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Their situation in the last two seasons shows that in most cases they would be title winners with those averages, but they failed because of how things turned out. I believe that they are going to end up with something that will take a while to see in the end.
Their players have given their best but indeed the winning mentality and performance of Manchester City which is much better makes them have to bury their hopes of becoming champions again, because after all it is a little difficult if they compete with Manchester City, which is currently on fire in the hands of Pep considering that every season their development is getting more mature so that it does not mean Arsenal failed and did nothing because they have tried their best, it's just that Manchester City whose level is still above them.

Next season also my expectations are actually still the same where Arteta continues to maintain their focus in order to remain a club that can compete for trophies, but for the problem of champions they have to try even better because at this time they have to press and convince themselves that they are better than Manchester City, as long as that cannot be done then the conditions will not be much different from this season.
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Arsenal fans should just stop thinking that Arsenal will be at another level next season, I don’t see arsenal winning the league title next season, first of all, I want to ask, did Manchester City lose any of their players? Or did Manchester City sell out some players? I don’t see Manchester City selling out any of their key players and if Manchester City players are complete and no one was injured before the beginning of the season Manchester City will still win the premier league title, Manchester City squad is complete and no position that The team lacks and that is the first thing we should be thinking of before assuming that arsenal will win the title next season.

Arsenal has a good squad also but the squad doesn’t know how to get a well work done when it comes to winning the league, Arsenal has been making the same mistakes for more than 2 years now by allowing a small team to defeat them and give Manchester City a chance of winning the league, I don’t expect arsenal to win premier league title next season, they can win another trophy but you see the champion league and premier league title arsenal cannot win it with that squad they have currently.

It is unfair to guarantee Manchester City the Premier League even before the season kicks off. This is purely your imagination and nothing else because I can't call this prediction. If I were to say the season has started, I would have said it is a prediction, but the season has not started. Moreover, in the season that just finished, many people were thinking Arsenal would get the title even though later they failed to make it, but they were at the top of the table till the last day of the final. Remember that nothing is impossible in football.

A team that you underestimate may take the trophy you did not expect, so I don't know how much you underestimate Arsenal's reach that makes you think they won't win the trophy next season. Just know that Manchester City can also fail to another team.
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I disagree with you, Haaland is the key player who helped Manchester City to win the Championship for both seasons, Haaland contributed to the club last season that helped Manchester City to win their treble, I think we could have seen Arsenal win the Premier League title since last season if weren't for the contribution Haaland made to Manchester City. However, Haaland has won the Premier League top scorer for his two seasons at the club, we believe that he couldn't have won it without the support of his teammates.

It's very bad to think that Haaland was responsible for Manchester City losing the FA Cup final against Manchester City, Haaland is the striker and he was meant to score goals, if you complain about Haaland, what are you going to say about Nunez? Who missed numerous chances for Liverpool to win their games. Haaland is the best striker in the Premier League at this point, last season Manchester City won a treble, they eliminated Real Madrid in the Champions League and nobody praised him for his hard work, and this season they failed to beat Manchester United in the FA Cup and got eliminated by Real Madrid, I don't have to hold anyone responsible for it because football is unpredictable.

If Haaland decides to leave Manchester City, I don't think they will be able to top the Premier League table, he has contributed to the club since last season, and I believe that Guardiola appreciates his hard work.
Of course Haaland is a key player in the Man City squad as you can see what he was able to achieve with the squad especially in his first season which was when they won the treble, like their first UCL. The fact that he’s been able to remain the league’s highest goal scorer after 2 seasons is one key indication of how important he is to the Man City team. I don’t understand why they majorly criticize players because they’re not able to help their team get success, like do you want him to kill himself.

 He does quite some work whilst at the opponent’s half and yes you can also credit the midfielders whi brings the pass for him. The FA Cup loss can’t be placed solely on him because it’s absurd as you can see the goals conceded were from defensive blunders and nothing more. ⁠The big name players on some days will sure be having bad days and you can see that with Nunez of Liverpool who’s heavily criticized.

 It’s not okay to compare Haaland to Nunez because Haaland is way above him in terms of performance and you can see that with the way they play in their various teams. Haaland does pretty much for Man City and I think his departure from the club will leave a very big gap there and for that reason you will see how much Pep appreciates him in the club and don’t want to lose him.

Haaland still has a lot to learn. He is definitely a great player and he also contributes to his team a lot. But his movement off the ball when the ball is in the midfield area or even in the half of Manchester City has to get better. And probably I will also criticize about his ball control if I have to really nitpick. other than that I do not see much of a problem with how he plays. Yes of course he has some bad games sometimes. But who doesn’t? It is only natural that he is not going to play all the matches well.

A lot of people think that Haaland has lost them some important matches because he missed some easy chances in some crucial matches. Yes, I agree with that. But they often forget that he has also been able to win Manchester City a lot of matches as well. And even though he does not score, he is a threat that the opponent has to care about and that’s why the coach also has the ability to make him debate and make other players go forward and score

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So, what Arsenal experienced must be able to be overcome by Arteta so that it is easy to lose points in a match that could have been won. This season, Arsenal almost broke Manchester City dominance, but due to mistakes made in several matches, they were unable to surpass the points accumulated by Manchester City.
Arsenal biggest mistake was losing points to Aston Villa in two meetings. If Arteta were able to win one of these matches, Arsenal would have succeeded in lifting the EPL trophy. Arsenal's habit of often being inconsistent towards the end of the season must be addressed immediately. Arteta needs to maintain Arsenal performance so that they can appear consistent to win the title which has been postponed for the last two seasons.
They will probably not make the same mistakes over and over again, plus they had just a few games they had a problem, and I am sure that next season they will do better. Problem with City domination is that City plays so well that they always get super high points, it's of course normal that they win the title, Arsenal is getting points that could have been a title winner in most other cases, whereas we are looking at it now and seeing that they are finishing second.

Their situation in the last two seasons shows that in most cases they would be title winners with those averages, but they failed because of how things turned out. I believe that they are going to end up with something that will take a while to see in the end.
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You don't see. But it doesn't mean it isn't going to happen 100% buddy.  Smiley  Because of that there is no reason for Arsenal fans to just stop dreaming about a Premier League trophy.

Arsenal have all the potential, we have already witnessed that. They were way better than the 2022/23 season first of all. They scored more goals and conceded much less amount than that. Just because of losing that Aston Villa match on the final moments caused the trophy to slip through their fingers.  Sad  But Arteta has shown already that winning a trophy isn't impossible for Arsenal. He is great at managing this many young players.

They're the best side to win it next season, they'll be ready, anticipating for the return of the Premier League Competition. People who talk without proper analysis and checks you don't have to waste your energy educating, because they'll never learn. I sit down and wonder how people watch football this way.

I won't be shocked to hear that he never played football.

They have most importantly, a gallant defense and they'll be the same come next season. They've up them game. If you open your mouth to say Manchester City, then look at the names wanting to leave Manchester City. They will never come close to winning the Premier League Competition next season.
Kevin De Bruyne, Bernado Silva and the goalkeeper Ederson are most likely to leave the club at the start of the transfer window upcoming.
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It doesn't have to be like that when looking at next season's competition by comparing Manchester City. It is still possible that Manchester City will fail to defend the Premier League title next season. It is still possible that Arsenal will win the Premier League title competition next season.

Until now, none of the main players in the Manchester City squad have been sold, which makes them still complete, but things can still change even though they haven't changed at all in terms of player composition next season.
The Premier League competition is different from other leagues.
Everything is still possible, no one dares to name a club that will win the EPL next season. Manchester City is still the strongest candidate based on their ability in the last four years to be the best among other teams, but next season there may be surprises like what happened in the Bundesliga. Guardiola will still be Manchester City coach next season, he also wants his squad to be decorated with new faces to increase the strength of his team. Arsenal which has failed to compete with its rivals in the last two years, will try to correct all its mistakes in order to end Manchester City dominance.

Other clubs could also give surprises, Chelsea is improving, Liverpool will also start a new era after changing the regime in the coach chair. Manchester United and Newcastle will try to increase their strength to provide competition for the title. Next season there will be so many surprises that Manchester City and Arsenal will have to be more careful because they could finish lower than they have achieved in the last two seasons.
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Arsenal made the same mistake twice, hopefully they won't make the same mistake a third time and the third time they will definitely be able to take the result in their favour.

Repeated mistakes, even when they have a chance to stay away they also fail. If you remember when Man City also lost points from several matches, Arsenal was unable to maximize the match with a victory. Arsenal also lost points, the bad luck of Man City they were able to improve and continue to win in the rest of the competition. This makes Man City better. For today I read that there are 22 non-regular Arsenal players who will leave, it seems that the majority of these players are not senior players.

Source: https://www.arsenal.com/news/22-players-depart-arsenal-end-contacts

I still disagree even when people talk down at Arsenal, it’s obvious last season happened to be another great season for the gunners and the only aim was to win the title but it never happened as planned. Comparing both teams I don’t think it’s best to say Manchester City is better than Arsenal because we all saw how Arsenal planned last season. Arsenal performance last season looks more better compared to other season. The only problem I believe Arsenal is facing right now is lack of a striker as Arteta should make move singing a new player and we’ll see Jurrien Timber play consistence next season. Concerning the recent news I don’t think it will affect the team negatively but, I also read a news headline about Manchester City midfielder Kevin considering leaving the team and we all know Kevin is an amazing player also, so looking at the changes although Kevin has not made any move yet but considering all this I think Arsenal can still shine next season.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/04/kevin-de-bruyne-may-consider-leaving-manchester-city-for-saudi-arabian-club

Are you joking about that? How can't city better than arsenal? Even i value MU or liverpool who finished below arsenal performed better than arsenal.

MU - FA trophy
Liverpool - Carabao Trophy
City - EPL trophy

The hell is achieving by. arsenal last season? How can i call a club that had won trophy is worsening or equal compared to the trophyless club?

Use your logic. It doesn't matter how competitive they are, trophyless is a trophyless.

This can't be argued if city better than arsenal last season. It's caused the reality arsenal is the only trophyless club from top 3 this season.
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City with their current squad is very good and they are one of the favorites to win next season. But I think City must regenerate to maintain their best performance. City cannot always rely on Kevin de Bruyne as City's opportunity creator and playmaker. KDB will be 33 years old next season. If we don't regenerate the squad, I think City will find it difficult to compete next season.

It is a shame that Arsenal failed to become champions this season after they also failed in the previous season. Arsenal played very well this season but unfortunately they lost several important points such as the match against Aston Villa.

We have the best squad anyone can think of and their is no other club that can compete with us with the premier league title we have won it countless times, I don’t see any other club that can win it aside us so next season is still ours. I think I have to place a bet early this time around because am always confident to what our club can do I think they should change the name of Manchester City to the destroyer, that is what we know how to do best destroy and win. And one good about pep is that we are going to come back stronger next season and we won’t play the same pattern with the one we played last season. They should expect a better and stronger return from the city.

When it comes to Manchester City I have less worried about they are always going to find a way and having pep as our coach gives me rest of mind than.  Arsenal is having difficulty to maintain balance and consistency and for the past two seasons now in the premier league they can not win they are always maintaining the second position. They are always losing points that is one their challenge and if they can maintain points then they will continue the same way. In fact the game they played against Aston villa that is were the problem started from their is next season for they to try again.
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I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.

It seems like they want to sign a striker these days despite Nkunku's return. However I understand them at the same time. Because Nkunku has been a quite injury-prone player recently. Apart from that Nkunku's main position isn't centre-forward already. He is mainly an attacking midfielder but can play as left winger and striker as well. Jackson makes mistakes but he is still young though. They can just go for an experienced striker or a young striker such as Osimhen who is more credible with finishing skills.  Smiley
This season Chelsea are starting to look to rely on talented young players, Pochettino's arrival to Chelsea has certainly managed to change and create a new foundation by relying on young players, although now Pochettino has been sacked but I think Enzo will continue everything that Pochettino has done next season, in the last few seasons Chelsea have spent a lot of money and of course they will again budget a lot of money to regenerate In order to be able to compete again in the fight for the Premier League title next season, so far Enzo Maresca is a coach who has indeed had very big ambitions in bringing the team he has coached to win so far.

Chelsea current owners reportedly give the freedom for Enzo Maresca to buy players according to their needs provided that they are no more than 27 years old, the need for an attacking line in my opinion is not too urgent because they have a palmer who has been quite impressive so far, I think defense should be the main focus for Chelsea at the moment, especially since their defensive line has now had a big hole after Thiago Silva officially left Chelsea this season.   
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I'm curious about Chelsea's moves in the summer transfer window from now on. They have spent a billion euros in last two years but still couldn't get what they wanted. I hope to see them being more careful in this window.

It seems like they want to sign a striker these days despite Nkunku's return. However I understand them at the same time. Because Nkunku has been a quite injury-prone player recently. Apart from that Nkunku's main position isn't centre-forward already. He is mainly an attacking midfielder but can play as left winger and striker as well. Jackson makes mistakes but he is still young though. They can just go for an experienced striker or a young striker such as Osimhen who is more credible with finishing skills.  Smiley
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Until now, none of the main players in the Manchester City squad have been sold, which makes them still complete, but things can still change even though they haven't changed at all in terms of player composition next season.
The Premier League competition is different from other leagues.
City with their current squad is very good and they are one of the favorites to win next season. But I think City must regenerate to maintain their best performance. City cannot always rely on Kevin de Bruyne as City's opportunity creator and playmaker. KDB will be 33 years old next season. If we don't regenerate the squad, I think City will find it difficult to compete next season.

It is a shame that Arsenal failed to become champions this season after they also failed in the previous season. Arsenal played very well this season but unfortunately they lost several important points such as the match against Aston Villa.

I personally do not think Manchester City has a good squad even though indeed, Manchester city still has Haaland, Foden and also other great players. But I am sure, if Pep Guardiola leaves Manchester City, I am sure that Manchester City will find it difficult to become a strong team in the title race. So yes,  as long as Pep Guardiola is still at Manchester City then of course, Manchester City will still have a chance to get the trophy. But even so, I still hope the Premier League next season will have a new team to get the trophy, whether Arsenal, Aston Villa or maybe Newcastle, because it will certainly be more interesting.
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Until now, none of the main players in the Manchester City squad have been sold, which makes them still complete, but things can still change even though they haven't changed at all in terms of player composition next season.
The Premier League competition is different from other leagues.
City with their current squad is very good and they are one of the favorites to win next season. But I think City must regenerate to maintain their best performance. City cannot always rely on Kevin de Bruyne as City's opportunity creator and playmaker. KDB will be 33 years old next season. If we don't regenerate the squad, I think City will find it difficult to compete next season.

It is a shame that Arsenal failed to become champions this season after they also failed in the previous season. Arsenal played very well this season but unfortunately they lost several important points such as the match against Aston Villa.
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What you say is correct, predicting is fine because it is each of us's rights, but don't forget that in football anything can happen, especially the standings between Arsenal and Manchester City are not far, they are next to each other and are close together, this could be Arsenal. have better performance next season and can even lead to the league title next season. Apart from that, even though it is true that Manchester City has not lost a single player, this does not mean that they will remain consistent because there could be a decline in their performance because with the news circulating about Pep Guardiola who will leave Manchester City, of course this will trigger changes, and these changes of course cannot be guaranteed. it would be better though all Manchester City fans hope for the best for next season.

I think Manchester City might experience changes when they lose Pep Guardiola next season, because this will be additional work for Manchester City to find a new coach and of course it will take time to adapt to the new coach, it is unlikely that they will immediately experience their best performance. If they can adapt to their new coach quickly, maybe they can show good performance next season.
As long as Manchester City still has quality players and an experienced coach, Arsenal will only be below Manchester City and this has been proven since the arrival of Pep Guardiola, Arsenal has always failed to compete with Manchester City and to this day Arsenal is still right below Manchester City.
If someone bets on next season to bet on Arsenal getting the PL title, it doesn't matter that's their choice but just see what will happen because there are no rumors of Pep Guardiola or Haaland leaving Manchester city and if anyone predicts Haaland or the coach leaving from the club, it seems that the prediction was wrong because a club that always achieves success usually retains its best coach and players.

When later Pep Guardiola leaves Manchester City but the Manchester players are still intact without anyone leaving the club, Manchester City's performance will certainly still be the same because this club is part of the biggest club which will not be possible to bring in an inexperienced coach and certainly a coach who will replace him. Pep Guardiola definitely has good experience.
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Arsenal made the same mistake twice, hopefully they won't make the same mistake a third time and the third time they will definitely be able to take the result in their favour.
Mistake that happened a second time is not a mistake, they are just not able to win and if only means they are not capable of beating Manchester City.

They can try again next season but it will still be difficult if they don’t improve their squad. Firstly i think they need a better striker, they should stop deceiving themselves that Havertz will solve their goal scoring issues. Havertz is not a natural striker so need to get a natural striker that can win matches for them singlehandedly. With Haaland Manchester City don’t seem to have a striker problem anymore and his goals go a long way for the team.

Repeated mistakes, even when they have a chance to stay away they also fail. If you remember when Man City also lost points from several matches, Arsenal was unable to maximize the match with a victory.
Arsenal need to able to win matches that matters of they ever want to win the title, they could have won the league had it been they won the game against Aston Villa, a very crucial match after Manchester City had dropped points and winning could have changed the whole story but they went on to lose at home to Aston Villa that was when i knew they wouldn’t win the title.
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Arsenal fans should just stop thinking that Arsenal will be at another level next season, I don’t see arsenal winning the league title next season, first of all, I want to ask, did Manchester City lose any of their players? Or did Manchester City sell out some players? I don’t see Manchester City selling out any of their key players and if Manchester City players are complete and no one was injured before the beginning of the season Manchester City will still win the premier league title, Manchester City squad is complete and no position that The team lacks and that is the first thing we should be thinking of before assuming that arsenal will win the title next season.
It doesn't have to be like that when looking at next season's competition by comparing Manchester City. It is still possible that Manchester City will fail to defend the Premier League title next season. It is still possible that Arsenal will win the Premier League title competition next season.

Until now, none of the main players in the Manchester City squad have been sold, which makes them still complete, but things can still change even though they haven't changed at all in terms of player composition next season.
The Premier League competition is different from other leagues.

What you say is correct, predicting is fine because it is each of us's rights, but don't forget that in football anything can happen, especially the standings between Arsenal and Manchester City are not far, they are next to each other and are close together, this could be Arsenal. have better performance next season and can even lead to the league title next season. Apart from that, even though it is true that Manchester City has not lost a single player, this does not mean that they will remain consistent because there could be a decline in their performance because with the news circulating about Pep Guardiola who will leave Manchester City, of course this will trigger changes, and these changes of course cannot be guaranteed. it would be better though all Manchester City fans hope for the best for next season.

I think Manchester City might experience changes when they lose Pep Guardiola next season, because this will be additional work for Manchester City to find a new coach and of course it will take time to adapt to the new coach, it is unlikely that they will immediately experience their best performance. If they can adapt to their new coach quickly, maybe they can show good performance next season.
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Manchester City managed to extend their championship status in a row this season, with Arsenal defeat to Aston Villa at that time of course making Manchester City so free to win the championship this season, Manchester City managed to overtake Arsenal and Liverpool when the season began to enter the final stage and we can say that Arsenal defeat to Aston Villa was a great fortune for Manchester City at that time,this season, Manchester City is still able to maintain their consistency in winning even though they have continued to receive pressure from Liverpool and Arsenal throughout the season.

I am personally quite curious about the title competition next season whether Manchester City will continue to be able to maintain their championship status or even another team that will be able to break their dominance, because indeed currently several teams have made quite significant improvements to their squad and we can see that next season there will be a new coach's face who will handle rival teams.
Man City are known as the big boys of the EPL especially witb the way they have been able to remain consistent especially once they get an opportunity to win the EPL title. The loss  of Arsenal to Aston Villa saw Man City have better chance at the title and they grabbed it with all their hands as they didn’t lose any game in the run to the title. Of course, no one will expect next season to be pretty easy especially with tho ther teams all gearing up to make their squad full packed with talented players and coaches.

 This will mean more interesting competition in the EPl For these clubs as they want to all run for the title too. ⁠The EPL has always been one fierce competition and I think next season won’t be an exemption as the competition will get real fierce and I can’t wait to see how things all go in the league. The likes of Chelsea and Man United wouldn’t want to still have amother bad run mext season and as such you can expect them to bring in great challenge for the title next season.

 ⁠Man City will not also be sitting to watch as of course they will also do some key additions to their squad and with a tactical genius like Pep, you can be sure of some great fight for the EPL title next season. All competitions in the EPL will be greatly contested, like the UCL spot, UEL Spot and other spots also, so let’s sit tight and wait.
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Arsenal made the same mistake twice, hopefully they won't make the same mistake a third time and the third time they will definitely be able to take the result in their favour.

Repeated mistakes, even when they have a chance to stay away they also fail. If you remember when Man City also lost points from several matches, Arsenal was unable to maximize the match with a victory. Arsenal also lost points, the bad luck of Man City they were able to improve and continue to win in the rest of the competition. This makes Man City better. For today I read that there are 22 non-regular Arsenal players who will leave, it seems that the majority of these players are not senior players.

Source: https://www.arsenal.com/news/22-players-depart-arsenal-end-contacts

I still disagree even when people talk down at Arsenal, it’s obvious last season happened to be another great season for the gunners and the only aim was to win the title but it never happened as planned. Comparing both teams I don’t think it’s best to say Manchester City is better than Arsenal because we all saw how Arsenal planned last season. Arsenal performance last season looks more better compared to other season. The only problem I believe Arsenal is facing right now is lack of a striker as Arteta should make move singing a new player and we’ll see Jurrien Timber play consistence next season. Concerning the recent news I don’t think it will affect the team negatively but, I also read a news headline about Manchester City midfielder Kevin considering leaving the team and we all know Kevin is an amazing player also, so looking at the changes although Kevin has not made any move yet but considering all this I think Arsenal can still shine next season.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/04/kevin-de-bruyne-may-consider-leaving-manchester-city-for-saudi-arabian-club
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Arsenal fans should just stop thinking that Arsenal will be at another level next season, I don’t see arsenal winning the league title next season, first of all, I want to ask, did Manchester City lose any of their players? Or did Manchester City sell out some players? I don’t see Manchester City selling out any of their key players and if Manchester City players are complete and no one was injured before the beginning of the season Manchester City will still win the premier league title, Manchester City squad is complete and no position that The team lacks and that is the first thing we should be thinking of before assuming that arsenal will win the title next season.
It doesn't have to be like that when looking at next season's competition by comparing Manchester City. It is still possible that Manchester City will fail to defend the Premier League title next season. It is still possible that Arsenal will win the Premier League title competition next season.

Until now, none of the main players in the Manchester City squad have been sold, which makes them still complete, but things can still change even though they haven't changed at all in terms of player composition next season.
The Premier League competition is different from other leagues.
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Arsenal made the same mistake twice, hopefully they won't make the same mistake a third time and the third time they will definitely be able to take the result in their favour.

Repeated mistakes, even when they have a chance to stay away they also fail. If you remember when Man City also lost points from several matches, Arsenal was unable to maximize the match with a victory. Arsenal also lost points, the bad luck of Man City they were able to improve and continue to win in the rest of the competition. This makes Man City better. For today I read that there are 22 non-regular Arsenal players who will leave, it seems that the majority of these players are not senior players.

Source: https://www.arsenal.com/news/22-players-depart-arsenal-end-contacts
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Arsenal fans should just stop thinking that Arsenal will be at another level next season, I don’t see arsenal winning the league title next season  ...

You don't see. But it doesn't mean it isn't going to happen 100% buddy.  Smiley  Because of that there is no reason for Arsenal fans to just stop dreaming about a Premier League trophy.

Arsenal have all the potential, we have already witnessed that. They were way better than the 2022/23 season first of all. They scored more goals and conceded much less amount than that. Just because of losing that Aston Villa match on the final moments caused the trophy to slip through their fingers.  Sad  But Arteta has shown already that winning a trophy isn't impossible for Arsenal. He is great at managing this many young players.
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