Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 149. (Read 70593 times)

This weekend, Manchester United will host Tottenham at Old Trafford. Both teams have started the 2024/2025 season poorly, both only managing to collect 7 points from 5 matches. Ten Hag must resolve the problems that have occurred in his team ahead of this big match, especially in the front line which has had difficulty scoring goals in the last two matches. Despite having a good head-to-head record against Tottenham, Manchester United hopes of ending their disappointing run of form will not be easy as Tottenham come to Old Trafford highly motivated after their 3-0 win over Qarabag in the EUL.


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Yes, Arsenal is a strong competitor of Manchester City in the last 2 seasons until entering the 3rd season now, maybe what @CLS63 meant is the 3rd club that is likely to hinder Manchester City's path in the title hunt like Liverpool last season so there will be 3 main competitors who will fight to appear consistently until the end and determine their victory at the end of the season, but for now it is not certain because the standings are still changing for the top 3 teams while being occupied by Manchester City, Liverpool and Aston Villa, Arsenal has been shifted to 4th place, the competition is still very fierce and we don't know which club will be worthy of occupying first or second place if they haven't played many matches at least until the middle of the season.

Liverpool still remains the 3rd team to join in the title race. They're still very consistent, despite a new coach after their old one retired. But there was no significant change happening to their performance, under their new coach. They still performed as well as last season when they competed with City and Arsenal for the title race.



 

Well, I have patience but I will not tolerate another bad season same way they did last season finishing below top four clubs in the Premier League Competition. Well, if Manchester United can not dominate now when Pep Guardiola is in charge, then there's nothing great about it. Did you see the way Liverpool did seasons ago against them? They've got Leny Yoro as back up player and plans to get in Jared Branthwaite still in place. I never liked Harry Maguire as a Manchester United defender from day one, too sluggish and a defender without pace is no different from an attacker that doesn't score and assist. Over 3.5? That's way brave of you, let's see then, interesting weekend ahead.

Looking at the head to head of both teams, Manchester united has won more than Tottenham but considering how Manchester united has been underperforming it won't be surprising if Tottenham wins them on sunday though the both teams are in similar form because Tottenham has only won 2 out of the 5 premier league matches they've played, same with Manchester united and they are 10th and 11th position in the league table respectively and have 7 points  each so the strength of the both teams seems equal and they might end the match in a draw. The Europa league games should not be compared with domestic league games because for the fact that Tottenham won their match against Qarabag and Manchester united played draw against Twente doesn't mean Tottenham is a better side.

I think the next match versus Newcastle, Manchester City will play all out to return their draw last week. As we know, the previous match it really frustrates them to get the winning with a parking bus strategy arsenal. They are not have a problem to carry out newcastle on their home because when we look head to head on previous session, Manc City just win all the matches. But we don't know how their performance without Rodry because he was get the injury in the previous match. he is a manc city core player as an anchor to supply the ball from back to attacker. so Rodry position is likely to be filled by another player which means Pep will implementing a new scheme to cover the gap.

What do you mean by a 3rd team joining the race for the league title. Arsenal are already up there with Manchester City as the most consistent team in the EPL. So if you’re talking about 3rd place, Arsenal shouldn’t be in that group. Arsenal have been the only team competing against Manchester City for the league in the last two seasons. We saw how City struggled against Arsenal’s 10 man squad during the weekend, Arteta has proved to be a great rival for Guardiola.

Maybe Liverpool or Chelsea can be considered for third place this season. 

It is really not easy to overthrow Manchester City from their championship streak in the Premier League. Arsenal have looked like the only team to do it in the recent years. But their main problem has been their being incapable of having a good run on the last weeks of a season. They lost their title chance twice because of that.

This season I wonder whether there will be a 3rd team joining this race. Maybe Liverpool or Chelsea. What is your opinion on the topic?  

I understand how disappointed you are right now seeing Man United's slump. But believe me, a beautiful day will come soon and I am very sure that this season will be the last season for Man United to get bad and in the coming season, MU will get better results.
Regarding Maguire, it is actually time for MU to find a replacement to get young players who are more productive and more aggressive to contribute to the team.

BTW, regarding the upcoming match, it is likely that betting on over 3.5 is my choice with odds @2.06.

I see no way to deny that Arsenal have played very well in the last two seasons. This team has performed very well. Despite several weaknesses in the squad, Arsenal's players continued to fight for the title until the end of the season.

But I have given reasons for Arsenal's failure to win the title. Arsenal played very well but failed to win the title. And in my opinion there was only one reason why Arsenal didn't win the title in two seasons. And this season Arsenal have added more talented players to their squad. So Arsenal's performance is likely to be erratic after an injury to a key striker in the squad.

I won't say Tottenham can defeat Manchester United but if Tottenham wins the game it should not be a surprise to us because we all know that Manchester United is not a team that people can trust and believe that they will win the game, Manchester united performance both premier league and Europa league is so bad, Manchester united last game against Fc twente was very poor because Manchester united can not defeat that small team and win the game to get 3 points.

But If Manchester United did not sack Erik ten Hag in January next year and got another coach when the transfer window opened the team would have ended up in relegation position at the end of the season because having a coach like Erik ten Hag doesn't know how to use the player's is like wasting the team effort, Manchester united president needs to look at the other team and how they are doing when they sack the coach that can not help the team, but if Manchester United fans are happy with him then no problem they are the one that will not be happy when the team is playing, and also about the upcoming of Manchester united against Tottenham I don't think Manchester united can win because Tottenham performance is better than Manchester United this season.

Don't just judge it from the negative side because in fact, Arsenal under Arteta has managed to become a team that is consistent at the top of the standings. Not only that, in fact last season regarding the trophy-winning team, it was actually determined in the last match between Manchester City and Arsenal, but Manchester City still managed to get the trophy. But even so, Arsenal remains a strong team in the fight for trophies at least in the last two seasons.

Although Arsenal still failed to win the trophy, in fact Arteta managed to make Arsenal dominate the Premier League throughout the season and of course that is an impressive achievement. Because after all, the competition in the Premier League  has proven to have very tough  competition compared to other leagues, but Arsenal managed to make it difficult for Manchester City to get the trophy and that is also a good achievement for Arsenal.

I think it was an innocent mistake from RockBell because Manchest United is far from winning the league and I think that should be the last thing on their mind now . When discussing the league winners, apart from Manchester City, clubs that comes to mind are Arsenal and Liverpool. Aston Villa will even be counted before Manchester United.

When it comes to Arsenal, Manchester City have not been finding it easy winning them for several of their meetings. That is to say that Arsenal have come to be established as their strongest rival especially from last season till date. Their two all draw last weekend was therefore, not a surprising result to me because I expected a very tight match just like we saw.

Tottenham Hotspur hasn't been consistent this season with their results but there's no doubting the fact that they've been a better team than Manchester United. We all saw how Dutch club Twente was able to get a draw last night against Manchester United so it's very possible for Tottenham who I think is better than Twente to go to Old Trafford this weekend and get a win.
Personally, I'll be happy to see Tottenham Hotspur defeat Manchester United so that the management of the Manchester club can finally show the club manager the exit door. Manchester United in my own opinion deserves a better manager than the Dutchman and the earlier they get him sacked, the better for the club.

Arsenal's main weakness was that their bench team was not strong. The coach had very limited talent pool. So when a player suffers an injury, the coach does not have a qualified replacement. And this is why this team could not dominate the Premier League in the last two seasons. In the last two seasons, we have seen Arsenal's overall performance erratic whenever a key player in the squad suffered an injury. And Arsenal's bench team is not strong this season either. Arsenal's performance so far has been very consistent. However, I think Arsenal's performance will deteriorate if any key player in Arsenal's squad suffers from injury.

Manchester City and Guardiola have set a new record as a team and coach who are able to win the English league in a row, we cannot deny that the once triumphant era of Manchester United has been replaced by their eternal rivals, but the extent to which Manchester City can to maintain their current glory after being involved in many cases, of course be difficult to answer.
But even so, we cannot deny that the glory that Manchester United once had before has sunk after Manchester City transformed as a rich team in Manchester.

The 2-2 draw with Manchester City in the previous game is our reference to say their chances of this season are better, but I think we can't expect too much from Arsenal to remember what happened last season, Arsenal were able to hold Manchester City with score 0-0  at the Etihad Stadium and beat them at the Emirates Stadium 1-0, But in reality, Arsenal actually slumped at the end of the season and handed over the championship trophy to Manchester City after they had been guarding it since the beginning of the season.

Let's not forget to give Erik Ten Hag his flowers when he deserves them. He has been tactically wonderful at times, but it is visible that the squad lacked consistency majorly. I think as much as I can credit Ten Hag for his tactical brilliance, his man management is poor, he also is bad at signing players and getting them accustomed to his style. The way the club plays most of their games does reflect the plan that ETH is trying to instill. But there are visible shortcomings, from the players, from the ideas.


After today's match against Twente, ETH tried to defend on press briefing.

I think ETH tries to do a lot of things, but not most of it gets reflected on the team. As much as we should criticize, there are times when the players do need to be held accountable and responsible for their shortcomings. He can teach them a lot of things but if they are unable to display the learnings on the field, it's not his fault, is it? The players need to be a lot more consistent and responsible. ManUtd also have a lot of players coming back next week, so I am sure they go back to winning ways now.

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You mean Manchester City, mate? Man City and Man united are two different football clubs though both from the same city. Anyway both top teams but it is Man city that is the defending champion and has been champions for the last 4 seasons. Entering this season, many expect them to take their 5th consecutive championship but all runs have an end. Will it be this season?
Arsenal was really close to beating Man City last season I feel like they can have a good chance this season. They also seem to be in pretty good shape winning a 5-1 against Bolton.

even if Manchester United has won they are not doing very well themself this season and I so much expect them to do better since they are the defending champions and the title might shift from their table i am trying to observe Arsenal this season because I am so much expecting a lot from them this season and also Liverpool so the title is still going to be around the top three this is something that has happened last season and it is still going to happen this season but with a different champion.

And City has always been lucky to have Foden in their team and also other great players and the first goal was almost lost yesterday Grealish gave a good assist, and this is Manchester City for you they will always want to win at the expense of everything pep did not take the game to be that serious and that should be the reason why pep was even allowing most of the first squad to rest. so that they will be able to partake in other serious games and that is one strategy that Pep will always pull out.

It was clear that Gues is out of the Manchester City League and we need to understand these things practically pep always knows what he is doing he as all the experience to make all the decisions he can to improve because even in the premier league they have not been able to make any crazy win so they are still hoping for arsenal.

I have nothing to say about Erik Ten Hag no more, I'm gradually becoming tired like every other Manchester United fan who wants quick change because Manchester United has been known to be a very good side over the years truthfully.
Odds are not used to decide games you should have known better, we'll see how Tottenham Hotspur does tonight then, we can now judge how well they'll do against Manchester United on Sunday at  Old Trafford. Having Harry Maguire in the defense is something I don't want to see no more. Too much touches on the ball and has no pave, in between, a good short and close range passer of the ball. Both teams scoring could happen but it's a win or draw for Manchester United.