Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 95. (Read 59611 times)

Arsenal eventually won the match with a 0:1 score taking home full 3 points, it's frustrating for Tottenham how they got possession of the game and lost it due to their poor finishings.

On the contrary, from the statistics from the match at full-time Tottenham were with more attempts on goal than arsenal including shots on target. But it doesn't matter anyway cause at the end of the day what'd most important it's who went home with the three points that counts.

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Something I later observed about Arteta after the end of the game in his decision of going defensive (against his usual attacking tactics) was that he knew he doesn't have the quality in the midfield he had to change approach in the absence of Odegaard and he got brilliant result at the end bwith his approach. However, Arsenal would need to work on their creating of chances and finishing as improvement on that would definitely help them when they meet Manchester City next weekend.

It was the area they lacked in this match indeed. Odegaard and Merino were both injured. Rice was also suspended of red card. As a result, Arteta had no other choice left than using Jorginho in the middle. 

This weaker midfield was a big help for Tottenham to play more organized and be more dangerous in the attacking area as well. However they were so unskilful that they scored 0 goal... I think it was like a miracle that Arsenal won this match.    I hope they get their midfielders back soon otherwise they will continue to have defensive problems clearly. But it is impressive that they can beat a team like Tottenham away even in this situation.

Liverpool's loss is one of those moments that might alter the title race dynamics. While Manchester City seemed to be the most consistent team, if Liverpool can lose a game like that, then it shows even the biggest teams can slip. It actually makes the league more interesting and keeps it shrouded in doubt because no one can be certain that a single team will not face challenges.

I agree that Liverpool need to take heed from this loss, more so to keep their consistency intact in the future. Arne Slot will for sure get more attention, for the pressure on him to keep his team on the winning track will be even greater. In case Liverpool are unable to build upon their momentum especially while up against other strong teams, then they might as well forget about catching up in the race for the title. Otherwise, if they can just correct mistakes and put better performance into next match, chances to remain competitive are still very much open.

At least, with this defeat experienced by Liverpool, it will make competition in the upper zone of the standings more difficult, because so far at least their points are still close together. Although indeed, there is still Manchester City which is consistent with the results of winning in each match, but that does not mean Manchester City will not experience bad results or surprising  results like Liverpool experienced. Thus, I personally hope that no team really goes alone at the top of the standings, because that will make the league uncompetitive.

But indeed, with this defeat it might also be a big concern for Liverpool's next matches, whether Arne Slot will still be able to make Liverpool consistent with good results, or maybe there will be an up and down phase and if that happens, then Liverpool will be left behind in the title race this season.

 
The game was tough and rough for Arsenal but as a legend team they have to played a fair game to defend themselves. Tottenham Hotspur got 5 Yellow Cards and Arsenal got 3 Yellow Cards and only this told us that the Match was tough and rough. Arsenal used experienced won the game. And why I said experienced when they see that Tottenham Hotspur played more than them they have to retreat to the defense and played defense game till the end of the Match. Today was not Tottenham Hotspur lucky day to win the game if not they really play well.

Wolves vs Newcastle United is going on and Newcastle United as of now is oppressing Wolves but I still believe Wolves in the game.

The first shocking loss of Arne Slot era has happened. Nobody expected Liverpool to have even have a chance that they would lose to Notthingham Forrest but it did happen and that's the sad part. I think it's clear that we are going to end up seeing this situation change quite a lot and I believe that we are going see many more of these happen in the future as well, feels like Liverpool definitely looks not that much worse since Klopp left, but not suddenly a great dominant team neither.

It would have been ideal for them if they lost to some bigger club but in the end they would have lost eventually so they just got that out of the way. Same week, we see United and Chelsea both get a win, two teams that are dealing with a lot of chaos right now, so it's definitely a good thing for them without a doubt. Specially United, who looked quite convincing while they were winning as well.

It is the second half of the game now and Arsenal is still being defensive than attacking while Tottenham are massively attacking but however, it is there home ground and may not likely intend to loss at their home ground or better still has a draw match with Arsenal, the game is very hot and terrifying, the both teams are performing very well but things goes out of hand and Tottenham Hotspur pressures over increases more than what am seeing Arsenal may have no other options than loss the game against Tottenham Hotspur, but well it is not over until it is over let the end justify.

Arsenal is missing their entire midfielder. That's why they were so struggle, and their mid is kinda useless in this game. The problem is Jorginho, their midfielder. He can only play in games where they have most of the ball possession. Otherwise he's a liability. Also, i'd prefer to subs him with Nwaneri.

Martinelli has been so so fucking poor in this game, and he is often missing the ball.

It makes me nervous to see Arsenal's defense now. This is because spurs intensively attacking them. A very high tension of game.

Tottenham is no doubt playing well in the beginning of the match, but as the match goes on towards the 30th minutes of the match, Arsenal took over for a while even though Tottenham maintained their possession.

This match is a match that is yet to be predicted; both the host and the visitors are making good effort to score first. Arsenal is making more contact and has created more attempts on goal than Tottenham, but Tottenham was a bit strong and were also good defensively which is the reason the are yet to concede goals from Arsenal, and Arsenal also miss chance in the first half.

Seven yellow cards given so far, it shows that the match is a derby match and no team wants to lose easily. Nevertheless, the Premier League referees are not doing well, they denied Arsenal a penalty by not checking the incident in the VAR, and the yellow card is becoming much because I am expecting more in the second half.

Current score 0-0
Tottenham (Yellow cards) Udogir, Bentacur, Vicario, Van de Ven, Kulusevski
Arsenal (Yellow cards) Saliba and Timber

The first half of Tottenham vs Arsenal was full of yellow card drama, counting 5 cards for the home team and 2 for Arsenal. So far the match has been very tight and hot, it is possible that there will be 1 or 2 red cards in this match. Both are trading attacks, David Raya reacted very well, in my opinion it will be quite difficult to guess who will come out as the winner because their levels of ambition are almost the same. The second half will definitely be much more exciting than the first half because they have to score the ball faster.

The Arsenal Vs Tottenham game is getting problematic for the gunners, their mid field is weak, probably because of Rice's suspension, also Martin Odegaard's absence is affecting Saka's performance—He's not being fed with enough accurate passes. In addition, Tottenham is infiltrating their defense, and if they push more effort, Arsenal may be defeated in this match.

Tottenham is controlling the game confidently and arguably in this game especially within the midfield. Just 32 minutes within the first regular time around the clock in this game they are enjoying 68% ball possession while arsenal is having 32%. It seems Mikel Arteta has chosen to sit behind in this match because am not even seeing much of Bukayo Saka in the game due to the much defensiveness of Arsenal in the game.

Didn't see the game but Nuno Espirito has his ways of dealing with Liverpool even when he was manager of Wolverhampton years back.
Manchester United fans are so glad to see that Liverpool lost after they failed to secure a draw against Liverpool at Old Trafford.

Shout out to Erling Haaland who keeps banging these goals. Has he the chance of winning the Ballon d'or this season? His stats are hell crazy.
Oh stop crying for goodness sake and give him credits for the win they had yesterday. Giver better complements, most of y'all here will never be a great sportsman. Where's the spirit of sportsmanship in y'all? Laughable!

The ghanaian and British raised player, hudson odoi was a fuckin' stuner in the game... Imagine being substituted at the time and he brought the game back to life in the 72nd minute!
What's even more shocking is that the last time Nottingham forest won against Liverpool in Anne field was 55 years ago.

Liverpool also had an opportunity through Luiz Diaz, but unfortunately, it was saved by the cross bar..
shouldn't they rather consider it to be a fresh start off as the said manager isn't used to their game pattern? This is always the case 4 out of 10 times.
This is a little bit untrue as the performance was below the standard in Anne field.

And Liverpool back down to the earth. There is plenty of work for Slot to do after this loss. It has nothing to do with the fitness or injuries of the players.

I think Slot must be creating brainstorming sessions for his players on how to beat low blocks. though they are against a weak team such as Nottingham, but they struggle just to score. And this is due to the low block strategy used by their opponent. They always encountered this once they faced low block club.  This problem has plagued them repeatedly. And it must be stopped.

But, I'm more concerned about Slot's idea to fix Nottingham's low block by putting Trent at midfield. I don't think it would work. Losing more points can't be toleted caused by it's only helped City to widen its gap.

Liverpool got their first defeat of the season to Nottingham Forest, played at Anfield and had the status as the favorite but Liverpool failed to extend their winning record, Liverpool actually dominated the match very much but the hard work and unyielding attitude shown by the Nottingham Forest players were able to conquer Liverpool in front of their own supporters, I think the match gives hope for other teams to be able to compete fiercely at the top of the Premier League standings now, an other match that surprised me quite a bit was the comeback that Aston Villa was able to do in week 4, Aston Villa who played at home was actually two goals behind until the 36th minute from Everton, but the mentality and a slight change in strategy made by Unai Emery in the match made them able to comeback at the end of the match by defeating Everton 3-2.

Tottenham vs Arsenal match will be the first derby match to occur in the English league this season, the north london derby has been a match full of high intensity and also emotions, so don't expect us to see an easy match in the match, so far Arsenal has indeed been able to dominate the victory over Tottenham in the derby match but looking at what has happened to the current Arsenal squad of course I doubt they will win against Tottenham,  the storm of injuries that befell Arsenal is a loss for Arsenal and Tottenham will certainly take advantage of the fragility of Arsenal today to win the match later.

When I saw the odd of Liverpool to win Nottingham Forest, I knew something was wrong somewhere. For Liverpool that hasn't lost a game in their first 3 games to have such odd I knew something was cooking. I concluded that the game might end in a draw, but I never knew it was going to be a barring draw. To be on a safer side I place the bet both team to score. Although I wasn't too convinced that the match will end in a draw, so I saw both teams scores as a more realistic outcome. But it was very surprising to me that Liverpool couldn't score a goal in anfield, against Nottingham Forest team. Judging by how Liverpool has been hot since the start of the season, it was indeed a disappointing result for the anfield faithful. Nottingham Forest was able to claim a win for the first time in anfield after 55 years. It was indeed a sad day for Liverpool fans. Nottingham Forest has officially welcomed Arne Slot to the premier league.

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Disappointing outcome for Arne Slot and his boys right at home in front of the crowd of supporters roaring in the Anfield stadium. This is Nottingham Forest first win in Anfield in 55 years. Who would have thought Nottingham Forest would be able to pull off such a historic win today. Arne Slot will not be happy to be remembered as the manager who ended the streak. He’s been very critical of the players after the game:

There's another surprising result besides Liverpool losing against Nottingham. Brighton failed to win against Ipswich. I think that Brighton is one of the best playing teams in the Premier League and they will be competing for a place in Top 7. It's weird that the manager of Brighton is younger than some of his footballers. Maybe he will have a bright future as the next Jurgen Klopp or Jose Mourinho.
Another defeat for Everton. 3-2 against Aston Vila. I really hope that the blue team from Liverpool won't go to Championship in the next season. Man City, Man United and Chelsea didn't impress me, but they've won their matches and gathered 3 points.
I expect easy wins for Arsenal against Tottenham and for Newcastle against Wolverhampton.

No, I would not judge Man United as lucky in this match. Although I am not a MU fan and also dislike Ten Hag a little, but indeed Man United still has a very good striker. And regarding Onana who successfully thwarted the penalty kick by Southampton, actually it was not luck but Onana actually has good talent. It's just that Man United defense is still very weak and this is a problem that is currently being fixed by Ten Hag. We'll see when MU is able to improve the performance of the defense players, I'm sure Man United will perform even better.