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Quote from: el kaka22 on June 07, 2024, 09:49:44 AM

Teams that needs to sell players before they can continue is a trouble. I am sure they are going to definitely figure something out and sell some players and make it, but that type of law is making things harder for clubs.

This does not mean that City is right, because what City is fighting for is basically any owner should be able to put up any amount of money they want, and that is definitely not the way to go and would leave a lot of clubs in big debt if that was allowed, FA is trying to make sure that they have some limitations to make sure clubs can sustain. However, I also believe that FA is putting a too short of a lead as well, they are just making it super hard to compete, and that is not going to be all that possible if you ask me.

When there is a wealthy owner and is able to buy many great players for me it is not a problem, because the problem is when they exceed the limits that have been set. Maybe something like that makes Manchester City violate but anyway, as long as they don't have a big debt and still have healthy finances then I think it's not a problem either. Indeed, I don't really know the problem that actually happened, so there are rumors that Manchester City will get punished. But as far as I remember, it seems that the problems at Manchester City have been raised also from the previous season or from a few seasons ago. But anyway, the reality is Manchester City is still fine because anyway, I think Manchester City also did not do any cheating like for example Juventus who cheated about the score or something like that there.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 07, 2024, 10:00:34 AM

Quote from: Oluwa-btc on June 05, 2024, 01:38:06 PM

If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

First of all, Manchester City has a great squad full of big talents. It is really not easy to see them out of the title race for me to tell the truth. But the absence of the names you mentioned would of course cause them to lose some blood.

Especially De Bruyne's departure would hit them the hardest. Sad

He is like the brain of this team. There is a visible difference between the time he is in the game and out of it. If Bernardo Silva leaves his absence would also be felt. Ederson is a really good goalkeeper. But I think they can still find another decent player like him. I think Bernardo Silva will stay but I'm not sure about De Bruyne. He is 32 so maybe he might want to play for a Saudi team from now on...

Without these players, I doubt Manchester City could retain the trophy. KDB and Bernando were the masterminds of the attack which gave Manchester City more opportunities. If these 2 players really leave it will be difficult for Haaland or Foden to score goals. I suspect that behind KDB and Bernando desire to leave is because Pep Guardiola will also leave at the end of next season. News like this is certainly highly expected by Arsenal. Because that will bring them closer to the trophy.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on June 07, 2024, 05:01:12 AM

Arsenal failed to capitalize on the opportunities they had to increase their points in the middle and that's where they fell well behind Manchester City. When Manchester City came back in the second leg of the season, they performed well in their next matches and regularly earned full points. If Manchester City can come back after falling behind Arsenal then why Arsenal could not come back from that situation. At one point in the season we thought that Liverpool might win the English Premier League title because Liverpool had more points than Manchester City and Arsenal at that time but towards the end Liverpool lost points and this is where they were knocked out of the title race. There is no idea how competitive Liverpool will be with Manchester City and Arsenal next season, but we can definitely expect Arsenal to do well next season.

They said that opportunity come, but once that's what happens to Arsenal, they refuse to capitalize on the chance they have against Aston Villa. If I can remember when Manchester City was in the third position and Arsenal was leading the top standing by then, all my expectations is that Arsenal can definitely dominate this season English Premier League. With the gap of points they have between Manchester City and Liverpool, people were hoping for them that they would not drop any points with the way they improved their performance at that time, but they refused to maintain their consistency. That's why Arsenal failed to win the Premier League this season.

With the way every club ends this season with a good performance, the next coming season won't be easy for every club because there will be competition between them, especially Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manchester City. There own will be the worst one with how those three teams giving each other pressure until the end of the season. Let us wait and see if Arsenal can make the fans happy and put a smile on Mikel Arteta's face in the next Premier League.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on June 05, 2024, 01:38:06 PM

If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

The three star players you mentioned are of course players who have contributed greatly to Manchester City ability to win various trophies, but I think losing these three players will certainly not necessarily make Manchester City weak and out of the title competition next season, Guardiola built Manchester City with a collective principle and relied more on teamwork than an individual player, So I think every player who leaves later will not have too big an effect on the team performance, including the loss of Kevin de Bruyne, Bernardo Silva and also Ederson.

The coming and going of players in a team is of course a common thing, including if Manchester City loses the three players, of course with the finances they have, it will be easy for Manchester City to get another player who can indeed replace the position left behind, of the three players, maybe only Kevin de Bruyne will be difficult for them to get a replacement later although indeed currently there are many young and great midfielders but I think it will be It's hard to get a midfielder as smart and complete like Kevin De Bruyne.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on June 05, 2024, 01:38:06 PM

If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.

First of all, Manchester City has a great squad full of big talents. It is really not easy to see them out of the title race for me to tell the truth. But the absence of the names you mentioned would of course cause them to lose some blood.

Especially De Bruyne's departure would hit them the hardest. Sad

He is like the brain of this team. There is a visible difference between the time he is in the game and out of it. If Bernardo Silva leaves his absence would also be felt. Ederson is a really good goalkeeper. But I think they can still find another decent player like him. I think Bernardo Silva will stay but I'm not sure about De Bruyne. He is 32 so maybe he might want to play for a Saudi team from now on...

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Teams that needs to sell players before they can continue is a trouble. I am sure they are going to definitely figure something out and sell some players and make it, but that type of law is making things harder for clubs.

This does not mean that City is right, because what City is fighting for is basically any owner should be able to put up any amount of money they want, and that is definitely not the way to go and would leave a lot of clubs in big debt if that was allowed, FA is trying to make sure that they have some limitations to make sure clubs can sustain. However, I also believe that FA is putting a too short of a lead as well, they are just making it super hard to compete, and that is not going to be all that possible if you ask me.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 07, 2024, 05:56:27 AM

Several seasons ago, Manchester City received punishment from UEFA with a 2 season ban from playing in the Champions League as well as a fine of several million euros but this was canceled by CAS, and several accusations against City were also addressed to several clubs in the English Premier League, strangely enough, these two clubs immediately received sanctions while City is still safe, so some say City will be safe from all charges and will remain in the English Premier League.
However, if they get punished, I think whatever punishment they face, this team will be able to recover quickly because the money this club has is huge, being relegated to the championship is not a problem for City for one season and then returning to the English Premier League, except for the current owner decided to sell it and we can see that several clubs that have experienced a change of ownership are experiencing difficulties in competing and this could be what City will face.

The financial strength possessed by Manchester City not only makes them a trophy conqueror club in every competition they participate in, but even they seem to be very immune to all the charges they have received so far, 115 charges that have existed and the absence of any follow-up from the English league authorities of course indicates that there is something wrong with the current English league. Unlike financially weak teams such as Everton and Nottingham Forest who immediately received punishment when they only made one mistake in the last two seasons, previously Manchester City received a ban from playing in European competitions and also a fine in the form of money, but after an appeal was made CAS said the indictment had passed the deadline set for prosecution, so that it could not be considered anymore and finally Manchester City was released from all existing demands.

Looking at the possibility like the case two years ago, of course it seems that there is a game that is indeed happening behind the scenes, so that until now Manchester City is still quite safe from their punishment, I think that precisely now the Premier League authorities are trying to make Manchester City position safe so that in the end the 115 cases charged will actually expire again and there is no longer a reason to punish Manchester City.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 06, 2024, 04:02:44 PM

By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally Grin

, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.

Several seasons ago, Manchester City received punishment from UEFA with a 2 season ban from playing in the Champions League as well as a fine of several million euros but this was canceled by CAS, and several accusations against City were also addressed to several clubs in the English Premier League, strangely enough, these two clubs immediately received sanctions while City is still safe, so some say City will be safe from all charges and will remain in the English Premier League.
However, if they get punished, I think whatever punishment they face, this team will be able to recover quickly because the money this club has is huge, being relegated to the championship is not a problem for City for one season and then returning to the English Premier League, except for the current owner decided to sell it and we can see that several clubs that have experienced a change of ownership are experiencing difficulties in competing and this could be what City will face.

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Quote from: lalabotax on June 06, 2024, 03:40:57 PM

Chelsea seems to be starting to think about various strategies to manage and strengthen their club again. Yes, we know that Chelsea's purchases last season were not as effective and successful. And this season, it seems like they are even more selective in choosing potential players who really suit them.

This time, what is most rumored is Chelsea's interest in Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko. Yes indeed, if you look at his performance this season, Sesko has made a very good contribution to the team. At this club, he really has quite impressive performance and contributions. He scored 18 goals in 42 matches this season, quite good and classy for Leipzig.

However, it looks like Chelsea has to try harder because not only this club is interested in Sesko but also its rivals from other Premier leagues. Reportedly, Arsenal and Man United are also interested in Sesko. So, there is competition to get it and it will be quite difficult. However, Chelsea did seem very serious and started to approach to get closer.
https://onefootball.com/id/berita/chelsea-pushing-hard-to-sign-this-rb-leipzig-star-good-move-by-the-blues-39589262

I would rather the name Alvarez from Manchester City ( Mind you, I'm no blue fan ) Having a good knowledge of the Premier League Competition and wanting more game time, he will be the perfect name for Chelsea. It'll definitely take some time for him Benjamin Sesko to settle down and successfully do it in the Premier but Alvarez can bring in some quick impact. Chelsea cannot rely on the name Nicolas Jackson for next season alone else they will suffer.

They have good midfielder's already and I change and take back my words, Selling Conor Gallagher would be great and they're making good profits from the player sikce he was gotten from the academy. They should sell him and fund for a proper striker. I don't know why they have no plans in Osimhen no more, could be the fee though and as well avoiding financial fair play rules.

Romelu Lukaku is another good sale to make profits from.

But most importantly, they need to solidify the defense because with th absence of Thiago Silva and wanting to sell Chalobah, most of the names they have are injury prone players, they need to make good significant signings to support the defense.

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Even if Manchester City drop points, they can recover those points later on and they have been particularly good towards the end of the season which has helped them to the top of the points table. Arsenal but if they lose some points in the middle or early part of the season, they cannot recover those points later and this is where they fall behind. It is difficult for us to distinguish how much better Arsenal are performing this season compared to last season.
Last season if they had most of the original XI in their XI then they might have performed better than this season but this season despite being injury free this team has not done well. However, this team is well aware that there is room for improvement and they will prepare accordingly for the upcoming season.

Manchester City is by far the most consistent team in the Premier League, losing points in several matches at the beginning and middle of the season certainly does not make Manchester City lose their chance to be winner and even when towards the end of the season they can be quite consistent and it is difficult to lose points even though they have faced a big team so far, Their ability to rise after getting a defeat is of course the main factor Manchester City can win the title in the last few seasons, while Arsenal who are strong contenders for the title this season are certainly not able to maintain their consistency, although they have been quite impressive since the beginning and middle of the season but they are down when the match is only 7 matches left, It is quite painful indeed what Arsenal fans feel right now, when it is only one step away for Arsenal to break their negative trend in the last 20 years is actually Aston Villa being a team that destroyed their dreams this season.

This is the second season for Arsenal to fail to win the trophy when they are close to the trophy, so I think it is very likely that Arsenal will come back to compete next season to try to break Manchester City dominance, so there will indeed be a lot of improvements that Arteta will probably do at Arsenal next season, reportedly next season Arsenal are throwing away a lot of players and of course they will also try to bring in some good players to strengthen their squad next season.

Arsenal failed to capitalize on the opportunities they had to increase their points in the middle and that's where they fell well behind Manchester City. When Manchester City came back in the second leg of the season, they performed well in their next matches and regularly earned full points. If Manchester City can come back after falling behind Arsenal then why Arsenal could not come back from that situation. At one point in the season we thought that Liverpool might win the English Premier League title because Liverpool had more points than Manchester City and Arsenal at that time but towards the end Liverpool lost points and this is where they were knocked out of the title race. There is no idea how competitive Liverpool will be with Manchester City and Arsenal next season, but we can definitely expect Arsenal to do well next season.

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Quote from: entertheabyss on June 06, 2024, 05:16:34 PM

Quote from: Ajpa94 on June 05, 2024, 10:38:57 PM

Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League.

Every club have their pattern when it comes to performance and Manchester City are consistent having great season. Pep Guardiola is the best coach to ever manage the club.

Dominance, it belong to Manchester City without stressing their best players. Kudos to De Bruyne because he's the top player and have succeeded in hitting all time running on his path. Arsenal and the rest teams can only strives for greatness and trophies outside the English Premier League but anything can happen.

Manchester City has been building a team in the last few seasons and Pep Guardiola was able to make Manchester City what it is today, but that doesn't mean their dominance in the Premier League will be easy because other top Premier League teams are also starting to develop so there will still be fierce competition in the race for the title. as has happened to the Arsenal team in the last 2 seasons, many improvements have occurred since Arteta coached Arsenal so it is possible that Arsenal can break the dominance of Manchester City, who have won the Premier League title 4 times in a row.
But whatever it is, Manchester City can't just go around in the Premier League, this competition will always be competitive with fierce competition in the fight for the title.

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Quote from: iBaba on June 06, 2024, 04:19:45 PM

Quote from: Issa56 on June 06, 2024, 03:51:34 PM

I agree that Manchester City still have higher chances of winning the trophy next season, but it’s too early to conclude that they will be winning yet, the season hasn’t even started for us to see how each club is playing. We should wait for the season to start first, and we have to see how each club is performing before concluding. We saw what happened to Manchester City in the last FA Cup final, everyone expected Manchester City to win the cup because they were in form, and Manchester United's performance wasn’t really good, but we saw how the match ended and things didn’t go well for Manchester City, so anything can happen to Manchester City next season.

I also suggest that it's too early to decide or predict wins the next season of the Premier League especially in a dynamic competition like Premier league anything can happen. Likewise we've have seasons where thriving second class clubs spring up surprises like the Leverkusen did in their own league and Leicester City did in the past Premier league trophy. I'm most optimistic about the performance of Manchester City in the next season likewise that of Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. I have a feeling that Manchester would perform better in the next season that they did this season due to the mistakes and errors that were caused by the manager who is Eric Ten Hag.

It sounds non sense. This is the purpose of discussion thread.

He was also predicting the right thing if Manchester City has a good chance of winning the competition next season and it makes sense. As you can see that Manchester City is still playing very well last season even though they were so struggling but they was able winning EPL again. City remains the frontrunner as a team that will win the competition compared to the its competitors like arsenal or even liverpool at this moment.

That is sufficient evidence to conclude that the outcome of the previous season will be repeated soon again and city is gonna win it for the fifth times in a row. No doubt about it after watching how consistent manchester city is this season. The better if you want to look at the chart above. Allow ten hag to make some modest alterations to the defensive line and this will be really helpful for manchester united to ensure the club is very well prepared at this moment. I'm confident United will return stronger next season after ten hag will be donig some minor changes. This will be really helpful for manchester united soon

Manchester United have at least won the FA Cup and this is better for united. That is sufficient, rather than seeing United receive nothing this season and ten hag deserved to stay for another season.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 06, 2024, 04:02:44 PM

By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally Grin

, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.

You are right, but currently Manchester City is attacking back in the Premier League amidst them receiving 115 charges. Man City filed a lawsuit against the Premier League regarding financial regulations. This season's Premier League champions are demanding the abolition of the Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules. The Premier League implemented this rule in 2021 to prevent clubs from increasing the value of sponsorship deals with companies related to their owners. The Premier League demands that all deals must be in accordance with fair market value.

Man City has prepared legal steps regarding the league's financial regulations. In their lawsuit, they felt they were victims of discrimination in the Related Party Transactions (APT) financial regulations. This demand is considered Man City's way of attacking back into the Premier League. Currently they are being charged with 115 violations of financial regulations, which occurred between 2009-2018. The threat of punishment from these charges varies, ranging from large points deductions, large fines, transfer bans, to being expelled from the Premier League. For example, Everton was punished with two point deductions for two violations.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 06, 2024, 04:02:44 PM

By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally Grin

, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.

If City goes to the championship, I think it would be very unfair to other teams in the championship because City will simply demolish any and all teams that stand between them and the championship title. City won the PL title for 4 years in a row, they should be able to win the championship title which would be super easy. That's a more fitting punishment because a fine will just be like a slap on the wrist and they'll go on and do it again in the near future. It needs to be a more heavy punishment so it would serve as an example for other teams to learn from. No one team is above the league rules.

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Quote from: Ajpa94 on June 05, 2024, 10:38:57 PM

Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League.

Every club have their pattern when it comes to performance and Manchester City are consistent having great season. Pep Guardiola is the best coach to ever manage the club.

Dominance, it belong to Manchester City without stressing their best players. Kudos to De Bruyne because he's the top player and have succeeded in hitting all time running on his path. Arsenal and the rest teams can only strives for greatness and trophies outside the English Premier League but anything can happen.

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Quote from: Issa56 on June 06, 2024, 03:51:34 PM

I agree that Manchester City still have higher chances of winning the trophy next season, but it’s too early to conclude that they will be winning yet, the season hasn’t even started for us to see how each club is playing. We should wait for the season to start first, and we have to see how each club is performing before concluding. We saw what happened to Manchester City in the last FA Cup final, everyone expected Manchester City to win the cup because they were in form, and Manchester United's performance wasn’t really good, but we saw how the match ended and things didn’t go well for Manchester City, so anything can happen to Manchester City next season.

I also suggest that it's too early to decide or predict wins the next season of the Premier League especially in a dynamic competition like Premier league anything can happen. Likewise we've have seasons where thriving second class clubs spring up surprises like the Leverkusen did in their own league and Leicester City did in the past Premier league trophy. I'm most optimistic about the performance of Manchester City in the next season likewise that of Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. I have a feeling that Manchester would perform better in the next season that they did this season due to the mistakes and errors that were caused by the manager who is Eric Ten Hag.

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By the way, I'm pretty curious about what will happen to Manchester City. As a reminder, there are 115 charges against them by the PL. It has been 2 years so the other teams in the PL aren't very positive about the potential result.

A source related to the case: BBC

I also can't be very expectant from this situation though. The result of the case might be seen by the early 2025 the latest. If Manchester City is found guilty, finally Grin

, then they might even find themselves in Championship. Can you imagine them being there with a squad and manager like this? It would be the most shocking news but I don't think this will happen for real. Probably a financial punishment would be seen I think.

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Quote from: Ajpa94 on June 05, 2024, 10:38:57 PM

Manchester City is one of the better teams. Here we go, let Manchester City continue their dominance in the English Premier League.

I agree that Manchester City still have higher chances of winning the trophy next season, but it’s too early to conclude that they will be winning yet, the season hasn’t even started for us to see how each club is playing. We should wait for the season to start first, and we have to see how each club is performing before concluding. We saw what happened to Manchester City in the last FA Cup final, everyone expected Manchester City to win the cup because they were in form, and Manchester United's performance wasn’t really good, but we saw how the match ended and things didn’t go well for Manchester City, so anything can happen to Manchester City next season.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on June 05, 2024, 07:23:10 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on June 05, 2024, 11:17:53 AM

I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.

They are starting to target some players at this moment.

1. Jhon duran (villa)
2. Sesko (Rb leipzig)
3. Olise (Palace)
4. Leeds winger

Chelsea seems to be starting to think about various strategies to manage and strengthen their club again. Yes, we know that Chelsea's purchases last season were not as effective and successful. And this season, it seems like they are even more selective in choosing potential players who really suit them.

This time, what is most rumored is Chelsea's interest in Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko. Yes indeed, if you look at his performance this season, Sesko has made a very good contribution to the team. At this club, he really has quite impressive performance and contributions. He scored 18 goals in 42 matches this season, quite good and classy for Leipzig.

However, it looks like Chelsea has to try harder because not only this club is interested in Sesko but also its rivals from other Premier leagues. Reportedly, Arsenal and Man United are also interested in Sesko. So, there is competition to get it and it will be quite difficult. However, Chelsea did seem very serious and started to approach to get closer.

https://onefootball.com/id/berita/chelsea-pushing-hard-to-sign-this-rb-leipzig-star-good-move-by-the-blues-39589262

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 06, 2024, 03:25:04 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on June 05, 2024, 11:17:53 AM

I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.

It seems like they want to sign a striker these days despite Nkunku's return. However I understand them at the same time. Because Nkunku has been a quite injury-prone player recently. Apart from that Nkunku's main position isn't centre-forward already. He is mainly an attacking midfielder but can play as left winger and striker as well. Jackson makes mistakes but he is still young though. They can just go for an experienced striker or a young striker such as Osimhen who is more credible with finishing skills.

That intriguing thing to know what they can do or how they are going to act, we hear a lot about how they can put the team back together, maybe they want Oshimen, I don't know what those negotiations are like, because it seems that PSG also want him, even though this striker sounds a lot more, well it seems to me that he lacks the explosiveness of a striker like him for Chelsea, as you say, they have already spent a lot of money in the previous two seasons and nothing has given good results, I think that a change of coach would also be good, because the truth is that this team is stopping winning many important competitions.

Maybe they will spend more again this season, but not betting on the price of players but more on the quantity of players they can buy and utilize and then look for the waste that will be in the team strater and the coach will be very difficult because the team they build is too many players and waste money again.

Regarding Nkunku is very doubtful but Chelsea seems to hope that Nkunku can give a very good performance, regarding Osimhen I think PSG has the potential to win it considering the popularity and salary offered will be the main attraction here.

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