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Wolves - Chelsea is the most electrifying match I have watched since the season started. From Chelsea’s performance today, I don’t think Enzo Maresca needs a number 9 anymore. Nicolas Jackson was impressive in the game scoring one goal and gave an assist. No doubt, having Victor Osimhen in the team would be a great addition to the squad but right now I don’t think it is a necessity for Chelsea especially with the money involved in that signing.

The thrill from this game is inexplicable because I never saw that coming, not from Chelsea. If it were to be Manchester city, it would have been a very different scenario but with Chelsea, I never for once taught they were going to put up such brilliance at this point of the league and to make it more intriguing, it has to be against wolves and not a just regular team that could be seen like okay it's a less superior team to them. Chelsea having victor osimhen will add a whole lot to them and will get them producing this kind of results even often than they have just done in this game.

The big win was quite surprising, I also didn't expect Chelsea to score that many goals at Wolves' headquarters, Chelsea's attack this season seems quite deadly, they can do that to Wolves, how about other clubs that are weak clubs, it's a shame they met Manchester City in the opener this season so they lost their first 3 points, I hope this is a good start for Chelsea so they can compete like a top club.

If Victor Oshimen was at Chelsea, it would increase their attack power, but it seems that this player will not be recruited by Chelsea this season because of the large transfer fee and salary because Chelsea also considered that.

2-2 first half, 6-2 second half is the definition of capitulation. I think Wolves didn’t play with any pragmatism at all. They didn’t show Chelsea any respect and were punished severely.

Their defensive play was just poor, The axe is dangling over Gary O'Neil already. The next few games would determine whether he’ll be axed or not.

Chelsea new manager, has done well. In fact I didn’t think their first win of the season was going to come anytime soon considering how bad they played in the preseason and the nature of transfers they’ve been involved in.

They outperformed their XG and I’m happy for the boys. They’ll host their London rival, Crystal Palace at Stamford Bridge this weekend. I’m expecting an exciting game and I tip them to replicate this form.

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Quote from: Weawant on August 26, 2024, 08:37:10 AM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 25, 2024, 03:08:11 PM

Wolves - Chelsea is the most electrifying match I have watched since the season started. From Chelsea’s performance today, I don’t think Enzo Maresca needs a number 9 anymore. Nicolas Jackson was impressive in the game scoring one goal and gave an assist. No doubt, having Victor Osimhen in the team would be a great addition to the squad but right now I don’t think it is a necessity for Chelsea especially with the money involved in that signing.

The thrill from this game is inexplicable because I never saw that coming, not from Chelsea. If it were to be Manchester city, it would have been a very different scenario but with Chelsea, I never for once taught they were going to put up such brilliance at this point of the league and to make it more intriguing, it has to be against wolves and not a just regular team that could be seen like okay it's a less superior team to them. Chelsea having victor osimhen will add a whole lot to them and will get them producing this kind of results even often than they have just done in this game.

The big win was quite surprising, I also didn't expect Chelsea to score that many goals at Wolves' headquarters, Chelsea's attack this season seems quite deadly, they can do that to Wolves, how about other clubs that are weak clubs, it's a shame they met Manchester City in the opener this season so they lost their first 3 points, I hope this is a good start for Chelsea so they can compete like a top club.

If Victor Oshimen was at Chelsea, it would increase their attack power, but it seems that this player will not be recruited by Chelsea this season because of the large transfer fee and salary because Chelsea also considered that.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on August 26, 2024, 03:12:53 PM

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Chelsea needs both a striker and more defenders to further boost its squad to be able to match shoulders with fellow Big teams Manchester city, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester united. If Osimhen finally comes to Chelsea it will definitely further boost the team performance incredibly and enhance Chelsea's frontline players performance, the current Chelsea defense line seem to be the poorest and the worst that Chelsea has ever had.

I don't think Chelsea's defense is as bad as they say, it's just that their performance is very unstable. This team needs a coach who is truly respected by the players, like Tuchel or Jose Mourinho in the past, but now many players feel confused because they often get a different coach every new season.

Chelsea and its management have big ambitions to rise and become the most competitive team in the Premier League again, but unfortunately their efforts so far can almost certainly be said to have failed miserably. A lot of money has been invested in players, but in fact their performance is very far from what is expected. The previous match against Wolves was good, of course because Chelsea seemed possessed by scoring 6 goals for a 2-6 win. But I believe that such performance cannot be sustained.

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I don't think there's anyone doubting the fact that Wolves vs Chelsea game yesterday is easily the most intriguing and entertaining game we've seen in the English Premier League so far. For a team who failed to score against Manchester City in their first game of the season, scoring six goals at Wolves was my least expected result but Chelsea manager and players had another plan. Talking about the no.9 striker position, Nicholas Jackson had a great performance yesterday and was able to find the back of the net as well as providing assist for Cole Palmer to score that stunner of a goal but I'm still don't have don't much confidence on the Senegalese striker. If Chelsea can, I think they should still sign Victor Osimhen this summer

The match yesterday was really intriguing and it shows that there's hope for the Chelsea attack though I still won't place hope on Jackson after one game, he needs to be consistent to show he can really be the main striker at Chelsea.

Though getting Osimhen will be good and make out attack fearsome but I think this shouldn't be our top priority anymore rather getting a more experienced CB as Thiago Silva replacement, we saw all through pre season how the defense where so much disappointing and this is the second game of the season, it's still disappointing to me.
We need good defenders and Enzo won't go for any new one he should try to give Chalobah a chance at least once.

Chelsea needs both a striker and more defenders to further boost its squad to be able to match shoulders with fellow Big teams Manchester city, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester united. If Osimhen finally comes to Chelsea it will definitely further boost the team performance incredibly and enhance Chelsea's frontline players performance, the current Chelsea defense line seem to be the poorest and the worst that Chelsea has ever had.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 25, 2024, 03:08:11 PM

Wolves - Chelsea is the most electrifying match I have watched since the season started. From Chelsea’s performance today, I don’t think Enzo Maresca needs a number 9 anymore. Nicolas Jackson was impressive in the game scoring one goal and gave an assist. No doubt, having Victor Osimhen in the team would be a great addition to the squad but right now I don’t think it is a necessity for Chelsea especially with the money involved in that signing.

Chelsea played very well in this game and it seems that their confidence and mentality are a little intertwined after the first match did not have a good result because they lost to City.
Although there are still some things to be improved especially with the defense communication that is sometimes still lacking but with 6 goals created in this match certainly makes the hope of Cheslea a little different now.
Madueke's hat trick and Palmer with 1 goal and 3 assists created are really very good and this is what I am waiting for from Chelsea's game that has been missing for a long time.

This momentum must be well maintained by Maresca because after all with a big win it will certainly make their confidence increase which can be a good start for Chelsea.

I'm behind on information it seems because honestly I only found out that Joao returned to Chelsea this season after seeing him play in this match Cheesy

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Wolves - Chelsea is the most electrifying match I have watched since the season started. From Chelsea’s performance today, I don’t think Enzo Maresca needs a number 9 anymore. Nicolas Jackson was impressive in the game scoring one goal and gave an assist. No doubt, having Victor Osimhen in the team would be a great addition to the squad but right now I don’t think it is a necessity for Chelsea especially with the money involved in that signing.

I don't think there's anyone doubting the fact that Wolves vs Chelsea game yesterday is easily the most intriguing and entertaining game we've seen in the English Premier League so far. For a team who failed to score against Manchester City in their first game of the season, scoring six goals at Wolves was my least expected result but Chelsea manager and players had another plan. Talking about the no.9 striker position, Nicholas Jackson had a great performance yesterday and was able to find the back of the net as well as providing assist for Cole Palmer to score that stunner of a goal but I'm still don't have don't much confidence on the Senegalese striker. If Chelsea can, I think they should still sign Victor Osimhen this summer

The contract Osimhen wants is very expensive. That's why I heard they haven't reached an agreement with the player yet. Of course, I don't know if this is true or not exactly, but the transfer window is almost over and there is still no development in this regard. If they sign a contract with the Nigerian player, I think they will be much more effective in terms of attack. Jackson is very good in this match but he is still questionable in the other matches. I don't think it's right to risk a season by not making a transfer after a player played a very good match. Staying in Napoli may be the best decision for Osimhen, but if Chelsea wants him, they should show that and transfer him before it's too late.

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This is the first biggest win this season in the Premier League. Chelsea played very well, they were very effective in building attacks and they deserved this victory. Wolves also did not play badly in the first half,

Chelsea was on fire yesterday match by giving wolves what they did not imagine, I still cannot believe that Chelsea will be able to pull the performance they did yesterday considering the fact that wolves gave arsenal some strong resistant before they finally lose 2:0 to arsenal, there performance was indeed a shocking one to so many people because after Chelsea lose to Manchester City so many people concluded that Chelsea is not in a good shape, so I believe that with there performance yesterday they will realize that Chelsea still have some of there strength in them, however is very unfortunate for wolves because they have started this premier league season very bad because from the two matches they have played they have nothing to write home about plus the numerous goals they have also conceived.

Yes something like that happened but I thought that Al Nasr would change the match and win the match by scoring more goals. But my guess was wrong because the performance of the opposing team also looks like this, otherwise Al Nasr would have won this match. And this is the reason why I was betting with Al Nasr that Ronaldo will score and win the match for his team. But other players also tried their best but they failed. They need more effort within themselves to dodge the opposition players and score more goals because in these cases they need goals because the match is at risk of a draw. And because of this laziness, they were seen to draw this match.Ronaldo has tried to score many times, but the opposing players kept their eyes on him and stopped Ronaldo's goal and the match remained equal.

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Quote from: hahay on August 24, 2024, 02:48:53 PM

But yes, because I am also still quite sure that Arsenal is still able to compete strongly in the fight for the trophy. Thus, I personally still choose Arsenal to win and getting results like this certainly makes me happy too. Because Arteta also managed to make Arsenal have good performance and trends at the beginning of this season. Of course, results like this will be a good start for Arsenal to be in the fight for the Premier League trophy this season.

A good win there, congrats. Wink

I was really hesitant about trusting Arsenal honestly so I didn't bet on them. But it is good to see them showing their quality in every situation. Even in a game they had struggles...

Next week, I see a Manchester United - Liverpool game. I'm looking forward to watching it. Cool

Erik ten Hag's team are still trying to pull themselves together. The Brighton loss must have demoralized them more. Unlike them, Liverpool have started well. Arne Slot is doing just fine. Salah is in a good shape. If I bet on this game most probably my choice will be over 2.5 goals and both teams to score @1.64.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 26, 2024, 03:34:55 AM

I don't think there's anyone doubting the fact that Wolves vs Chelsea game yesterday is easily the most intriguing and entertaining game we've seen in the English Premier League so far. For a team who failed to score against Manchester City in their first game of the season, scoring six goals at Wolves was my least expected result but Chelsea manager and players had another plan. Talking about the no.9 striker position, Nicholas Jackson had a great performance yesterday and was able to find the back of the net as well as providing assist for Cole Palmer to score that stunner of a goal but I'm still don't have don't much confidence on the Senegalese striker. If Chelsea can, I think they should still sign Victor Osimhen this summer

The match yesterday was really intriguing and it shows that there's hope for the Chelsea attack though I still won't place hope on Jackson after one game, he needs to be consistent to show he can really be the main striker at Chelsea.

Though getting Osimhen will be good and make out attack fearsome but I think this shouldn't be our top priority anymore rather getting a more experienced CB as Thiago Silva replacement, we saw all through pre season how the defense where so much disappointing and this is the second game of the season, it's still disappointing to me.
We need good defenders and Enzo won't go for any new one he should try to give Chalobah a chance at least once.

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Manchester City is in a very strong position this season as in previous seasons. And it would not be wrong to say that Manchester City is the strongest team in the Premier League. And it probably did for Guardiola. Guardiola has built a strong squad. And he doesn't make too many changes within this squad. So the bonding between the players is very strong. And this is why the Manchester City team is able to consistently perform well.

But I think it won't be easy for Manchester City to dominate the Premier League this season. There is no doubt that City are strong. But Arsenal and Liverpool teams are also strong enough. Last season we saw Arsenal team fight hard to win the title. And City were a bit lucky to win the Premier League title. However, there is no doubt that the Premier League will be very competitive this season as well. At the same time, the road to the title won't be easy for City.

Since Pep Guardiola arrived in the Premier League, Manchester City has turned the tournament into its playground thanks to the clever combination of the powerful financial resources of its owners, along with Pep's impressive ability to command and improvise tactics. Manchester City have seen off the challenge of Arsenal in the last two seasons and go into this campaign aiming to win a fifth successive Premier League title. Considering the current general situation, this is a very high possibility that will happen. Of course, other big teams will not let Man City easily become the Premier League champions again, but in terms of potential, coach Pep Guardiola's team is still the number 1 candidate. Arsenal and Liverpool are likely to form a three-horse race for the new Premier League title.

With a long and fierce tournament like the Premier League, personnel depth is one of the key factors that helps a club win the championship. Man City's schedule this season is even tougher as they have to participate in the new format Club World Cup. This means key players will be playing more often, leading to a higher risk of injury. It's one reason why Arsenal and Liverpool have a better chance of competing. Arsenal can overthrow Man City after 2 consecutive seasons of winning the runner-up position. Only if the Gunners mature further, otherwise the championship will still be an obsession for them.

Guardiola has gradually changed the overall condition of Manchester City since becoming the coach of Manchester City. City management provided major funds for player purchases. And Guardiola has complete freedom to build the squad to his liking. Guardiola has succeeded. And right now the strongest team in the Premier League is Manchester City. Guardiola's Manchester City side have dominated the Premier League in each of the last four seasons. City's performances have been very consistent throughout the season.

Manchester City is undoubtedly the strongest team in the Premier League this season. And City are the most likely to win the title. However, Arsenal and Liverpool are worthy rivals of Manchester City this time. Arsenal and Liverpool have strong squads. If key players in the squad don't face any major injuries then I think both the teams will be able to perform consistently well.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 26, 2024, 03:34:55 AM

I don't think there's anyone doubting the fact that Wolves vs Chelsea game yesterday is easily the most intriguing and entertaining game we've seen in the English Premier League so far. For a team who failed to score against Manchester City in their first game of the season, scoring six goals at Wolves was my least expected result but Chelsea manager and players had another plan. Talking about the no.9 striker position, Nicholas Jackson had a great performance yesterday and was able to find the back of the net as well as providing assist for Cole Palmer to score that stunner of a goal but I'm still don't have don't much confidence on the Senegalese striker. If Chelsea can, I think they should still sign Victor Osimhen this summer

people have underestimated Chelsea and i also did the same thing because Chelsea have been staggering for some time now and they need to do more to be able to get me convinced that they have improved, just because they won against wolves does not mean they have achieved anything yet, lets wait till the middle of the season then we going to be able to survive the heat that is going to be coming upon everyone, and that heat will be coming from Manchester city, the one and only best club. actually six goals is a lot of goals and its been a while that Chelsea have been able to give such goal and entertainment to their fans. during the first game if Chelsea have won against us that is the day I will stop supporting Manchester city because I can nit just imagine. and it is now looking as if Chelsea hope for their new coach have improved the performance of the club, i would not want Osimhen to go to Chelsea their are other better club that, if he should go their his performance is going to reduce drastically.

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Well, Chelsea definitely had the game that I thought United would have. I expected United to do well, and they lost which is a shock to me because they really looked like they were trying their very best on the summer and got some good players as well, between injuries and such they became not so great again, which is their unlucky situation because they had the same injury problems last season.

This year, Chelsea started to look better, a 6-2 win is no joke and doesn't happen if you are not a great team, I think it's clear that Chelsea is on the right path and I think they are going to do very well. I believe that the best thing to do right now would be something that we can actually argue about and probably get a good result in the end. We just need to make sure that Chelsea doesn't get the same injuries because those really hurt teams but at this point with 500 players or something, they must have some very deep squad that they can pull players from and they shouldn't have an issue.

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Palmer continues from where he left last season. Wink

A goal and three assists in his second game of the season already. I would like to remind you that he completed the previous season with 22 goals, 11 assists in the Premier League. He is one of very valuable talents in the world that's clear. Chelsea is trying to keep him at the team by extending his contract more but let's see how long the relationship goes.

I can't help but noticing Madueke's hat-trick as well. This effort will surely keep him in the starting lineup. Considering his goal contribution previously, this season he could do much more as it seems.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 26, 2024, 10:41:32 AM

Chelsea managed to get a different win yesterday after the defeat against Manchester City in the first week. Chelsea, who managed to score 6 goals against Wolverhampton, won a match in which they scored so many goals after a long time. Madueke scored 3 goals and Palmer finished with 1 goal and 3 assists in the match and they won with a total score of 6-2 and got their first win in the league.

Chelsea did not manage to win because they dominated the game and gave a performance that we have not seen for a very long time.i think you may be the only person that have this opinion of Chelsea managing to win that managing to win because majority of the people I know have n9ce things to say about Chelsea's performance that day.

Obviously you know that the goal margin was huge and that shows the coach learnt from their last match and made some adjustments.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 26, 2024, 10:41:32 AM

Chelsea managed to get a different win yesterday after the defeat against Manchester City in the first week. Chelsea, who managed to score 6 goals against Wolverhampton, won a match in which they scored so many goals after a long time. Madueke scored 3 goals and Palmer finished with 1 goal and 3 assists in the match and they won with a total score of 6-2 and got their first win in the league.

Yeah, we have great attackers, but terrible defenders at the same time. It has been years since the last time i was watching Chelsea become this productive. It seems they have found their ideal starting lineup. It is Pedro, Palmer, Jackson, and Medueke. They are gonna have better results as long as they perform with that line-ups.

Yet, it's too early to celebrate it considering we have not yet proven it against the big clubs. We at very least have improved far compared to when we lost against City. Maresca needs to think of an alternative plan to fix the loophole in our defence. However, our defence is not that terrible in that game compared to last season.

Still, conceding two goals is a lot against a middle tier team like Wolves.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 26, 2024, 11:02:22 AM

Liverpool continue to win. Liverpool won the match against Brentford with a dominant game and continue to win without Klopp. I think Arne Slot has adapted quickly.
Newcastle United, on the other hand, managed to draw away from behind. Despite playing better than their opponents, they couldn't win the match. With this draw, the hosts have 2 draws in 2 games while Newcastle have 4 points.

Liverpool so far has shown a very positive performance in their last two matches, the strategy and style of play applied by Arne slot in my opinion is quite capable at the moment, even for a team that has not brought in new players this season, Liverpool looks very strong and superior in every line of their game , in my opinion Liverpool game now has improved drastically if we compare it towards the end of last season but even so it seems too early for us to think if they will be consistent until the end of the season considering they have not faced equal opponents.

Newcastle managed to maximize their first match with get 3 points although great difficulty after one of their players received a red card, but fortunately Newcastle were able to end the match with a 1-0 win over Southampton, while in their second match Newcastle, I think their were very lucky to get a draw result 1-1 over Bournemouth after Bournemouth goal in the last minute of the match was disallowed by the referee and prevented Newcastle from losing in the match, from these two matches it is clear that currently it will be difficult for us to measure the strength that Newcastle have, although I am inclined to see that perhaps at the end of the season they will again fail to be in big four zone.

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Liverpool continue to win. Liverpool won the match against Brentford with a dominant game and continue to win without Klopp. I think Arne Slot has adapted quickly.
Newcastle United, on the other hand, managed to draw away from behind. Despite playing better than their opponents, they couldn't win the match. With this draw, the hosts have 2 draws in 2 games while Newcastle have 4 points.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 25, 2024, 03:08:11 PM

Wolves - Chelsea is the most electrifying match I have watched since the season started. From Chelsea’s performance today, I don’t think Enzo Maresca needs a number 9 anymore. Nicolas Jackson was impressive in the game scoring one goal and gave an assist. No doubt, having Victor Osimhen in the team would be a great addition to the squad but right now I don’t think it is a necessity for Chelsea especially with the money involved in that signing.

The match between Chelsea and Wolverhampton started in a way that seems that it is a tough match. But as the match proceeded, Chelsea showed alot of uniqueness and superiority over Wolves. This was evidence by the number of goals scored by Chelsea. The Nigerian international, Madueke showed alot of energy and zeal, even from pre-season days till now. He surely wants to ensure that the right wing belongs to him. Apart from Haaland, he is the only one who has scored hatrick in EPL this season.

However, it is too early to conclude that Chelsea should depend on the available strikers they have throughout this season. We all know that wolves is not a very good side in the English Premier League. Can we wait until Chelsea play a team like Arsenal. We shouldn't forget how their first meeting with Manchester city went. So, if Chelsea has their way, they should get Victor Osimhen.

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Chelsea managed to get a different win yesterday after the defeat against Manchester City in the first week. Chelsea, who managed to score 6 goals against Wolverhampton, won a match in which they scored so many goals after a long time. Madueke scored 3 goals and Palmer finished with 1 goal and 3 assists in the match and they won with a total score of 6-2 and got their first win in the league.

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Pep Guardiola says that the motivation for winning another Premier League title is not there yet...

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1ev5hfb/pep_guardiola_the_motivation_to_win_another/

Maybe he has got bored after winning the league title every season. Tongue

Jokes aside, he says this but I don't doubt Manchester City even a bit. They would be in the title race for sure as usual. There is a system running like clockwork and it is really not easy to break it. I see only Arsenal which have a chance to perform this task. So far they have tried twice and failed. But there was progress last season. I'm curious about this season a lot.

I'm sorry, but it's simply you're missing the key point at the end of video. Pep's clearly said that his motivation to win PL trophy will be there in the last month of competition. I'd prefer to see his statement as sarcastic, not as a lack of interest in winning the Premier League.

Look at how City was always backstabbed arsenal in the last month of competition, then they won the trophy.

I am with you on this and this is what happens if people take out only the excerpts of the statement of a person, the whole lump with the true meaning might have been edited out. No club manager in the world would be demarketing himself in such a manner if not for a different meaning/reason. He doesn't want to win the league and he is building a squad as beautiful as the current one?

That must either be a sarcastic statement or entirely believing that at a point the full motivation will come. At times too, some coaches talk down like that so that you undermine them but will disappoint you on the battlefield.

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