Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 150. (Read 70588 times)

If you look at their score, I think Manchester would have won it easily. Manchester's Jeremy Duco and Mathis Nunes scored twice for their side with good work and pace. Jérémy Doku who added to his tally by scoring the first goal in the first 5 minutes. And scored this goal with his hard work and strength.  And will continue to play with the same form and the Manchester team will be strong.  And on the other hand Watford's Tom Ince who scored in the 86th minute to no avail, could have scored a second goal if he had a bit of stamina.  But Manchester players won the match by more than 1 goal. Manchester is getting stronger day by day and these defeats are few and far between now.

Manchester United have been getting progressively worse under their current manager so there are a lot of rumors about the manager being sacked. The management knew in advance that if the team is played one more season under this manager then the condition of the team may be worse this season but still the management gave this manager a chance to serve one more season. Now if the management wants to fire this manager then they have to pay him for the whole season and if they want to hire a new manager they have to pay for the whole season. If Manchester United can afford this money, they may decide to fire the manager at any time, and Manchester United may have to play under this manager for one more season.

Manchester United's performance is always like this, up and down. Even after they wasted 400 million buying the new players, they have not improved so far. They have no consistent style to control matches. Their subs often cause disarray. They also rarely make tactical tweaks to exploit opponents. They're cursed now.

The only solution is that Ten Hag out.

Tottenham and Manchester United both have the same point and a 4 goal differential, however I don't think their situation is similar because Manchester United has struggled to score against any opponent this season. The management's obvious trust in Ten Hag's after their poor performances in the previous two seasons is very annoying, but I'll follow your predictions as well both teams will score, and it's not safe to pick a side in that match.


Honestly, Manchester City could have scored more than two goals. Watford performed well defensively, preventing Manchester City from scoring goals. City dominated the match, with 73% ball possession, and 28 shots, 8 of them were on goal, and they only scored two goals. Although Watford was in the Premier League before being relegated in the last three seasons, finishing in 19th place, I believe that if Manchester City had started their first eleven players or didn't bench Haaland, they should have scored over two goals, but Guardiola allowed them to rest in a small game so they could face a big rival the weekend.

Arsenal's match looked so interesting with the many goals scored, a total of 6 goals in this match and Arsenal itself scored 5 goals and its opponent was only able to reply with 1 goal so that Arsenal was able to win with its own satisfaction.
But what I know is that Bolton is indeed in poor performance in league 1, he is ranked 19th and has suffered many defeats, so it is natural that Arsenal beat him with a landslide score.

Saw him through his first season, backed him through his second season bit damn man, I'm not doing that same shit this season. Though, I'm certain he's done better that Eddie Howe in the past two seasons but, it's high time Manchester United improves for real for real.
They're not so terrible but they should start winning games to shut up all of these criticisms from pundits, ex players, fans and sky sports.
Tottenham Hotspur are not even doing so well if you ask me, how well did they do against Arsenal? My lips are sealed of Erik Ten Hag do not get the necessary upgrades and improvements, them he should be shown the exit truthfully.

I think United plays well against Palace (at least for 1 hour or so), but they failed to convert their chances into goals. Can't blame the manager if the players don't perform at all. We can direct the blame to Ten Hag for his tactics or subs choice though. If he fails to win the next 4 matches or so, I think it's very likely that he will go in December. Don't know who can replace him and perform straight away in the EPL though.

I favor Spurs slightly, at least 55:45 for the next fixture. I believe Ange has a clearer identity compared to Ten Hag. That being said, their xGA is quite high at 1.00[1], although United is not that great either. United has a high xG if I remember correctly, but their goals are so few which means they failed to convert many good chances. Let's see if they can utilize Spurs' weakness or not this time. CMIIW.

[1] https://fbref.com/en/squads/361ca564/Tottenham-Hotspur-Stats

They just played a draw against Twente which means MU's performance is still not stable yet, Erik ten Hag must need strategy improvement to win the match on Old Trafford.  they haven't been able to find their best game plan like when destroyed 7-0 Barnsley on the league cup. We don't know what happen with them, even they were spent a lot of money in the transfer market, but their performance is the same like they don't have bought any new players. Both have the same record on Premier League which has 2 win, 2 lost and 1 draw on premier league, but Tottenham is better than MU on the last 2 matches. The spurs was able to create the winning on the last 2 match, and able to beat Coventry city away from home. I think draw is possible, but if MU's performance doesn't improve yet, Tottenham is possible to win the match with 1 goal difference.

There are not many teams that can compete against Manchester City. IMO Manchester City games are boring because their opponents have resigned their minds to play for at best a draw. I’m surprised you talked about the EFL and only mentioned Manchester City’s win. I think Arsenal’s 5-1 victory over Bolton is more current and should be talked about.

Slightly off-top as this is not a Premier league game, but Man City noted another win yesterday against Watford at home in the EFL cup 3rd round match, winning 2-1.
Not a spectacular win, looking only at the score, but City has created a lot of chances and Watford was lucky to only lose 2 goals. Guardiola let some first squad players to take a rest and gave the bench a chance, which was a good move.

On this match week, there is a Manchester United v Tottenham match. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think Erik ten Hag will be one step closer to getting sacked? 

After this terrible start to the season, I really can't predict his future here. Jim Ratcliffe wanted to give him another chance but there is still no improvement. Tottenham are a really tough opponent. Even though they are in a similar situation, they are still a big challenge for ten Hag's team. To tell the truth, my choice for bets would be both teams to score. I wouldn't bet on a side. 

Obviously they hope to make a Chinese wall in front of the goal. Another key is Man City's patience, They patiently continue to play the ball. So that Arsenal's great wall finally collapsed. This is also due to Arsenal playing with 10 men. I think Trossard's second yellow card was correct. He elbowed a Man City player on purpose. This condition makes Arsenal pile up players in front of the goal. Arsenal hopes to maintain the final result with a victory. But it was broken and 1 point I think it was very good for Arsenal.

In the match of Arsenal vs Manchester City we saw only dominance of Manchester City. Arsenal are very lucky in this match to secure 1 point from the match. If you compare the overall gameplay of the two teams, Arsenal will be far behind.

Arsenal played well in the first half of the match. They did not play defensively in the first half. Even after Manchester City scored the first goal of the match, Arsenal were leading 2–1 at the end of the first half. But Trossard's red card changed the entire scenario of the match. Arsenal's main and only task in the second half was to fend off Manchester City's attacks. In the second half Arsenal players did not make any attempt to score.

Yes yes, I understand , but Ten Hag doesn't make it so obvious, let's remember everything that happened with CR7 , and I saw all that in several places, although things may be as you say, personally I do have a lot of ideas about Ten Hag because he has shown it and he doesn't like it when he is Exposed , however it is only with him , the MU is for me still a very good club , but they have to get what they have from the true Red Devils, at least from the times when there was the Ferguson era , with that great team that were scary , now the MU is not Scary , they see it as a team that they can take the points from , and it is not because of its players because they have a great squad , it is because of its Direction , it is so that at this point they are Placed in 1st or 2nd fighting side by side with City.

Previously we saw that the match was quite aggressive from both teams even though in that match Manchester City was able to dominate a little over Arsenal, but Arsenal which got strong pressure from Manchester City, they were still able to rely on counterattacks to trouble Manchester City defense, the two teams continued to take turns attacking each other and that gave us an interesting spectacle in first half,  but after Arsenal got a red card and took a 2-1 lead over Manchester City then we see how Arteta instructed his players to defend completely in the second half ans make the match very boring to watch, outnumbered numbers player clearly forced Arteta to defend completely in the match to secure their victory, but unfortunately for Arsenal who since the start of the second half were able to maintain the advantage, precisely in the last minute they had to concede and force the match to end in a 2-2 draw.

Manchester City who took the lead first in the match actually appeared very dominant and if the opponent they were facing was not Arsenal, of course with the dominance statistics and also the shots they did maybe they would have won big in the match, the total defensive game implemented by Arsenal really frustrated manchester city players and even Guardiola had to lot make substitutions to increase the intensity of their attack in the match, the superior number of players in the match should have given them an advantage to win the match but at least Stone goal in the final minute could have prevented them from losing for the first time this season.

Last season he failed to score a goal against Arsenal after being closely guarded by saliba, but luckily in yesterday match Haaland was able to escape from Gabriel and saliba guard and score 1 goal after they were too late in anticipating Haland's movements, so far Haaland has recorded 10 goals in the Premier League and an additional 1 goal against. Arsenal made it equal to Ronaldo's record as the fastest goalscorer with 100 goals in 105 matches.

Liverpool have been performing at the start of this season as they did at the start of last season. Last season, Liverpool continued to perform well until the middle of the season, but they did not perform well towards the end. It must be a huge failure for any team that performs well for most of the season and goes from being number one in the points table to being bottom of the points table for most of the season. In your opinion, if Liverpool are doing better this season than last season, they have a better chance of winning the title this season. Liverpool will be delighted if they win the title this season but they need to continue their good performances.

Another unfortunate draw in the Sunday’s fixtures. It looks like Nottingham Forest are making a statement in the premier league this season, after defeating Liverpool at Anfield last weekend they go again to get a draw at Brighton’s home after taking lead. Nottingham were able to fight their way back from a 2-1 scoreline. For Sunday’s match against Chelsea, the odds are in Chelsea’s favor by 63%.

Once upon a time referees used to respect top matches like this and would tolerate lots of misconducts that normally will warrant a red card or second yellow just to keep the game in a balance. We don’t see those gestures anymore rather players are rashly being sent off weekly and matches going in favor of the other team. Michael Oliver is a “trigger happy” referee and his harsh officiating is killing the entertainment of the game.

Firstly I wouldn’t be defending any Referee from the premier league most especially not Michael Oliver, he has always been in the spot light for some seasons now and sadly he is currently one of the most senior referees in the league so we will definitely see him still taking charge of some of these top matches. Personally I feel like yesterday even though some calls were wrong he still actually got the major ones correct, the second yellow card to Trossard is actually justifiable because the kick of the ball a way is an act of aggression or say disrespect which is a yellow card offense although he as the referee can still be a little be considerate and pardon him it wouldn’t still be bad also,

As for Arsenal first goal that Manchester city players were screaming about it was a goal to me because Walker had already gone back into his own half so I don’t understand their feud. I also wanted Arsenal to win but the weren’t lucky. The six minutes added time was because of the time wasted most especially when Raya and Martinelli needed medical attention, the additional minutes was because the game hasn’t even started when the 92 minutes clocked and I notice something like the referee signaling a stop of time every time the ball was stopped and that’s what made the extended time. It was just a little bit hard on Arsenal to draw that game.