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Chelsea's performance is getting better towards the end of the season, although I also think it will be a big challenge for them to get the title anytime soon, but with time, I believe they will get it because Chelsea have been a great team before. They lost their performance for some time, but I can see that they are gradually building the team back again, and they are coming back with very good performances, so I think we should be expecting something big from them by next season since this season is about to end.
Chelsea have indeed been collecting better result towards the end of the season. This should be a progression that should be continuously improved till next season. They should never have an idea to sack Pochettino who is responsible for this improvements, because another manager has no guarantee to do it better, continuity will have better effect than applying instant upgrade.
A good progress showed at the end of season. This saves pochettino's position. he is now knowing better about how to use his current squad and reduce his high risk decision making to keep play offensively till the end of game.


Chelsea should not put high target for the manager and the players next season, because this improvement won't work well if the players feel a bigger pressure. Finishing top four position next season should be realistic for how the league has been progressing, Challenging Guardiola's Manchester City is too big to be a target for current Chelsea.
A high target is required to motivated all of them, but it must be set even higher than it is now caused by you must also able to pressure your team to perform even better than this time and this is how a professional club. How can you motivate them without even setting a high goal? It's basically the same as when you work for the company but the company gives you a high target for your job. A higher target will motivate you to work even harder to achieve it and this is what the club owner looking for. A better result from the last season. This is also helping the club to climbing up slowly but surely.
Since Pochettino and the entire team worked for Chelsea Football Club, they must be capable of achieving such a goal. Those footballers received a high salary. How can you say that if the owner does not set high expectations for them?
This is a professional club. It's as if you're freelancing.

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Chelsea have indeed been collecting better result towards the end of the season. This should be a progression that should be continuously improved till next season. They should never have an idea to sack Pochettino who is responsible for this improvements, because another manager has no guarantee to do it better, continuity will have better effect than applying instant upgrade.
Chelsea's progress has been very visible recently towards the end of the season. In fact, they are able to leave behind Manchester United and Newcastle United and have the chance to finish in 6th place.
Pochettino began to find a rhythm that made Chelsea's game improve. Players are starting to get together with good cooperation.
The news of looking for a replacement for Pochettino needs to be postponed because one season can immediately take off.
In my opinion, Chelsea has a big chance to be in the top four with Pochettino, one way or another Chelsea can win the title.
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Why will they even think about sacking a coach when the club is beginning to perform well? Chelsea can never think about sacking Pochettino right now, maybe if things get worse later in the future, they might think about it. If Chelsea can sack Pochettino, who are they going to replace him with? If they sack Pochettino, they are just taking Chelsea backward.

Some could say that 6th place is disappointing for Chelsea owners and fans (they still have a chance for 5th place or could drop to 7th), but given that Pochettino took the club over only in July 2023, and the team's performance seems to be steadily improving, then I don't think he's position is in any risk. Maybe only unless Chelsea somehow managed to attract one of the highest-profile coaches like Xabi Alonso or Jurgen Klopp.
Building a team simply takes a lot of time, and the next season will be more indicative of whether or not Mauricio is a good manager.
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They don't believe Man City will trip in the final game. Especially knowing West Ham have absolutely at stake here. Win or lose, they will finish in the 9th place.
So if anyone still truly believes that Arsenal can win the league, here's a good time to back it up with a wager. I don't.

Those who still believe that Arsenal still has the opportunity to win the league are Arsenal fans and again I think they don’t know Manchester City and what they are capable of doing, Manchester City will beat Westham with more than two goals in the game, many Arsenal fans and also the team are still waiting for Manchester City to play against Westham and see the result so that they can see what will be their plan, there is nothing for arsenal to plan because Manchester City 99%  sure to win the league, Westham that don’t have a good performance this season want to challenge Manchester City and stop them from winning the title, Even Arsenal know that Manchester City will beat Westham.

I saw a news yesterday, I don’t know if it is real or fake, Kudus the wing player of Westham say he will try his best against Manchester City and make sure they fight and allow Arsenal to win the league, I just laugh when I see the news because it sounds as funny to me, Kudus that find it difficult to score throughout this 2024? I just don’t want us to discuss more it but we will see what will happen next after the game of Manchester City and Westham.
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Chelsea have indeed been collecting better result towards the end of the season. This should be a progression that should be continuously improved till next season.
This season has already ended. Chelsea should focus on how to improve their performance next season. Chelsea started poorly this season, nobody expected so much improvement in their performance towards the ending. If Chelsea started performing well early, they would have been in a better position, but I am still happy they are beginning to understand themselves. Pochettino is beginning to figure out the appropriate squad for the team.

They should never have an idea to sack Pochettino who is responsible for this improvements
Why will they even think about sacking a coach when the club is beginning to perform well? Chelsea can never think about sacking Pochettino right now, maybe if things get worse later in the future, they might think about it. If Chelsea can sack Pochettino, who are they going to replace him with? If they sack Pochettino, they are just taking Chelsea backward.
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I do agree that Chelsea has a good potential for the future, with the young players that they have, and definitely lead by Palmer as well, we are going to keep thinking that we are going to do better. That doesn't mean that we are going to see them win the title, of course that is not going to be easy, but we are not going to see anything worse than that.

We should probably consider how to get better with time, and that means that we are going to end up with a result that will not be all that simple. Obviously this is going to take some time, but that doesn't mean that they can't wait. Think about it this way, if they can be great in 3-4 years, that would be good enough waiting, I can see them be great again with time for sure.

Chelsea's performance is getting better towards the end of the season, although I also think it will be a big challenge for them to get the title anytime soon, but with time, I believe they will get it because Chelsea have been a great team before. They lost their performance for some time, but I can see that they are gradually building the team back again, and they are coming back with very good performances, so I think we should be expecting something big from them by next season since this season is about to end.
Well, I was going to say never say never when you said that they were never go get or win the title any time soon, as much as I agree with this statement judging solely from Chelsea's current performances, I am of the opinion that things can actually change for them any time even by the coming season, atleast, as an example, no body believed that Arsenal will be performing this good in both last and this seasons of the premier league, but all of a sudden and out of no where, they came up, even when most people least expected it.

I am not a fan of Chelsea but a fan good football in general, and my advice to the hardcore Chelsea fans is that they should not lose hope in their favorite team, Chelsea was once a very great and well respected club, soon enough, even as soon as this coming season, they can regain that status again if they are determined and work hard to proof their determination and dedication to becoming the best again..
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No matter how much you support Arsenal, if you bet your money on this club you will only risk losing money. Indeed, we don't know what will happen in the last match, but I am very sure that Man City will win the league again this season because they failed. in the UCL then you will risk everything in the EPL and will not waste any opportunities, WestHam is not a difficult club for Man City to win the last match, if you show your support for Arsenal by betting on this club be prepared to accept disappointment Grin

Any bet comes with a risk of losing money. But yeah, betting on Arsenal to win the league at this stage means you're most likely to lose.
Then again, the odds of x10.00 are quite attractive to bet some pocket change on it, a small enough amount that you won't feel much difference if it's gone.

Man City is a huge favourite, but, looking from a slightly different angle, and assuming West Ham will care about winning at all (just for the glory), it might not be as easy game as many expect it to bee.
First of all, West Ham know how desperate Man City is for the 3 points, so they'll probably start very defensively and will be focussed on just stealing time. As each passing minute of a goalless game will make the City more stressed and desperate, the risk of them making mistakes or overcommitting to attack will increase, potentially opening situations for counterstrikes for West Ham.

Anyhow, I think the odds for the City to win the game or the league are so low that it's not worth it. From a purely gambling perspective, I think it makes more sense to make a small bet on them not winning. But I wish they succeed, so won't be doing that.
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Chelsea's performance is getting better towards the end of the season, although I also think it will be a big challenge for them to get the title anytime soon, but with time, I believe they will get it because Chelsea have been a great team before. They lost their performance for some time, but I can see that they are gradually building the team back again, and they are coming back with very good performances, so I think we should be expecting something big from them by next season since this season is about to end.
Chelsea have indeed been collecting better result towards the end of the season. This should be a progression that should be continuously improved till next season. They should never have an idea to sack Pochettino who is responsible for this improvements, because another manager has no guarantee to do it better, continuity will have better effect than applying instant upgrade.

Chelsea should not put high target for the manager and the players next season, because this improvement won't work well if the players feel a bigger pressure. Finishing top four position next season should be realistic for how the league has been progressing, Challenging Guardiola's Manchester City is too big to be a target for current Chelsea.
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I do agree that Chelsea has a good potential for the future, with the young players that they have, and definitely lead by Palmer as well, we are going to keep thinking that we are going to do better. That doesn't mean that we are going to see them win the title, of course that is not going to be easy, but we are not going to see anything worse than that.

We should probably consider how to get better with time, and that means that we are going to end up with a result that will not be all that simple. Obviously this is going to take some time, but that doesn't mean that they can't wait. Think about it this way, if they can be great in 3-4 years, that would be good enough waiting, I can see them be great again with time for sure.

Chelsea's performance is getting better towards the end of the season, although I also think it will be a big challenge for them to get the title anytime soon, but with time, I believe they will get it because Chelsea have been a great team before. They lost their performance for some time, but I can see that they are gradually building the team back again, and they are coming back with very good performances, so I think we should be expecting something big from them by next season since this season is about to end.
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Pep Guardiola can go ahead talking and yapping but the officials and VAR has helped them on several occasions this season even when they was wrong. So what's with the delay after the 115 charges against them? Why haven't we seen no point deduction already?

I don't think we are going to see Manchester City getting punished despite having a ton of charges against themselves.  Sad  This is one of the things that I don't like in football.

Big and rich teams are always likely to be favoured. For example you know about Everton right? They got a points deduction by federation decision. But Manchester City still doesn't get anything despite being who knows how many times guiltier than Everton. People are discussing what kind of a punishment they should get, like being demoted to the 2nd league etc.. But I believe none of the things they discuss will come true.
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They don't believe Man City will trip in the final game. Especially knowing West Ham have absolutely at stake here. Win or lose, they will finish in the 9th place.
So if anyone still truly believes that Arsenal can win the league, here's a good time to back it up with a wager. I don't.
A good time to bet if the support is real.

I will go with West Ham to draw in one of my slip and I will play West Ham to win on another slip just to show my support to Arsenal because I don’t want Manchester City to win this League this time.
No matter how much you support Arsenal, if you bet your money on this club you will only risk losing money. Indeed, we don't know what will happen in the last match, but I am very sure that Man City will win the league again this season because they failed. in the UCL then you will risk everything in the EPL and will not waste any opportunities, WestHam is not a difficult club for Man City to win the last match, if you show your support for Arsenal by betting on this club be prepared to accept disappointment Grin

Edit: Today is a witness that Arsenal is again unable to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal does not yet have the mentality of being a club that holds the Premier League title. Grin
Actually Arsenal in PL matches every season is very good but only 1 always fails and this is only in my opinion if Arsenal are actually too ambitious to try to get lucky in the UCL and also want to get the PL title.
Meanwhile, the players and coaches are not quite ready to accept all the risks and have not been able to provide the right strategy to be able to compete for several titles.
Arsenal should realize that Arsenal players are not ready to compete in several competitions and are just trying their best in the UCL but prioritizing the PL title to build the mentality of the players to become champions.
Just look at how Arsenal's improvements can always improve very consistently after failing in the UCL, whereas when they focus on the UCL, Arsenal have not been able to be consistent in PL matches which has resulted in losing a lot of points.
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They must be thankful for Palmer for this whole season. Because he has made the biggest contribution like I said. Guardiola stated before that he tried to stop him from leaving the team but couldn't do it. It is totally normal though. Why would Palmer want to stay there while it is a far possibility for him to play regularly?  Sad

When it comes to Pochettino I really am curious about his future. I think he would be retained. Chelsea have made a great progress and we can see its continuation by next season hopefully. They just need consistency.
Chelsea performance began to improve rapidly towards the end of the season and of course it was quite late for them, Chelsea revival of course cannot be avoided from the large role that Palmer currently has, so far we can see that Chelsea performance is quite bad but despite all that it is actually Palmer is able to continue to highlight his capacity as a striker who is quite sharp in helping Chelsea avoid defeat in a match, when Palmer is absent, such as in the match against Arsenal, we can see that Chelsea seem to have lost their focus in the attack line so that none of Chelsea attackers can make defend themselves arsenal is in trouble.

Apart from Pochettino, of course Chelsea fans should be grateful to Palmer for all his contributions this season, even though previously he continued to be underestimated because he lost the competition at Manchester City, but today we can see how Palmer was able to achieve all the achievements that Hazard has achieved so far at Chelsea, apart from that, I think this season, Palmer really deserves to be Chelsea best player and even the English league.
Talking about Pochettino fate, it seems that now there will be a change in view of his performance by Chelsea management and fans, Pochettino success in bringing Chelsea back to the top 6 of course, this alone allows Chelsea management and fans to have high hopes for him next season.
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Chelsea could still advance to the two finals. It demonstrated that if a club has potential to compete with the big clubs, but it may take more time to develop the squad considering the blues was starting from the bottom. The decision to reverse Chelsea's pre-season strategy has demonstrated the club's consistency in rebuilding itself and as long as chelsea can keep consistently in doing it and i strongly believe they will able to do that to enter the top clubs competition again.
Pochettino needs to maintain the momentum. Chelsea may be able to enter the conference league as a minimum achievement this season. I'm sure they'll start cooking in the upcoming season.
I do agree that Chelsea has a good potential for the future, with the young players that they have, and definitely lead by Palmer as well, we are going to keep thinking that we are going to do better. That doesn't mean that we are going to see them win the title, of course that is not going to be easy, but we are not going to see anything worse than that.

We should probably consider how to get better with time, and that means that we are going to end up with a result that will not be all that simple. Obviously this is going to take some time, but that doesn't mean that they can't wait. Think about it this way, if they can be great in 3-4 years, that would be good enough waiting, I can see them be great again with time for sure.
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Fifth or sixth, Chelsea give hope for next season. Pochettino and all the players must be grateful for Palmer's incredible contribution so far too (22 goals, 10 assists). I'm curious about whether he will get offers this summer and how things will go on after that.

This should be Cole Palmer? Not Mauricio Pochetino, Yes? When they had some of them best players Injured, even when they had Jackson misbehaving with scoring goals, Cole Palmer was there carrying the club on his shoulder and advancing and progressing forward with them. Qualifications for the European Competitions is all they're after, maybe next season they go hard on qualifying for the Champions League Competition.

Yes, I said exactly that. They must be thankful for Palmer for this whole season. Because he has made the biggest contribution like I said. Guardiola stated before that he tried to stop him from leaving the team but couldn't do it. It is totally normal though. Why would Palmer want to stay there while it is a far possibility for him to play regularly?  Sad

When it comes to Pochettino I really am curious about his future. I think he would be retained. Chelsea have made a great progress and we can see its continuation by next season hopefully. They just need consistency.
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Chelsea could still advance to the two finals. It demonstrated that if a club has potential to compete with the big clubs, but it may take more time to develop the squad considering the blues was starting from the bottom. The decision to reverse Chelsea's pre-season strategy has demonstrated the club's consistency in rebuilding itself and as long as chelsea can keep consistently in doing it and i strongly believe they will able to do that to enter the top clubs competition again.
Pochettino needs to maintain the momentum. Chelsea may be able to enter the conference league as a minimum achievement this season. I'm sure they'll start cooking in the upcoming season.

Pochettino has planned some important things for the summer transfer season. I am hoping Chelsea can bring at least one veteran player to the club in order to help him to develop the young player. It would be fantastic if Chelsea could bring Mbappe to the club, but that appears unlikely caused by mbappe has very expensive price at this time.
Being qualified for the conference league or the Europa League is still preferable to not getting anything this season.

Chelsea has tried everything they can to climb back up. Finishing in the top ten is already a good achievement for Chelsea, as opposed to finishing outside of the top ten last season.

Well at this point I think this Chelsea team are now beginning to find their feet and with this performance then I can believe it will really be fierce for rival teams next season. This team just needs to be free from injury at least half of the season and you can expect nothing but at least top 4 finish from this team. Well I think they will be on fire in the pre season and I can’t wait to look forward to that time already because sincerely this team is fire at this point.

 Pochettino needs to keep up with the good maintenance of players relationship as that’s helped him to keep these young players together up till this time.⁠ Talking about additional players, yes I think it’s key to bring in at least one very key striker who is sharp and can score goals coming in from the wings and midfield. The club needs a veteran so fast and yes Mbappe might be too costly and I wouldn’t even advise for Kylian Mbappe yet, rather they can get other strikers who are ready to play and fight.

 ⁠The club will sure be in the Europa League because there are chances they could finish 5th and for 6th the chances is real high and you can be so sure of Man City winning the FA Cup, so it’s a place in Europa which is signals great progress in this Chelsea sqaud and I think this spirit should be kept up by the players whilst the mew season resumes.
 
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This weekend would determine everything in the premier league, but for the winners I think we already know who that would be, man United has lost their position as 6th for good living the spot for either Chelsea or Newcastle, Chelsea is typing the spot with 3 points but it's also possible they lose their match against Bournemouth, right now I expect all the big teams to take home this last match.

Chelsea have won their last 4 games and are on a great streak. They have only lost to Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool in the last period. With their good performance in the last games, they have a chance to finish the season among the top 5 teams. But Tottenham will play their last game against Sheffield United, the last team in the league and they will probably win this game and finish the season in 5th place. Chelsea have had a good run in the last few weeks but it's a bit late. I expect Chelsea to win their last game, but I think the chances of them finishing in 5th place are very slim. Tottenham will beat Sheffield United and finish 5th in the league. Also, I would like to bet on Tottenham vs Sheffield United with both teams scoring goals. Sheffield United usually manage to score goals even if they don't win.
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It is over for Manchester United in the Premier League. The final week matches don't matter for them as they don't have any chance left for top 6.  Sad

However there is still a chance to qualify for the Europa League. But they have to win the FA Cup trophy for that. Does anyone believe in them to do it against Manchester City? To tell the truth, I have near zero faith in them. Because Guardiola is really unstoppable now. I think he will start with winning the Premier League first and then it is going to be the turn of FA Cup.

I'm wondering what Manchester United is planning to do this summer. Will they continue with Erik ten Hag? No matter they do or not, they need to work hard on player signings certainly.
Manchester United's only hope to play in the Europa League is only by winning the FA Cup, but it is not an easy thing for Manchester United to be able to beat Manchester City in the final match later, for now Manchester City, who have lost the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy, naturally do not want to lose the remaining trophies they can achieve,  Manchester City now only need to wait for time and undergo one more game with a victory to win the Premier League trophy, as well as the FA which is still a priority for Guardiola to get after the Premier League trophy has been in hand, this season Manchester United performance is so bad that it is difficult for us to see they can beat Manchester City in the final match later.

Ten Hag future is still a difficult puzzle to solve, because indeed there seems to be no confirmation and certainty from Manchester United's current management, indeed it has been speculated if Manchester United are looking for a new coach next season but so far Ten Hag still has enough confidence to coach Manchester United next season,  It is even reported that Ten Hag already has several names of players that they might prioritise signing next season so I think it is very likely that next season Ten Hag will remain at Old Trafford.

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But IF two clubs had the same number of points and the same goal difference then the team that scored more goals overall would be ranked higher.

So long story short, if Man City were to lose or draw on Sunday and if Arsenal were to win their game, Arsenal would win the league.

source: EPL Handbook pdf page 111
Yes this is absolutely true. I'm also confused when someone says that if two teams have the same points then what counts is the number of goals scored. As far as I know, the second factor is the goal difference. If City draw, whatever the score, then Arsenal will be champions if they win. Because even though they both have 89 points, Arsenal will be superior in terms of goal difference. But I just found out that goals scored are also a consideration. Because as far as I know, if both teams have the same goals and goal difference then the next reference is head-to-head. CMIIW.
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It is over for Manchester United in the Premier League. The final week matches don't matter for them as they don't have any chance left for top 6.  Sad

However there is still a chance to qualify for the Europa League. But they have to win the FA Cup trophy for that. Does anyone believe in them to do it against Manchester City? To tell the truth, I have near zero faith in them. Because Guardiola is really unstoppable now. I think he will start with winning the Premier League first and then it is going to be the turn of FA Cup.

I'm wondering what Manchester United is planning to do this summer. Will they continue with Erik ten Hag? No matter they do or not, they need to work hard on player signings certainly.
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They don't believe Man City will trip in the final game. Especially knowing West Ham have absolutely at stake here. Win or lose, they will finish in the 9th place.
So if anyone still truly believes that Arsenal can win the league, here's a good time to back it up with a wager. I don't.
This is definitely a positive aspect for Manchester City as they will be going up against a relatively less formidable opponent in their last match. If Manchester City's opponent was a strong team in the last match of the Premier League competition, they would have lost the title in the last match. Considering the way they are currently performing and the consistency of their performances, I think Manchester City will win the last Premier League match against West Ham. If Manchester City somehow wins the match against West Ham, Arsenal will have no chance of securing the title this season.

On the other hand, if Manchester City make a mistake, Arsenal will take the chance and take that chance to secure the title this season because Arsenal's next opponent is Everton against whom Arsenal must win in the last match. However, whichever team wins the title, I would definitely be betting on Manchester City in both of these matches, and Arsenal in the other match.
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