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Quote from: Slow death on January 15, 2025, 09:46:56 AM

Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

yesterday was a very bad day for me:

I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.

Maybe yes Liverpool can appear not as expected after the results received when facing Manchester United or other possibilities because of what he faced Nottingham Forest who was in the form of their best game.
I care about the bettors that I estimate many people failed because yesterday's match seemed like a match that made many predictions wrong.

Yesterday I wanted to say that the Arsenal match against Tottenham needs to be careful. It could be that Arsenal will win to make this league gambling more interesting until the end of the season. Didn't have time to be a post because I had fallen asleep, when I saw the results Arsenal won so that competition was getting tougher.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 16, 2025, 04:43:19 AM

Guardiola really loves Gundogan normally and that's why he wanted to bring him back to the team. But his performance has dropped very significantly recently indeed. Rodri's absence pushes Guardiola to select Gundogan for the starting lineup. Otherwise I don't think we would see him on the pitch. As Rodri is out for a long time maybe Guardiola would think of bringing a new DM before the end of this window.

At one of the post-match press conferences he said that his players are not getting younger, it is clear that he did not mean all the players, but this may apply to Gundogan, and he also mentioned this when he was asked why De Bruyne has become less likely to come out in the starting lineup.
I also think that Guardiola is not very happy with the goalkeepers' play, Ederson is sitting on the bench, and after the match with Brentford Guardiola completely lost his temper with Ortega, it was a terrible sight, Guardiola's nerves clearly can't withstand what is happening to the team.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 15, 2025, 04:52:08 PM

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If Nottingham Forest was successful this season as you said, I would pat them to them for the success they had been waiting for.

How do you define the success of Nottingham Forest? Win EPL trophy, finish in the top 3, or join UCL next season? I personally think that this team has been successful this season. In the last season, they were in the 17th place (almost in the relegation zone). It is surprised to see them in the top 3 EPL standings. If they keep playing consistently, I'm sure they probably finish in the top 5 at least.

Winning the Premier League trophy is not included in my definition of their success because Liverpool will be the team that will successfully record 20 Premier League trophies at the end of this season.

Finishing in the top 4 and playing in the Champions League next season is probably the definition of Nottingham Forest's success that I mean even though they have historically been there as a team that has won the trophy 2 times.
When you see their struggle last season which ended in the position you mentioned, of course it is surprising when this season they are showing their best form. Not only us, maybe many Premier League fans are also surprised.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 16, 2025, 03:15:21 AM

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Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

OMG that was an unexpected result luckily I missed yesterday's bet if I bet I might have suffered a loss too because Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool have been favorites to win this match but it turned out they were only able to get a draw, for the Liverpool match I think it's not too surprising because Nottingham Forest is not a club that can be underestimated this season so the draw is a pretty satisfying result for them for Chelsea and Man City it's a shame they were only able to get a draw when they were quite dominant in controlling the match.

Well, we can't blame the top clubs for not being able to win their games against supposed smaller or weaker clubs, the game of football is full of surprises and the unexpected, if it was easy for top clubs to beat smaller or weaker clubs, maybe we wouldn't have had to call their encounter a game or a match.

A lot of people did lose money in yesterday's games specially with the mentioned clubs, but I believe this is nothing new to bettors, there are always days like yesterday, and there's nothing we can do about it other than accept the loses and move on to the next.

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Quote from: Josefjix on January 16, 2025, 03:01:48 AM

It's really shocking me that Nottingham forest is standing on top 4 on the table since they are newly relegated side to be this strong at the start of the season up to this moment, I am really thinking this team can perform like the way Leicester did last time they collected the premier League title, do you think Nottingham can do such miracle?

That’s what they’ve got in view, to rewrite the Leicester City story in the premier league history. They’ve been astonishing and don’t look like a team that would let any of the top teams ride on them. In fact, they are one of the top teams now, despite them coming from relegation over the course of last season. When they played Liverpool just recently, they very much disoriented the Liverpool play in the first half and got them into a counter attacking contest.
The game was much different in the second half but, you could see the courage of Nottingham Forest. I don think they could manage a win of the trophy this season though.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on January 15, 2025, 06:15:19 AM

Many gamblers will be disappointed with Chelsea's result, they had expected the match to favor the home team. Chelsea had a lot of opportunities and attempts, but wasn't enough to win. Chelsea, on the other hand, puts at risk their chances of finishing in the top four this season, they are two points ahead of Newcastle, and if Newcastle beats Wolves in today's game, they will take over fourth place from Chelsea, while I believe they are saying goodbye to the next Champions League.

Newcastle are unstoppable. Their winning streak is now 6 games. Shocked

They really deserve top 4 as long as they maintain this level. Isak has a big role in this though. 15 goals and 5 assists. More than 50% goal contribution considering Newcastle have scored 37 goals in the league so far.

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on January 15, 2025, 06:39:51 AM

City got disappointment result due doe the Pep's horrible sub. He should not sent off Kovacic for Gundogan. This subs made the team fall down during the last minutes. It's really unacceptable Gundo has been declining so hard. Pep must never put him on the pitch. He's a setback for his club.

Guardiola really loves Gundogan normally and that's why he wanted to bring him back to the team. But his performance has dropped very significantly recently indeed. Rodri's absence pushes Guardiola to select Gundogan for the starting lineup. Otherwise I don't think we would see him on the pitch. As Rodri is out for a long time maybe Guardiola would think of bringing a new DM before the end of this window.

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Quote from: Josefjix on January 16, 2025, 03:01:48 AM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 15, 2025, 05:41:06 PM

Nottingham Forest's coach must be thanked for such unprecedented improvement. With the help of Nuno Espirito Santo, Nottingham Forest is performing well consistently. At the same time, the reason for Nottingham Forest's good performance is their strong defense. Because the defense is strong, it has become a little easier for this team to perform well.

It's really shocking me that Nottingham forest is standing on top 4 on the table since they are newly relegated side to be this strong at the start of the season up to this moment, I am really thinking this team can perform like the way Leicester did last time they collected the premier League title, do you think Nottingham can do such miracle?

After promotion three seasons ago, they continued to be at the bottom of the Premier League and even in the last two seasons they have had to struggle to stay in the Premier League, so it is surprising to see what they has shown this season in the league, the consistency and outstanding performance of non-star players has made them now able to be at the top of the Premier League and even be able to outperform a team that this season which spent more than 200 million (chelsea), Nottingham Forest have a pretty good chance of competing for the title this season, because they has shown consistent form and are able to face strong teams in the league, but for this season it looks like Liverpool are still the main favourites to be winner given their quality and experience.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

OMG that was an unexpected result luckily I missed yesterday's bet if I bet I might have suffered a loss too because Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool have been favorites to win this match but it turned out they were only able to get a draw, for the Liverpool match I think it's not too surprising because Nottingham Forest is not a club that can be underestimated this season so the draw is a pretty satisfying result for them for Chelsea and Man City it's a shame they were only able to get a draw when they were quite dominant in controlling the match.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on January 16, 2025, 02:49:45 AM

Seriously. All the matches ended as expected; all the teams expected to win tried their best to win the match, although, as you said about Everton, I didn’t expect them to win because of that new coach they got. Now that Aston Villa will win the match, Everton has a new coach, and this is the reason why the manager will think of bringing in new strategies that will suit his squad, and since it’s going to be a new strategy, the players will find it hard to play as they used to, so that is why I think Aston Villa will get the win.

Not everyone agrees with the results of yesterday's match. This is one of the matches that surprised the fans. The team that should have won instead lost, the fact that the direction was not as desired. Everton's defeat was normal, perhaps their new coach did not fully understand the position of the players, so it took several matches to can win. I'm not sure Aston Villa will win next week's match and it won't be easy for them to beat their opponents without hard work and a balanced team contribution. The match between Crystal Palace vs Leicester and Arsenal Tottenham was very interesting, the results were as expected.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 15, 2025, 05:41:06 PM

Nottingham Forest's coach must be thanked for such unprecedented improvement. With the help of Nuno Espirito Santo, Nottingham Forest is performing well consistently. At the same time, the reason for Nottingham Forest's good performance is their strong defense. Because the defense is strong, it has become a little easier for this team to perform well.

It's really shocking me that Nottingham forest is standing on top 4 on the table since they are newly relegated side to be this strong at the start of the season up to this moment, I am really thinking this team can perform like the way Leicester did last time they collected the premier League title, do you think Nottingham can do such miracle?

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on January 15, 2025, 05:32:06 PM

Great football today I don't know about other but this was a very straight forward match day and the teams that were meant to win won. Aston Villa beat Everton today, a good football watcher would have expected that but I had a little skeptism because Everton just got a new coach, crystal palace beat Leicester this was expected because Leicester are not playing well right now and crystal palace are in form, Newcastle United best wolves this right here was the most straightforward and then Arsenal beating Tottenham in the north London derby ends the night.

Seriously. All the matches ended as expected; all the teams expected to win tried their best to win the match, although, as you said about Everton, I didn’t expect them to win because of that new coach they got. Now that Aston Villa will win the match, Everton has a new coach, and this is the reason why the manager will think of bringing in new strategies that will suit his squad, and since it’s going to be a new strategy, the players will find it hard to play as they used to, so that is why I think Aston Villa will get the win.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 15, 2025, 05:36:45 PM

^ full-time results of all of today's games.
I expected Arsenal to trip over Tottenham and lose points (as Tottenham has a good history of earning points on higher-rated clubs) but they delivered and jumped bak into 2nd place, 4 points behind Liverpool.

But I think another win by Newcastle is more worthy of being mentioned. It's their 9th consecutive win (all competitions considered) and 6th Premier League win in a row. Together with Nottm Forest, they prove to be a dark horse of this season. I don't expect them to win, but they surely have a chance for the top 3 or top 4 at the expense of much bigger and wealthier clubs such as Chelsea or Man City.

The only teams that I expect to win their games are Arsenal, Newcastle and Aston Villa and that is what the result shows at the end, I expect Aston Villa to win Everton because Aston Villa is in good shape and also Newcastle to defeat Wolves, Who notice that Newcastle striker Alexander Isak is among the best players in the world right now, the player is doing well in every game and keep scoring goals to help his team, even Victor Gyokeres that is scoring goals from the beginning of the season is not scoring goals than Isak now and I think any team that gets the player will enjoy him but his price will be very high.

Arsenal won against Tottenham with a good performance yesterday, I was not surprised by the defeat because I know that Arsenal know how to play against Tottenham and when it comes to playing against Tottenham they always take it seriously like El Clasico of Real Madrid and Barcelona, Arsenal are getting close to Liverpool gradually but that doesn't mean that Arsenal have a chance to win the league title, Arsenal can still lose match against small team if they did not have a good striker, If Arteta did not get a striker next season he should be sack because it looks like he is not serious.

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When everyone gets a tie, it feels like the week didn't even existed. Nobody gets closer or gets away, they are all getting a tie, so the points stand and nobody changes much. Arsenal could change that but I doubt that, all in all this looks like we are not going to really have anything changing for the week.

We need to wait for next week and see how that works, it would make more sense in that regard and we could probably see some things changing as well. I am not really guessing how these things could change, while it doesn't really look like we are going to end up with different results. When a week ends with all ties at the top, it is not just boring, but it also just means that the leader is at safe place and everyone else keeps their place as well.

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Quote from: reefsea on January 15, 2025, 05:34:35 PM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 15, 2025, 04:52:08 PM

Nottingham Forest has done a great job by getting a draw against the strongest team in EPL this season (Liverpool). It wasn't easy match because Liverpool very dominated the match. But Nottingham Forest has strong defense line, they still could steal a point from Liverpool. I'm sure no one who think Nottingham Forest can steal point from Liverpool. Cheesy

The match Arsenal vs Tottenham is almost over. Arsenal is leading with 2 goals, Arsenal returns to the 2nd place. Arsenal collects 43 points, the point gap with Liverpool is still 4 points. I think it is not really close, it won't be easy to shorten the point gap because Arsenal will have some big matches in the near future (against Aston Villa and Man City).

I thought in this match Tottenham would be able to end their bad streak by winning but in fact the bad situation haunted them again because Arsenal was able to make a comeback and lock in 3 points. The own goal boosted Arsenal's fighting spirit in turning things around, of course a great job done by Arsenal players in this match. Son has proven his quality and he deserves praise but unfortunately the final result was so disappointing.

4 points are certainly not too much anymore, but there is still one chance for Liverpool because they have only played 20 matches while Arsenal has 21 matches. Liverpool have recorded 2 matches with a draw, of course they must be able to improve their performance in order to widen the gap in points by winning again. Arsenal performed well as well as Nottingham Forest who are increasingly showing their best strength.

This is actually a bad season for Tottenham they might likely sack there couch any moment soon having seen that there numbers of lost is more higher than game won, when Tothenham first scored all my thoughts was that either Tothenham wins the game or draw I never expected them to loss and it wasn't much longer arsenal has to equalize and still went ahead to make it 2-1 over Tottenham before HT, Son has really try his best for his team but it seems they still needed more players like Son.
Arsenal 3 points against Tothenham yesterday makes them go second position in the English premier league table which I believe will make the English league more competitive and it will also awaken the Liverpool Spirit to work harder so they can still maintain their first place in the English premier league table though they still have an outstanding game at head it could get all 3 points in that game they will have a gap point of 7 above Arsenal which will still keep them at advantage of winning the league tittle this season.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on January 15, 2025, 05:44:41 PM

I never thought Arsenal would have won the game after that Son Heung opened the net around the 25th minutes into the first half game and gave Tottenham that lead, thought Arsenal would only equalize the game and that's probably during the second half base on the fact they are facing Tottenham a strong opponent side, but Arsenal did surprise me and scored in the 44th minutes of the game, and held it firmly until the end of the match, it indeed a great comeback and now still stand firmly in the 2nd spot, in the premier league table.

That beautiful goal Son Heung made outside penalty box, and I had thought also that tottenham will control the match after that, but all not expected because the defender seem forget if Arsenal attacker is always have chance to infiltrate their defense so that a counter goal occurs while they were off guard. And After that goal, Tottenham is even more careless, Trossard quite observant to placing his self after got spoiled assists from Odegard and create goal winning. Yes, I think Arsenal has shown its class. They are look serious to shift Liverpool position after don't have more chances to win other tournaments.

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 15, 2025, 05:30:47 PM

Between 25th and 40th minute, anyone bet on Arsenal to win? The odds should be very good.

Arsenal made a nice comeback and won the derby. Trossard did the important job and scored this time. Arsenal are doing well, they won in a week when their rivals drew and moved up to 2nd place. Tottenham are having a very bad season. After 21 games their number of defeats has exceeded their number of wins and draws. Postecoglou looks like he could be sacked at any moment. Many fans are reacting against him on social media.

I never thought Arsenal would have won the game after that Son Heung opened the net around the 25th minutes into the first half game and gave Tottenham that lead, thought Arsenal would only equalize the game and that's probably during the second half base on the fact they are facing Tottenham a strong opponent side, but Arsenal did surprise me and scored in the 44th minutes of the game, and held it firmly until the end of the match, it indeed a great comeback and now still stand firmly in the 2nd spot, in the premier league table.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 15, 2025, 04:52:08 PM

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If Nottingham Forest was successful this season as you said, I would pat them to them for the success they had been waiting for.

How do you define the success of Nottingham Forest? Win EPL trophy, finish in the top 3, or join UCL next season? I personally think that this team has been successful this season. In the last season, they were in the 17th place (almost in the relegation zone). It is surprised to see them in the top 3 EPL standings. If they keep playing consistently, I'm sure they probably finish in the top 5 at least.

We are all very surprised by the performance of Nottingham Forest this season. Unexpectedly, Nottingham Forest is playing great this season. The team has maintained a good performance for a long time. We have seen that Nottingham Forest was at the bottom of the points table in the last season. Qualifying for the Premier League was a difficult challenge for Nottingham Forest. But this season, the team is in the top 3 of the table.

Nottingham Forest's coach must be thanked for such unprecedented improvement. With the help of Nuno Espirito Santo, Nottingham Forest is performing well consistently. At the same time, the reason for Nottingham Forest's good performance is their strong defense. Because the defense is strong, it has become a little easier for this team to perform well.

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I expected Arsenal to trip over Tottenham and lose points (as Tottenham has a good history of earning points on higher-rated clubs) but they delivered and jumped bak into 2nd place, 4 points behind Liverpool.

But I think another win by Newcastle is more worthy of being mentioned. It's their 9th consecutive win (all competitions considered) and 6th Premier League win in a row. Together with Nottm Forest, they prove to be a dark horse of this season. I don't expect them to win, but they surely have a chance for the top 3 or top 4 at the expense of much bigger and wealthier clubs such as Chelsea or Man City.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on January 15, 2025, 04:52:08 PM

Nottingham Forest has done a great job by getting a draw against the strongest team in EPL this season (Liverpool). It wasn't easy match because Liverpool very dominated the match. But Nottingham Forest has strong defense line, they still could steal a point from Liverpool. I'm sure no one who think Nottingham Forest can steal point from Liverpool. Cheesy

The match Arsenal vs Tottenham is almost over. Arsenal is leading with 2 goals, Arsenal returns to the 2nd place. Arsenal collects 43 points, the point gap with Liverpool is still 4 points. I think it is not really close, it won't be easy to shorten the point gap because Arsenal will have some big matches in the near future (against Aston Villa and Man City).

I thought in this match Tottenham would be able to end their bad streak by winning but in fact the bad situation haunted them again because Arsenal was able to make a comeback and lock in 3 points. The own goal boosted Arsenal's fighting spirit in turning things around, of course a great job done by Arsenal players in this match. Son has proven his quality and he deserves praise but unfortunately the final result was so disappointing.

4 points are certainly not too much anymore, but there is still one chance for Liverpool because they have only played 20 matches while Arsenal has 21 matches. Liverpool have recorded 2 matches with a draw, of course they must be able to improve their performance in order to widen the gap in points by winning again. Arsenal performed well as well as Nottingham Forest who are increasingly showing their best strength.

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Great football today I don't know about other but this was a very straight forward match day and the teams that were meant to win won. Aston Villa beat Everton today, a good football watcher would have expected that but I had a little skeptism because Everton just got a new coach, crystal palace beat Leicester this was expected because Leicester are not playing well right now and crystal palace are in form, Newcastle United best wolves this right here was the most straightforward and then Arsenal beating Tottenham in the north London derby ends the night.

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