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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 19, 2025, 12:49:02 PM

Nothing changed for Manchester United. They are still in their worst shape. They didn't improve anything since the Southampton game. Just like I said, Brighton didn't have mercy on them. Everton surprised me a lot. Because they got 3-0 ahead in the first half already. Moyes effect was real.

Tottenham tried to come back but all they were able to do was to make it 3-2. Only one point collected in their last 6 league games... Ange Postecoglou had better get ready to be sacked. I would absolutely do so if I were the chairman.

I got to watch the game today, I mean highlights of the game. First goal was caused by Leny Yoro overlapping into midfield to play, I think that was instructed by the manager and it lead to him covering and tracking back quick. I don't think I'm comfortable with Harry Maguire, too many touches on the ball and his dull thinking, observation and reactions. The management should do well to sell so they can buy. You can't complain about a manager using water gun for world war three and expects him to win. Tottenham Hotspur should part ways with Daniel Levy, that's all I want to see them do honestly.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 19, 2025, 12:09:16 PM

Congrats to Everton. They successfully beat Tottenham and get three points. A bit surprised with their 3 goals lead during the first half. I thought they would be struggled, but performed beyond my prediction. They showed solid offence, and managed break through Tottenham's defensive line.

The second half is very different caused by Totteham did minor change, but impacted their performance a lot. So many pressures were coming to the Everton, but they able to keep the score 3:2.

What a game!!! Finally, they're far away from relegation zone.

I didn't expect a team like Everton to get a 3 goals lead against Spurs. Everton plays a good low block football, but get 3 goals in a first half shows how poor Spurs were. I'm not sure of what's wrong with spurs, considering the fact that they always lose to teams that they ought to defeat, and defeat teams that they ought to lose to. But while the game was still on, I told a friend of mine that Spurs will definitely score, which they did, but just couldn't level the game as Everton ended up taking all 3 points. Everton's next game will be against Brighton, which is a very big test for the new manager.

And as for other games today, Manchester united are still very much underperforming. Their only shot on target was the penalty that was scored by Bruno, which showed how poor they were. Amorim still has a lot to do in this team, because if they continue like this, making the top 10 spot might be as difficult as winning the title for them.

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M.United and Tottenham lost tonight. Both teams continue their bad run. They are at the bottom of the league.

M.City showed the nation an enjoyable and goal-rich match tonight.
They beat Ipswich Town 6-0 and I think they relaxed as a team. This win boosted their morale for the match they will play in the Champions League.

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Liverpool once again showed their class by grabbing a crucial win over Brentford, while in another match, Aston Villa managed to force Arsenal to a draw at the Emirates Stadium. This draw makes Arsenal lose momentum in the hunt for important points, their inability to maintain the lead gives an advantage to Liverpool.
Now the team coached by Arne Slot is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with 50 points, Arsenal struggle is getting harder after falling behind 6 points from Liverpool.

Without Darwin Nunez 2 goals Liverpool might have lost points, 90 minutes everyone has done everything and finally the extra time is the answer. The entry of Nunez clearly provides an advantage because most of the Brentford players are focused on Mo Salah. 37 attempts of shots launched by Liverpool but only need 3 minutes to finish it.

It was really a big surprise that Liverpool won that match because a lot of people had already given up that it was going to end in a draw. Brentford on their own were a little relaxed too thinking they were able to get a point from the league leaders. Just that Nunez changed everything at the dying minutes, it was too emotional for Liverpool seeing that all hope was not lost and they came back to their winning. Sincerely, had the match ended in a draw, that would have been two consecutive draws for Liverpool, something that would have damage their psychology so much. The drew Nottingham Forest in their last match so they needed to win Brentford luckily for them, they got the winning.

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Quote from: Palakka on January 19, 2025, 01:33:13 PM

The victory over Brentford and also the draw obtained by Arsenal in other matches has make Liverpool position while curently at the top of the English league standings very strong with 50 points, so far Liverpool has shown extraordinary consistency in the EPL and even in the UCL, with the depth of the squad that is actually limited, but they managed to show a strong mentality with the support of smart tactics from Arne Slot, But as I said above, all possibilities can still happen with a long season journey, meaning there will be many factors and challenges that could affect their performance, including player injuries and also a busy schedule, especially now they must play in the UCL, FA and also the Carabao cup, which will interfere with the focus and also drain the stamina from their players.

one player injury for Liverpool might be overcome and play just to avoid defeat and maintain their position. but if there is an injury problem involving 2 or more players, and the player is the most reliable, of course, the situation can be very bad for Liverpool.
so far Slot has given a good and consistent game to Liverpool. hopefully, their players avoid losses this season and can get some good results at the end of the season. Slot showed extraordinary quality, he deserves praise from anyone.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 19, 2025, 05:12:48 AM

Today the fixtures are like below.

- Everton - Tottenham : Double chance on Everton @1.47
- Manchester United - Brighton : BTTS @1.62
- Nottingham Forest - Southampton : Nottingham win @1.41
- Ipswich - Manchester City : Manchester City win @1.41

My options are like this but I'm not sure about betting on all of them though.

All of your above predictions played out eventually. The results were as follows;

Everton 3:2 Tottenham
The double chance 1x and goal market over 4.5 both played.
Manchester United 1:3 Brighton
The Both team score and over 3.5 market played.
Nottingham Forest 3:2 Southampton
The win 1 and goal market over 4.5 market
Ipswich 0:6 Manchester City
The win 2 and over 5.5 market all played

So it would been a won bet. Even a selective option would have still been a won bet.

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Quote from: mamesso on January 19, 2025, 07:45:31 AM

Liverpool once again showed their class by grabbing a crucial win over Brentford, while in another match, Aston Villa managed to force Arsenal to a draw at the Emirates Stadium. This draw makes Arsenal lose momentum in the hunt for important points, their inability to maintain the lead gives an advantage to Liverpool.
Now the team coached by Arne Slot is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with 50 points, Arsenal struggle is getting harder after falling behind 6 points from Liverpool.

Without Darwin Nunez 2 goals Liverpool might have lost points, 90 minutes everyone has done everything and finally the extra time is the answer. The entry of Nunez clearly provides an advantage because most of the Brentford players are focused on Mo Salah. 37 attempts of shots launched by Liverpool but only need 3 minutes to finish it.

We saw a couple of saves from Alisson. Brentford made some nice attacks too. I love the overall composure of Liverpool their counter attack was professional especially in the way they communicated with the ball in their opponents box. Nunez was the right substitute for the game as his presence converted their chances to goal.

Arne Slot indeed is increasingly dominating, and holding on to the top position, currently they are 6 points ahead of Arsenal and still have one outstanding match to play to meet up with week 22 which will be against Ipswich Town who just lost 6 goals to Manchester city. And after Liverpool are done playing Ipswich Town on the 25th they should be 9 points ahead of Arsenal.

I think Arne Slot deserves some accolades at this point even though the season has not ended yet but for fact that he took charge of Liverpool this season from Eredivisie side Feyenoord and after Jurgen Klopp's departure from the Liverpool at the end of last season, and since the beginning of the season his team has maintained consistency with their form and results under his management and not minding the fact he's new to the club and the league

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Quote from: tusandii on January 16, 2025, 09:24:10 PM

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Quote from: Palakka on January 15, 2025, 12:10:07 PM

Nottingham forest is the most difficult opponent faced by Liverpool this season, not only because of yesterday's draw, but precisely in the first meeting of the two teams this season, they also got their first defeat from Nottingham and that it was the only defeat obtained by Liverpool so far in the English league.
Manchester city, still extending their negative trend this season although in their last 3 matches they were able to win, their poor consistency and defence has made them slump and out of the championship path, the league journey is still long, although Liverpool is quite comfortable at the top of the standings but I think all possibilities can still happen later.

For me, the PL has clearly opened up a lot, and there is a clear winner, which is Liverpool, the team that I thought would continue to compete but whose effectiveness has decreased a little has been Arsenal, however, now another team that almost no one names but that is playing a role that I no longer understand is MU, until now they have not been able to have good consistency and this delays everything, for me one of the things they should do is change their mentality, the coach has already implemented his strategy and it seems that he is not going to change it, so this is complicated, and City is doing very badly.

Liverpool does look consistent and strong this season but because the Premier League journey is still very long so it is still uncertain about the EPL champion and there are still possibilities that can happen whether Liverpool experiences a setback or something else, but if the EPL journey is almost over and Liverpool is ahead by many points from the team below it, it can be said that Liverpool will win the title this season. The EPL competition is still very tight and Liverpool's points difference cannot be said to be safe.

The victory over Brentford and also the draw obtained by Arsenal in other matches has make Liverpool position while curently at the top of the English league standings very strong with 50 points, so far Liverpool has shown extraordinary consistency in the EPL and even in the UCL, with the depth of the squad that is actually limited, but they managed to show a strong mentality with the support of smart tactics from Arne Slot, But as I said above, all possibilities can still happen with a long season journey, meaning there will be many factors and challenges that could affect their performance, including player injuries and also a busy schedule, especially now they must play in the UCL, FA and also the Carabao cup, which will interfere with the focus and also drain the stamina from their players.

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Quote from: bitLeap on January 19, 2025, 08:32:02 AM

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Liverpool once again showed their class by grabbing a crucial win over Brentford, while in another match, Aston Villa managed to force Arsenal to a draw at the Emirates Stadium. This draw makes Arsenal lose momentum in the hunt for important points, their inability to maintain the lead gives an advantage to Liverpool.
Now the team coached by Arne Slot is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with 50 points, Arsenal struggle is getting harder after falling behind 6 points from Liverpool.

Without Darwin Nunez 2 goals Liverpool might have lost points, 90 minutes everyone has done everything and finally the extra time is the answer. The entry of Nunez clearly provides an advantage because most of the Brentford players are focused on Mo Salah. 37 attempts of shots launched by Liverpool but only need 3 minutes to finish it.

We saw a couple of saves from Alisson. Brentford made some nice attacks too. I love the overall composure of Liverpool their counter attack was professional especially in the way they communicated with the ball in their opponents box. Nunez was the right substitute for the game as his presence converted their chances to goal.

Arne Slot indeed is increasingly dominating, and holding on to the top position, currently they are 6 points ahead of Arsenal and still have one outstanding match to play to meet up with week 22 which will be against Ipswich Town who just lost 6 goals to Manchester city. And after Liverpool are done playing Ipswich Town on the 25th they should be 9 points ahead of Arsenal.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 19, 2025, 05:12:48 AM

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- Everton - Tottenham : Double chance on Everton @1.47
- Manchester United - Brighton : BTTS @1.62
- Nottingham Forest - Southampton : Nottingham win @1.41
- Ipswich - Manchester City : Manchester City win @1.41
...

Actually looking at it now, it could have really been a great parlay with 4.73 total odds. Grin

All of them won easily. The Manchester City game is continuing but they are already 4-0 ahead so...

Nothing changed for Manchester United. They are still in their worst shape. They didn't improve anything since the Southampton game. Just like I said, Brighton didn't have mercy on them. Everton surprised me a lot. Because they got 3-0 ahead in the first half already. Moyes effect was real.

Tottenham tried to come back but all they were able to do was to make it 3-2. Only one point collected in their last 6 league games... Ange Postecoglou had better get ready to be sacked. I would absolutely do so if I were the chairman.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 19, 2025, 12:09:16 PM

Congrats to Everton. They successfully beat Tottenham and get three points. A bit surprised with their 3 goals lead during the first half. I thought they would be struggled, but performed beyond my prediction. They showed solid offence, and managed break through Tottenham's defensive line.

The second half is very different caused by Totteham did minor change, but impacted their performance a lot. So many pressures were coming to the Everton, but they able to keep the score 3:2.

What a game!!! Finally, they're far away from relegation zone.

What is actually wrong with Tottenham?

Funny enough I haven't noticed them or concentrated on them since this season started. I had thought that they'll definitely be in top 10, not knowing that they are worse than Manchester United. All my attention has been in the Manchester side (City and Utd), and not knowing that a wonderful side like Tottenham is struggling. What could be the case, they have good players like;
Son,
Solanke,
Kulusevski,
Sarr,
Richardson and more

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Congrats to Everton. They successfully beat Tottenham and get three points. A bit surprised with their 3 goals lead during the first half. I thought they would be struggled, but performed beyond my prediction. They showed solid offence, and managed break through Tottenham's defensive line.

The second half is very different caused by Totteham did minor change, but impacted their performance a lot. So many pressures were coming to the Everton, but they able to keep the score 3:2.

What a game!!! Finally, they're far away from relegation zone.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on January 19, 2025, 06:16:17 AM

If Manchester United did not win the match against Southampton at home, it would be a huge disappointment, even if they drew, because Southampton has earned just 6 points since the start of the season despite getting promoted to the Premier League. Southampton played an excellent game, dominating Manchester United throughout the first half until they conceded the first goal. Manchester United won the first leg of their away game against Southampton by three goals, and they did not have any difficulties that they faced in the second leg at Old Trafford.

Manchester United has conceded 10 goals from corner kicks this season. I do not watch the games because it's heartbreaking to watch Manchester United play, but if Onana hadn't prevented some goals, Manchester United would have conceded more than one goal against Southampton, who can't escape the relegation zone. Thanks to Amad; he deserves it, without Amad this season, I have no idea where Manchester United would be at this time in the Premier League.

If Manchester United had failed to beat the weakest team in the Premier League at Old Trafford, the attitude towards Amorim would have changed a lot, I think it is obvious now that he is unlikely to be able to improve the team without new transfers. The match with Brighton also started very badly, Brighton scored in the 5th minute, and Brighton is much stronger than Southampton, they are able to score also because Manchester United's defense is weak.

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Quote from: mamesso on January 19, 2025, 07:45:31 AM

Liverpool once again showed their class by grabbing a crucial win over Brentford, while in another match, Aston Villa managed to force Arsenal to a draw at the Emirates Stadium. This draw makes Arsenal lose momentum in the hunt for important points, their inability to maintain the lead gives an advantage to Liverpool.
Now the team coached by Arne Slot is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with 50 points, Arsenal struggle is getting harder after falling behind 6 points from Liverpool.

Without Darwin Nunez 2 goals Liverpool might have lost points, 90 minutes everyone has done everything and finally the extra time is the answer. The entry of Nunez clearly provides an advantage because most of the Brentford players are focused on Mo Salah. 37 attempts of shots launched by Liverpool but only need 3 minutes to finish it.

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Liverpool once again showed their class by grabbing a crucial win over Brentford, while in another match, Aston Villa managed to force Arsenal to a draw at the Emirates Stadium. This draw makes Arsenal lose momentum in the hunt for important points, their inability to maintain the lead gives an advantage to Liverpool.
Now the team coached by Arne Slot is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with 50 points, Arsenal struggle is getting harder after falling behind 6 points from Liverpool.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on January 16, 2025, 07:15:48 PM

That was quite the comeback for Manchester United. They really owe that 3-1 win to Diallo's hat-trick in the last 10 minutes.

He is really a wonderful talent man.

But if we look at the way they perform mostly I can't say they were impressive. Southampton could have even won, no jokes there. Amorim is also aware of that without doubt but let's see.

If Manchester United did not win the match against Southampton at home, it would be a huge disappointment, even if they drew, because Southampton has earned just 6 points since the start of the season despite getting promoted to the Premier League. Southampton played an excellent game, dominating Manchester United throughout the first half until they conceded the first goal. Manchester United won the first leg of their away game against Southampton by three goals, and they did not have any difficulties that they faced in the second leg at Old Trafford.

Manchester United has conceded 10 goals from corner kicks this season. I do not watch the games because it's heartbreaking to watch Manchester United play, but if Onana hadn't prevented some goals, Manchester United would have conceded more than one goal against Southampton, who can't escape the relegation zone. Thanks to Amad; he deserves it, without Amad this season, I have no idea where Manchester United would be at this time in the Premier League.

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Today the fixtures are like below.

- Everton - Tottenham : Double chance on Everton @1.47
- Manchester United - Brighton : BTTS @1.62
- Nottingham Forest - Southampton : Nottingham win @1.41
- Ipswich - Manchester City : Manchester City win @1.41

My options are like this but I'm not sure about betting on all of them though. Tongue

I feel confident about Nottingham considering the way they have played so far. If we don't see a huge surprise like the one in the Newcastle game yesterday of course.

Everton can look like risky. But I'm nearly trusting them more than Manchester City. Grin

David Moyes has just been appointed for Everton manager job. They didn't play bad at all against Aston Villa a few days ago despite losing by 1-0. I think they might steal a point from Tottenham while Tottenham are also having tough days.

And Manchester United... I don't trust them as much as betting on them. They barely made a comeback against the team at the bottom the last time. Brighton wouldn't have mercy on them if they play the same. I choose BTTS instead here.

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Quote from: bitLeap on January 18, 2025, 06:47:42 AM

Quote from: junder on January 17, 2025, 10:05:30 PM

I think Manchester City fans should be happy with the news that their attacking midfielder has decided to stay with the squad.

It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.

With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.

Haaland seems to want to be a Man City legend if you look at his very long contract extension until 2034 and Pep Guardiola may have left. I'm not sure Haaland will stay because when the club changes coaches the system is also different. Unless later there is a club that wants to pay Haaland release clause in the future.

Haaland is certainly keen to stay at Manchester City which is why he has signed such a long-term deal with Manchester City.
Pep Guardiola may take charge of another club in the long term, but Haaland is unlikely to play for another club. Haaland is undoubtedly a quality player and the player has played a great role in every game for Manchester City, so Manchester City certainly did not want to risk losing him, which is why such a long-term plan extended his contract again. But I think we should change clubs sometimes rather than staying in the same club. However, since Manchester City are giving Haaland enough opportunities, the star might feel more comfortable staying at Manchester City. After keeping Haaland in the squad for the long term, Manchester City will have to do one thing and that is to bring in a quality midfielder to supply him with the ball.

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Quote from: reefsea on January 18, 2025, 05:57:42 PM

A fun week for Liverpool fans because liverpool managed to get 3 points in today match while Arsenal failed to get full points so that the points gap widened between the two. I saw the Brentford vs Liverpool match where both teams were so frustrated in this match because it was so difficult to score goals in the first half, they had many opportunities but could not be maximized properly so that the first half ended goalless.

In the second half, the game was still the same but Liverpool, who were strengthened by a number of quality players, were able to put pressure on Brentford and also created many good opportunities. Nunez became a big hero in this match, He managed to score a goal in the final minutes of the match which brought liverpool to 3 points dramatically. Well when Salah failed to score, liverpool had nunez, I think they are in the forefront of winning the championship this season.

This like a show-up for Nunez if he still deserves to be called a reliable striker, many clubs are interesting for his service like Al hilal, but Liverpool still hold him with new agreement. Liverpool want let him go under $85 Million Euro. This match show if Nunez very worthy of such a price even a bit too late to create the brace goal. His performance last night it was amazing, I was expecting it to end in a draw because Brentford implementing a slick defensive strategy. Liverpool look desperate when Salah is unable to capitalize on opportunities. Darwin Nunez completed well, he looks happy after created a goal, maybe because he has only made 4 goals this season, so this goal can give him new motivation to make more goals on next match.

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Manchester City will have to struggle for them to achieve those 3 points against Ipswich Town because if Manchester City can go on a draw against Brentford in a game this week, then it will be very hard for them to win against Ipswich Town, which they have to struggle a lot with because their performance is still not stable. And this problem is not only from the players but also from the coach, who we all know he is already emotionally stressed due to his divorce, so for Manchester City to meet up to the top 4 in the table this season, it will definitely be a big deal for them. Not as easy as we all are expecting, it will be hard for them.

Manchester City will have to be careful against Ipswich Town, Chelsea got a shocking defeat against them recently. Their defense needs to be reliable this time around more than the game against Brentford to avoid another shocking drop of points in their top four race.

Ipswich is weaker than Brentford, Man City should be able to beat them, yes, even though Man City's performance is still not stable, but when facing a weak club, Man City can still play well, every point that Man City gets is very important for now because they have lost many points in recent weeks and are behind the leaders. Man City must fight hard to improve their ranking and try to finish in the top 4 at least to get a UCL ticket.

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