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Making a decision about taking away two points and making a decision about taking whole championships are not the same thing.

I agree they aren't the same incidents. We are talking about a huge thing when it comes to Manchester City. They have been breaking the rules for like many years... Making the right decision is very important for football. Because this can be like a turning point as we haven't mostly seen rich and big teams getting the punishment they deserve.  Smiley

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City will be punished one day, we are just waiting for what the punishment is, will it be a huge one or a small one.

It has to be a huge one considering all the breaches. If they just make do with a small one then people will lose their faith in football to be managed fairly.  Sad  This decision would be a good example for other teams with the same situation too.
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Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool have started scoring goals from the beginning of the season again and at the end of the season we will now see those who are too lazy to win a trophy, the way Arsenal and Liverpool used to take action from the beginning of the summer you will think they are the one that will win the league title, well I can’t judge them this season because they have made a good signing this season and I think those players will help them to fight for a trophy this season.

I support Manchester City in the premier league but this season I prefer Arsenal or Liverpool to win the league because if Manchester City wins the league again it means that the premier league has become a farmers' league where one team will be winning the league trophy every season, arsenal and Liverpool should prove people wrong that they are capable of fighting Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool is the only one that can do that because we all know that Manchester United and Chelsea can’t do anything in premier league again.
I think for the beginning of the season we still haven't seen the teams that will compete for the title except Manchester City and Arsenal because these two teams have had sufficient strength in the last few seasons.

And for Liverpool I think don't expect too much and don't be too excessive for them because Liverpool didn't make many changes for this season except they changed their coach and I think that's a weak point because it's certain that it will be quite difficult for the new coach to be able to improve the team's performance, especially with the fierce competition in the Premier League.

Manchester City is indeed too strong but I don't agree if the Premier League is called a farmer's league because the competition in the Premier League is very fierce even though Manchester City won the title and for this season I think Manchester City will have more difficulty than last season and I think Arsenal will be able to beat Manchester City this season after in the last two seasons Arsenal always lost at the end of the season and I think this season is the right time for Arsenal.
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First Game week is over. It doesn’t look like teams have looked different from last season. They just continued from where they stopped last season. The newly promoted teams doesn’t look too different from the ones that got relegated.

Manchester City didn’t even look blunt. They resumed their usual routine of winning games. Arsenal and Liverpool got their first 3 points without much sweat. Manchester United struggled against Fulham side but managed to secured a narrow victory towards the end of the match. Chelsea are still trying to arrange their squad before they can compete effectively. New signings are coming in everyday and it’ll hinder their growth as they have so many players who want to play.



Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool have started scoring goals from the beginning of the season again and at the end of the season we will now see those who are too lazy to win a trophy, the way Arsenal and Liverpool used to take action from the beginning of the summer you will think they are the one that will win the league title, well I can’t judge them this season because they have made a good signing this season and I think those players will help them to fight for a trophy this season.

I support Manchester City in the premier league but this season I prefer Arsenal or Liverpool to win the league because if Manchester City wins the league again it means that the premier league has become a farmers' league where one team will be winning the league trophy every season, arsenal and Liverpool should prove people wrong that they are capable of fighting Manchester City, Arsenal and Liverpool is the only one that can do that because we all know that Manchester United and Chelsea can’t do anything in premier league again.
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https://www.thepfa.com/news/2024/8/13/pfa-mens-players-player-of-the-year-top-six
Phil Foden- Manchester City
Erling Haaland- Manchester City
Martin Ødegaard- Arsenal
Cole Palmer- Chelsea
Rodri- Manchester City
Ollie Watkins- Aston Villa

These players have been shortlisted for the 2023/24 PFA (Professional Football Association) Player of the Year award. The winner will be announced today at the Manchester Opera House. My prediction is that one of the shortlisted Manchester City players would win the award. Erling Haaland won it last season maybe it might be the turn of Phil Foden or Rodri. The winner might be Phil Foden, who is a two-time PFA Young Player of the Year.

I did expected a couple few names on here but not Ollie Watkins. Could be because I didn't pay close attention to him. Yeah, I forgot he was also called up for the European Championship last month as he was responsible for the winner that lead the three lions to the finals.

All of the names listed are worth it honestly. But I would go see the full list. I think we have more players from Arsenal squad than any other squad. Saliba, David Raya, Gabriel are also players I feel should make the list. They indeed worked really hard last season.

Due to the bad season Manchester United had last season, I don't think any of them players will make it to the first eleven. Cole Palmer in between made me proud even though he is no Manchester United player.
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GOAL says that Leicester is likely to have two point deduction punishments because of allegedly breaching spending rules.

While smaller teams are receiving penalties for breaches as it has to be, big teams aren't treated the same. Manchester City has numerous breaches in the Premier League so far. It must be like 115 charges against them.

I hope this injustice comes to an end this November when their case is going to be at bar. People are making memes out of it but this has really become a serious problem. It isn't fair against other teams.  Sad
Making a decision about taking away two points and making a decision about taking whole championships are not the same thing. There is a serious possibility that Manchester City could lose more than one championship title from the previous seasons if they found guilty, and in that case I do not think that it would be fair to say FA has to rush to make a decision about it, of course it is going to take a long long time to make a such harsh decision. They have to be absolutely 100% clear on the rules and what was broken and how much etc etc, otherwise it makes no sense to give a huge one.

City will be punished one day, we are just waiting for what the punishment is, will it be a huge one or a small one. The reality is that we will not have easy time handling all of this, and that's why we need to focus on how to do better for each team. Leicester has none of that, it is just a mere two points and of course the punishment will not be the same for both.
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First Game week is over. It doesn’t look like teams have looked different from last season. They just continued from where they stopped last season. The newly promoted teams doesn’t look too different from the ones that got relegated.

Maybe not for Leicester City who returned to the EPL with great ambition and made Tottenham bow down to a draw by them. Although Leicester's chances of surviving are not great, but just seeing them come back gives me a little hope that this club seems to be trying to give their best. In the first match against Tottenham, this club was quite good so they were able to be made nervous, especially Vardy return it brought an exciting atmosphere to the EPL.
I also admire Vardy's sense of belonging to his team. Many teams wanted him over the years but he stayed with Leicester. He is one of the best forwards in England in my opinion. He has settled down now but it seems like we will be talking about him a lot in the Premier League again this year. He started the league with a goal by scoring against Tottenham and I believe he will score more goals. I hope Leicester does not get relegated and we continue to watch him.
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First Game week is over. It doesn’t look like teams have looked different from last season. They just continued from where they stopped last season. The newly promoted teams doesn’t look too different from the ones that got relegated.

Maybe not for Leicester City who returned to the EPL with great ambition and made Tottenham bow down to a draw by them. Although Leicester's chances of surviving are not great, but just seeing them come back gives me a little hope that this club seems to be trying to give their best. In the first match against Tottenham, this club was quite good so they were able to be made nervous, especially Vardy return it brought an exciting atmosphere to the EPL.
Leicester City managed to surprise us by holding Tottenham to a draw in their first match, Compared to other teams that were promoted to the EPL this season, it is clear that Leicester City has a greater chance of being able to trouble other teams in the league, apart from the fact that they also have a fairly  It's good squad that they also have a strong mentality in competing in the English league so far, Leicester City surprised us in the 2015/16 season by winning the Premier League and if we look at their current squad they still retain several players who were part of when team be championship at that time, so that's why I think that they have a strong mentality now to be able to compete with strong teams in the Premier League, Leicester City have set foot in the English League again this season and the big teams that exist must consider them as one of the teams that can hinder the journey of a big team in achieving the championship trophy.
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https://www.thepfa.com/news/2024/8/13/pfa-mens-players-player-of-the-year-top-six
Phil Foden- Manchester City
Erling Haaland- Manchester City
Martin Ødegaard- Arsenal
Cole Palmer- Chelsea
Rodri- Manchester City
Ollie Watkins- Aston Villa

These players have been shortlisted for the 2023/24 PFA (Professional Football Association) Player of the Year award. The winner will be announced today at the Manchester Opera House. My prediction is that one of the shortlisted Manchester City players would win the award. Erling Haaland won it last season maybe it might be the turn of Phil Foden or Rodri. The winner might be Phil Foden, who is a two-time PFA Young Player of the Year.
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First Game week is over. It doesn’t look like teams have looked different from last season. They just continued from where they stopped last season. The newly promoted teams doesn’t look too different from the ones that got relegated.

Manchester City didn’t even look blunt. They resumed their usual routine of winning games. Arsenal and Liverpool got their first 3 points without much sweat. Manchester United struggled against Fulham side but managed to secured a narrow victory towards the end of the match. Chelsea are still trying to arrange their squad before they can compete effectively. New signings are coming in everyday and it’ll hinder their growth as they have so many players who want to play.

Changes do not become obvious immediately, you'll need a level of consistency, I'd say until the first week of September precisely before you can see them. I do not think they continued from where they stopped last season. I saw a couple few games and I saw weak points and strength also shown.

I didn't see much of the game so I can't judge or should I say contribute. That game shouldn't have ended that way in my opinion, I saw a draw but things turned out different.

Manchester United created chances but failed to convert them during the first half. That game saw Harry Maguire, Mazraoui and and  Joshua Zirkzee having huge impacts. Arsenal defenders struggled thanks to David Raya who did brilliantly well. Saying Liverpool didn't sweat is laughable. They struggled and couldn't get a shot on target against newly promoted side Ipswich.
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Cucurella better to shut up his mouth, he forget that he's not playing with Spanish teammates instead he's playing with championship level players. Haaland showed who's in front of Cucurella and his goal to Chelsea really make Cucurella can't do anything against Haaland.

It's not surprising to see Chelsea lose against Manchester City even though they're playing in their home.




Chill, mate. Don't take it personally. Even Haaland was feeling fine with it, and yeah, it was only a song and nothing personal. Haaland knew that if Cucu was not seriously mocking him, and it's just a bit of banter from Cucu to the Haaland. Also, on haaland's interview, and he said that Cucu was a funny man.

Haaland seems to be a chill dude. I remember he found it funny when Palmer listened in on their team talk before the freekick. This is a common thing in football. No reason to hate haaland at all.

it's nothing but pure sportsmanship that's going on between cucu and halland. Dude is a funny man that finds a way of playing around and just composed that song to celebrate his victory at the Euros. It's better to even look at it as a show of acknowledgement that halland is a great force to be played against as a defender in the EPL. Chelsea and man city have never had serious rivalry for a while because they aren't a match in terms of thier strength and individual quality. Let's take the food side from this and that's that wining the euros has boosted the confidence of cucu better than it was at the last season. He now sees himself as a strong defender even though they lost against the city side, he still made his mark in the mark and has shown that in games to come Chelsea defence will be a bit solid in under his watch.
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First Game week is over. It doesn’t look like teams have looked different from last season. They just continued from where they stopped last season. The newly promoted teams doesn’t look too different from the ones that got relegated.

Maybe not for Leicester City who returned to the EPL with great ambition and made Tottenham bow down to a draw by them. Although Leicester's chances of surviving are not great, but just seeing them come back gives me a little hope that this club seems to be trying to give their best. In the first match against Tottenham, this club was quite good so they were able to be made nervous, especially Vardy return it brought an exciting atmosphere to the EPL.
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I congratulate Jamie Vardy, despite his advanced age, he is still playing in the Premier League, which is a top-level league. He made a big impact against Tottenham in the match played yesterday. He scored a goal but saved a point for his team. He also became the man of the match. Vardy is a living example of how to play from bottom to top. If he does not experience injury problems, he can play comfortably in this league for 2-3 more years.
Of course, it was a nice performance from Jamie vardy yesterday against Tottenham Hotspur, because after the 1 goal down in the first half I almost concluded that Tottenham is going to take the lead because though the odd that was given to Tottenham was really a winning odd but to my greatest surprise Leicester city was able to level the game 1-1 score draw In the second half... what a great achievement from Leicester city in their first game of the season!

Looking at the premier league table Brighton still remains at the top with 1 goal different in their first game of the season. However, I think their second match is going to determine if they are going to still remains at the top of premier league table.
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First Game week is over. It doesn’t look like teams have looked different from last season. They just continued from where they stopped last season. The newly promoted teams doesn’t look too different from the ones that got relegated.

Manchester City didn’t even look blunt. They resumed their usual routine of winning games. Arsenal and Liverpool got their first 3 points without much sweat. Manchester United struggled against Fulham side but managed to secured a narrow victory towards the end of the match. Chelsea are still trying to arrange their squad before they can compete effectively. New signings are coming in everyday and it’ll hinder their growth as they have so many players who want to play.

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Cucurella better to shut up his mouth, he forget that he's not playing with Spanish teammates instead he's playing with championship level players. Haaland showed who's in front of Cucurella and his goal to Chelsea really make Cucurella can't do anything against Haaland.

It's not surprising to see Chelsea lose against Manchester City even though they're playing in their home.




Chill, mate. Don't take it personally. Even Haaland was feeling fine with it, and yeah, it was only a song and nothing personal. Haaland knew that if Cucu was not seriously mocking him, and it's just a bit of banter from Cucu to the Haaland. Also, on haaland's interview, and he said that Cucu was a funny man.

Haaland seems to be a chill dude. I remember he found it funny when Palmer listened in on their team talk before the freekick. This is a common thing in football. No reason to hate haaland at all.

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I congratulate Jamie Vardy, despite his advanced age, he is still playing in the Premier League, which is a top-level league. He made a big impact against Tottenham in the match played yesterday. He scored a goal but saved a point for his team. He also became the man of the match. Vardy is a living example of how to play from bottom to top. If he does not experience injury problems, he can play comfortably in this league for 2-3 more years.
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Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.
It won't be easy for Yoro because with such a long injury, it's certain that he'll have to adapt his performance again and it's not an easy thing to get back to the way he was.
We can probably take an example of Mount's case last season where when he was injured several times with a long duration, his condition became more difficult in terms of adaptation and ended in failure in the first season.
The hope is of course that Yoro does not find something like that but in this case Manchester United must also have considerations for the worst possibilities like this.
On the other hand, with the presence of De Ligt and Mazraoui it is clear that this will add to the defense to be even better because after all they have to prepare because the season is ready to start now and there will be no more time to relax.

Manchester United have indeed made improvements in their defense, which is a positive development considering the issues they faced last season. I am also looking forward to seeing Leny Yoro's performance as he is considered a talented young defender. Unfortunately, his three-month injury layoff will require him to readjust his performance, which can be challenging. Nonetheless, the addition of De Ligt is expected to strengthen the defense. It is important for Manchester United to be prepared for any potential setbacks and to ensure the team is ready for the upcoming season.
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It was not about Latvia and Calcedio alone. Enzo Fernandez did make quality contributions likewise during that game. I think they shouldn't have substituted Latvia but due to him limping, they had to do that to avoid further cases of injuries. A plenty should have been awarded honestly for Chelsea as that ball was well seen to have come in contact with Kovacic. It shows how much the officiating from last season has not even upgraded.

I wonder why they also kicked Raheem Sterling out of the game, during the last game against Manchester City you'll always want to see him fighting to make sure that they lose maybe to hurt Josep Pep Guardiola.
Todd Boehly looked vexed after the game. He has done good business but what they need right now has got to be the man below. Who saw Nicholas Jackson yesterday? I'm not a fan but hugely disappointed ASF. Victor Oshime is the best shot for Chelsea leading the attack.
I do agree that Osimhen would be insanely good for them without a doubt, but we also need to remember that Napoli is asking 100+ million for him, the last report I remember was 130 million which I think is insane and totally not worth it at all. Doesn't mean Chelsea doesn't need him, of course they need him, but paying 100+ million for Osimhen just because you need him makes no sense to me.

Latest talk was 100+Lukaku, meaning they just pay 100 million only and give Lukaku away too, and Napoli would be willing to do that, but Lukaku is like 20-30 million anyway, so it is not going to be fair for Chelsea again. I think Chelsea should look for someone else, paying that much makes no sense to me at all, doesn't seem reasonable.
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GOAL says that Leicester is likely to have two point deduction punishments because of allegedly breaching spending rules.

While smaller teams are receiving penalties for breaches as it has to be, big teams aren't treated the same. Manchester City has numerous breaches in the Premier League so far. It must be like 115 charges against them.

I hope this injustice comes to an end this November when their case is going to be at bar. People are making memes out of it but this has really become a serious problem. It isn't fair against other teams.  Sad


Yes, sometimes that's how current law, they side with clubs that have rich finances, maybe they also use insiders and bribe individuals who are responsible for handling this problem so that their violations are completely ignored, the FA should have a responsibility that not only burdens the lower clubs, they must also be responsible as they should so that no one feels disadvantaged.
If we look further, Manchester City actually clearly spends more than compared to Everton or Leicester City, but for some reason they seem to turn a blind eye that happened in the last 3 years.
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-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.
Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.
The biggest reason behind Manchester United's poor performances in previous seasons has been their poor defensive lineup but perhaps they have strengthened their defense a bit this season. When the defense is strong, players in every position of the team can play without worry and give their best. In the last few seasons we have seen Manchester United only deteriorate in performance instead of improving gradually but we have high expectations from Manchester United in the coming season. Although they had some injury problems in the last season, Manchester United may not have any injury problems in the next season, then again they have recruited a defender to their club. All in all, a good season is waiting for them.

The performance should be improved as much as if the performance is improved they will be able to play the next season's Champions League. I hope Manchester United management and players will keep this in mind.

Yes, if the team's defense is good then it can perform very well in the attack department.  Because even if the team attacks on the opposite side, those who stay at the goal point can basically perform for a long time without thinking, especially counter attacks are the best place to score the most goals. But in this case, Manchester United plays a very aggressive role, but their playing style is very good and improved in this new season, although they lost the friendly match against Manchester City, but they performed well in the main game. But I think he will definitely put up a strong performance in this new season.
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-snip-but with the experience he has I think De Ligt is still good enough to be an addition to the Manchester United defense line, especially with Yoro's injury which was actually very much expected to make a breakthrough in the defense line, but it still cannot be implemented so that De Ligt can fill that position for the next few months and to make a better adventure at the new club.
Manchester United have really improved their defense and that is a good thing because they had a lot of problems in defense last season. I also hope to see Leny Yoro's performance because he is considered one of the talented young defenders at the moment. Unfortunately, an injury made him out for 3 months and that is not a short time. De Ligt is expected to help the defense and he came at the right time. His performance with Munich was not so good but I think De Ligt is still one of the best center backs at the moment.
The biggest reason behind Manchester United's poor performances in previous seasons has been their poor defensive lineup but perhaps they have strengthened their defense a bit this season. When the defense is strong, players in every position of the team can play without worry and give their best. In the last few seasons we have seen Manchester United only deteriorate in performance instead of improving gradually but we have high expectations from Manchester United in the coming season. Although they had some injury problems in the last season, Manchester United may not have any injury problems in the next season, then again they have recruited a defender to their club. All in all, a good season is waiting for them.

The performance should be improved as much as if the performance is improved they will be able to play the next season's Champions League. I hope Manchester United management and players will keep this in mind.
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