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Quote from: Slow death on November 02, 2024, 02:39:10 PM

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It seems that the burden for Arteta is still very large and they are slowly getting out of the way of the current competition.

In the last two seasons, Arsenal started well, but in the middle of the season they declined, then improved and at the end of the season they declined again. That's why I wasn't surprised by today's result. I wouldn't consider Arsenal as the type of team that will win the Premier League. They may have a good squad, but they are inconsistent at the most important moments. Whenever they have a good chance to lead the table, they waste it and when they are lucky enough to be at the top, they also waste it. That's why in my opinion, with today's defeat, I see them outside the list of teams capable of winning the Premier League this season.

It is undeniable that it is an ingrained Arsenal problem every season that always happens, but the difference for now is not only Manchester City but also Liverpool so that indeed when problems like this have become a seasonal problem they will actually make the situation more complicated.

Now they face 2 big matches in front of their eyes where Inter in the Champions League and Chelsea are ready to be their opponents in the EPL. If in the end they lose points again in this match, it is difficult for Arsenal to be more focused on continuing the competition especially for the EPL where they are now slowly moving away from the competition.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 02, 2024, 03:30:22 PM

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I was surprised to see Newcastle for a wonderful performance today, it remain little I would have loss today, because I wanted to stake the match against Newcastle losing but out something changed my narrative to stake, it was out of surprised I saw arsenal losing

Manchester City and Arsenal made me lose my bet today. Newcastle played well in the match, they were able to get three points, but I was just shocked by the result of the match. Even as Arsenal's performance this season isn’t so good, I was still expecting them to win Newcastle, even if it’s going to be a slight goal difference, but Arsenal couldn’t even get 1 goal in the match, they allowed Newcastle to go away with three points, which is really a bad one for Arsenal.

Liverpool, which is currently in first position, is already leading Arsenal with 7 points. I just have the feeling that it’s going to be difficult for Arsenal to cover up the gap. Seriously, Arteta is having lots to work on this season because Arsenal's performance has dropped dramatically this season.

we should be looking up to this weekend and see if arsenal can equalise by coming up in a table, because this last match was unbelievable that arsenal Newcastle defeated them, many persons slip was cut my Newcastle match and arsenal matches, because is good for us to understand exactly the performance of club in their previous match before we can bet or predict for them to win,because I was double minded for me to bet arsenal to win Newcastle, but luckily I could not do that, so I believe that is by the grace of God that made my money to be with me, instead of me to loss it.

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Great performance by Liverpool tonight. They destroyed Leverkusen 4-0 at Anfield.
We can't say the same about Man City, who, surprisingly, got a pretty bad beating from Sporting and returned home with a 4-1 loss. I'm not sure if it's just bad luck and inability to convert scoring chances into goals, or is it a symptom of some dip in their form. First, they've lost a league game to Bournemouth on the weekend, and now this...

At least Man United fans have a reason to smile. Their new manager, Ruben Amorim, managed to beat their archrivals in (probably) his last game with Sporting.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 05, 2024, 09:02:38 AM

Waiting for news of Amorim's inauguration by Man United management. There is news if he will work from November 11. There are 2 possible fates for Nistelrooy he leaves or he will remain part of the Man United coaching team. Man United legend Sheringham is not sure if Nistelrooy will stay with Amorim. But if you look at the current results he is a coach who has enough potential for the future. Now Nistelrooy still has 2 matches with Man United in the Europa League against PAOK and EPL against Leicester City.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-om/lists/ruud-van-nistelrooy-warned-ruben-amorim-won-t-have-his-back-man-utd-new-manager-tipped-to-axe-dutchman/blt2eb4a689947fb4db#csd875dd183386b0fa

Oh! This is good to know that Van Nesteroy still has time in Manchester United to show his capacity in the club. I had thought that the match against Chelsea is his last match in Manchester United but surprisingly I've seen that Armorin is still in sporting dealing with Guardiola and his boys in the Champions League. That is another story for another day and it could mean a good signal that Manchester United is in a safe hand.
I'm saying weather Van will remain in the Manchester coaching crew will be determined by the decision of the incoming coach, Manchester United management and Van himself. I have read that Amorin is coming with his team of coaches and if that be the case that could be no place for Van. In the other words if van actually has two matches left with Manchester United, if he is able to win these matches, he might not stay back in Manchester United because he must have announced himself and any club could be interested in him. Let's just watch and see how it plays out.

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Quote from: sotelorene on November 05, 2024, 10:38:02 AM

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It seems like Mikel Arteta’s luck has finally run out. You cannot continue to depend on your wingers to give you goals, I said it before that Arsenal will regret not signing Victor Osimhen or any other natural number 9 to fuel their attack. Arsenal were nonchalant in the transfer window and they are now seeing the consequences. This defeat to Newcastle has taken Arsenal off the title race, this season is now between Liverpool and Manchester City.

I was thinking same thing but there's more games to play though, losing against Newcastle was the last thing I expected from Arsenal even though Newcastle is inform I mean the least I expected from Arsenal was a draw and the annoying part was that they had 1 on target despite winning the possession it was a poor performance to me. Man city is somehow struggling too but anything that makes them enter First position it is finished which I don't think is possible for now because Liverpool is not ready to lose any match and even if they will drop point I don't think it will be now. Arsenal has started showing sign of weakness.

The Arsenal match is a flashback of Liverpool losing to Nottingham forest; unexpected results. But the reds are at the top of the table, it's not always about losing, Arsenal will win more games. Sometimes a team gets demoralized for multiple reasons, and the gunners played unlike them, I suspected a poor preparation against Newcastle. Whenever fans underestimate a team it could also have effects on the players performance.

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After a fierce competition between Fulham and Brentford, Fulham finally managed to get 3 points in the final minutes to lock in a 2-goal victory.
Initially, Fulham was 1 goal behind Brentford, but it turned out that Fulham was able to take advantage of the final minutes when Brentford players began to lose focus.
Did anyone bet and watch the match?

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Quote from: samuraijin on November 04, 2024, 11:41:23 PM

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It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.

This season's Premier League is really very tight and even some clubs that are usually not favored are able to be in the top 3 of the Premier League, of course an extraordinary achievement and also not easy for Nottingham Forest to be there or compete with other big clubs such as Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, Nottingham Forest appeared strong and confident in several matches of course surprising many people with Nottingham Forest's development this season, hopefully they can stay in the top 4 of the Premier League standings because that is much more than hoping to get the title.

Every season we always see fierce competition happening in the English League, so this is what distinguishes the English League from other existing leagues, competitive competition with frequent surprises from small teams is undeniable if the English League has become an attraction for players, coaches and even football lovers from all over the world today, While last season we have Aston Villa who were able to be in the top 4 zone, precisely this season we can see how Nottingham Forest has surprised many people with their performance, this season their success in breaking through the top three in the Premier League standings with the ability and consistency possessed certainly deserves our appreciation, But I think their chances of staying in the top 4 until the end of the season will be difficult, because in addition to the season that is still too long, of course, the fierce competition with strong teams will affect their consistency and performance later.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 02, 2024, 10:22:33 AM

It seems like Mikel Arteta’s luck has finally run out. You cannot continue to depend on your wingers to give you goals, I said it before that Arsenal will regret not signing Victor Osimhen or any other natural number 9 to fuel their attack. Arsenal were nonchalant in the transfer window and they are now seeing the consequences. This defeat to Newcastle has taken Arsenal off the title race, this season is now between Liverpool and Manchester City.

I was thinking same thing but there's more games to play though, losing against Newcastle was the last thing I expected from Arsenal even though Newcastle is inform I mean the least I expected from Arsenal was a draw and the annoying part was that they had 1 on target despite winning the possession it was a poor performance to me. Man city is somehow struggling too but anything that makes them enter First position it is finished which I don't think is possible for now because Liverpool is not ready to lose any match and even if they will drop point I don't think it will be now. Arsenal has started showing sign of weakness.

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Waiting for news of Amorim's inauguration by Man United management. There is news if he will work from November 11. There are 2 possible fates for Nistelrooy he leaves or he will remain part of the Man United coaching team. Man United legend Sheringham is not sure if Nistelrooy will stay with Amorim. But if you look at the current results he is a coach who has enough potential for the future. Now Nistelrooy still has 2 matches with Man United in the Europa League against PAOK and EPL against Leicester City.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-om/lists/ruud-van-nistelrooy-warned-ruben-amorim-won-t-have-his-back-man-utd-new-manager-tipped-to-axe-dutchman/blt2eb4a689947fb4db#csd875dd183386b0fa

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Quote from: samuraijin on November 04, 2024, 11:41:23 PM

Quote from: AprilioMP on November 04, 2024, 12:39:19 PM

It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.

This season's Premier League is really very tight and even some clubs that are usually not favored are able to be in the top 3 of the Premier League, of course an extraordinary achievement and also not easy for Nottingham Forest to be there or compete with other big clubs such as Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, Nottingham Forest appeared strong and confident in several matches of course surprising many people with Nottingham Forest's development this season, hopefully they can stay in the top 4 of the Premier League standings because that is much more than hoping to get the title.

For this reason, the EPL has become the most popular league in the world because every season always presents surprises and the matches presented are very exciting. Maybe this season we will see a new Champion in EPL, Liverpool performed very well with Arne Slot, Nottingham forest also made a surprise after successfully entering the top four. Nottingham managed to surpass the points collected by Chelsea, Arsenal and Aston Villa. Their current position is still not safe because the points difference is very thin, in Match 11 there may be a change of position depending on the results achieved.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 04, 2024, 10:46:37 PM

Nottingham Forest has improved quite a bit this season and shown us that a club that is always in the middle of the table is not always stagnant there will be a time when they rise and compete with the top teams like they are doing now it seems like Nottingham Forest will be a dark horse club this season if they are able to survive until the end of the season in maintaining their performance and successfully finishing in the top 4 but they must be consistent and get important points in the future because clubs like Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa will fight for that position until the end of this season.

Of course, It is not always Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, and other major clubs that can finish at the top of the league, Nottingham Forest's outstanding result this season should inspire the other teams that ended up in the middle of the table to fight for a spot among the top four. It will be decided at the end of the season because, at this stage, there is no assurance that this team will maintain their winning ways through the season, most weak teams can perform well at the start of the season before declining at the end of the season.

However, Nottingham Forest needs to add more players in January in case they aim to finish in the top four this season. They will be competing with Tottenham and other top clubs fighting for the spot if they don't have strong players who can stay consistent throughout the season. We've seen Brighton compete in the previous year but their performance declined at the end of the season.

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Quote from: Makus on November 05, 2024, 12:35:14 AM

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Honestly, this season has been a bit weird at the top and this is why people love premier league so much. While yes it is true that City usually dominates, there are still teams fighting for the very top spot almost every year, like City did win these titles, but in most of them either Liverpool or arsenal tried to win it too, but that is just at the very top. When you check, you will see that even the mid table teams are doing amazing, and there are almost always stories to tell about every team.

You can literally make a docu-series for each team of every season, it's that much amazing, there is never a boring time. Notts being third is a huge story, this team is not even that old in premier league, and yet they got good enough to peak at third place so far, maybe they will finish worse as expected, but they did peak at third place already. And United, who looked much worse than Chelsea all season long, got a tie there, which is a good result when you think how bad they have been all season long.

I'm also suprised with the premier leagues table, the performance of small teams are now threathing to those big team who have good record of wining the EPL title. i've always anticipated the premier league to be very competitive this season but this was beyond my prediction. i mean what the hell happend on saturday? Only liverpool managed to deafeat their opponent, man city and arsenal lost with a goal difference. lots of gamblers lost that day because we all assumed the matches to be a workover especially for Manchester city, but it all turned out disappointing.

The small teams that performed well really changed the dynamics of the league, thus showing how competitive the EPL is this season compared to last season, some teams that we never expected and predicted are starting to get into the top 4 like Nottingham Forest, although their may not have the consistency and ability to survive until the end of the season, but at least we can see how their can provide a surprise for us today.

The defeat of Manchester City and Arsenal last weekend has surprised many people, especially the gamblers who rely on the fact that they often look at a bet based on the quality and performance of a team, I think the defeat of Manchester City and Arsenal should make us aware that the English league is not an easy league to predict, because after all in football there is no team that cannot be defeated and the result is not a certain outcome at any time in the match, to be honest, what we saw yesterday is the attraction of the Premier League which we often cannot see happening in other major European leagues today in my opinion.

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Quote from: sana54210 on November 04, 2024, 03:54:52 PM

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It’s true that Nottingham Forest hasn’t reached 4th place in years. But I still believe that the Premier League remains the most competitive league in the world. I’m confident Liverpool will give Manchester City a very tough competition for this year’s title, they are in good form and currently lead the table by 2 points. Some people think Manchester City has made the EPL their own, but this year could be different. If any team other than City wins the league this seasons, it will encourage other teams to strive for greatness in the EPL in the coming years.

Honestly, this season has been a bit weird at the top and this is why people love premier league so much. While yes it is true that City usually dominates, there are still teams fighting for the very top spot almost every year, like City did win these titles, but in most of them either Liverpool or arsenal tried to win it too, but that is just at the very top. When you check, you will see that even the mid table teams are doing amazing, and there are almost always stories to tell about every team.

You can literally make a docu-series for each team of every season, it's that much amazing, there is never a boring time. Notts being third is a huge story, this team is not even that old in premier league, and yet they got good enough to peak at third place so far, maybe they will finish worse as expected, but they did peak at third place already. And United, who looked much worse than Chelsea all season long, got a tie there, which is a good result when you think how bad they have been all season long.

I'm also suprised with the premier leagues table, the performance of small teams are now threathing to those big team who have good record of wining the EPL title. i've always anticipated the premier league to be very competitive this season but this was beyond my prediction. i mean what the hell happend on saturday? Only liverpool managed to deafeat their opponent, man city and arsenal lost with a goal difference. lots of gamblers lost that day because we all assumed the matches to be a workover especially for Manchester city, but it all turned out disappointing.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on November 04, 2024, 12:39:19 PM

It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.

This season's Premier League is really very tight and even some clubs that are usually not favored are able to be in the top 3 of the Premier League, of course an extraordinary achievement and also not easy for Nottingham Forest to be there or compete with other big clubs such as Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, Nottingham Forest appeared strong and confident in several matches of course surprising many people with Nottingham Forest's development this season, hopefully they can stay in the top 4 of the Premier League standings because that is much more than hoping to get the title.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 04, 2024, 10:46:37 PM

Quote from: AprilioMP on November 04, 2024, 12:39:19 PM

It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.

Nottingham Forest has improved quite a bit this season and shown us that a club that is always in the middle of the table is not always stagnant there will be a time when they rise and compete with the top teams like they are doing now it seems like Nottingham Forest will be a dark horse club this season if they are able to survive until the end of the season in maintaining their performance and successfully finishing in the top 4 but they must be consistent and get important points in the future because clubs like Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa will fight for that position until the end of this season.

This is not the first time Tottenham use to improve in the premier league competition, but before the tournament will be getting to the middle or coming to an end of the tournament, you will begin to see Tottenham players experiencing a long injury that will make players not to maintain the good performance. I think Tottenham started this season well which many people can see it from their matches they won so far, they have defeated so many strong teams that make people to seen the new positive change in them, which their head coach need to do something that will make Tottenham players to avoid injuries in this season. Since Arsenal has started experiencing some challenges that is bringing their points down, I don't think Arsenal is going to maintain that second or third position, because Tottenham and Liverpool are coming to drag the second position with Tottenham because Manchester city will still going to embrace this title again.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on November 04, 2024, 12:39:19 PM

It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.

Nottingham Forest has improved quite a bit this season and shown us that a club that is always in the middle of the table is not always stagnant there will be a time when they rise and compete with the top teams like they are doing now it seems like Nottingham Forest will be a dark horse club this season if they are able to survive until the end of the season in maintaining their performance and successfully finishing in the top 4 but they must be consistent and get important points in the future because clubs like Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa will fight for that position until the end of this season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 04, 2024, 02:11:03 AM

It’s true that Nottingham Forest hasn’t reached 4th place in years. But I still believe that the Premier League remains the most competitive league in the world. I’m confident Liverpool will give Manchester City a very tough competition for this year’s title, they are in good form and currently lead the table by 2 points. Some people think Manchester City has made the EPL their own, but this year could be different. If any team other than City wins the league this seasons, it will encourage other teams to strive for greatness in the EPL in the coming years.

Honestly, this season has been a bit weird at the top and this is why people love premier league so much. While yes it is true that City usually dominates, there are still teams fighting for the very top spot almost every year, like City did win these titles, but in most of them either Liverpool or arsenal tried to win it too, but that is just at the very top. When you check, you will see that even the mid table teams are doing amazing, and there are almost always stories to tell about every team.

You can literally make a docu-series for each team of every season, it's that much amazing, there is never a boring time. Notts being third is a huge story, this team is not even that old in premier league, and yet they got good enough to peak at third place so far, maybe they will finish worse as expected, but they did peak at third place already. And United, who looked much worse than Chelsea all season long, got a tie there, which is a good result when you think how bad they have been all season long.

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Quote from: Inwestour on November 04, 2024, 04:10:06 AM

Nottingham were the biggest revelation for me after this tour. When after beating West Ham they were able to move up to 3rd place. They overtook Chelsea, Arsenal and Aston Villa, teams that are more financially stable and who I think prepared for this season more thoroughly. If you look at Nottingham's statistics, you can see that they have a very good defense, which is why they were able to move up so high. And the biggest disappointment so far has been Arsenal, such high expectations and in the end they are only in fifth place.

You're right. Nottingham surprised us, they could be in the top 3 until now. This team actually have no big players, they only have average players. However, they succeed to beat Liverpool in matchday 4 and they got a draw against Chelsea. So far, they have a good record when they played against big teams. Yep, in the table, they could be above Chelsea and Arsenal. I'm very sure, in the early of the season there is no one think Nottingham will be among the teams in the top 3. Grin

Agree. Arsenal and Man United are 2 teams that make use very disappointed. Arsenal should in the top 3 and Man United should be in the top 10 at least. In fact, Arsenal only can stay in the 5th place, meanwhile Man United is in the 13th place. Arsenal seems like having no big motivation to win the EPL title anymore, and Man United turns to be like a mediocre team.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 04, 2024, 10:43:17 AM

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They could only last until the half of this season.

That’s what I am also thinking, but seriously, we shouldn’t underestimate any club, they might end up performing well this season. Even as their performance was so bad last season, a club’s previous performance can’t be used to judge their current performance.

Does not mean to underestimate any team in targeting the final destination. Teams like Nottingham Forest can also realize their dreams if the team is playing compact. Leicester City has shown how great they are in cohesiveness.

It is worth waiting for the final result of the appearance of Nottingham Forest this season. If they succeed, the English Premier League is getting better competition to win the championship tittle at the end of the season.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 03, 2024, 06:40:47 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 03, 2024, 03:59:11 AM

Just hope today's games won't be a replica of what we saw yesterday all because of Uefa games coming midweek...

I know for sure that the United Chelsea game should have some goals..

Tottenham - Aston Villa should also produce some great goals considering these are among the best attacking teams at the moment...countdown is on Cool

Your predictions that the Tottenham vs Aston Villa game should produce a lot of goals actually happened like you predicted because 5 goals were scored in the game with the home team scoring four while the visitors managed to score one which was also the first goal of the game.

For the Manchester United game, just two goals were scored as both teams got one apiece. One more game before the end of match week 10 games in the English Premier League and in summary, I think most the results have been unexpected.

I would have expected such a result from the Manchester United and Chelsea match, it is normal for two unfortunate teams to draw. Manchester United sent Eric Tan Heg off the team. Maybe the misfortunes were his, it is too early to decide. They should have done this, but he was given enough time but he could not get any positive results. Tottenham achieved the result they wanted by scoring four goals.

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