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Quote from: Josefjix on August 09, 2024, 10:41:00 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 09, 2024, 05:28:32 AM

It seems like Antony is staying for another season.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1821836796856062288

The words he used are very assertive. He is talking like everything is going to change from now on. I would love to see it. He was playing great at Ajax. But since he signed for the Red Devils, he has been horrible. Sad

He makes 10 million euros a year without showing a good performance to us. Probably this season is going to be his last chance to recover. Otherwise I believe there is no way he is staying. He shouldn't harm the team any longer.

We should watch the different version of the Red Devils next season, it's definitely going to be smooth and also rough for them. Anthony Matheus dos Santos is a key man in his former club but coming to England, a difficult league for him and he's finding the right spot to fit in. Perhaps Erik Ten Hag is doing his best to ensure the Brazilian falls back in the squad, Anthony needs to have improvement in all statistical energy development.

Antony has confirmed that he will stay at Manchester United next season and it seems that many Manchester United fans are not happy with this decision considering his performance and contribution to Manchester United so far, being recruited from Ajax at a high price does not actually make Manchester United get many benefits. from him so far, apart from just being a player who often shows off his passion for spinning balls Grin

, next season will probably be a new season for Anthony to prove his abilities at Manchester United so like it or not he has to work hard to be able to restore his performance to what it was like when he was with Ajax, to be honest, Manchester United in the Ten Hag era has often been in a hurry to recruit and buy players at high prices without prior in-depth analysis before recruiting him, we can see what is happening with Antonny, Maguire and Onana at the moment is the result of such their reckless recruitment

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 09, 2024, 05:28:32 AM

It seems like Antony is staying for another season.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1821836796856062288

The words he used are very assertive. He is talking like everything is going to change from now on. I would love to see it. He was playing great at Ajax. But since he signed for the Red Devils, he has been horrible. Sad

He makes 10 million euros a year without showing a good performance to us. Probably this season is going to be his last chance to recover. Otherwise I believe there is no way he is staying. He shouldn't harm the team any longer.

We should watch the different version of the Red Devils next season, it's definitely going to be smooth and also rough for them. Anthony Matheus dos Santos is a key man in his former club but coming to England, a difficult league for him and he's finding the right spot to fit in. Perhaps Erik Ten Hag is doing his best to ensure the Brazilian falls back in the squad, Anthony needs to have improvement in all statistical energy development.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 09, 2024, 05:28:32 AM

It seems like Antony is staying for another season.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1821836796856062288

The words he used are very assertive. He is talking like everything is going to change from now on. I would love to see it. He was playing great at Ajax. But since he signed for the Red Devils, he has been horrible. Sad

He makes 10 million euros a year without showing a good performance to us. Probably this season is going to be his last chance to recover. Otherwise I believe there is no way he is staying. He shouldn't harm the team any longer.

Ten Hag then Antony, which are bad decisions from Manchester United and I have very little belief on these men. A coach struggles with his ideas for tactics and player choices, a player who has big problems with playing style and efficient of his performances on field. Manchester United are putting belief on these people and they must see very slim chance to succeed.

Decisions if made with Antony, will cost Manchester United money to pay his salary and time to wait for his performance improvement in a next season. They are making big bets on Ten Hag and Antony with high risk of failure.

I will not blame Antony 100% because it all depends on the quality of the coach and Erik Ten Hag is not good at managing players. Look now at the new players who have been brought in, is there anything surprising? nothing, even next season it seems the club's situation will remain stagnant. Erik Ten Hag seems to have a clear vision but that's just nonsense.

On the other hand, Man United situation is not much different from the Blue clown who has accumulated many unclear players, a collection of goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers whose quality is below standard. Cole Palmer will have difficulty getting a suitable partner, Jackson and Nkunku are not the right players. Chelsea management is very bad about player transfers, because all they think about is how to spend a lot of money.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 08, 2024, 02:23:08 PM

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

There is news that Chelsea are interested in signing Osimhen. Previously many said PSG are interested in Osimhen because they have lost Mbappe. But it seems that the price of 100 million euros is very expensive and PSG did not get anything because Mbappe joined Real Madrid on a free transfer. Napoli really want Lukaku and they asked for Osimhen as an exchange option with Lukaku. It seems that Conte has a good relationship with Lukaku.

Quote from: Litzki1990 on August 08, 2024, 10:30:24 PM

Arsenal and Manchester City battled it out until the last match last season and the last match decided Manchester City's Premier League title. Arsenal could not reach their target last season but this season they can reach their target. Arsenal will have to focus on every Premier League match in stages and plan every game before going into the field to get 3 points at any cost.

Arteta has managed to build a solid squad. I think they had no flaws last season. They deserved to be champions. But Arsenal were unlucky to lose some points in important games. IMO they are still the favorites to win the title with last season's squad.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 09, 2024, 05:28:32 AM

It seems like Antony is staying for another season.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1821836796856062288

The words he used are very assertive. He is talking like everything is going to change from now on. I would love to see it. He was playing great at Ajax. But since he signed for the Red Devils, he has been horrible. Sad

He makes 10 million euros a year without showing a good performance to us. Probably this season is going to be his last chance to recover. Otherwise I believe there is no way he is staying. He shouldn't harm the team any longer.

Ten Hag then Antony, which are bad decisions from Manchester United and I have very little belief on these men. A coach struggles with his ideas for tactics and player choices, a player who has big problems with playing style and efficient of his performances on field. Manchester United are putting belief on these people and they must see very slim chance to succeed.

Decisions if made with Antony, will cost Manchester United money to pay his salary and time to wait for his performance improvement in a next season. They are making big bets on Ten Hag and Antony with high risk of failure.

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So far, Arsenal are still showing their sharpness in pre-season matches, including players like Jesus who managed to score goals, but in my opinion, pre-season matches and official matches will be very different so Arsenal cannot expect Jesus to show good perform in next season, to undergo tight competition next season of course Arsenal must bring in a striker who has a sharper goal-scoring instinct, whether it is Osimhen or Gyokeres.
Whoever is the striker recruited by Arsenal next season, of course I hope that this striker will make a big contribution to the game and also the sharpness of Arsenal front line next season to helo arsenal competete with manchester city.
The playing style of each team and a new player will be different, so the coach must be able to make the new players adapt well so that they can blend in with the playing style applied by the team, because after all the players must be able to master the game scheme implemented by the team and not vice versa.

I think the problem is not with the attackers being less productive, but with the game tactics developed by Arteta. I agree that if Arsenal want to bring in a new striker, it would be good to give competition to the existing strikers, but this is not what they need most. Arteta is responsible for the team's playing tactics and with him the player can bring out his best potential. Jesus is still a productive striker in my opinion, but he needs hard work to get back to his best performance.

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker, and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

The interesting part of this conversation is that Arsenal has no plan of buying a new striker. In the last friendly match Arsenal played against they won with score lines 4:1 and Havertz as well as the so-called Arsenal striker Gabriel Jesus scored in the match. The both of them are considered to be Arsenal strikers and if they eventually score in the next match against Lyon the idea of getting a new striker is over. In a press conference, Arteta said that he is satisfied with Jesus as when returned for the new season he saw something different in him and he knew that things have changed, and he expect so much from him this coming season. That was when I knew Arteta is no longer interested in any striker but rather since Thomas Partey is leaving soon there will be a need for a replacement in the midfield and that will happen before the season completely kicks off.

Jesus is good. What I think is that Arteta should change his tactics towards these players, and he will definitely see changes with no doubt. However, in their friendly match, they won 4 goals still, for me to be convinced that if the season starts, they will do well, as we are expecting friendly matches to be different from the main competition.

Jesus should be well prepared because we are going to hire any striker to replace for the fact that he is still good to go. I think Arteta should be the one to make things right now, so I'm expecting Arsenal to have positive changes in the coming season. Arteta said already that the coming season will be different; let's witness that in the next few days.

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It seems like Antony is staying for another season.

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1821836796856062288

The words he used are very assertive. He is talking like everything is going to change from now on. I would love to see it. He was playing great at Ajax. But since he signed for the Red Devils, he has been horrible. Sad

He makes 10 million euros a year without showing a good performance to us. Probably this season is going to be his last chance to recover. Otherwise I believe there is no way he is staying. He shouldn't harm the team any longer.

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Quote from: klidex on August 09, 2024, 01:18:20 AM

Arsenal's performance yesterday against Leverkusen was very impressive they beat the club who were unbeaten last season with a big score of 4:1 I think this is a good start for Arsenal to start the 2024/25 season I believe Mikel Arteta has fixed the club's problems last season and has made improvements especially in their defense which sometimes makes mistakes, they must be able to match the level of Manchester City if they want to continue to compete in the EPL title race.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/bayer-04-leverkusen-arsenal/RsGdb

It's quite surprising that the team that was unbeaten last season was too easy for Arsenal to destroy, Pre-season matches are very difficult to predict, and so that's why I recommend not trying to bet on these matches athough the quality and strength of the teams are different from each other.
Even though this match cannot be a reference for the strength and performance of the two teams, I think both coaches must be able to find weaknesses so they can improve next seasons, especially since both of them fielded the majority of the main players in that match.
Honestly, I think that the current Arsenal squad is quite strong to compete as a title challenger next season, especially with the addition of players like Calafiori and Merino to the squad, but there is still a problem that Arteta should focus on improving, namely the unavailability of a pure striker in their current squad.

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I don’t think Arsenal are ready for the season yet. Whatever is causing delay with signing an attacker and midfielder needs to be wrapped up asap. They hold on to average players and players needing to be sold or released too much thereby hurting their chances of signing level raisers who could have been of tremendous help in their title charge.

There are X factor players out there and they could have been able to get one if they didn’t continually put their money in other areas.

They could easily have gotten a proper CF at last season if they added small money to the money we spent on Kai Havertz.

Osimhen is available now and they first had to splash on a defender. Another £50M added to Calafiori’s money would have been tempting for Napoli. There’s also Sporting Lisbon striker Gyokeres.

Honestly, there have never been a transfer window where there are available strikers in the market, but they always turn their eyes away.

For the case of Napoli and osimien I think arsenal isn't ready to make such bold move because Napoli themselves have been very stubborn in trying to release the striker at an affordable price that would attract buyers. For the case of them trying to get a striker is one left for Mikel arteta to strategies on because the league is just around the corner and I think he might be waiting on last minutes to get an active striker.

I hope that they will be able to make the right decision. Because the delay is definitely causing more and more anxiousness among the fans. I hope whatever they are doing, is based on a plan that they have set.

I am hearing that they are trying to aim for Osimhen. But whoever is going for Osimhen Has to think about the money that they will have to pay for him. And honestly if the money is more than 90 million, it is definitely not going to be worth it in my opinion. And for 90 million Napoli is not going to let Osimhen go as far as I knowa

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Quote from: klidex on August 09, 2024, 01:18:20 AM

Arsenal's performance yesterday against Leverkusen was very impressive they beat the club who were unbeaten last season with a big score of 4:1 I think this is a good start for Arsenal to start the 2024/25 season I believe Mikel Arteta has fixed the club's problems last season and has made improvements especially in their defense which sometimes makes mistakes, they must be able to match the level of Manchester City if they want to continue to compete in the EPL title race.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/bayer-04-leverkusen-arsenal/RsGdb

I was surprised by seeing the way Arsenal was playing against Leverkusen like the match was a real game, arsenal is very serious in the game, and Arsenal wanted to show Leverkusen that even if Leverkusen was an unbeaten team last season they would beat them, I was surprised by the way arsenal is scoring goals like a machine, well that is a friendly game but I’m sure that even if it is a real game arsenal will still beat Leverkusen Because is very strong than Leverkusen in any way and even the style of playing you will know that arsenal can beat Leverkusen, well that’s not the main issue because I think even if arsenal score 10 goals it’s nothing.

The main issue is that can Arsenal be able to play like this when the league starts? I’m not worried about any other team than Arsenal in this premier league, arsenal is the only team that people will be talking about their good performance and at the end of the season they will not be able to win a single trophy, I pray Arsenal should be able to play the way they play against Leverkusen and fight against Manchester City to win a trophy this season because Manchester City is their biggest problem in the premier league.

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Quote from: Josefjix on August 09, 2024, 12:38:02 AM

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Arsenal and Manchester City battled it out until the last match last season and the last match decided Manchester City's Premier League title. Arsenal could not reach their target last season but this season they can reach their target. Arsenal will have to focus on every Premier League match in stages and plan every game before going into the field to get 3 points at any cost.

Last season we saw Arsenal drop points in some easy games early and midway through the season which may have pushed them away from winning the title. Arsenal can't do that at all this season, they have to play serious from the start and they can't drop points in any match. Manchester City may not be able to win the Premier League title this season, Arsenal will have a great chance.

The way Arsenal have improved their performance this season, if they can improve their performance a little bit compared to last season, Arsenal's dream of winning the title in the Premier League will definitely become a big possibility.

Last season was previously one of the most competitive one for Gunners but they've failed countless times to win the English Premier League title and watching Manchester City overcoming them and surpassing them on the EPL table is not funny. Pep Guardiola taught Mikel Arteta and he's fully incharge but I can say that for next season which other elite clubs are trying so hard to put themselves back to formidable form. Arsenal can reach their peak next season, and Mikel Arteta will reinforce his squad to be epic forwarding their outstanding performance.

Manchester City is a world class team. They’ve been on top for many seasons now. They have not regressed from last season (squad wise). Arsenal have not improved from last season (squad wise). There are other external factors like change in management and squad in the teams that gave Arsenal maximum points last season. Manchester City still want to win the EPL title this season and I predict them for the title based on,
1. Experience
2. Squad's quality, balance & dynamics.
3. Being an advanced version of the software that they’ve deployed( photocopy can't surpass its original).

Arteta have a lot to learn before he can beat Pep Guardiola to the EPL title. I know he’s preparing his team this season to challenge with everything so as to win the title.

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Quote from: Josefjix on August 09, 2024, 12:38:02 AM

Quote from: Litzki1990 on August 08, 2024, 10:30:24 PM

Arsenal and Manchester City battled it out until the last match last season and the last match decided Manchester City's Premier League title. Arsenal could not reach their target last season but this season they can reach their target. Arsenal will have to focus on every Premier League match in stages and plan every game before going into the field to get 3 points at any cost.

Last season we saw Arsenal drop points in some easy games early and midway through the season which may have pushed them away from winning the title. Arsenal can't do that at all this season, they have to play serious from the start and they can't drop points in any match. Manchester City may not be able to win the Premier League title this season, Arsenal will have a great chance.

The way Arsenal have improved their performance this season, if they can improve their performance a little bit compared to last season, Arsenal's dream of winning the title in the Premier League will definitely become a big possibility.

Last season was previously one of the most competitive one for Gunners but they've failed countless times to win the English Premier League title and watching Manchester City overcoming them and surpassing them on the EPL table is not funny. Pep Guardiola taught Mikel Arteta and he's fully incharge but I can say that for next season which other elite clubs are trying so hard to put themselves back to formidable form. Arsenal can reach their peak next season, and Mikel Arteta will reinforce his squad to be epic forwarding their outstanding performance.

Do you really think so? That arsenal can claim the English premier league title this season? No, I don't think so, because if you have a close look at this arsenal team, you are going to observe that their major downfall in the past two seasons is that they are not consistent enough to win the league, especially towards the end of the season, which they knows very well that being consistent at the closing stage of the season is very much important if they want to stand a chance of lifting the English premier league, but in their own case, they will choose to lose form by being inconsistent when it really matters.

And another thing that to me is the brain behind them not being able to win the premier league title recently is that they don't have a quality goal poacher that can guarantee them like 20 goals plus a season, and if you look at those teams that usually won the premier league of recent, they always have an attacker that will deliver the least 20 goals a season, so till arsenal fix that, I don't think they are going to win the premier league anytime soon.

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Arsenal's performance yesterday against Leverkusen was very impressive they beat the club who were unbeaten last season with a big score of 4:1 I think this is a good start for Arsenal to start the 2024/25 season I believe Mikel Arteta has fixed the club's problems last season and has made improvements especially in their defense which sometimes makes mistakes, they must be able to match the level of Manchester City if they want to continue to compete in the EPL title race.

Source : https://www.sofascore.com/id/football/match/bayer-04-leverkusen-arsenal/RsGdb

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on August 08, 2024, 10:30:24 PM

Arsenal and Manchester City battled it out until the last match last season and the last match decided Manchester City's Premier League title. Arsenal could not reach their target last season but this season they can reach their target. Arsenal will have to focus on every Premier League match in stages and plan every game before going into the field to get 3 points at any cost.

Last season we saw Arsenal drop points in some easy games early and midway through the season which may have pushed them away from winning the title. Arsenal can't do that at all this season, they have to play serious from the start and they can't drop points in any match. Manchester City may not be able to win the Premier League title this season, Arsenal will have a great chance.

The way Arsenal have improved their performance this season, if they can improve their performance a little bit compared to last season, Arsenal's dream of winning the title in the Premier League will definitely become a big possibility.

Last season was previously one of the most competitive one for Gunners but they've failed countless times to win the English Premier League title and watching Manchester City overcoming them and surpassing them on the EPL table is not funny. Pep Guardiola taught Mikel Arteta and he's fully incharge but I can say that for next season which other elite clubs are trying so hard to put themselves back to formidable form. Arsenal can reach their peak next season, and Mikel Arteta will reinforce his squad to be epic forwarding their outstanding performance.

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I would prefer Arsenal to sign Viktor Gyökeres over Osimhen because our(Arsenal) style of football will not be comfortable for Vitor Osimhen because he is not used to possession football.

Arsenal are trying to satisfy their fans because many of us have been complaining about a reliable striker and the lack of a reliable striker is the main reason we failed to win the League in the last two seasons if not we had a wonderful season.

All players looks very sharp and well prepared as we have seen in their display in our third club friendly match against the Bundesliga's defensive champion Bayern Leverkusen. The match was an interesting one to see, a great display from the players and the must amazing thing in today's match was the warm welcome for the Arsenal former midfielder Granit Xhaka.

Arsenal looks very sharp, and you are right. Osimhen is not the type of player we need in Arsenal because the way he plays and the kind of method he gets used to is something different from what we used in Arsenal. However, I'm expecting to be at the top and even get a trophy in the coming season that will start in the next few days because what they displayed against the Bayern Bundesliga today makes me believe that Arsenal is fully ready for incoming season competition. Looking forward to seeing them at the top of the table

Arsenal last season was able to provide very tight resistance to Manchester City and even the competition to win the championship trophy lasted until the end of the season so it shows the many improvements that have occurred at Arsenal in this last season, but even so, Arsenal still has quite visible shortcomings, namely a lack of sharpness. the strikers they have, currently Arsenal have been linked with several strikers but so far there has been no movement made by Arsenal to recruit them, I personally agree with all of you that Gyokeres is a more suitable player for Arsenal to recruit in terms of his style of play compared to Osimhen who is often Just as a target man on the front line, Gyokeres is a striker who is considered an explorer because of his penchant for finding and picking up the ball from midfield and is different from Osimhen who often prefers to waiting the ball in pinalti box, so I also think that Gyokeres will be better able to adapt to the scheme. Arsenal game has often which built attacks from the bottom line so far.

Arsenal and Manchester City battled it out until the last match last season and the last match decided Manchester City's Premier League title. Arsenal could not reach their target last season but this season they can reach their target. Arsenal will have to focus on every Premier League match in stages and plan every game before going into the field to get 3 points at any cost.

Last season we saw Arsenal drop points in some easy games early and midway through the season which may have pushed them away from winning the title. Arsenal can't do that at all this season, they have to play serious from the start and they can't drop points in any match. Manchester City may not be able to win the Premier League title this season, Arsenal will have a great chance.

The way Arsenal have improved their performance this season, if they can improve their performance a little bit compared to last season, Arsenal's dream of winning the title in the Premier League will definitely become a big possibility.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on August 08, 2024, 01:47:46 PM

Osimhen is not bad for a center forward, especially if Arteta really needs a target man in his squad. Arteta probably learned a lot from Manchester City where Pep Guardiola really made Haaland a hugely successful target man. Haaland contributed a lot of goals and has been the Premier League's top scorer in the last two seasons, so a change in game scheme is not always considered a bad thing.

Imagine if Osimhen really came to Arsenal and became a productive striker there from the first season, wouldn't that make the top scorer competition even better? I expect that from Arsenal, but in no way do I mean to belittle any of the players the management is trying to bring in.

I have said this before that o find it surprising that with the way things are aren’t going smoothly for Osimhen and Napoli that both Arsenal or Chelsea aren’t taking Advantage of the situation. Let’s leave away the whole of last season where we all know that Victor Osimhen would have done better but due to some crisis like the injury setbacks and also him been absent with his nation for the African Cup of nations we all know how many goals he would have racked up but yet he still went on to get 16.

Arsenal should Be in this race although it will definitely be a hard one to win for them but they should have been the first team to actually show interest on him but every club is looking at how complicated his transfer will be, it will be a huge gamble to meet to Napoli demands of €100m plus and with the club not looking for a loan it will be difficult for the deal to happen big Atleast Arsenal should be in this race.

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So far, Arsenal are still showing their sharpness in pre-season matches, including players like Jesus who managed to score goals, but in my opinion, pre-season matches and official matches will be very different so Arsenal cannot expect Jesus to show good perform in next season, to undergo tight competition next season of course Arsenal must bring in a striker who has a sharper goal-scoring instinct, whether it is Osimhen or Gyokeres.
Whoever is the striker recruited by Arsenal next season, of course I hope that this striker will make a big contribution to the game and also the sharpness of Arsenal front line next season to helo arsenal competete with manchester city.
The playing style of each team and a new player will be different, so the coach must be able to make the new players adapt well so that they can blend in with the playing style applied by the team, because after all the players must be able to master the game scheme implemented by the team and not vice versa.

I think the problem is not with the attackers being less productive, but with the game tactics developed by Arteta. I agree that if Arsenal want to bring in a new striker, it would be good to give competition to the existing strikers, but this is not what they need most. Arteta is responsible for the team's playing tactics and with him the player can bring out his best potential. Jesus is still a productive striker in my opinion, but he needs hard work to get back to his best performance.

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

The interesting part of this conversation is that Arsenal has no plan of buying a new striker. In the last friendly match Arsenal played against they won with score lines 4:1 and Havertz as well as the so-called Arsenal striker Gabriel Jesus scored in the match. The both of them are considered to be Arsenal strikers and if they eventually score in the next match against Lyon the idea of getting a new striker is over. In a press conference, Arteta said that he is satisfied with Jesus as when returned for the new season he saw something different in him and he knew that things have changed, and he expect so much from him this coming season. That was when I knew Arteta is no longer interested in any striker but rather since Thomas Partey is leaving soon there will be a need for a replacement in the midfield and that will happen before the season completely kicks off.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on August 08, 2024, 05:01:11 PM

Exactly, this is one of the reasons that makes sense.
In addition, if we look at their performance statistics in 2023/2024, Viktor Gyökeres has better data on his contribution and performance.

Check the statistical image taken from this site:

Source: Viktor Gyökeres vs. Victor Osimhen

with this data, the MP of both is quite far, as well as the number of goals and assists. Viktor Gyökeres is superior, yes because last season, Osimhen at Napoli was not as good as the previous season.

In addition, the fee for Osimhen is also very high, compared to Viktor Gyökeres which is only around € 65.00m for its market value.

You can see from the image you presented, Viktor Gyökeres have good goal contributions than Osimhen. Even though Osimhen played less games, but if you take the ratio of the games and the goal scored and assists made, it is an attractive point for any team to be convinced with him.

To me, Osimhen is been hyped above expectations, he is good, but sometimes he is not completely active when he is in front of goals, he make pockets of errors and don’t have the perfect finishing strikers like Haaland, Drogba and others have; but there is no doubt, he is strong and have good night to be a good striker.

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1. Viktor Gyökeres vs Osimhen (striker)
There is still no clear certainty even though Arsenal is currently quite pressed for it. Between Viktor Gyökeres or Osimhen? What do you think?

I would prefer Arsenal to sign Viktor Gyökeres over Osimhen because our(Arsenal) style of football will not be comfortable for Vitor Osimhen because he is not used to possession football.

Exactly, this is one of the reasons that makes sense.
In addition, if we look at their performance statistics in 2023/2024, Viktor Gyökeres has better data on his contribution and performance.

Check the statistical image taken from this site:

Source: Viktor Gyökeres vs. Victor Osimhen

with this data, the MP of both is quite far, as well as the number of goals and assists. Viktor Gyökeres is superior, yes because last season, Osimhen at Napoli was not as good as the previous season.

In addition, the fee for Osimhen is also very high, compared to Viktor Gyökeres which is only around € 65.00m for its market value.

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I think the problem is not with the attackers being less productive, but with the game tactics developed by Arteta. I agree that if Arsenal want to bring in a new striker, it would be good to give competition to the existing strikers, but this is not what they need most. Arteta is responsible for the team's playing tactics and with him the player can bring out his best potential. Jesus is still a productive striker in my opinion, but he needs hard work to get back to his best performance.

Instead of going to Arsenal, I think Osimhen is more likely to be suited to Chelsea's style of play. Chelsea are reportedly interested in Osimhen as it sounds, but I'm not sure which team will get his signature. Osimhen is a prolific striker and he is really good to rely on, but Arsenal's style of play doesn't suit him if Arteta doesn't change his game tactics.

Sometimes I don't really know the actual problem of Arsenal because they look good, but anytime they have a match, things turn around, although the coach is really supposed to find out the main problem of this squad because this coming season is going to be different and we are looking at Arsenal at the top of the table, so Arteta needs to strengthen the squad more than before. Arsenal players are all good, so I think Arteta needs to change his tactics or introduce them to another method that can make this squad look greater.

For Osimhen, I think his coming to Arsenal will make Arteta make another arrangement again, which is introducing new tactics that will suit Osimhen, and we don't really need that now, which I think is already late because other players will still have to use it first before their performance comes normal and this season is about to start already.

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