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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 28, 2024, 02:51:36 PM

So far there are 4 clubs starting with 2 wins in 2 weeks; Manchester City, Brighton, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Especially Brighton caught my attention. You know De Zerbi has left the club for Marseille. I was really wondering who the next coach would be and what they would do. They have signed Fabian Hürzeler and I have heard about his name for the first time then. For now he is doing well. I really liked their signing of Ferdi Kadıoğlu also. He is a very talented left-back.

I think Ferdi will be in the starting eleven. Estupiñán is injured and his return is unknown. Brighton has been using the 19-year-old Hinshelwood temporarily there who is normally a right-back.

I was feeling fearful with De Zerbi leaving, but it’s actually been the best move for us. And the good part is my fearful was not happening. We're getting even better without him.

I think you have not yet noticed that if we're having a good start with Fabian Hürzeler. We have recorded perfect results pre-season and EPL till now. And my expectations remain the same. Mid table or higher for us.

My rating is currently for our squad is 7/10, i consider sometimes we won through bad game, good score. But if we win against Arsenal soon, i change it to 10/10

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Quote from: topbitcoin on August 28, 2024, 05:13:15 PM

-snip-I am personally still quite confident that Arsenal can still be consistent in the hunt for points at the start of this season even though Brighton are also quite stable but Arsenal seem to be more able to maximize the benefits of team strength and playing at home.

Despite their good performances in the last 2 games against Everton and Manchester United, I think the game against Arsenal will be different. Arsenal were runners-up last season and they are still consistent this season. I am not underestimating Brighton but Arsenal are a different team to the previous two. Both have 6 points but it is still early in the season so it does not mean Brighton are on the same level as Arsenal. I think we can put Brighton as underdogs because of their form which sometimes can beat big clubs. It will be a win for Arsenal but I think it will be a narrow win.

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Quote from: baeva on August 28, 2024, 04:45:32 PM

I think that Brighton will not be able to resist Arsenal, who are in very good form at the moment. I think that Arsenal are looking much better than last season, so it will be very difficult to beat them. Although Brighton have been showing good results lately, their professionalism is still not enough to compete with such a top team. Moreover, it is not certain that Brighton will continue their streak of success considering how they performed last season. We should watch them longer

Not to undermine what Brighton has done already this season, they don’t look like a team that actually just lost their head coach, I have been saying all the time that Brighton success or say pattern of play actually doesn’t necessarily depends on which person that is in their dugout, this Brighton team have a way where their actual keep their playing style still the same, I could remember when Graham Potter left them for Chelsea many actually thought that Brighton will be in crisis but after Some months it was actually the Chelsea team that issues. Same thing was said when De Zerbi left as why Brighton will find it hard to keep up with the other teams but today they are ding just too fine.

Still with the Brighton club looking promising this season I don’t see them getting to take points off Arsenal except they grow better which will require more time that they have got to face them now. Against Manchester United the Red Devils would have easily won but they lack the firing power at the front and that’s why the game ended the way it did. But as for Arsenal we all know that they are a much better team than Manchester United and my predictions is that they will win

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Quote from: tusandii on August 27, 2024, 07:41:48 AM

This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.

Yeah, this match will be quite interesting because after all for now the positive trend owned by Brighton at the beginning of the season will certainly give them more hope to become one of the clubs that can be a stumbling block for big clubs.
But Arsenal's mentality has certainly been tested especially when they will play home in the match later and of course the hope that they are still one of the clubs that can be a competitor for Manchester City of course this will provide more opportunities for Arsenal so they can get a victory in this match.

I am personally still quite confident that Arsenal can still be consistent in the hunt for points at the start of this season even though Brighton are also quite stable but Arsenal seem to be more able to maximize the benefits of team strength and playing at home.

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Quote from: Stable090 on August 28, 2024, 04:47:28 PM

Quote from: klidex on August 28, 2024, 12:14:57 AM

I think Chelsea will be the favourites to win this match they have a 60% chance of winning while Crystal Palace have 19% which is a very big difference but their chance of drawing is 21% I expect a win in this match and I mean Chelsea and did the same to Wolves before.

I don’t think Crystal Palace will be able to win or draw Chelsea. I really like the way Enzo is trying to build the Chelsea squad, the only position that I will say Enzo really has to work on here is their defensive line, which I am sure Enzo will look into, but even with a weak Chelsea defense, Crystal Palace will find it difficult to win Chelsea. I am expecting a goal from Crystal Palace, but they won’t be able to win the match. Chelsea played well in the last two matches, even though they lost one. They still played well in the match because they both dominated the match, which most people never expected, and scoring so many goals in their last match is really a nice one.

This is still possible to happen especially with Chelsea's conditions which can indeed be unexpected just like the previous season and the surprises that Crystal Palace always give like last season when facing big clubs, the chance of a draw is still there.

Indeed, when talking about the depth of the squad and mentality, especially after Chelsea managed to win with a landslide score in the previous match, 3 points is indeed a fixed price for them. But we cannot close the fact that sometimes Chelsea's performance is always unpredictable from one match to another so this needs to be considered.
But it is not wrong indeed in this match Chelsea is the favorite because after all playing at home with high confidence can make the performance and attack schemes carried out will be more confident to do.

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Quote from: klidex on August 28, 2024, 12:14:57 AM

I think Chelsea will be the favourites to win this match they have a 60% chance of winning while Crystal Palace have 19% which is a very big difference but their chance of drawing is 21% I expect a win in this match and I mean Chelsea and did the same to Wolves before.

I don’t think Crystal Palace will be able to win or draw Chelsea. I really like the way Enzo is trying to build the Chelsea squad, the only position that I will say Enzo really has to work on here is their defensive line, which I am sure Enzo will look into, but even with a weak Chelsea defense, Crystal Palace will find it difficult to win Chelsea. I am expecting a goal from Crystal Palace, but they won’t be able to win the match. Chelsea played well in the last two matches, even though they lost one. They still played well in the match because they both dominated the match, which most people never expected, and scoring so many goals in their last match is really a nice one.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 27, 2024, 07:41:48 AM

This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.

The match will be interesting but luck and hard work will be with one and only after watching that match will you know which team is play with hard work and which one is not. If you keep both the perform at par then it will be difficult to predict between them and the match is also interest so it should be interesting to predict. But I could be wrong but my predictions are mostly correct. But I will prefer Brighton because they are fast and good team and I will also predict this match in their favor. If they do not work hard then the opposing team should win the match with hard work. Yes if they show hard work and speed, then the match is theirs.

I think that Brighton will not be able to resist Arsenal, who are in very good form at the moment. I think that Arsenal are looking much better than last season, so it will be very difficult to beat them. Although Brighton have been showing good results lately, their professionalism is still not enough to compete with such a top team. Moreover, it is not certain that Brighton will continue their streak of success considering how they performed last season. We should watch them longer

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 28, 2024, 02:51:36 PM

So far there are 4 clubs starting with 2 wins in 2 weeks; Manchester City, Brighton, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Especially Brighton caught my attention. You know De Zerbi has left the club for Marseille. I was really wondering who the next coach would be and what they would do. They have signed Fabian Hürzeler and I have heard about his name for the first time then. For now he is doing well. I really liked their signing of Ferdi Kadıoğlu also. He is a very talented left-back.

I think Ferdi will be in the starting eleven. Estupiñán is injured and his return is unknown. Brighton has been using the 19-year-old Hinshelwood temporarily there who is normally a right-back.

Yes, only 4 teams have managed to win 6 points in the last 2 games. I am disappointed with Manchester United, of course because they had to accept defeat to Brighton in the previous game. We should have been able to maintain a 1-1 draw, but the concentration in the final minutes was very chaotic which then led to Onana conceding his second goal.

For the next match, I hope the 3 points can really be secured. I know Liverpool is a stronger team, but we have to prove that the home game will be a great night. The low probability of winning is something that is underestimated for Manchester United, but I hope that is a mistake.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on August 28, 2024, 01:48:25 AM

Arsenal will take on Brighton on August 31st in a battle to outshine each other. These two teams have played two matches each in the Premier League so far, where both teams have achieved 6 points and with these 66 points, the two teams are at the second and third position of the points table respectively. In the next match one team may have nine points and another team may have six points and two teams may have equal points if the result of the match is a draw. Brighton have performed well so far this season but their chances of winning against Arsenal are slim. If we talk about the last five matches where the two teams played against each other we can see that Arsenal have won three matches and Brighton have won two matches which means that Arsenal are more likely to win the upcoming match.

I do think that Brighton actually has a great chance here, while many people disagree with me, I think it's a possibility and we could of course see him do better than expected. We should realize that it is not going to be all that crazy, we can see Brighton to be doing something right at the moment, which should be the most main point, there is nothing wrong with that.

I understand everyone expects Arsenal to win because they are better, but the reality is that we are seeing the current situation to be different, and because of that we should consider how we can make a move later on as well. It's clear that we are going to see something changing, and because of that we should be careful with what we have and bet carefully, just because Arsenal is expected to win, doesn't mean they will, Brighton has been great.

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So far there are 4 clubs starting with 2 wins in 2 weeks; Manchester City, Brighton, Arsenal and Liverpool.

Especially Brighton caught my attention. You know De Zerbi has left the club for Marseille. I was really wondering who the next coach would be and what they would do. They have signed Fabian Hürzeler and I have heard about his name for the first time then. For now he is doing well. I really liked their signing of Ferdi Kadıoğlu also. He is a very talented left-back.

I think Ferdi will be in the starting eleven. Estupiñán is injured and his return is unknown. Brighton has been using the 19-year-old Hinshelwood temporarily there who is normally a right-back.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 28, 2024, 04:32:43 AM

By the way Brighton has completed the signing of Turkish LB Ferdi Kadıoğlu officially. Wink

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1828503820755747262

They are going to pay 30 million euros fixed fee and there are bonuses worth 5 million too. Considering his talent level, I believe Brighton has signed him for a quite decent price. I thought it would be 40+ million first.

Ferdi started his career as a trequartista actually. But Vitor Pereira made a great LB out of him while he was managing Fenerbahçe back in the day. Now he is the best Turkish LB in my opinion.

I hope he can do well at Brighton as well.

Ferdi Kadıoğlu transfer to Brighton can prove to be the transfer of the season. Brighton just showed how good they are in terms of transfer business in this window. Strengthened all their areas with quality but underrated players, so they pay less fees.
Ferdi is someone who can play at Left back, but he can also play left mid and he is so good at attacking that even if they need an LW, he can fill in there. But definitely, his main position would be the LB for sure.

The smaller teams like Brighton, West Ham even Ipswich had a pretty decent transfer window. Now don't come at me for calling them small teams, it's just that they are mid table clubs, or at least they have been. Now they can use these good players, and with the right mindset, they can be very good for sure.

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Quote from: klidex on August 28, 2024, 12:14:57 AM

Quote from: Mr.right85 on August 27, 2024, 12:08:33 AM

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They’ll host their London rival, Crystal Palace at Stamford Bridge this weekend. I’m expecting an exciting game and I tip them to replicate this form.

I think Chelsea will be the favourites to win this match they have a 60% chance of winning while Crystal Palace have 19% which is a very big difference but their chance of drawing is 21% I expect a win in this match and I mean Chelsea and did the same to Wolves before. In the statistics of their meetings Chelsea have won 5 matches against Crystal Palace so I think the bookies will give Chelsea small Odds bets, I am sure Enzo Maresca's men will do their best and not disappoint like their first match at home.

I think, Crystal Palace also started the season with bad results because after all, although in the previous two matches Crystal Palace at least played against teams that basically have lower quality than Chelsea, but Crystal Palace was also unable to get points. Moreover, the big 2-6 victory that Chelsea got in the previous match against Wolves, will certainly be a trigger for Chelsea to keep getting good results also for the next match against Crystal Palace.

After all, the fact that Chelsea really has a good dominance of victory also against Crystal Palace based on head to head, plus the factor of playing at home, of course I personally still believe Chelsea will win. Because after all, Enzo Maresca and the team will certainly be responsible for paying for the defeat at home in the early match. Although in the early match it can be said to be reasonable result because the opponent is Manchester City, but as one of the top Premier League teams, of course Chelsea will succeed for fans happy with the home victory later.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on August 28, 2024, 12:56:28 AM

I know it’s too early to pass judgment on underperforming teams and top 4 teams right now as the season just started. But But I can guess relegation candidates today.

Everton
Ipswich
Southampton
Leicester city.

Everton that has very good defense during the run in last season have conceded the most goals so far this season. They don’t look good right now. They don’t really put in much defensive work like they did last season.

The contenders for the league title will be very glaring by Game week 5. Liverpool plays Manchester United & Arsenal plays Spurs within that sequence. I think it’s good to play the big games as early as possible, before they know the best player combinations.

Based on the performances from these teams so far, I will agree with you because they don’t look prepared for a fresh season especially Everton that have been in the Premier League last season. For Ipswich Town, I think they can strive against teams that of similar caliber with them, and they can do well if they changes their mentality; same as the Championship Champions Leicester. Leicester that won the Championship should have done better because they have more Premier League experience than Ipswich, but they sold some of their players and they change their coach as well; these decisions affected their squad which will make their adaptation to Premier League to be hard. Nevertheless, it is too early to make such predictions, therefore, anything can change.

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Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on August 27, 2024, 03:57:44 PM

But looking at the conditions now I don't think this will be easy for Arsenal even though they are still very favorite because of the superior quality of players and playing home but we can see that in the first 2 matches Brighton's performance is quite good.
Both clubs also have quite good productivity in the first 2 matches so I think this will be more interesting where surely both clubs can score goals although I will bet on Arsenal in this match.

Their goal productivity is quite good but on the other hand their defense is also not to be underestimated so in this case I think there are likely to be 2 choices where both teams can score goals and they can also be troubled in scoring goals because the defense of these two clubs is quite good.

What is clear is that this match will be very worth watching and for the problem of the winner in this match it seems that everyone hopes Arsenal can be the winner but on several occasions Brighton could surprise especially with the performance they have now it seems they want to be considered a dark horse club again after last season they were not very effective and lost in the competition in the EPL top standings.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on August 28, 2024, 01:48:25 AM

Arsenal will take on Brighton on August 31st in a battle to outshine each other. These two teams have played two matches each in the Premier League so far, where both teams have achieved 6 points and with these 66 points, the two teams are at the second and third position of the points table respectively. In the next match one team may have nine points and another team may have six points and two teams may have equal points if the result of the match is a draw. Brighton have performed well so far this season but their chances of winning against Arsenal are slim. If we talk about the last five matches where the two teams played against each other we can see that Arsenal have won three matches and Brighton have won two matches which means that Arsenal are more likely to win the upcoming match.

If you are talking about Arsenal's performance, I have no idea of their performance. And they have a match against Bayern, so I hope and their performance will beat Bayern. Because recently Bayern have played very good matches and won them. So I'll back Bayern to win. Well, I could be wrong and this match will be very interesting because of the back to back talk. And these are their points clearly telling that their competition is going to be very tough. Because there is a single point difference and he will be out of the match. Therefore, both the teams should accelerate and work harder, but if the victory goes to one of them, it will be known only after seeing the result. Yes you are right but Bayern can beat Arsenal if they play hard.And now waiting for the match to see who will win the match and who won't.

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Quote from: mamesso on August 28, 2024, 09:13:08 AM

Obviously, Chelsea will be the favorites in this match. The difference in quality is very clear between the two, Chelsea immediately bounced back after being defeated by Manchester City. In the second EPL game played at Wolves' headquarters, they managed to beat the hosts with a score of 6-2, the increasing goal productivity will make them achieve another big win at Stamford Bridge. I never hesitate to bet on Chelsea even though the bookies give Chelsea small odds, the results achieved by Crystal Palace in the two EPL matches have given me confidence that Chelsea will win the match by more than two goals.

With a big win when visiting Wolves FC's headquarters, Chelsea will now be much more confident to play their 3rd match in the Premier League. They will host Crystal Palace in week 3. Crystal Palace themselves had to suffer defeat in their first 2 matches, in the first week they lost to Brentford and in the second week they also lost to West Ham.
This is a great opportunity for Chelsea to be able to get full points again. Taking advantage of the opponent's morale which is not in good condition and also having great morale after they won with a landslide score previously.

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Quote from: asriloni on August 28, 2024, 08:44:28 AM

Quote from: Mr.right85 on August 28, 2024, 12:56:28 AM

I know it’s too early to pass judgment on underperforming teams and top 4 teams right now as the season just started. But But I can guess relegation candidates today.

Everton
Ipswich
Southampton
Leicester city.

Everton that has very good defense during the run in last season have conceded the most goals so far this season. They don’t look good right now. They don’t really put in much defensive work like they did last season.

I think i must exclude Everton from that list. I've seen that many times Everton fell to the relegation zone. But, they always escaped it by the end of the season. That's why I'd prefer to call that Everton to be a relegation bait club. It's hard to call that a coincidence caused by them repeating it numerous times on them.

I’m sure the rest of the club, except Everton, will be relegated to the Championship. But, Leicester could stay longer if they fix their problems.

I think we can't judge the team too quickly to be relegated, especially if I see if the 3 teams on the list are clubs that are promoted this season to the English league, so I don't know what your reason is for saying if they will be relegated again, the fact is that all this time apart from Ipswich Town, I think teams like Leicester City, Southampton and Everton cannot be underestimated given their experience so far in the Premier League.
Everton who last season had a lot of problems and continued to get points deductions due to FA penalties but their are still able to survive in the Premier League until now, then why should we underestimate them just because two games have conceded a lot, besides that Leicester City and Southampton are teams that have managed promotion and previously they were teams that continue to inhabit the EPL mid-table so I think it's too easy for us to underestimate them at the moment, If only based on the temporary goal conceded as the reason for relegation, shouldn't we also include Wolves in that the list considering that they have conceded 6 goals at the moment?

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Quote from: klidex on August 28, 2024, 12:14:57 AM

Quote from: Mr.right85 on August 27, 2024, 12:08:33 AM

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They’ll host their London rival, Crystal Palace at Stamford Bridge this weekend. I’m expecting an exciting game and I tip them to replicate this form.

I think Chelsea will be the favourites to win this match they have a 60% chance of winning while Crystal Palace have 19% which is a very big difference but their chance of drawing is 21% I expect a win in this match and I mean Chelsea and did the same to Wolves before. In the statistics of their meetings Chelsea have won 5 matches against Crystal Palace so I think the bookies will give Chelsea small Odds bets, I am sure Enzo Maresca's men will do their best and not disappoint like their first match at home.

Obviously, Chelsea will be the favorites in this match. The difference in quality is very clear between the two, Chelsea immediately bounced back after being defeated by Manchester City. In the second EPL game played at Wolves' headquarters, they managed to beat the hosts with a score of 6-2, the increasing goal productivity will make them achieve another big win at Stamford Bridge. I never hesitate to bet on Chelsea even though the bookies give Chelsea small odds, the results achieved by Crystal Palace in the two EPL matches have given me confidence that Chelsea will win the match by more than two goals.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on August 28, 2024, 12:56:28 AM

I know it’s too early to pass judgment on underperforming teams and top 4 teams right now as the season just started. But But I can guess relegation candidates today.

Everton
Ipswich
Southampton
Leicester city.

Everton that has very good defense during the run in last season have conceded the most goals so far this season. They don’t look good right now. They don’t really put in much defensive work like they did last season.

I think i must exclude Everton from that list. I've seen that many times Everton fell to the relegation zone. But, they always escaped it by the end of the season. That's why I'd prefer to call that Everton to be a relegation bait club. It's hard to call that a coincidence caused by them repeating it numerous times on them.

I’m sure the rest of the club, except Everton, will be relegated to the Championship. But, Leicester could stay longer if they fix their problems.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on August 28, 2024, 12:56:28 AM

I know it’s too early to pass judgment on underperforming teams and top 4 teams right now as the season just started. But But I can guess relegation candidates today.

Everton
Ipswich
Southampton
Leicester city.

I hope you exclude Everton and Leicester from the relegation candidates this season. There is nothing wrong with us speculating but I think we also have to be careful in making that decision because in the second half of the season, the transfer window reopens and at that time some teams that look weak will surprise us all. I am not a fan of both teams but maybe you should look back at how Everton experience has survived in the EPL for more than a decade. That is proof that a team like Everton must have been able to overcome problems that could prevent the team from being relegated. Maybe Leicester could have to leave the EPL but I am still sure it will not happen this season. And one thing we must know now is that Everton current condition is only temporary.

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