Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 202. (Read 59108 times)

And Manchester United was impressive last season but this season all they do is lose matches and to some extent it was as if they were becoming worse than chelsea, them winning the FA was a miracle and it was an unexpected situation that they were able to put run us. True that something is wrong with Manchester United management and couple with the fact that their players are always going on injuries affected the club seriously and if it is about about money they spent they did not spend half of it compared to what Chelsea spent. If coach will try to do their work and that is exactly what Wenger did, and I know when the management spends money they expect a better result. Let’s assume that they tried when they won the FA cup but they need to do more, I know Ten is trying is best but he needs to do more.

Out of every season this season was the worst for united it got to a point in the premier league that they don’t have any serious impact on the premier league this season, last season they were able to finish top four but this season was a different one for Manchester United they finished on the 8 position. So it shows that they were zero improvement from Manchester United after the previous season, maybe next season will be better worse and good and that will result into an average performance. Or either way they will get worse to perform. Am sure Ten is working on something.

When the Chelsea owners sacked Pochettino and said if they would prioritize a young coach to replace Pochettino, I thought Xavi and De Zerbi would be strong candidates to bring changes to the Chelsea squad next season, especially since both young coaches continue to be linked with Chelsea after they no longer coach their previous club, but instead now we see if Enzo Maresca who managed to get Leicester City back promoted To the Premier League will be the next Chelsea coach, maybe it is not too difficult for Chelsea to get Enzo Maresca from leicester city because it will be very difficult for a coach to refuse a big team who wants to sign him, because indeed offers like those coming from Chelsea will not come twice in his career.

Here We Go..!!
Finally, after difficulties in getting an agreement, now Chelsea have officially made Enzo Maresca as coach next season and Chelsea have reached an agreement to pay some compensation to Leicester City for the occurrence of the agreement, next season Enzo Maresca will officially coach Chelsea with a contract duration of 5 years until June 2029 with an option to extend the contract until 2030.

Even though they managed to win the FA Cup, the club management's decision to carry out an evaluation was the right decision. Club management needs to evaluate Ten Hag's overall performance in one or two full seasons. This can enable them to make wise decisions. Just because he won the FA Cup doesn't mean Ten Hag should be retained. But some fans have grown to like Ten Hag and hope the club keeps him for next season. Some other fans think Ten Hag should be sacked because United's current performance is not the Manchester United they want to see.

They should get it done completely, if this is the coach they have plans with for the next few years, then I believe they'll do just fine. This Enzo Maresca one time worked under or with Josep Pep Guardiola as his assistant coach and he is also Italian who I know are always tactically sound and and will do a good job.

Talking about Italian coaches brings me good memories of Antonio Conte anf the season he was in charge of Chelsea. I hope to see same with Enzo Marasca but he'll definitely face challenges when he arrives. I have seen games he handles and how tactically brilliant he's been with Leicester City. I'm already positive to say they'll compete hard for the Premier League Competition next season. They have a pretty talented squad of players now they've gotten a good coach to lead em.

Yeah, Antonio Conte has not plans in the Premier League Competition, I would love to see what he can achieve with them since they'll not be involved in any of the European Competitions for next season.

Of course it’s no longer news that Man United has win the FA Cup which is 2 titles for Man United in his 2 seasons and you can boast of that. Well I think the fans aren’t ready to stay less ok that because of how big the club is and how much more they want from the club. ⁠At this point, I think there will be proper scrutiny of performance level of ETH for the past 2 seasons and decisions will be made as to whether to keep him or axe him.

 There are quite a number of fans who are wanting a managerial change despite him winning the FA Cup and it’s quite understandable. ⁠You can’t blame it on injury, because most of these players were brought in by you and of course you should have some idea on how to manage the injury crisis. Of course Ten Haag in no way has developed this team rather he has broken some shameless dirty records of the team such as heaviest defeat, season highest loss of 14, most goals conceded only to mention a few.

 ⁠Well it’s still all seen as sidetalks till we get a clear message from the management, then we understand the fate of the club. At this point I think them getting a great manager is what the club needs at this point in time. But like I said a clear message from the management would be necessary cause lots of fans are so eager to know the next manager or if Ten Hag would continue with his present job.

Ten Hag has managed to give two trophies to Manchester United during his time in coaching, of course we should appreciate that but I think still Ten should be sacked by Manchester United management, by having a squad like the current one of course ten Hag should be able to be a contender for the Premier League title and not just boast of the two minor trophies they won in the last season,  Manchester United are reportedly in a meeting to determine Ten Hag future at Manchester United and even after the FA final is over, Manchester United officials are still silent about whether Ten Hag will stay or be sacked later.

It is reported that this week Sir Jim Ratcliffe and the club management will conduct a thorough evaluation of Ten Hag performance in the last two seasons and Fabrizio Romano confirmed that a decision on Ten Hag future at Manchester United will come out next week, so I think at the moment the fans are in a state of alarm if indeed maybe Ten Hag will stay at Manchester United, Because indeed the majority of Manchester United fans today do want Ten Hag to be sacked and they want a new coach who is able to lift Manchester United performance next season.

Erik Ten Hag's success in presenting the FA trophy for the team is indeed worthy of appreciation and he is also worthy of consideration to remain as coach of Manchester United.

In this season, it must be admitted that overall Erik Ten Hag is having a really hard time because quite a lot of Man United's main players have been injured so that the team's performance has been quite disrupted and because of this it has also made Man United unable to compete at the top of the standings and indeed I think that Erik Ten Hag is not entirely to blame.
Since this time Erik Ten Hag has made progress with the team and that must continue because if Man United Management looks for a new coach again then they will have even more difficulty starting the process.

Todd Boehly sucks. Chelsea will soon be managed by another low-level coach which is not understandable why the owner should do this. We both agree that Maresca was not a fitting name for Chelsea at this moment considering the he lacks of experience in managing the big club. I would rather go with Mourinho again than him and the blues gets fucked by its owner. I'm not sure what the new owner of Chelsea is lacking in terms of vision and he is totally has no clue about football. He also has a very large ego, which was costing the team a lot.
The players must also adapt to the new coach. It was disastrous for the club. Things have been going so wrong for Chelsea as long as Todd Boehly is still the club's chairman.

He was plainly destroying Chelsea by signing another Graham Potter.




Is there no good young coach available at this moment? I would rather go for conte than maresca. They have offered him three years on his contracts. As reported by romano, the negotiation with conte will take place tomorrow

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1795171165880615009

We may be seeing the result a week from now. Napoli is still in the progress to recruit him as a new coach.

If the media reports are true, it already has been decided that he's on his way out. Allegedly he already had a talk with Jim Ratcliffe and was informed of the decision.
There was no way he could stay for another season after the club placed in the worst league place since the 1989/90 season (when they ended up 13th).
Although, to be fair to him, when Alex Ferguson took over he was also far from being successful in the first few years. United's places under Ferguson in his first 5 years as the manager were respectively: 11th, 2nd, 12th, 13th and 6th and things massively improved since then.

Anyhow, the big question is who will replace him. Names currently floating around in the news are: Roberto De Zerbi, Thomas Tuchel, Kieran McKenna, Mauricio ­Pochettino and Thomas Frank.

I do not think that there is anything to be confused about. Ten Hag has to go. Winning one match is not enough and should not change the decision of the Manchester United authority. He has not done anything good for the club in my opinion. Every decision that he has taken was biased and was not for the best interest of the club. I do not understand how a coach is still in the club when a lot of players actually leave the club because they have problems with the coach. of course, I do not have to remind people what they had done with Cristiano Ronaldo.

I also believe that changing the coach is not going to be the biggest solution. The owners of Manchester United have to change. They are looking at Manchester United as the moneymaking machine. They are milking this club to make as much money as they can. That is a big reason why they do not like to keep players who take high wages in the club.

Getting the cup made them feel like they have a clean slate, like they have absolutely nothing to worry about at all, but we all know that it is not the case. Like if they keep playing with the same squad and same manager they will do terrible next year too. But because they ended up getting the FA cup, it made them feel like we are going to end up with something much bigger, and that is going to be the key here.

I feel like it is going to end up with nothing at all if they are not careful, and there is a big likely situation that ETH will be fired anyway, not expecting right away, but the owners are talking about it for sure, they wanted to, but this FA confused them. I think they should, and then they should get some new players too. I get that they spent a lot of money, but most of their defense sucked all season long.

Chelsea is closing in on the Enzo Maresca signing for the manager seat. After promoting to the Premier League with Leicester he has drawn the attention to himself. Normally I wasn't expecting Chelsea to go for him.

But on the other hand Chelsea is looking for young managers like I said before. So it should be understandable. However I'm still thinking like rather than such move, Chelsea should prioritize a move for Conte.    If they offer him a contract I think he would think of it seriously as he won a Premier League with them before. Otherwise it seems like Napoli is trying to finalize a deal with Conte recently. They say Napoli is close to making the deal official now.

Because Erik Ten Hag managed to beat Man City and won a trophy to give to his club, I think it will be a consideration for Man Utd in retaining him and maybe giving him the opportunity next season to train the Red Devils again, Ten Hag has done very well in in a match no one expected, with small opportunities and playing with a lot of pressure, Man Utd remains confident in carrying out their attacks. If Man U also does the same thing in important matches this season, maybe they can finish in a better ranking.

Other coaches are not necessarily good for Man United. There have been too many coaches appointed by Man U but none have been as good as Ten Hag in the last few seasons so it is possible that Man U will give him a chance and hopefully this summer he will recruit players who have good potential. and don't fail again in selecting the required players.

Manchester United's performance has been really bad this season. If you look at the overall performance, I think Ten Hag deserves to be fired. But I think the FA Cup will be the difference. Ten Hag managed to give United the FA Cup and they beat City in the final. This is a great achievement. At least United managed to get one trophy this season. I think this result will make the club board and fans give Ten Hag another chance. In my personal opinion, winning really influences psychological factors. I doubt Ten Hag will be sacked even though he gave United one of their worst seasons in history.

Lyon's performance in the Coupe de France final against PSG showcased their resilience to compete at the top level. Despite not clinching the title, they put up a commendable fight, managing to score against an opponent like PSG. This indicates progress for Lyon, demonstrating that they are on the path to recovery after a challenging start to the season. The close match and their ability to resist PSG's attacks points out Lyon's capacity to hold their own against strong adversaries, setting a promising tone for their future encounters.

 The decision to change coaches mid-season proved to be an important one for Lyon. It allowed them to revisit their tactics and approach, enabling them to compete more effectively against top teams. The improvement seen under the new coach gives the importance of timely intervention and strategic decision-making by Lyon's management. With the right leadership in place, Lyon can aim for greater success.

 Maintaining the lineup of players while making strategic changes to the squad is a careful approach for Lyon. This ensures continuity and stability within the team while addressing areas that need improvement. The balanced approach to squad management aligns with Lyon's goal of competitiveness at the highest level of football.

Manchester United journey this season is not good compared to their journey last season, but with the amount of money they have spent, of course, there is something wrong with the management of the team carried out by ten hag, two minor trophies are not one form of success that makes us proud of ten hag, if indeed minor trophies such as the FA and Carabao as a measure of team success of course maybe we will see Wenger currently still at Arsenal,  Because Wenger continued to win at least one minor trophy when still coaching Arsenal before, but a big team that has spent a lot of money certainly has greater expectations than only winning the FA or Carabao Cup so far.

I admit that Manchester United's first season went well under ten Hag, because at that time they were able to climb the top of the Premier League table and bring Manchester United through to the Champions League, but this season of course we have to admit that this season is very bad and even worse than all the seasons Manchester United have lived so far,  Not only was Ten unable to lead Manchester United to stay at the top of the Premier League table, but his performance and worst losing record should certainly be the reason for the management to sack Ten Hag this season regardless of the FA trophy.

I don't mean Manchester United here actually. Because they played exactly how they must have. There is no way they were going to win against Manchester City otherwise.    Erik ten Hag had to play cautious and look for opportunities arising. I meant Manchester City for the boring part. They couldn't do anything for the most part of the game you know which surprised me. Manchester United were great at defending.


Of course, it isn't 100% Onana's fault. The defense shouldn't have let the ball go through. But Onana is also sharing the fault as it was a shot that he could have saved. Anyways, I was already contented with his general performance. 


I checked it out. I agree, luck wasn't the thing that brought the win to the Red Devils here. They deserved it by playing smart.

They had a great second half of the Premier League Competition, they should be thankful they had a player like Cole Palmer who carried the club on his shoulders game after game.
Most importantly they had a good game against Manchester City on both fixtures played and should have won but they lacked precision and togetherness finally to hold down what they had.

During the first half of the Premier League Competition, they lost two goals to nil against Manchester United at Old Trafford, how come you let that escape your mind? Lol.
Arsenal dealt with them and showed how superior they was.

Manchester United didn't have a good season, you don't need to sugar coat it. They lost games they should have won due to Erik Ten Hag's selection and decisions which was as a result of limitations resulting from the squad depth.

They lost to Manchester City and Arsenal on both meetings, maybe you're in a rush to make your post? Lol Lost to Chelsea as well during the reverse fixture.

I was expecting the win from a long time ago and it happened. We'll see what they have to do about the coach staying of leaving. ( Wacked Management who wants profits ) they should have just sold the club to them Saudi's completely.

The season ended not nice for Arsenal and Mikel Arteta, but coaches like Unai Emery and Sean Dyche made me proud. One taking his side to the Champions League after a very long time away, while the later did by avoiding being relegated despite the shambles and points deductions severally.

Despite the fact that United only finished in eighth place in the final standings of the English Premier League, and were eliminated early in the English League Cup and Champions League, Eric Ten Hag successfully colored his two seasons at Old Trafford with trophies each year after bringing the Red Devils to victory. English Premier League champions Manchester City 2-1 in the 2023/24 FA Cup final. After his debut season closed with the League Cup title, in his second season ten Hag won the FA Cup title. Apart from that, during his two years, Ten Hag never let the Red Devils lose their place in Europe. Last season they ended the Premier League as third place to appear in the Champions League.

 Even though this is the worst season in Manchester United's history, finishing in eighth place, the Dutch coach can still deliver trophies, something that England's second best team at the moment, Arsenal, cannot. The question is whether these achievements will guarantee that Ten Hag's position as Manchester United coach is safe?

Nothing much to say, Erik Ten Hag will wait for the evaluation of his job within the last two seasons and not the Fa Cup Competition Finals and I'm convinced he will still be retained as the manager of the club Manchester United.
It has nothing to do with form, it's all about the depth and quality of the squad he currently has which is not enough for this long-term plans and job.
Also he has seen injuries which has affected all his plans for the club. I know fans lacks patience and wants quick success but they have to consider all off these options before they talk about him being sacked.

They played against Manchester United same way they did against Real Madrid in the Champions League Competition, and Manchester United defended like Real Madrid did.