Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 216. (Read 59039 times)

I really feel pity for Liverpool tonight, not that they lost the match but at least they deserved a win as they played so well and were leading comfortably before, should I say, bad luck struck and spoilt everything for them and leaving them with only a draw. Actually many people did not expect them to win Aston Villa without a huge stress. It was Aston V that scattered Arsenal's dream of winning the league so they are not a walk-over. Indeed we watched a beautiful football tonight.

Tomorrow is the day the Premier League title will pretty much be decided. If Man City wins against Tottenham in London, they'd almost certainly win the league, but if there's a draw or if Tottenham wins, Arsenal would likely be crowned the champions.
Simply, apart from tomorrow's game, both Man City and Arsenal have only relatively easy games at home, against West Ham and Everton respectively, none of whom have any strong motivation to win.

Odds for tomorrow are:
Tottenham: x7.20
Draw: x5.70
Man City: 1.38

Odds for winning the league:
Man City: 1.36
Arsenal: 3.20

Liverpool already made too many mistakes, they missed many points. I don't know what's happening with Liverpool and Klopp. I think they may have an internal problem, the players have no good relationships among them. And they also feel worried with the future of Liverpool because they know Klopp will leave Liverpool. Well, they lose the chances to win the trophy. True, they gave up too early!!

They also made a mistake in the match against Aston Villa today. In the middle of the match, they are leading with 2 goals but they are too easy conceded goals when the match is almost over. 2 goals made by Jhon Duran in minute 85' and 88' ruins the leading of Liverpool, they end up the match with the same goals. Liverpool failed to win, they only got a draw result. I think it is because Liverpool didn't play aggressively until the end of the match.

Well, Klopp seems not only have a problem with Salah. He also has a problem with other players in Liverpool. It is sad to see the bad end of Klopp in Liverpool. 

Liverpool are currently winning Aston villa 3-1. this victory will certainly Push Tottenham to at least get a win against Manchester city so they could get close to the top four, if Tottenham eventually win Manchester city which is highly unlikely, they will be behind Aston villa with just one point with two games remaining. More so, if Tottenham succeed in winning those remaining two games, it will definitely land them a place in the top four at the end of the season, else Aston villa will be maintain that fourth position. So the game between Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City is more like a war of attrition, as both teams will seriously be at loggerahead with each other.

Arsenal is doing great, they have gathered a lot of points as well, amazing run so far but the fact is that City is so great that they end up still not doing all that great, which is why I think it is quite obvious that we are going to get this type of results in the end, it is not going to be all that complicated in the end.

This is why I believe that we should consider how Arsenal is getting a second place as a good victory for them, not a bad deal and should be considered as a good result for them. Sure they would want to be the champions, but they should not be sad to miss that championship, they should be happy. City is just an another level team, and they are just getting this much points because they are always good.

The same Tottenham that Arsenal beat to 3 goals to 1 or there is another Tottenham in another place? The same Tottenham that had 4 losses in a row and had 1 win against Burnley a relegation team is what you guys think will teach Manchester City a lesson? A team that has not lose match as of recent and want to win the Premier League, if this is not capping then I think you are fan of Tottenham and you are only trying to defend them.


There is nothing wrong for hope but what matters is the outcome, the zeal that Manchester City is having to win the Premier League is morr than Tottenham dream to play in the Champions League. Forget that Aston villa is losing tonight to Liverpool, that was expected but it doesn't in any way makes Tottenham beat Manchester City, it's their home match but their is nothing going to be special about that match.

Doesn't it feel like Liverpool have started to play more comfortably after losing their chance for the PL title?    It really feels like that for me honestly.

While they were in the title race they were making more mistakes. They lost points in really unbelievable matches and gave up on the league too early. Now we see that Liverpool are beating one of the toughest teams this season. This shouldn't have been the way for Klopp to say goodbye but there is nothing to do.    There was some tension between him and Salah recently too so I wonder if they have worked it out.

The highly anticipated Premier League match between Manchester United and Arsenal ended in disappointment for the home side at Old Trafford. A tense affair from the start, both teams struggled to create clear-cut chances in a cagey first half. The stalemate was finally broken  Leandro Trossard scored a simple tap-in in the 20th minute for the game's only goal . Manchester United tried in vain to get back into the game, but Arsenal's defense held firm. As the minutes ticked by, United resorted to long balls and crosses into the box, but Arsenal dealt with the aerial threat.  Arsenal celebrated a hard-fought 1-0 victory, made sweeter by winning at their rival's home ground.

It's halftime at the Villa park. Liverpool got lucky in the first 1 minute to take the lead via a Martinez mistake. Despite the equalizer from Tielemans shortly, Liverpool got in front again from a Gakpo goal. Even though Liverpool is barely fighting for anything (can't go up or down at this point) other than to finish Klopp's last away game strongly, I've enjoy the game so far since it's been competitive as Villa needs a win to cement their UCL slot for next season.

And even more surprising, Joe Gomez gave the assist for Liverpool's second goal. I'm still looking forward to the day he'd get the first goal of his club career probably still in a Liverpool's jersey 

Second half soon.

Yes is not yet over for Arsenal despite their wining against Manchester united yesterday I think they are still going to wait for the out come of the two remaining matches of Man City, and Arsenal are still going to play with Everton on the last day of England premier league, however I think is going to be a must win for arsenal because Everton are not too good at away.

Tottenham will be one of the toughest opponents for Manchester city in rest match, currently Tottenham has a very big ambition to be able to play in the Champions League next season, currently Tottenham Hotspur still has a big chance of being able to shift Aston Villa's position in the top 4 at the moment. So of course they will try to win against Manchester City, but still expecting Manchester City to draw let alone lose is of course a difficult thing because Manchester City performance is currently in pretty good form, especially after Manchester City was knocked out of the Champions League, of course they will focus their attention on the English League trophy this season.

 However, I think Arsenal shouldn't have too much hope that Tottenham will be able to beat Manchester City in that the match, because as we know so far, the rivalry that has occurred between Arsenal and Tottenham has been more in terms of prestige, so far the rivalry that has occurred between Tottenham and Arsenal Of course it is possible that make tottenham will not try seriously to achieve victory in order to maintain their prestige and also the feelings of their fans if Arsenal can win the English League this season.

The match is the last hope of Arsenal for Manchester City to drop points. It's a reasonable hope, because Tottenham have a good record against Manchester City in last few seasons. Tottenham have the importance to win the match, because they still want to keep their chance to play in Champions League next season. It's certainly a deciding game where the win of Manchester City will closing them to the title.

Both of the teams are under pressure to win, Manchester City have experiences in handling this kind of pressure, while Tottenham couldn't play their best performance when they play a crucial game. Aston Villa have a chance to drop points again as they have to face Liverpool tonight. If Aston Villa win, Tottenham's chance to play in Champions League next season will finally be over.

 

You echoed my mind, Manchester United where just unlucky in terms of their inability to score, if not ordinarily Manchester United forced arsenal backwards with the way they played. No doubt about the fact that Arsenal missed a lot of chance, so did Manchester United. The goal difference was a dangerous one for arsenal because if United where able to score just one, that would have been the end of the season for the gunners in terms of the title race.
This season is a bit competitive compared to last season, but we are almost in similar situation as last season too, where Arsenal had to relinquish powers to Manchester City, and for what is worth, it's looking like history wants to repeat itself.

This match will likely determine many things but it still depends on how the match will end. If Man City wins that match, they will likely emerge as Premier League champions this season because it looks like Man City will also get a win in their last match against West Ham. If the match ends in a draw, then the Premier League champion will most likely be determined by the Goal Difference between Man City and Arsenal. However, if it turns out that Tottenham can make a surprise and win the match, then Arsenal is the one who has a big chance of getting the Premier League trophy.

Tottenham actually still has a small chance of snatching 4th place from Aston Villa but for that, they have to hope that Aston Villa will lose their last 2 matches, while Tottenham must be able to sweep 2 wins. This is like a scenario that is waiting for a miracle to happen but as long as the season hasn't actually ended, surprises could happen.

The Manchester United goalkeeper performed well by saving several good chances created by Martinelli and other Arsenal players.
It is true that goal difference is very important if Arsenal and Manchester City have the same number of points after the Tottenham vs Manchester City match. If in that match Manchester City was held to a draw by Tottenham, perhaps Arsenal would benefit from the number of goals they conceded (89-28) which was relatively less than the number conceded by Manchester City (91-33).

They would have but Manchester United did not give them the privilege to score more than one goal and it was not an easy drive for them. Arsenal missed a lot of opportunities yesterday their attacks were weak and I was surprised those kinds of attacks were coming from Arsenal. Yeah,  the goal difference would have given them a good advantage against us but since it did not turn out that way, arsenal is not interested in the title because I know it is going to be a good game for us against Tottenham. For now, Arsenal is still leading with a goal difference of two, It is a strong competition between the two, and we are going to miss football season. Even though last season was not as interesting as this, from the beginning, clubs were already on fire, and when they were in the middle, the whole game changed and it was a rapid flip that happened.

In last night's match between Man United and Arsenal there weren't many goals scored, the only goal was scored by Arsenal early in the first half until the end of the half Man United were not able to equalize, if you say that MU did a good job in my opinion No, he was unable to make it difficult for Arsenal to win and Arsenal themselves scored a goal to bring them victory to continue to pressure Man City at the top of the standings.

I thought MU would be the stumbling block for Arsenal in last night's match but apparently MU still couldn't do much. I have to admit that Arsenal's performance was still quite good against a top club like MU even though they only scored 1 goal. At least they were able to keep their defense strong enough and not give up opportunity for MU to score a goal.

Arsenal can now only hope that Tottenham can hold off Manchester City, at least a draw and that makes Arsenal's chances of winning the Premier League title this season very wide open, but if not then there is no longer a big possibility for Arsenal because in the remaining matches Manchester City only Tottenham are a tough opponent.

Arsenal's 1 goal win against Manchester United is enough, I think, because even though Manchester United is one of the top teams in the Premier League, it won't be easy for Arsenal to win with a big score, despite the many opportunities that Arsenal players failed to take advantage of, but Manchester United provided There was fierce resistance in this match, but Arsenal's defense played quite solidly in this match so that the Manchester United players had difficulty creating opportunities.

City's match against tottenham hotspur tomorrow is very critical. Both they will play away and if aston villa lose points against liverpool fc tonight, there will be a possibility for tottenham to get a champions league ticket. So there is a possibility that they will hang on to the match against city and at least get points and keep arsenal in the lead without a match surplus. If city does not lose points tomorrow, the last week at home, the west ham united will never stop this team. So despite being the leader, arsenal's job is still very difficult. The championship path will be shaped according to the results of 3-4 different matches, not just their own matches.

As long as the season is not over of course both teams still have the same chance to win the championship trophy, indeed in this case Manchester City benefits from the remaining matches they have but as you said of course all possibilities can happen later, at this time Arsenal fate of course depends on the draw, winning or losing Manchester City in the remaining two matches,  But despite all that, Arsenal should still be able to win their last game later with a big score, if Manchester City wins the remaining two games, of course Arsenal hopes of winning the Premier League this season have vanished, if Manchester City draws then Arsenal must have a better points difference later, if Manchester City loses,  the champion will automatically belong to Arsenal, in addition to the difference in points, Arsenal also lost in terms of goal difference so it does not hurt for Arsenal to look for a big win in the match against Everton later in anticipation if Arsenal and Manchester City end the season with the same points.

Manchester City match against Westham is certainly a match of hope for Arsenal although it is unlikely that Westham will win but at least maybe a draw will be able to happen, for the match against Tottenham of course Arsenal does not need to expect much, because the rivalry that has occurred between Arsenal and Tottenham so far certainly allows Tottenham not to want to win in the match.