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I know it’s too early to pass judgment on underperforming teams and top 4 teams right now as the season just started. But But I can guess relegation candidates today.

Everton
Ipswich
Southampton
Leicester city.

Everton that has very good defense during the run in last season have conceded the most goals so far this season. They don’t look good right now. They don’t really put in much defensive work like they did last season.

The contenders for the league title will be very glaring by Game week 5. Liverpool plays Manchester United & Arsenal plays Spurs within that sequence. I think it’s good to play the big games as early as possible, before they know the best player combinations.
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They’ll host their London rival, Crystal Palace at Stamford Bridge this weekend. I’m expecting an exciting game and I tip them to replicate this form.
I think Chelsea will be the favourites to win this match they have a 60% chance of winning while Crystal Palace have 19% which is a very big difference but their chance of drawing is 21% I expect a win in this match and I mean Chelsea and did the same to Wolves before. In the statistics of their meetings Chelsea have won 5 matches against Crystal Palace so I think the bookies will give Chelsea small Odds bets, I am sure Enzo Maresca's men will do their best and not disappoint like their first match at home.
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This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.

Arsenal really began the season with good and positive energy so their match against Brighton wouldn't be a difficult one for them but looking at the head to head of both teams, Arsenal have won Brighton 8 times out of the 17 times they have met each other while Brighton has won Arsenal 8 times and they played 3 draws so the match is gonna be a bit tough but Arsenal have became more stronger towards this beginning of the season as they have already gotten 2 clean sheets in their previous games so this game against Brighton is mos likely to go same direction.
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I'm behind on information it seems because honestly I only found out that Joao returned to Chelsea this season after seeing him play in this match Cheesy
Lol… maybe you don’t follow up the the transfer news that’s why you missed it because almost everyone who follows transfers new knows that Joao Felix has re joined Chelsea on a permanent transfer this time around and is now fully a Chelsea player.
 
Yup I didn't know that a week ago he was made permanent by Chelsea with 45.5 million Pounds for a long-term contract and indeed I was left behind about this because indeed the rumors were a little covered with other rumors especially when discussing some other star players so I missed this player transfer  Grin
Hopefully this choice is right for Joao but indeed at least with Joao at Chelsea, the quality of their attack could be better this season even though now Chelsea's midfielders and attacking players are too piled up.

This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.

Of course this match will be very interesting where Arsenal and Brighton, who at the beginning of this season, seem to want to make their performance conditions continue to improve with the wins made and they have to beat each other in this match.

But looking at the conditions now I don't think this will be easy for Arsenal even though they are still very favorite because of the superior quality of players and playing home but we can see that in the first 2 matches Brighton's performance is quite good.
Both clubs also have quite good productivity in the first 2 matches so I think this will be more interesting where surely both clubs can score goals although I will bet on Arsenal in this match.
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This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.
The match will be interesting but luck and hard work will be with one and only after watching that match will you know which team is play with hard work and which one is not.  If you keep both the perform at par then it will be difficult to predict between them and the match is also interest so it should be interesting to predict.  But I could be wrong but my predictions are mostly correct.  But I will prefer Brighton because they are fast and good team and I will also predict this match in their favor.  If they do not work hard then the opposing team should win the match with hard work. Yes if they show hard work and speed, then the match is theirs.
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This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.
This match will be played in the third week of the English league and looking at the performance of the two teams which has so far been quite impressive in the previous two matches, of course this match has the potential to present a match with high intensity, if we look at the statistics of the meetings between the two teams, it can be said that Arsenal is superior. and are favorites compared to Brighton, but still statistics and head to head cannot be our reference for assessing the performance of the two teams in that match, Arsenal and Brighton in the last match both managed to beat two strong teams in the Premier League and I think the match later will not will be less interesting than the other big match between Liverpool and Manchester United, to be honest, for now it seems like it will be difficult for us to predict who will win, so if you want to bet on this match, of course betting on the number of goals above 2 could be a solution considering arsenal and brighton  have sharp  attacks line.
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Another bad year for Manchester united but at this point it is the norm.

How can you say that? Erik Ten Hag might have had his decisions wrong likewise selections but you can not tell me you didn't see improvements from the Manchester United game against Brighton despite the lose over the weekend. This is a wrong way to tag Manchester United season ahead. I believe and I'm certain they can qualify for top four and also win another silverware at the end if this season.

Below displays a good context of what lead to the first goal. I'm not seeing pundits not Manchester United ex players calling him out for the error made but they're all putting blames on Erik Ten Hag. Disgusting behavior from fans and non fans. This is enough to rule him off the next game against Liverpool and and start with De Ligt. Harry Maguire I have said a zillion times is not a typical Manchester United kind of player.


Also, Manchester United shouldn't have lost if Joshua Zirkzee hasn't come in contact with that Garnacho's goal. Blasting Erik Ten Hag displays how people do not watch football properly.

Manchester United is considered to be the greatest club of England for rightful reasons. But the way they play in the games, it's really poor. They seem like they have no drive, no hunger to win, and no real end product, this makes them suffer long-term.

Erik Ten Hag seems to have things sorted out, he knows tactics and when he is able to field a strong XI, we'll see what happens. They beat Man City just by outplaying them, and Ten Hag's tactics working well here. Now I think it's still early in the season to totally write them off, but the players have to do better. They have to put in more consciousness, they have to be even more hungry to win games. Their next game is against Liverpool, and from the first two games we could see how good Liverpool were. If Man United does not up their game, the derby could go very badly for them at Old Trafford.
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The big win over Wolves does not seem to have satisfied Todd Boehly with the depth of the squad they currently have, even reportedly currently Chelsea are trying to try to exchange players between Sterling and Sancho, so if this happens then we will see an attacking line especially their wing line a very sharp , but about Chelsea interest in Osimhen seems to have disappeared because currently they have 6 players who are positioned as central attacker, The main reason if Chelsea will not bring in Osimhen again at this time is when they actually sell Lukaku to Napoli  without wanting to make the player exchange option previously offered by Napoli, so if Chelsea wants Osimhen of course they will make an exchange between Osimhen and Lukaku previously, But in fact Chelsea have more Lukaku without any option to Napoli, currently I think Chelsea has excessive squad depth so there are no more new players they need to bring in and Maresca just needs to maximize the potential of their players now.
I do not completely understand what he is trying to do. Feels like he is running a "business" which ends up getting as many assets as he can get, to make the value of the club go up. I mean technically speaking, if the players have value, then on paper he can sell the team for a lot, and the one who buys the team could sell as much as 20 players, make a lot of cash, and build a good squad, and that's why he might be doing it.

I do not know if Ted is looking to sell this quickly, but if his plan is to sell then he might be doing the right thing, a company with a lot of liquid cash is great, a company with assets that can turn into cash is even better. But if he is not planning on selling the team anytime soon, the reason for why he does this is still unknown and does not make sense.

Why is he still trying to get more and more players, he already has some and he should be happy with what he has. Not that his team is great, it can be better, but not buying more players on top of who they have. They should do what is suggested, sell about 20 players, and get 2 star players with all that money, would make more sense and could help with the team, imagine have 2 more Cole palmer level players, would make them so much better.
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This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.

This match is now in the center of discussion as these two teams have been playing quite well this season. Brighton won both their first two matches. And the important thing is that Brighton team won against Manchester United in the last match. Brighton won 2-1 against Manchester United. And the performance of Brighton players was stronger than Manchester United in this match.

Arsenal, on the other hand, have won their first two matches against Wolves and Aston Villa. Wolves and Aston Villa were in strong enough positions. However, Arsenal won both matches. Arsenal won both matches 2-0. Arsenal team scored 4 goals in two matches but did not concede a single goal.

Arsenal vs Brighton matches are always competitive. In the last 5 matches between these two teams, Arsenal have won 3 matches and Brighton have won 2 matches. As both the teams are in very good form, the upcoming match will undoubtedly be very exciting.
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Manchester united match yesterday was very annoying after what Brighton did to them last season they couldn't correct their mistakes in the game yesterday, though just imagine the pressure that Brighton was putting on them after 1 goal down in the first half. However, after Manchester united equalize the game 1-1 in the second half I almost concluded that Manchester united is going to won them in the extra time because of the 7 minutes that was given to them, but to my greatest surprise Brighton was able to take the lead in the die minutes what a poor performance from Manchester united prayers.
The way Manchester United came back into the match in the second half we assumed that at least Manchester United would draw this match but going into extra time they made the same mistake which resulted in them losing a point in a match they surely could have got a point from. Man United signed a new defender to their club which led to high expectations for the defense but as usual Manchester United's defense once again disappointed and they showed an unprofessional side. The season has just started if they didn't lose points early on then they would have regained their confidence in the later matches and when they were towards the top of the points table they would have tried to maintain this top position. Hopefully Manchester United will not make such mistakes in the next matches and they will definitely perform like professional teams.
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This match still has 5 days left and I think it is very interesting to discuss because both clubs are in very good condition.
From the history of the meeting of the two clubs, Arsenal is actually still the favorite in the upcoming match, but the problem seems that Brighton at the beginning of this season is not a club that is easy to underestimate.
Even being able to beat Man Utd in the previous match and this is a great spirit for Brighton players.
Arsenal is still the same as before with great ambitions to win the EPL title so this match will be a really interesting match to watch.
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He was just an average player therefore he shouldn't be criticizing someone that is trying to improve.
I don't think having achievements should be a requirement for criticizing players though. Not to mention some players with achievement don't know what the hell they are talking about. I mean, even somebody like me can say that A should score more, that's like basic observation.

On the other hand, I do think players need to cut off social media. The line between 'disrespect' and 'responding to critcism' is way too thin and people can twist whatever they say based on their agenda. There's no point listening to the media or some random people, it doesn't improve their skill.
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Another bad year for Manchester united but at this point it is the norm.

How can you say that? Erik Ten Hag might have had his decisions wrong likewise selections but you can not tell me you didn't see improvements from the Manchester United game against Brighton despite the lose over the weekend. This is a wrong way to tag Manchester United season ahead. I believe and I'm certain they can qualify for top four and also win another silverware at the end if this season.

Below displays a good context of what lead to the first goal. I'm not seeing pundits not Manchester United ex players calling him out for the error made but they're all putting blames on Erik Ten Hag. Disgusting behavior from fans and non fans. This is enough to rule him off the next game against Liverpool and and start with De Ligt. Harry Maguire I have said a zillion times is not a typical Manchester United kind of player.


Also, Manchester United shouldn't have lost if Joshua Zirkzee hasn't come in contact with that Garnacho's goal. Blasting Erik Ten Hag displays how people do not watch football properly.
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This is the first biggest win this season in the Premier League. Chelsea played very well, they were very effective in building attacks and they deserved this victory. Wolves also did not play badly in the first half,

Chelsea was on fire yesterday match by giving wolves what they did not imagine, I still cannot believe that Chelsea will be able to pull the performance they did yesterday considering the fact that wolves gave arsenal some strong resistant before they finally lose 2:0 to arsenal, there performance was indeed a shocking one to so many people because after Chelsea lose to Manchester City so many people concluded that Chelsea is not in a good shape, so I believe that with there performance yesterday they will realize that Chelsea still have some of there strength in them, however is very unfortunate for wolves because they have started this premier league season very bad because from the two matches they have played they have nothing to write home about plus the numerous goals they have also conceived.
Yes something like that happened but I thought that Al Nasr would change the match and win the match by scoring more goals.  But my guess was wrong because the performance of the opposing team also looks like this, otherwise Al Nasr would have won this match.  And this is the reason why I was betting with Al Nasr that Ronaldo will score and win the match for his team.  . 

In the case of Al Nasr they seem very weak for me compare to that of there last season because with how strong I consider them to be I never believe that they can lose 4:1 to any of the club on there league but little did I no that Al Hilal will beat them 4:1 on there super cup, though Ronaldo managed to score the first goal but after then they lost performance and Al Hilal humiliated them on the match, actually during the early time Ronaldo joined the club if I'm not mistaken Al Nasr was the best club but now there are other clubs that are more better than them and besides Ronaldo's age has beginning to affect his performance because he is no longer vibrant as he use to be, though they would have win there last match if not for the penalty that made them end the game with draw.
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Match day 2 and this is your conclusion? Well, it's cool though. I would love to see them do this consistently before I can admit that they won't be needing a new number nine striker.
Before making such conclusions, don't forget it's not how far but how well. We will see what they can achieve in the Premier League Competition. Chelsea has always had a great past with Italian managers honestly. I have also said it before now, Enzo Maresca wouldn't be the last one of them. Below is the image of Nicholas Jackson disrespecting club legend John Mikel Obi on his socials. He scored a goal today and thinks he can shut a club legend who has seen more glory than him?

People will day Mikel caused this for himself but he has played with world class strikes like Didier Drogba and Fernando Torres so, he knows what he is saying.


Chelsea legend with which achievement please as I do not think Mike obi is a Chelsea legend. He doesn't have history with Chelsea as others that are legends have. He was a good player that knew his role in the team and was used well by José Mourinho when the game needed to be stabilized by holding down the midfield. He wasn't a regular player that starts every game but was used more as a substitute. He won many trophies with Chelsea but did he contribute outstanding that he was pointed out as the reason Chelsea won a game. He was just an average player therefore he shouldn't be criticizing someone that is trying to improve.

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I'm behind on information it seems because honestly I only found out that Joao returned to Chelsea this season after seeing him play in this match Cheesy
Lol… maybe you don’t follow up the the transfer news that’s why you missed it because almost everyone who follows transfers new knows that Joao Felix has re joined Chelsea on a permanent transfer this time around and is now fully a Chelsea player.

I don't think Chelsea's defense is as bad as they say, it's just that their performance is very unstable. This team needs a coach who is truly respected by the players, like Tuchel or Jose Mourinho in the past, but now many players feel confused because they often get a different coach every new season.
For now the defense is not perfect but they will definitely improve with time. They are just new to the system and it’s normal for players to feel a bit confused when there is changes in team play and instruction by the manager. All the players have talent and i believe that they will be stable with time.
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Chelsea needs both a striker and more defenders to further boost its squad to be able to match shoulders with fellow Big teams Manchester city, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester united. If Osimhen finally comes to Chelsea it will definitely further boost the team performance incredibly and enhance Chelsea's frontline players performance, the current Chelsea defense line seem to be the poorest and the worst that Chelsea has ever had.
Chelsea are still trying to bring in new players before the transfer window closes, now their priority is recruiting a forward, perhaps Osimhen is a priority to increase the sharpness of the front line. Chelsea need a new goal machine to compete with other top clubs such as Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. Osimhen will complement Chelsea shortcomings in the front line which has so far struggled to maintain its sharpness.
The defense area also needs to be improved slowly, Chelsea must be able to maintain the solidity of their defense so that they are not constantly under pressure due to conceding goals very easily. Enzo Maresca, who is trusted as the head coach, must be able to end Chelsea's habit of firing coaches very often. The victory that has just been achieved must be maintained to maintain their chances of entering the top four.
The big win over Wolves does not seem to have satisfied Todd Boehly with the depth of the squad they currently have, even reportedly currently Chelsea are trying to try to exchange players between Sterling and Sancho, so if this happens then we will see an attacking line especially their wing line a very sharp , but about Chelsea interest in Osimhen seems to have disappeared because currently they have 6 players who are positioned as central attacker, The main reason if Chelsea will not bring in Osimhen again at this time is when they actually sell Lukaku to Napoli  without wanting to make the player exchange option previously offered by Napoli, so if Chelsea wants Osimhen of course they will make an exchange between Osimhen and Lukaku previously, But in fact Chelsea have more Lukaku without any option to Napoli, currently I think Chelsea has excessive squad depth so there are no more new players they need to bring in and Maresca just needs to maximize the potential of their players now.
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Wolves - Chelsea is the most electrifying match I have watched since the season started. From Chelsea’s performance today, I don’t think Enzo Maresca needs a number 9 anymore. Nicolas Jackson was impressive in the game scoring one goal and gave an assist. No doubt, having Victor Osimhen in the team would be a great addition to the squad but right now I don’t think it is a necessity for Chelsea especially with the money involved in that signing.
The thrill from this game is inexplicable because I never saw that coming, not from Chelsea. If it were to be Manchester city, it would have been a very different scenario but with Chelsea, I never for once taught they were going to put up such brilliance at this point of the league and to make it more intriguing, it has to be against wolves and not a just regular team that could be seen like okay it's a less superior team to them. Chelsea having victor osimhen will add a whole lot to them and will get them producing this kind of results even often than they have just done in this game.
The big win was quite surprising, I also didn't expect Chelsea to score that many goals at Wolves' headquarters, Chelsea's attack this season seems quite deadly, they can do that to Wolves, how about other clubs that are weak clubs, it's a shame they met Manchester City in the opener this season so they lost their first 3 points, I hope this is a good start for Chelsea so they can compete like a top club.

If Victor Oshimen was at Chelsea, it would increase their attack power, but it seems that this player will not be recruited by Chelsea this season because of the large transfer fee and salary because Chelsea also considered that.
Yea, it's not only you that was surprised, I was really surprised too bro, I initially I thought that wolves was going to win because in the first half, their defense and their actions on the ball were a lot better than Chelsea even though Chelsea scored first, but they always clawed back into the game, so I thought with the kind of performance I saw in the first half, they would be able to win if they had replicate such performance in the second half, but it was actually a total different ball game, they were actually destroyed in the second half by Chelsea.

And talking of Chelsea, I think that they really need to work on their defensive set up, because with what I have seen so far from them this season, I believe that their biggest weakness is their defense, and till they fix that and also aquire a top level center forwarder, I don't see them challenging for the title now, I think that qualifying for this year uefa champions league will be very much achievable if they can be consistent enough in getting the desired result, but as for the league, I think it's way too much to ask from them, as for now.
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Chelsea needs both a striker and more defenders to further boost its squad to be able to match shoulders with fellow Big teams Manchester city, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester united. If Osimhen finally comes to Chelsea it will definitely further boost the team performance incredibly and enhance Chelsea's frontline players performance, the current Chelsea defense line seem to be the poorest and the worst that Chelsea has ever had.
Chelsea are still trying to bring in new players before the transfer window closes, now their priority is recruiting a forward, perhaps Osimhen is a priority to increase the sharpness of the front line. Chelsea need a new goal machine to compete with other top clubs such as Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United. Osimhen will complement Chelsea shortcomings in the front line which has so far struggled to maintain its sharpness.
The defense area also needs to be improved slowly, Chelsea must be able to maintain the solidity of their defense so that they are not constantly under pressure due to conceding goals very easily. Enzo Maresca, who is trusted as the head coach, must be able to end Chelsea's habit of firing coaches very often. The victory that has just been achieved must be maintained to maintain their chances of entering the top four.
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I don't think Chelsea's defense is as bad as they say, it's just that their performance is very unstable. This team needs a coach who is truly respected by the players, like Tuchel or Jose Mourinho in the past, but now many players feel confused because they often get a different coach every new season.
This is more than just rotation of different coaches from the fact that these defense, the CB to be precise got injured and then was sideline for long came back a shadow of themselves though Fofana is gradually coming back to his best while player like B. Badiashile is fat from it.
This is the reason Chilwell has lost his place I'm the team remember how fearsome he was when he first arrived before all his injuries woes brought him down.

Chelsea and its management have big ambitions to rise and become the most competitive team in the Premier League again, but unfortunately their efforts so far can almost certainly be said to have failed miserably. A lot of money has been invested in players, but in fact their performance is very far from what is expected.
Todd Boehly spent without proper consideration and he is still doing same thing buying academy players from huge fee and then now most is still loaned out while others if they will be sold won't be up to what was use on them this is disappointing. While the likes of Enzo, Caicedo and Mudryk fee was a bad bargain I think there might be hope for them becoming a better player in the end until then Chelsea likely we continue to struggle

The previous match against Wolves was good, of course because Chelsea seemed possessed by scoring 6 goals for a 2-6 win. But I believe that such performance cannot be sustained.
Sadly this is a sad truth about Chelsea's, I don't have high hopes on the defense and Sanchez, I don't really expect much good from them except they improve from the fact that the defense are not usually aware of the opposition team players that are un their box and then a give much free space for them to capitalise on their flaws.
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