Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 207. (Read 59105 times)

In the last 20 seasons Arsenal have struggled to win prestigious titles, but still they have been able to win some trophies that are not too prestigious such as the Community Shield and also the FA, when you say Arsenal do not have a winning mentality of course you ignore the cause of Arsenal often getting out of the winning path in the last 20 seasons,  If you are a football fan, of course you know that Arsenal first became a respected team before Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool rose, even as I remember Liverpool before Klopp came and their management spent a lot of money at that time in fixing the squad , we can see Liverpool were fasting for more than 30 years, as well as Manchester City and Chelsea who rose after they were taken over by wealthy owners.

I'm not an Arsenal fan, but I've noticed that Arsenal often lose titles because they sold a lot of star players and that was done to finish the creation of the Emirates Stadium after they moved from Highbury Stadium and the cost of completing the Emirates Stadium was paid off a season before Wenger resigned as Arsenal coach, in recent seasons Arsenal rebuilt the team to compete for the championship and rely on it Many of their young players are still able to give color to Premier League football if football is not just spending a lot of money, now Arsenal are starting to try to combine their squad with young and senior so as we see now Arsenal are starting to be title challengers, from all the processes that exist and also competitive competition in the Premier League of course Arsenal fans will not see results instantly but at least now Arsenal start has promising prospects for champions.

Indeed, their performance is strong so they can handle everything quite well. It is true that last season, Manchester City was able to win the Champions League title and the English title because they had good performance. To be honest, yesterday I panicked when they were in the rankings. secondly, because I think Arsenal are more consistent this season, but in fact Manchester City is no less consistent in their performance. they proved this season they can secure first place in the Premier League.

With the match taking place at the same time, I was happy to see that Arsenal was one goal behind Everton. I thought Everton could survive with that score, but Arsenal, who had a good performance, could also turn things around. Arsenal and Liverpool must try to appear more consistent next season. Some said yesterday they wanted Manchester City to lose against West Ham because they wanted a new champion in the Premier League, unfortunately Manchester City's excellent performance cannot be denied.

After seeing the fact of everything that Arsenal has prepared to celebrate their success in winning the EPL title race, I feel sad for Arsenal and all their fans. The most tragic thing happened after Arsenal failed to win the EPL title race. Arsenal supporters reportedly committed suicide after their team failed to compete with Manchester City in the race for the EPL title.
Arsenal has shown improved performance recently after being handled by Arteta, there is no reason for Arsenal to fire Arteta for this failure because Manchester City is still very consistent in maintaining its performance. Arteta must be more serious in managing Arsenal next season to achieve something they failed to achieve in the last two seasons.

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It means arsenal has no winning mentality. That being said arsenal is not worthy enough to win the PL trophy. The better for them to keep trying to till the next decade. Arsenal is very good for betting on the match, not for the outright. I would prefer to take a club other than arsenal when it comes to the title race.
As you can see that how arsenal once again shows another poor performance. Im sure many people are also aware of this about how this club is doing bottle jobs in any season.

It's enough for me to hear arsenal to keep try in the upcoming season. it's been more than two decades but keep trophyless.

Manchester City is indeed a strong club in the Premier League and no one can deny that and we also need to realize that this is true, they have played the game with passion and have not given up even if they are judged in the last 4 seasons Manchester City has played consistent even though they have to divide their focus not only in the Premier League but also in other major competitions and try to win titles in all competitions but the Premier League cannot be separated from Manchester City's priorities. The proof is that last season Manchester City was also able to win the Champions League title and also the title League English.

Arsenal and Liverpool must try hard next season to appear as consistent as Manchester City and not waste opportunities this season. Both clubs failed to break Manchester City's dominance because Manchester City's performance was more consistent than them. So for next season, hopefully Arsenal or other clubs can be better. consistent and breaking Manchester City's record. I believe the Premier League is a competitive league. Every club has quite good finances because the Premier League is a rich league and they can improve their respective performance by buying players.

During the acquisition of Man City by Syech Mansour, significant changes occurred in the Man City camp, they were able to buy the star players they wanted. Of course they can also bring in the best coaches. In this case, we try to see what Pep Guardiola has achieved. Since winning a third consecutive title last year, Guardiola has been determined to do something no team has ever achieved before. And as he often does, the Spanish coach managed to do it. Guardiola has made history by winning his fourth trophy in a row taking his total to six titles.

 Many doubted Pep Guardiola before he joined City and there was much dissatisfaction among supporters when he failed to win a single trophy in his debut season. But Guardiola was able to overcome the team's biggest weakness the following season, namely defense, they recruited three defenders and a goalkeeper, And it didn't take long for his team to succeed as they won 19 of their opening 20 games.

Even arsenal has been practicing once they got the trophy. It's all vanished in matters of hours after manchester city was destroying westham with decent scores. Glad to see king city made arsenal gave false hopes to the its fans again. They have no reason to make another excuses if arsenal is a bottle job club.

King city deserved EPL trophy this season. There will be another trophy to come soon. Glad to see city once again did it to the arsenal.

honestly speaking Arsenal performance for the past two years ago now was very very anoing because if you check England premier league last season and this season you would see that Arsenal had the opportunity of taking the premier league title, the most anoing part was last season all must everybody have already concluded that Arsenal is going to be the champion of England premier league but they didn't utilize it they still give up along the way, Arsenal have really missed used their opportunity and it will be very had for them to be the champion of England premier league again.

The saddest thing is, Arsenal have even prepared buses, preparing t-shirts if they win the EPL. Eh, they actually failed to win the EPL because Man City managed to beat Westham. However, Arsenal's overall performance this season is quite good, but they need to update their reserve squad and dare to rotate players. Arteta is worth keeping, I think Arteta's seat remains safe.

Arsenal's mistakes when losing to Aston Villa. Since Arsenal lost 0-2 to Aston Villa, I have predicted that Man City will become EPL champions this season. Because if you look at the history of Man City, from the past when Man City was still being coached by Pellegrini, if Man City was ahead on points or the same points but still had 1 match left, it would be very difficult for them to slip up, especially because this season Arsenal could win the EPL with Man City hopes to lose in the last match, which is very impossible. Apart from Man City successfully winning the EPL four times in a row, Ortega's save against Totteham will also always be remembered by Man City fans.

However, there is something interesting about the EPL league this season. Man City doesn't need to lead the standings much to become EPL champions, maybe only 6/7 weeks. And in week 37 he only led the standings and in week 38 he immediately became champion. Meanwhile, Arsenal and Liverpool dominated the standings but failed to win the EPL.

Those times are long gone. We still pretend that there are some arch-rivalries between clubs from the same city, but no one cares about that anymore other than the fans.
Now all the top clubs have the majority of players and coaching teams that are not local, who changed their clubs multiple times in their careers and they'd simply put their personal interests before any club animosities.
So when they get paid bonuses for wins, goals scored or assists made and when good performance can be converted into better career opportunities - they would not sacrifice that and lose a game just to spite some rival team.

The three teams were inconsistent at some point and Liverpool was even better at first but they couldn’t maintain the pace and they started to lose focus after they drop points to Manchester United. After that match Liverpool was not themselves anymore and that was how they lost out in the race.

Arsenal actually caused everything on themselves, they were so inconsistent and lost unnecessary points to clubs they should’ve won easily and it cost them the title. They didn’t better than last season but they should’ve understood that losing points to inferior teams is very bad for title contenders.

Arsenal was good this season but they were inconsistent at some point, I can still recall how they lost to Fulham, West Ham and Aston Villa, they lost to Aston Villa twice which is not good for title contenders. These are teams they should have won easily. Losing to Aston Villa was a terrible mistake but it wasn’t the only reason why they lost the title, had it been they were able to win Fulham or West Ham then it should have be a different story.

I came across several Arsenal fans in the last few days. They told me that Tottenham and a few other teams really didn't want to help Arsenal win the title, especially since they couldn't beat Manchester City. Some time ago it was said that Tottenham fans would rather lose than see Arsenal win, that was clearly very painful for Arsenal to hear.

However, basically Arsenal is not a team that has a winning mentality. They still depend on other teams for their fate instead of doing something for themselves. Arsenal must be able to beat Manchester City's dominance if they want to win the title, of course they also can't expect other teams to help them in critical times, especially when it comes to beating Manchester City. So it's a bit embarrassing to say that other teams don't want to help, while Arsenal themselves have failed to maintain their performance and consistency in winning points.

We all will agree that Arsenal really did well since January till now but around late last year we will also agree that they were inconsistent which cost them the league, if they were actually consistent around that time what will the week 33lost to Aston villa mean to them will be minimal because they would have still  be topping the league till season end by which they will become league winners.

Hooe you get what I meant now?

I saw this today and I got really sad for Arsenal.    This season was really special for them. They managed to stay in the championship race until the final moments of the season. But they couldn't make it anyway. It is really not an easy task to do this job with young players indeed. Especially while there is a team like Manchester City in the same league. 

Arteta's seat must be safe anyway. It must be. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair for him. He is one of the best managers of the Premier League. Who knows maybe next season is the time for Arsenal... 

I don’t believe you for saying that Arsenal are inconsistent this season, in fact, they are the most consistent team in the league, they are just unlucky as they lost to Aston Villa in their match week 33 and that is the main reason why Arsenal lost the title to Manchester City because Manchester City is very good at the end of every season.

On Champions League case, they Arsenal are also willing to go far in the Champions League, but Bayern Munich showed experience and eliminated them with just one goal difference, but the whole world know that Arsenal is trying now and Arteta will soon bring glory back to Emirate.

Actually Arsenal was not focusing on the Champions league, the reason they failed to win the league was because they were inconsistent at some point in the league which was late last year and how these three teams Liverpool, man City and Arsenal were going during the league season shows Liverpool were title favourite but they end up bottling up the league with a disappointing season ending performance while at that time Arsenal as already been written off but we can say Arsenal did better than their last season because of the consistency they showed during 2024 session of this concluded season.

Any team who really wants to win the league now must be aware that in order to out perform Man City they need to be consistent throughout the whole season.

I also have the feeling that no matter what team played yesterday against City , they all would have lost because that was a god-like form from City and I'm still surprised that they only scored 3 goals because the score could have very well been at least 5-0.

Yep , Arsenal made a huge mistake in the last 10 minutes against Villa and that ended up with a title lost but let's be honest and admit that City deserved to be champions this year but also massive prompt for Arsenal to achieve such a big number in points as that is the first time in history where a 2nd team achieves 89 points without winning the title. 

From the start of the match City really dominated West Ham. They play in half court. City really put pressure on West Ham and didn't give them space to develop the game. The result was a quick goal in the 2nd minute from Phil Foden's super shot. Overall City recorded 12 shots on goal. Areola really works very hard to keep his goal from conceding more goals.

The match against Aston Villa is truly crucial. Arsenal was really unlucky as they lost by 2 goals in the last minutes of the match. In fact, if the match ends in a draw, Arsenal will still fail to win the EPL trophy. Statistically Arsenal dominated a bit but Aston Villa really played well that night. In fact, if Arsenal wins and the rest is the same as now, Arsenal will become champions with a collection of 92 points. This is a really difficult time for all the players and team management because they have been runners-up twice in a row.

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We can announce Arne Slot has agreed a deal to become the club’s new head coach, formally taking up the position on June 1, 2024, subject to a work permit 🙌
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I don't know about strongest team but this performance is made possible all thanks to Arsenal who have been breathing on their necks from the start of the season...but I think when City will be making replacements of their older players, Arsenals youngsters would have grown and they have the experience already from Champions league & EPL which makes this team one to look out for as they will bring some silverware sooner or later...


Nice of you to give Arsenal some credit for the work put into their games

City without Guardiola isn't city, but then again before Pep came through these guys  with Roberto Machini have been destroying teams and I don't see this changing should he decide to leave... otherwise the citizens are a well balanced team and ready for a new challenge, and at the moment Arsenal are the only team that come close to their calibre.