Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 99. (Read 58887 times)

Arsenal have started on a good note, two wins in three games and a controversial draw against Brighton. Looking at the current strength and squad depth of Arsenal you can tell that they are in better shape this season to survive the many games and tough fixtures to come. Manchester City are looking good too. I won’t rate Newcastle to finish above Manchester United because they are not a consistent side and Manchester United have a habit of picking up their pace towards the end of the season.

This is true though but I don't think Chelsea may experience positive improvement from all these defenders maybe season notably Badiashile, I think this guy ought to be loaned at most while Fofana I have much hope on his improvement since he was out for long. While the likes of Levi Colwill, T. Adarabioyo and Disasi may also improve notably Levi who is getting more game time. The LB and RB are more solid than the CB's as t Chelsea, so my main concern is quick improvement of the CB's.

Ten Hag has fails to see his shorts comings now because of the fact that he has won trophies while he ignore the fact that his team has always been too poor to be consistent in the Epl and especially from the fact that he got the players he requested this season, he has little to no excuse. We will see how it goes for him this season

It seems inappropriate to say it is a transition period because after all, this season is Erik ten Hag third season at Manchester United and thus, it is Erik ten Hag obligation to be able to make Manchester United have good quality and performance. Also about the players in the Manchester United squad, at least the players in the Manchester United squad from last season were also Erik ten Hag chosen players by bringing them in at that time.

So, if Erik ten Hag still fails to improve the quality and performance of Manchester United in his third season this season, then honestly it is a failure and it is indeed quite appropriate for Manchester United to look for a new manager. But maybe, Manchester United can still give Erik ten Hag a chance  but if these bad results continue until the middle of the season, then of course it is time for Erik ten Hag to be fired and it is also time for Manchester United to get a better manager.

Manchester United performance so far has not been in good condition and deserves to be a title contender in the English league even though they have spent a lot of money in the transfer market, the arrival of players like Zirkzee, De Ligt, Mazraoui and also Ugerte should make them stronger, especially previously they has many quality players in its squad, Ten Hag performance in coaching Manchester United previously has been evaluated by management, but for some reason it seems like management has turned a blind eye to Manchester United poor performance so far, previously many even thought that Ten Hag would be fired considering his failure in the last season, but what happened instead was that they trusted Ten Hag again and offered a new contract to continue managing Manchester United, so I think if Ten Hag doesn't immediately change and modify their style of play, it will be difficult for Manchester United to immediately rise and become title contenders this season.

We don't see good performance on the field from this team but from strike position to defense position if every player's name is mentioned then it will be seen that every player's name is very big there. They have good players in their team but these good players are not performing well for the team. What is the problem with the players not performing well because they are getting the yearly salary. The management is not paying much attention to the matter so the ordinary supporters who are there are now more worried about Manchester United. Manchester United should have made this decision much earlier if the change of manager is going to bring good results. This may not be possible this season, but if this continues, the current manager must be removed from Manchester United next season.

So far, it has not been seen, they have not been able to play stably. Ten Hag should have probably had to leave. Maybe currently there are those who think that Man United is going through a transition period, but there is no development.

Currently on the International break, this weekend Man United will play Southampton. They were going to St. Mary. Southampton is not a good team either, as they are currently in the relegation zone. They should be able to get 3 points or at least a draw.

Comparing Chelsea with Manchester United at this struggling time is not a bad idea the only difference i see between them is that one has just newly employed aa new coach and the other have been trying to wait and see if their coach can still make a difference after being at the club for more than 2 seasons now. Both teams are struggling with their defense and are also struggling to see how to work the attack out and bring them back to form which i think will be difficult. In my opinion i still see Chelsea to be a better team and with the new coach at hand they are ambitious and we can see aa difference soon, Chelsea’s defensive line is still not good enough at the moment but i believe when given time they can improve and become a solid back line in the league, the new coach is trying to instill an advanced playing style to make them better which is at work already and progressing gradually in just a few months we can already see the difference the new manager is trying to make but the same cannot be said for Manchester United.

Manchester United have been with Ten Hag for about 2 seasons and we aare still yet to spot a difference, nothing is improving and even the new players bought are not picking up, they signed more players but I don’t think there will be any difference if the manager doesn’t come up with a playing style or teach them how to play effectively. Ten Hag needs to put in more effort to bring out the best in his players because he has quality players too and they should be able to perform better than this.

Forget about Manchester united attack and defense, which part of their squad is working perfectly? Absolutely none. Starting from the head couch who makes irrelevant changes to their goal keeper who makes silly mistakes that usually lead to goals. The midfield is not left out too with their lack of coordination and constant losing of possessions. The attack is worse than any other position you can think of.

  Manchester united is the easiest team to play against now in the premier League because they're very bad in every fundamentals. I'm fair enough to predict them finishing at position eight on the table. It is hard to tell which one is more better between Chelsea and Manchester united but Chelsea seems to be slightly better than United judging from the games played so far and statistics from each game.

Manchester United can never progress as far as Ten Hag remains Manchester United coach, Erik ten Hag has turned Manchester United into a team that can not win the premier league even in the next three seasons, Manchester united is the second team that signed players more than any team this season after Chelsea, Erik ten Hag has made Manchester united to sign many players just for him to have a good squad and win a trophy and still, he doesn't know how to use the player's, Erik ten Hag is stubborn and he always wants to do things on his way and that is why the team will never progress.

Some players in the Manchester United team need to be benched sometimes but Erik Ten Hag will use the players to start every game including those games that the fans are expected to win if Manchester United wants to win the league title or have a good squad they need to sack Erik ten Hag and I believe if Manchester united have a good coach the team will be able to defeat many teams in the premier league.

I feel like if Liverpool keeps playing the way they do, Arne Slot could crown his very first season with a title and that would be insane for them. I know that looks unlikely, but I think it is not impossible neither, there is a potential for something like that and I think it's quite good for this to mean something. I know that it is going to be something that will be quite good, Liverpool has the squad to make this a possibility and their new manager also looks great as well so it is not impossible and they have what it takes to make this a reality.

I feel like it is still City that is one to beat, they are amazing, but Arsenal could be different this season, for some reason I have started to believe that they may not be that good this year. Maybe I am wrong and maybe that won't be the case but I feel like it doesn't look that close right now, and because of that I think that it will be something that will get to a point where it is not going to be that easy to handle at all.

Compared to the previous season, Liverpool's performance in this season is good and more organized. Liverpool's performance has been stabilized with the help of Arne Slott. Liverpool have made no major changes within their squad. Arne Slot has kept his squad unchanged. Because Liverpool's squad is already strong enough. Arne Slot boosted the confidence of Liverpool's players. And Arne Slot changed the match strategy. This is why Liverpool's overall performance has been stable this season.

Manchester City are naturally favorites for the Premier League title. Because Manchester City has dominated the Premier League in the last few seasons. Therefore, Manchester City is the most favorite to become the champions of the Premier League this season. However, this season seems to be more competitive than the previous seasons. Arsenal and Liverpool teams are in strong positions. The Premier League will become more crowded in the fight of these three teams this season.

It seems to me that the poor defensive performance of Chelsea and Manchester United may be a common problem that Maresca and ten Hag were unable to solve in the off-season, despite significant spending on new transfers. Maresca is just starting to take his first steps at Chelsea, he may be forgiven for some mistakes, but despite this, I think the decision to fire Pochettino was a big mistake. And ten Hag has no time, they decided to give him one last chance and allowed him to stay as a coach, but the start of the season for Manchester United was a failure, I can’t imagine how this can be fixed.

Since the beginning of this session is good for Liverpool , the best can be expected from them. They have started this session with back to back wins. They deserve to be at the top of the table in this session, although Manchester City, who are often top in the points table and strong team that will not be easy to beat. Last season Liverpool were so bad at the end that many fans couldn't accept their losses and defeats. The team had to end with a draw and a loss in the last two matches. Last season, Liverpool held the 3rd place in the points table, but this season they are tied with the Premier League giants Manchester City. Learning from the mistakes made in the previous session, they are going to surprise at the beginning. I believe if they can keep up this performance then they will surely win the title in this tournament.

Three teams will fight for the Premier League title this season. Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal. And so far the performance of these three teams is quite good. However, Arsenal lost points in one match and fell behind. Hopefully Arsenal will come back stronger after the international break. Arsenal have this capability. Because Arsenal's squad is strong. The fight for the title of these three teams will be very intense.

Brighton have played very well in their first three matches. And if Brigton can maintain the continuity of such performance then the fourth place in the table will be in possession of Brigton. Brighton's boys performed well against Arsenal and Manchester United. Brighton's main rivals for fourth place are Manchester United, Chelsea and Tottenham. The performance of these three teams is very erratic. So for the fourth place I think Brighton team is more suitable.

I am also not sure Chelsea will be able to be in the top 5 because their performance is still doubtful this season unless Chelsea still stick with the same coach as last season maybe Chelsea can be better last season Chelsea finished in 6th place thanks to Pochettino but I think this season maybe Chelsea will finish in the middle of the table maybe 10th place.
Meanwhile I am not sure about your choice that puts Manchester United in 4th place in the standings because in my opinion Man United is not better than Tottenham and Aston Villa I estimate Man United might finish in 8th place in the final standings this season even though they change coaches, because the current Man United players are not in their best form and the new coach who will replace Erik Ten Hag must be able to revive the club's motivation and it is not easy it definitely takes time.

A nice pick though, but I don't know why people think that Chelsea will perform better this season. I personally do not see Chelsea doing better than Aston Villa this season. Although, Aston Villa is going to be distracted by the champions league as it is their first in the recent time, but I strongly believe they will finish above Chelsea in the table. I also do not trust Tottenham at all. Also, if Manchester United could change their coach, they'll definitely make the top 4.

See my list;
1. Manchester City
2. Arsenal
3. Liverpool
4. Manchester United
5. Aston Villa
6. Tottenham
7. Chelsea
8. Newcastle
9. Brighton

For clarity, I was talking about the previous season, and I'm shocked  you didn't get what I was  saying  even when its clearly  written there and you did underlining. However last season  was a mess for them, from my perspective they should have lost their form especially when they were very close to wining  the EPL title.  This season  they have been keeping a good record of  clean sheet and all games won including the defeat of Manchester united with 3 null. From the look of things, its obvious to say that their new coach is doing  a great job and if the result keeps coming in, they might likely  win the EPL this season.


I always  tell my friends that, I don't like ten hag's choice of players. He should be more interested in players who can have the job done now, rather than making selections based on future potentials. Dont get me wrong, its nice ro have future potentials on your team with long durable contracts but when the current  faith of the clubs success depends on skillful experienced players then, you have to go for it to keep the club in a good form.

Both teams have weaknesses in their teams, of course Chelsea is not stable enough but they have started to show better performance so far. For Manchester United, their biggest mistake is of course not fixing their defense line properly in the transfer market.

The reason is because they are unable to maintain their best game when facing a team of equal strength. At Old Trafford, Manchester United was humiliated with a score of 0-3 by Liverpool.


Imagine how bad their performance would be until the end of this season if they were not supported by a strong defense.

Yep. Man United main problem is on the defense and attacking line. But Ten Hag looks trying to solve the problem in the defense line. He signed Yoro, De Light, and Mazraoui. I think he did the right way, these defenders are quite good defenders. Meanwhile for the attacking line, Ten Hag looks never trying to sign a proper striker. Again, he signed a mediocre striker even if Man United actually needs an top striker. I guessed he will try to sign a top striker like Osimhen, unfortunately he signed Zirkzee. IMO, Højlund is still better than this player.

TBH, it is difficult to get your point. Which season you are talking about? This season or the last season?  
If you refer to this season, it is not over yet. We can't claim Liverpool does great season because it is just the beginning of the season. It is possible that there is a change in Liverpool performance for the next matches.

The problem can be both from the quality of the players and the tactics/strategy applied by the coach. However, the coach (Ten Hag) should be responsible with the problem on Man United. Ten Hag is the person who decided the formation, starting line-up, tactics, and even building the squad. Sure, he also gives the instruction and influences the mentality of the players. However, for some cases like Maguire and Antony, we also can't deny that it is also a problem of player's quality.

That's a fairly conservative prediction, but I think you're putting too much faith in Man United. It really doesn't look like they improved anything since the last season, if anything, they look even worse. I was surprised they didn't replace Ten Hag. I'm not saying he's a bad manager, but things simply don't work.
And I have mixed feelings about Chelsea. I think they'll struggle to break into the top 4.

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Seems like everyone expects Man City to win the title 5th year in a row. I wouldn't mind that, but I think either Arsenal or Liverpool might snatch it from them this time.