For me, the PL has clearly opened up a lot, and there is a clear winner, which is Liverpool, the team that I thought would continue to compete but whose effectiveness has decreased a little has been Arsenal, however, now another team that almost no one names but that is playing a role that I no longer understand is MU, until now they have not been able to have good consistency and this delays everything, for me one of the things they should do is change their mentality, the coach has already implemented his strategy and it seems that he is not going to change it, so this is complicated, and City is doing very badly.
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For me, the PL has clearly opened up a lot, and there is a clear winner, which is Liverpool, the team that I thought would continue to compete but whose effectiveness has decreased a little has been Arsenal, however, now another team that almost no one names but that is playing a role that I no longer understand is MU, until now they have not been able to have good consistency and this delays everything, for me one of the things they should do is change their mentality, the coach has already implemented his strategy and it seems that he is not going to change it, so this is complicated, and City is doing very badly.
Who would have thought Nunez would save the day? 
He entered the game in the second half and turned into a game changer in the last moments. 2 goals scored by him by a short interval... Is the old Nunez back? 
I doubt that though. I wouldn't trust him as he has shown many deceiving performances before as well. No matter what I would focus on selling him and bringing a proper striker in his place unless he starts scoring every game.
Anyways, Liverpool struggled a lot despite creating goal opportunities easily. Now they will hope for Arsenal to lose points. But I feel like Aston Villa won't be able to resist until the end at Emirates. 1.57 odds given for Arsenal win...
That's the funny part of football it is never over until final whistle his Bruce at the dying minutes of the game gave Liverpool 3 points to keep them 7 point ahead of Arsenal. He entered the game in the second half and turned into a game changer in the last moments. 2 goals scored by him by a short interval... Is the old Nunez back? I doubt that though. I wouldn't trust him as he has shown many deceiving performances before as well. No matter what I would focus on selling him and bringing a proper striker in his place unless he starts scoring every game.
Anyways, Liverpool struggled a lot despite creating goal opportunities easily. Now they will hope for Arsenal to lose points. But I feel like Aston Villa won't be able to resist until the end at Emirates. 1.57 odds given for Arsenal win...
Nunez performance was wonderful after coming in in the second half of the game he is really a game changer for Liverpool today I Know Liverpool fans will be surprised by his two goals today because he hardly see the net for Liverpool I won't still say if Nunez is back to form but the most important thing there is that he gave Liverpool an important win to keep them 7 point ahead of Arsenal.
It is going to be a tough game for Arsenal winning Aston Villa to close this gap won't be easy but in football anything can happen I won't still be surprised if Aston Villa eventually win Arsenal.
Although it was difficult to win in this away match, but Liverpool still managed to get three points and this victory was not at all easy to get. Because the two goals that were created also occurred in 90+ injury time, and Nunez managed to make a victory for Liverpool in this away game by making two goals. I just didn't expect that in the end Nunez managed to become a deadlock breaker and provide a victory with a good score for Liverpool in this match. Thus, then of course Liverpool are still firmly at the top of the standings, because Arsenal also looks still ambitious to be able to compete for the title this season.
Manchester United needed this win so bad honestly. Diallo was the hero of the game for sure with a lovely hat-trick. 
However they had huge problems on making this comeback at the same time. All of their goals came really late. Nearly they could have lost to the last placed team Southampton. There is still a huge problem obviously. They shouldn't be in need of one player to step forward and save the day all the time. The teamwork should be much better than this.
I already have doubts about their Brighton game honestly.
I wouldn't bet on the Red Devils there. Even against Southampton I got very uncomfortable while following it. I just wanted to add it to raise the total odds a little that's all. I hate losing from low odds.
You are right. But I was expecting Southampton to put in a real fight against Manchester United. Southampton are in the rock bottom of the Premier League standing and they would be fighting aggressively to be able to get out of the relegation zone and I knew it would a tough match for Manchester United as their form in the league too has not been strong. However they had huge problems on making this comeback at the same time. All of their goals came really late. Nearly they could have lost to the last placed team Southampton. There is still a huge problem obviously. They shouldn't be in need of one player to step forward and save the day all the time. The teamwork should be much better than this.I already have doubts about their Brighton game honestly.
I wouldn't bet on the Red Devils there. Even against Southampton I got very uncomfortable while following it. I just wanted to add it to raise the total odds a little that's all. I hate losing from low odds.It was a nice fight by Southampton, though the match would have ended in a draw but Amad Diallo worked the magic for United for them to be able to get all three point very late in the match. This series of mixed performances as questioned their cohesiveness as a team. I am sure with Ruben Amorim as head coach he will definitely work on the team's performance to make them play as a stable team.
Who would have thought Nunez would save the day? He entered the game in the second half and turned into a game changer in the last moments. 2 goals scored by him by a short interval... Is the old Nunez back?
I doubt that though. I wouldn't trust him as he has shown many deceiving performances before as well. No matter what I would focus on selling him and bringing a proper striker in his place unless he starts scoring every game.
Anyways, Liverpool struggled a lot despite creating goal opportunities easily.
Today match was really very difficult for Liverpool, even though they were the favorite team and were more favored in the match, but throughout the 90 minutes Brentford was able to keep up and even continue to trouble the defense that Liverpool has, I think with the performance brentford showed in the match we can say that if they were actually unlucky, the substitutions made by the slot really had a significant impact on the creativity of their attacking line, because having difficulty breaking into the Brentford goal throughout the match. He entered the game in the second half and turned into a game changer in the last moments. 2 goals scored by him by a short interval... Is the old Nunez back? I doubt that though. I wouldn't trust him as he has shown many deceiving performances before as well. No matter what I would focus on selling him and bringing a proper striker in his place unless he starts scoring every game.
Anyways, Liverpool struggled a lot despite creating goal opportunities easily.
The victory over Brentford has made them even stronger at the top of the Premier League standings, two goals in the last minute have actually shown their extraordinary mentality to get out of the pressure in every game that exists this season.
Indeed, if you look at Manchester City's performance, of course they have not found their best form, but a draw is better than losing points. For me, Manchester City is out of the title race this season because they are quite far behind Liverpool and maybe their target is only to end the season in the top 4. But if other teams are not consistent, of course it opens up opportunities for Manchester City, but it seems like it will be difficult to happen.
Manchester City should see all three points against Ipswich Town. I am confident Man city will struggle to get all points and start a fight to secure their position in the top 4 before the end of the season. As rightly said City is far from the league title but they still have a big chance to get a spot in the top 4 position if they can keep up with consistent winning.One thing with the premier league is no team is 100% consistent with their wins as such any team can always overtake and replace slacking ones. All City owes themselves is to remain consistent till the end of season so they can have higher chances of securing good position in the top 4.
Who would have thought Nunez would save the day? He entered the game in the second half and turned into a game changer in the last moments. 2 goals scored by him by a short interval... Is the old Nunez back?
I doubt that though. I wouldn't trust him as he has shown many deceiving performances before as well. No matter what I would focus on selling him and bringing a proper striker in his place unless he starts scoring every game.
Anyways, Liverpool struggled a lot despite creating goal opportunities easily. Now they will hope for Arsenal to lose points. But I feel like Aston Villa won't be able to resist until the end at Emirates. 1.57 odds given for Arsenal win...
He entered the game in the second half and turned into a game changer in the last moments. 2 goals scored by him by a short interval... Is the old Nunez back? I doubt that though. I wouldn't trust him as he has shown many deceiving performances before as well. No matter what I would focus on selling him and bringing a proper striker in his place unless he starts scoring every game.
Anyways, Liverpool struggled a lot despite creating goal opportunities easily. Now they will hope for Arsenal to lose points. But I feel like Aston Villa won't be able to resist until the end at Emirates. 1.57 odds given for Arsenal win...
I think Manchester City fans should be happy with the news that their attacking midfielder has decided to stay with the squad.
It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.
With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.
Haaland seems to want to be a Man City legend if you look at his very long contract extension until 2034 and Pep Guardiola may have left. I'm not sure Haaland will stay because when the club changes coaches the system is also different. Unless later there is a club that wants to pay Haaland release clause in the future.It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.
With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.
I'd rather think Haaland's decision to extending his contract for 9.5 years is a signal if nothing will happen with his team related to their 129 charges.
If City would be relegated due the charges, he would not sign a new contract. He leaves for the other big club, but he is in a City's long term project. It means City won't be relegated, and they won't need to sell their players to comply with PSR.
I think Pep may be staying much longer in City.
Indeed, if you look at Manchester City's performance, of course they have not found their best form, but a draw is better than losing points. For me, Manchester City is out of the title race this season because they are quite far behind Liverpool and maybe their target is only to end the season in the top 4. But if other teams are not consistent, of course it opens up opportunities for Manchester City, but it seems like it will be difficult to happen.
If the opponents were Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea, a draw might have been fair, but Brentford were weaker than those three clubs and Man City were already 2-0 up until the 78th minute. Although both teams shared points in this match, the result was like a defeat for Man City, apart from them already leading 2-0, the opponent they faced was weaker than them. There is no longer a target to defend the title after they dropped too many points, they must try to finish in the top four to be able to appear in the UCL next season.
Come on! Leicester City don't need to sign a new player. They will be fukin relegated. They have very small chance to leave from relegation zone, yes, but they're in terrible form. They also financially bad, which is limiting their movement to sign a new player.
This has to be Van Nistelrooy's most difficult situation since he started his career as a manager.
For me, i don't think Leicester City is gonna stay longer. They will obviously back to the Championship. They ain't EPL's level.
Although it looks impossible, we don't know what will happen because sometimes bringing in new players who are not very qualified can sometimes have a big impact on the team.
Van Nistelrooy's task is a little harder but I'm sure he can at least give his best.
I think Manchester City fans should be happy with the news that their attacking midfielder has decided to stay with the squad.
It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.
With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.
Haaland seems to want to be a Man City legend if you look at his very long contract extension until 2034 and Pep Guardiola may have left. I'm not sure Haaland will stay because when the club changes coaches the system is also different. Unless later there is a club that wants to pay Haaland release clause in the future. It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.
With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.
To be fair Leicester city has 19th valuation in the league, which means they are one of the worst teams, hence them having something like this doesn't really shock me that much, it was obvious from the start that they would have something like this because they were one of the worst teams to start the league with.
What they could have maybe done would be just playing way above their value, like suddenly be better than ever, but of course that is very rare and usually doesn't happen. So they are really just where they deserve to be, and not really considering anything changing anytime soon. I believe that we are going to be seeing this become a bigger deal, I believe we can't really consider this to be that bad for them, they are aware of their situation.
What they could have maybe done would be just playing way above their value, like suddenly be better than ever, but of course that is very rare and usually doesn't happen. So they are really just where they deserve to be, and not really considering anything changing anytime soon. I believe that we are going to be seeing this become a bigger deal, I believe we can't really consider this to be that bad for them, they are aware of their situation.
Leicester City is currently one of the worst teams in the league,their form is really bad and so far they cannot even win against teams they have a direct battle with. If they continue like this the situation will get a lot worst for them. The only smart thing to do here is get 2-3 players while the transfer window is active and save this season.
Come on! Leicester City don't need to sign a new player. They will be fukin relegated. They have very small chance to leave from relegation zone, yes, but they're in terrible form. They also financially bad, which is limiting their movement to sign a new player.
This has to be Van Nistelrooy's most difficult situation since he started his career as a manager.
For me, i don't think Leicester City is gonna stay longer. They will obviously back to the Championship. They ain't EPL's level.
Liverpool has become the favourite team to win the Premier League, but unlike you, I actually see that the competitive competition will still occur until the end of the season in determining the championship, so even though Liverpool is currently leading but cannot be sure they will be championship because all possibilities can still happen in the remaining 18 matches they have.
Yes, it is a fact that Liverpool has a fairly wide advantage over the other teams, however now things tend to continue to look in Liverpool's favour, and they now have more experience because they are in the lead, I am sure that they will not let that first place be taken away from them, at least not so easily, for me Man City is still somewhat dangerous, it is a team that at any moment can win everything in a row and that is something that they have accustomed us to do in the PL.
As for Manchester City it seems they won't be able to catch up with the first position looking at where they are right now and with the recent news I heard concerning Pep Guardiola with his family I don't really know if it will affect to coach the team very well just like in previous season, I don't pray it affects is career because I have seen how same cases like this how it affected so many people career in sports. I never thought a team like Manchester city would be in this position this season.
When the seasons started everyone thought that Manchester city are going to be the winners this season and the expectations were high and the outcome everyone is seen now is somthing that we all know that it can happen to anyone but the way Manchester city is acting as if they will be able to dominate the premier league for ever but look at exactly what is happening now, no body would have thought that they will find there self in this condition.
And pep is an excellent man but the result is getting this period might not be encouraging and the club that is list expected that's now leading no on expected Liverpool to lead and even arsenal there is nothing left for them this season, and true thay there is no need to rush but when there is need to rush then it will not be a bad if it's going to be something very important. And how better you get matters a lot and there is need that we learn from our mistakes.
On many occasions I have said that Liverpool are going to win this PL right now, but it is because I believe in the consistency that they always show. This time I know that there are many games left, but they are not going to throw Away the effort they have made. For me, the way they are doing, they are doing well, and the team that has the most potential to catch up with them is Arsenal, therefore they are the team that has the best chance. They showed it two seasons ago when Klopp was there, Liverpool could not keep up. Even so, I would not trust City even if they are doing badly, Pep is like a magician , he can make the difference at any moment.
Liverpool has become the favourite team to win the Premier League, but unlike you, I actually see that the competitive competition will still occur until the end of the season in determining the championship, so even though Liverpool is currently leading but cannot be sure they will be championship because all possibilities can still happen in the remaining 18 matches they have.
Yes, it is a fact that Liverpool has a fairly wide advantage over the other teams, however now things tend to continue to look in Liverpool's favour, and they now have more experience because they are in the lead, I am sure that they will not let that first place be taken away from them, at least not so easily, for me Man City is still somewhat dangerous, it is a team that at any moment can win everything in a row and that is something that they have accustomed us to do in the PL.
I tend to love the second goal more. Amad Diallo and Erisken had a good ball understanding. How Erisken did the proper calculations to release the ball back to Diallo at the right and in the right position, this showed big height of team work and good communication without any form of selfish game.
For their game against Brighton I know for sure it will be more demanding appearance but Amorim has to work on his team confidence such that they first believe In themselves and understand themselves as a team. I believe this approach should earn them a point or more of they can understand themselves.
Looking at how they defeated Arsenal, and they now defeated Southampton sort of easily, we could see that they are on a roll and they would have some confidence without a doubt. They should be able to beat Brighton as well, they have few more days to relax and rest, so they should be able to get a win here. For their game against Brighton I know for sure it will be more demanding appearance but Amorim has to work on his team confidence such that they first believe In themselves and understand themselves as a team. I believe this approach should earn them a point or more of they can understand themselves.
Obviously after that many games, the players are probably tired, I do not know if they had any training or whatever during this period, but if I was Amorim, I would just let the players be at home and tell them to just rest all day at home until Brighton game, not even joking. Game on 12th, game on 16th, game on 19th, game on 23rd, game on 26th, and game on 30th. Those are the games they have/had, and that's really pretty tiring and fatigue could become a huge issue for them if they do not rest properly. If they keep training between games too? That could cause a lot of injuries.
I think Manchester City fans should be happy with the news that their attacking midfielder has decided to stay with the squad.
It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.
With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.
It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.
With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.
If you say that a draw at home against Brentford was a fair result for Manchester City, then that I think goes a long way to explain how far they've lost their form especially in the last four months. Manchester City I thought would've easily won that game after they went 2:0 up through Phil Foden goals but because of their lackluster, they ended up drawing that game. Poor result for the Citizens if you ask me. I don't think they have any reason to be excused for such performance. Pep Guardiola isn't doing enough to improve his team's performance but hopefully, the arrival of the three new signings will help him get back to winning ways.
Yes, I also agree with you, indeed as a top club, Man City has performed poorly this season and they should not only be able to optimize the draw when playing against an average club, but regardless of all that, at least Man City can still get 1 point in that match rather than having to swallow a defeat that makes them even more frustrated with their poor results in the last 2 months and the arrival of new players this winter is expected to restore Man City's performance as before, I still believe in Pep Guardiola's abilities. 
Not quite. In a draw, they still lose two points and to put this into perspective, it feels like it was a loss to them. Imagine you as a big team leading by 2 goals and then ending up blowing away the lead in the last few minutes of the game to a supposedly weaker team.
If only the other teams were inconsistent and Man City were consistent this time round, maybe they would have a chance, but right now as things look like. Manchester City is done.
If only the other teams were inconsistent and Man City were consistent this time round, maybe they would have a chance, but right now as things look like. Manchester City is done.
This isn't the first time they've dropped points from a comfortable lead; it's happened several times this season, and the defense has been a complete disaster. Now I get why they're already in the market, attempting to figure out their defense while simultaneously dealing with the Kyle Walker problem.
If they can at least get some good defenders, they may be able to compete or close some gaps.
If you say that a draw at home against Brentford was a fair result for Manchester City, then that I think goes a long way to explain how far they've lost their form especially in the last four months. Manchester City I thought would've easily won that game after they went 2:0 up through Phil Foden goals but because of their lackluster, they ended up drawing that game. Poor result for the Citizens if you ask me. I don't think they have any reason to be excused for such performance. Pep Guardiola isn't doing enough to improve his team's performance but hopefully, the arrival of the three new signings will help him get back to winning ways.
Yes, new players like Abdukodir Khusanov, Vitor Reis, and Andrea Cambiaso will improve Manchester City's shortcomings. They are great on the front because they were able to create 2 goals with a collaborative team between midfielder and attacker, but when we talk about defense, that club is very weak since Rodri's injury. the arrival of the 3 players will patch up the deficiencies of the defender. But, I am not sure it will be effective since they still need a player like Rodri. Pep still needs a type of player like this to implement his strategy like before. not only improve the defender.Jump to: