and win therefore the club is doing the young players a platform to impress the coach and get on the first team substitution list.

I literally like this idea of not taking Palmer and the likes to the Europa conference league, now there are so many players who can try to prove their worth and boost their confidence there. A team can't just continue to depend on certain players only, this separate top teams from mid teams and I hope many of these youngsters can be able to find themselves through this.

While the likes of Fofana and Latvia also needed this from their own injuries woesthey suffered especially last season, thank God they're back and I hope they can just have nothing of that long term sidelines ever again including Recce James who is listed in the squad.

After this players fails to do well, I hope the Chelsea management team will then find a way of selling them or at most loaning them out, from the fact that if they can't do against third tier European teams competitions, how can they become a big team player, playing in the Europa League or Champions league or even competing with Epl big teams like Manchester City and Liverpool

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Quote from: Fiatless on September 05, 2024, 10:39:56 AM

Ben Chilwel has been asked to leave, and he might be open to any offer from Turkey or other leagues that are still open for transfer. Players like Cesare Casadei, Carney Chukwuemeka, and Marc Guiu were registered for the competition. Palmer can still be registered if Chelsea makes it to the knockout rounds.

Chelsea has lots of players that can be used for a tournament that is inferior to the club. Chelsea have a player that's considered to be one of the best talents in the world that was nominated for the Ballon d'Or to be playing at the conference league. It is better the players get rested for better tournaments to play and help the team as they'll be well rested to play in the premier league games. Chelsea have lots of young guys that can play in the conference league and they'll be playing with players that are almost on their level and win therefore the club is doing the young players a platform to impress the coach and get on the first team substitution list.

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Quote from: Fiatless on September 05, 2024, 10:39:56 AM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cje2jw09ylzo
Chelsea have decided to exclude star player Cole Palmer from the Conference League competition. The club would play about 80 games this season so Manager Enzo Maresca decided not to register Palmer to reduce his workload.

No good coach in his right senses will register Cole Palmer to play the conference league whykile hid dressing room is full of many and even unused players that need to be engaged. In the other hand, It is becoming obvious that Chelsea might not be able to quality for the champions League this season. But even if they cannot qualify for the champions League, atleast they are hopeful of the Europa league. But incase the league becomes too tough, for them and the coach is unsure of either Champions league or Europa league, they should be serious with the conference league in order to win it and have direct ticket to the Europa league.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on September 05, 2024, 01:19:48 PM

In my opinion, Liverpool is almost the same as last season, they are still a strong team because the attack process is almost the same as Klopp's game, only Slot has slightly improved the team's defense and that was Liverpool's weakness last season.

Since the beginning, Liverpool management has been looking for a replacement for Klopp whose playing style is as similar as possible to Klopp's game so that the transition of changing coaches is not too difficult for the game and so far Arne Slot has succeeded in coaching Liverpool.

What you said is true. It is still too early to say that Liverpool will be consistent until the end of the season considering the very tight match schedule this season. Fatigue and injury problems could affect Liverpool's performance. So to overcome this, Liverpool still needs 2-3 players in the midfield and back for squad depth. the performance of players like Ryan Gravenberch so far has certainly been a surprise and on the other hand it is something to be afraid of if later he is injured/accumulates cards, because there is no equivalent cover in the existing squad. So Arne Slot has to buy a few more players to back up the core players.

Liverpool is still good, no doubt, and even after changing their coach, they still keep their consistency. There is nothing different with the way they perform with the former coach; furthermore, let's see if they will be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season; they just start the season with good performances, so I’m expecting Liverpool to make things possible for themselves. I can’t choose Liverpool because my favourite club is there too, and I really want them to win the Champions this season.

Lastly, we should not give Liverpool higher chances of winning the title. The season just started; we have not gone anywhere. We should calm down for them to see what they will do.

Yea, you are right, we are just at the beginning of the season. We have to see more about their performance, but knowing that Liverpool also had a great performance at the start of the season, there is some hope that they will be in the top 4 of the table. Before the season ends, for them to win the trophy, it will be very hard because there is no possibility for them to gain the trophy when Arsenal and Manchester City are still in the game, although anything can happen because their new coach, Arne Slot, is really trying his best to see the team's success in this season. Although they are done great for now, we don’t still know what is capable of happening before the end of the season because there are a lot of games to be played.

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