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Absolutely true, Manchester city who are supposed to be the main contenders are unstable at the moment and seems not be ready to compete anytime soon thereby giving room for another suitable contender but I don't see any other team that would be able to match Liverpool in terms of competing for the title because arsenal tried against Manchester city twice and failed and Chelsea do not really look ready rather they seem like a team that only wants to secure a champions League spot, so it all depends on Liverpool's consistency if they want to win the EPL.
It's easier to rate Liverpool above every other big team in the EPL this season in getting the title race, especially since Manchester City has been having a terrible season recently.

Thinking of last season and seeing them ending 3rd place made me to lose my credibility of Liverpool consistency because we all know what happened, and they slowly fell to off the title race and Arsenal who we said were out where later above them.
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Sadly, some of these players brought in by Erik ten Hag are doing well, yes? I see that the management are not ready to splash the cash to get new players during the transfer window upcoming. But won't that be a big shame? A left winger and attacker is what I would suggest they get so far so good. They don't need too much, they have to make sure they fight to be in the top dive clubs at the end of the season. Finally,  Amorim needs time and patience from fans.

Does the course to great performances really have to do with great players on the team?
Real Madrid have some of the best players football can offer at the moment and yet, they aren’t playing good football. Especially without the likes of Vini on the Real Madrid team.
Manchester United haven’t got what Real Madrid have got but, they’ve got some good players in the team as well. Amad is doing exploit as it is and if Manchester United could just learn to better position and utilize what they’ve got, they can excel.
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Sadly, some of these players brought in by Erik ten Hag are doing well, yes? I see that the management are not ready to splash the cash to get new players during the transfer window upcoming. But won't that be a big shame? A left winger and attacker is what I would suggest they get so far so good. They don't need too much, they have to make sure they fight to be in the top dive clubs at the end of the season. Finally,  Amorim needs time and patience from fans.

I don’t think much will change for Man Utd until they get rid of all the high earning, under performing players. The list is a mile long. The likes of Rashford, Onana, Luke Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof, Antony, Bruno Fernandes, Casemiro, Antony, Mount, Eriksen are all useless. They could lose them all and not be a worse team.

They need to be smart in the transfer window and build around the younger players like Yoro, Mainoo, Amad, Garnacho, Hojlund. Constantly changing the manager does nothing, it’s the players who have let down multiple managers.
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Liverpool is indeed at an advantageous point because they are now getting stronger with their consistent performance making them solid at the top of the standings, Their previous match managed to beat Tottenham making them stronger at the top of the standings. Their current performance is very good because previously they had difficulty being at the top of the standings but now they have eliminated one of the big teams in the top four of the Epl. Their chances of continuing to lead the standings I think are quite big, because one of the Epl Monster teams is currently in an unstable state, this gives them a chance and I think they have taken advantage of it well.
Absolutely true, Manchester city who are supposed to be the main contenders are unstable at the moment and seems not be ready to compete anytime soon thereby giving room for another suitable contender but I don't see any other team that would be able to match Liverpool in terms of competing for the title because arsenal tried against Manchester city twice and failed and Chelsea do not really look ready rather they seem like a team that only wants to secure a champions League spot, so it all depends on Liverpool's consistency if they want to win the EPL.
The halfway point of the season may be difficult but Mancehster City can still get back to a position where they can challenge for the championship when the transfer window opens.
They are still very much ahead financially although there are still many charges about FFP but they still remain one of the clubs that are difficult to tackle when player transfers are made.

I'm pretty sure Pep will do everything possible to restore their performance to normal including bringing in some players with the funds that have been prepared by management because after all it will be a blow in the end for Mancehster City and Pep when they are always a subscription in the championship or a strong candidate in the competition but this season ends tragically.

The players' mentality must be restored now because if not the situation will get worse for Pep and it could be that the contract extension he has signed will be destroyed this season because of poor performances that cannot be anticipated like this time.

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Manchester United will definitely have to support Ruben Amorim in getting the players he wants because it is obvious many of these players are not really ready to compete, while others just unreliable notably in the aspect of consistency.

Ten Hag did waste a alot of money, in trying to get the players  he wanted, while some of these players failed to cone close to expectations. The players fees are often leading to criticism when they can perform well or are far from their best. Although, we hope Ruben Amorim can make good use of the resources given to him.

Sadly, some of these players brought in by Erik ten Hag are doing well, yes? I see that the management are not ready to splash the cash to get new players during the transfer window upcoming. But won't that be a big shame? A left winger and attacker is what I would suggest they get so far so good. They don't need too much, they have to make sure they fight to be in the top dive clubs at the end of the season. Finally,  Amorim needs time and patience from fans.
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Unexpectedly, City continued to experience a series of defeats that made them even more depressed. Initially they led the standings drastically, their position continued to decline every week. With only 27 points, Man City is now perched in 7th place in the standings, and there is a possibility that their position will be shifted again by Newcastle or Fulham, because the points difference between the three teams is very small.

And for the next match in the near future, Man City will face Everton, and let's see what Man City can do when facing the bottom team.? Because this match should be an opportunity for Man City to return to victory.

Meanwhile, regarding Liverpool, they are indeed very superior and quite dominant for this season, but the draws they got in two consecutive matches have narrowed the points difference, and I hope Chelsea and Arsenal can take advantage of this momentum to further reduce the points difference



12 games, only 1 win and 9 losses...

Guardiola is completely right to be worried.  Sad  Just think about it. You have one of the best squads ever in Manchester City history. There are many stars available to bring success to you. But you just can't find a way out of this horrible form on one hand. Being desperate makes him more vulnerable. I really like Guardiola honestly. This is why I think he will come back from this situation and that comeback will be a great one.

But will it happen as of the Everton game? It is hard to tell. Even if they win at Etihad tomorrow, it is too difficult to believe in him to start a winning streak. They need to win a few games in a row to be more convincing.
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Manchester United are in transition and it will take time for Ruben Amorim to be able to build a team of his choice. We have seen flashes of brilliance from Ruben Amorim since his arrival at Manchester United, he has changed the atmosphere at the club. I think with time, Amorim will be able to get Manchester United back on track again.
Since Ruben Amorim joined Manchester United, there have been difference in the way Manchester United has been playing, I notice the players are now having confidence even as they haven’t been winning frequently, and they haven’t been able to leave the 13th position which they are, but from the way things are going, if Ruben Amorim is given the chance to sign the players which he wants, then there will be improvement in Manchester United’s performance, but we don’t just except sudden changes in how Manchester United are playing, it’s going to be a gradual process, so Ruben Amorim should be given time, Manchester United fans will have to be patient, because their won’t be instant changes in the club’s performance.

Manchester United will definitely have to support Ruben Amorim in getting the players he wants because it is obvious many of these players are not really ready to compete, while others just unreliable notably in the aspect of consistency.

Ten Hag did waste a alot of money, in trying to get the players  he wanted, while some of these players failed to cone close to expectations. The players fees are often leading to criticism when they can perform well or are far from their best. Although, we hope Ruben Amorim can make good use of the resources given to him.
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Whatever Amorim is doing to Man United, it's not working out. But, in his defence, he has to play with what he inherited after Ten Hag. He probably will be allowed to do some shopping in the winter transfer window, but if there's no visible improvement after that, he might be in trouble.
it's not the fault of the Manchester United coach that things are not working at the club at the moment, actually nothing is bound to work at Manchester united until the team is properly fixed and I thing the coach has emphasized that during one of his interviews with press, he also emphasized the absence of the right players in the squad which is one of the reasons the team is underperforming and a possible transformation of the entire squad if not an overhaul, so I see no reasons why anyone should blame Amorim for the poor performance of this Manchester united side for now, he should be given enough time just as the previous coaches.

At the very least, if Amorim doesn't make the expected improvements over the course of a season or two, then it's very likely that Amorim will end up being sacked as well as previous coaches. Although, I personally can still admit that Amorim is not bad at all sofar, because Amorim has not really fully formed a team with his selected players. Thus, Amorim still needs more time to really  be able to make Manchester United have good dominance in the Premier League. It is difficult, but if I think that Amorim is a great hope because of his success at Sporting, then at least Amorim can also make Manchester United  get some trophies.

Manchester United, because of having had many coaches in a short period of time, has suffered many changes in the squad, most of which were unnecessary, and this ended up destroying the entire team. Now, what needs to be done in my opinion is the following:

1 - The coach needs to identify the players in the current squad who are not performing well and assess whether they have any chance of improving or whether they should be sold urgently.

2 - Make a list of players that the team needs to sign in order to perform well.

3 - Spend 2 seasons focusing on organizing the team and not talking about fighting for the title. They should be honest so that the fans do not create high expectations.
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Manchester United is a traditional team and had good popularity in the past but in between several seasons they had poor performances due to which many people avoided watching Manchester United. But I think Manchester United are starting to recapture their golden past. We see a lot of discussion about Manchester United without performing well. That is, the former supporters of Manchester United have started following the game of Manchester United regularly again. Manchester United fans can only dream of good things for this club if they can keep up their performance as they are currently and if they can do even better next season.

When talking about popularity, even though the team rarely lifts trophies, Manchester United's popularity never fades, they are one of the clubs with the most supporters in the world, and they are very loyal even though the team they support often experiences decline and is only the subject of ridicule.

Every season and every time there is a change of coach or the entry of new players to Manchester United, fans hope that this will be an era of MU's revival. Yes, even though every season the results are zero, and even now for the European caste, Man United is only able to play in the UEFA Europa League. and I hope the team can rise soon, because they ((mancunian) have waited too long
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If there is no transfer window ahead, the manager cannot buy or sell any player at will. To be sure, the current manager of Manchester United is trying to do well with his former manager's favorite team. But I really didn't think that Manchester United returned to good performance as quickly as they did under this manager. I thought Manchester United's performance might not change much if they change manager this season but Manchester United have been able to improve their performance significantly under the new manager.
The man currently in charge of Manchester United may be doing his job right. Those who watch Manchester United matches regularly can tell the difference between this team. If there is no transfer window ahead, then the manager cannot sell any player at will or the manager can buy any player at will, you are right. But at present Manchester United need a skilled striker. As Manchester United have bounced back to good form at the moment, they will be looking to maintain a continuation of such performance in the future and try to maintain a continuation of good performance. The more time Manchester United's new coach spends with this team, the stronger this team will become.
Manchester United is a traditional team and had good popularity in the past but in between several seasons they had poor performances due to which many people avoided watching Manchester United. But I think Manchester United are starting to recapture their golden past. We see a lot of discussion about Manchester United without performing well. That is, the former supporters of Manchester United have started following the game of Manchester United regularly again. Manchester United fans can only dream of good things for this club if they can keep up their performance as they are currently and if they can do even better next season.

They're trying to recapture their golden past rather, with the steps they've taken so far, by restructuring several areas of the team, like management, youth team, so it's a welcome development that would benefit them in future. Well, the the Senior team section is yet to be fully restructured cause they're still in search of good players, most of the current players in the Senior team squad are either unfit mostly due to series of injury or finding it difficult to adapt into the pattern of the new coach.I've Manchester United's match on several occasion this season and I think that several players needs to leave for this team to get better, and when things get better most of the supporters that left to support other clubs due to frustration would start supporting the club again, they'll remembered those good old times and fall back to their root, Manchester United is a great team but they're not leaving up to the hype currently, things needs to get better. Anyways, I believe INEOS are working on something, they're doing their best to get the team to a better position, let's see how it plays out, if they'll succeed quicker.
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Absolutely true, Manchester city who are supposed to be the main contenders are unstable at the moment and seems not be ready to compete anytime soon thereby giving room for another suitable contender but I don't see any other team that would be able to match Liverpool in terms of competing for the title because arsenal tried against Manchester city twice and failed and Chelsea do not really look ready rather they seem like a team that only wants to secure a champions League spot, so it all depends on Liverpool's consistency if they want to win the EPL.

Unexpectedly, City continued to experience a series of defeats that made them even more depressed. Initially they led the standings drastically, their position continued to decline every week. With only 27 points, Man City is now perched in 7th place in the standings, and there is a possibility that their position will be shifted again by Newcastle or Fulham, because the points difference between the three teams is very small.

And for the next match in the near future, Man City will face Everton, and let's see what Man City can do when facing the bottom team.? Because this match should be an opportunity for Man City to return to victory.

Meanwhile, regarding Liverpool, they are indeed very superior and quite dominant for this season, but the draws they got in two consecutive matches have narrowed the points difference, and I hope Chelsea and Arsenal can take advantage of this momentum to further reduce the points difference
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Absolutely true, Manchester city who are supposed to be the main contenders are unstable at the moment and seems not be ready to compete anytime soon thereby giving room for another suitable contender but I don't see any other team that would be able to match Liverpool in terms of competing for the title because arsenal tried against Manchester city twice and failed and Chelsea do not really look ready rather they seem like a team that only wants to secure a champions League spot, so it all depends on Liverpool's consistency if they want to win the EPL.

Liverpool's current performance is going to give them the English Premier League trophy this season, given that there is no team that is strong enough and even going to be capable of defeating them. currently, unless Football does its own part because that is how it is, another club that we did not think would beat Liverpool may get that luck and do that. That is why I said I would unless football does its own. Manchester City's performance is really bad, and they are not even among the teams we should expect to compete for the title race because they are experiencing bad times.

Although you can’t say Arsenal tried against Manchester City and they failed, the same thing may not repeat itself anytime you know that, but just say Liverpool is in good condition, and with the look of things, they will be the winner this season.
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Manchester United are in transition and it will take time for Ruben Amorim to be able to build a team of his choice. We have seen flashes of brilliance from Ruben Amorim since his arrival at Manchester United, he has changed the atmosphere at the club. I think with time, Amorim will be able to get Manchester United back on track again.
Since Ruben Amorim joined Manchester United, there have been difference in the way Manchester United has been playing, I notice the players are now having confidence even as they haven’t been winning frequently, and they haven’t been able to leave the 13th position which they are, but from the way things are going, if Ruben Amorim is given the chance to sign the players which he wants, then there will be improvement in Manchester United’s performance, but we don’t just except sudden changes in how Manchester United are playing, it’s going to be a gradual process, so Ruben Amorim should be given time, Manchester United fans will have to be patient, because their won’t be instant changes in the club’s performance.
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Absolutely true, Manchester city who are supposed to be the main contenders are unstable at the moment and seems not be ready to compete anytime soon thereby giving room for another suitable contender but I don't see any other team that would be able to match Liverpool in terms of competing for the title because arsenal tried against Manchester city twice and failed and Chelsea do not really look ready rather they seem like a team that only wants to secure a champions League spot, so it all depends on Liverpool's consistency if they want to win the EPL.

You have a good point here, but still we are not supposed to underestimate any of those teams, most especially Chelsea and Arsenal. Because anything is capable of happening as far as football is concerned, most especially if you consider the performance of Chelsea, I know their performance doesn’t seem like they are ready to take the title, but I know if they see a good chance, they will be able to achieve that because no one is sure that Liverpool will be able to maintain their performance till the end of the season.

So then Chelsea might have a chance, but it will not be that assured to them due to consideration of Liverpool's performance this season, because they are playing more than we expected, so anything is capable of happening, but if Liverpool will still maintain their consistency, then I don’t think they will be ready to lose that title to any other team.
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If there is no transfer window ahead, the manager cannot buy or sell any player at will. To be sure, the current manager of Manchester United is trying to do well with his former manager's favorite team. But I really didn't think that Manchester United returned to good performance as quickly as they did under this manager. I thought Manchester United's performance might not change much if they change manager this season but Manchester United have been able to improve their performance significantly under the new manager.
The man currently in charge of Manchester United may be doing his job right. Those who watch Manchester United matches regularly can tell the difference between this team. If there is no transfer window ahead, then the manager cannot sell any player at will or the manager can buy any player at will, you are right. But at present Manchester United need a skilled striker. As Manchester United have bounced back to good form at the moment, they will be looking to maintain a continuation of such performance in the future and try to maintain a continuation of good performance. The more time Manchester United's new coach spends with this team, the stronger this team will become.
Manchester United is a traditional team and had good popularity in the past but in between several seasons they had poor performances due to which many people avoided watching Manchester United. But I think Manchester United are starting to recapture their golden past. We see a lot of discussion about Manchester United without performing well. That is, the former supporters of Manchester United have started following the game of Manchester United regularly again. Manchester United fans can only dream of good things for this club if they can keep up their performance as they are currently and if they can do even better next season.
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At the moment Liverpool seem invincible and they have been coming up with great results week in week out which is why they are at the top of the table. Against Tottenham Hotspur they played an extraordinary game which they won with a nine goal thriller which extended their lead,  though a lot of people have attributed Liverpool's dominance to Manchester city's sudden decline and they think Liverpool wouldn't have been where they are at the moment if Manchester city were playing well but it would only take some time before we know if Liverpool will continue to dominate or be displaced by another team.
Liverpool is indeed at an advantageous point because they are now getting stronger with their consistent performance making them solid at the top of the standings, Their previous match managed to beat Tottenham making them stronger at the top of the standings. Their current performance is very good because previously they had difficulty being at the top of the standings but now they have eliminated one of the big teams in the top four of the Epl. Their chances of continuing to lead the standings I think are quite big, because one of the Epl Monster teams is currently in an unstable state, this gives them a chance and I think they have taken advantage of it well.
Absolutely true, Manchester city who are supposed to be the main contenders are unstable at the moment and seems not be ready to compete anytime soon thereby giving room for another suitable contender but I don't see any other team that would be able to match Liverpool in terms of competing for the title because arsenal tried against Manchester city twice and failed and Chelsea do not really look ready rather they seem like a team that only wants to secure a champions League spot, so it all depends on Liverpool's consistency if they want to win the EPL.
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Manchester United's longing for quality players has turned out as a necessity for the club to have for them to verge for top positions for seasons to come. Amorim will be so happy if Manchester United provided the players he wants to be in the Manchester United squad.
Actually, when talking about the quality of Manchester United players, there are a lot of players who have good quality, it's just that in the end the individual quality does not guarantee performance because the problem is not the quality of the players but in terms of performance based on scheme errors or cooperation that is not well established from each player at this time.

We can see many good wonderkids like Dialo, Garnancho or some other players like Bruno or de Ligt who just came this season but in the end the performance remains the same so this is not about the problem of player quality in the end but how Manchester United manages the current players in order to achieve positive things, especially from the performance they have. It will be very useless if in the end they bring in players continuously but do not improve the scheme, teamwork and chemistry between the players as well as with the coach and management.
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Since Man United is already at a crossroads, it is better to fulfill Amorim desire to form a squad according to his criteria. Regarding the striker, until now no one has been able to find out who the candidate is who will fit the coacs format. Amorim also needs a cover in the back line, especially a defender who has the quality to intercept corner kicks. Because Onana often concedes more goals from corner kicks.
There are many good players who can't perform in Manchester United, if we talk about defender, take a look with De Ligt. He's a matured player, was perform in Ajax, Juventus and Bayern Munich, but when he joined Manchester United, his performance is like a mediocre player.

It might be the reason why many great players avoid to play in Manchester United, their career are at risk.

Not only the career of soccer players may be threatened when playing at Manchester United, because the coach's career is also threatened by ending with dismissal.Thus, it is certainly a necessity for Manchester United to be ready to spend more money,  ofcourse, to fully support the coach's plans with the players of his choice. I personally don't know for sure  about which players are really  needed for Amorim's plans, because it seems  that every time Manchester United has a new coach, there are many new players who will be brought in. But yes,hopefully Amorim really chooses the right players to be able to improve Manchester United's performance  in the second half of this season.
Manchester United has undergone several coaching changes since Ferguson retired, but none of these coaches are considered successful in restoring the glory of the red devils, Ten Hag previously continued to recruit players from the Netherlands and ajax to strengthen his squad but the changes he made failed, even now Amorim  also rumoured to be making many changes in his squad by removing and recruiting several players later, Indeed, it seems that it is a positive thing, but on the other hand, too many changes only disrupt the stability of the team later, besides that, with recruiting many new players that's has shows if amorim inability to optimise the ability of existing players, so maybe later some parties will think if Nistelrooy previously is more able to optimise the existing squad than amorim today.

Amorim does not have a magic wand in his hand. Whoever takes charge of this team will not be better.
During Ferguson's time, Manchester United formed the backbone of the English National Team and Ferguson managed that team very well, which is why they achieved great success.
No manager who came later could be successful.
Manu, who has been patient for almost 2 years for TenHag, will give Amorim enough chances.
Transfers from the goal to many important areas are absolutely necessary.
There are many players who do not deserve to play in Manu.
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Since Man United is already at a crossroads, it is better to fulfill Amorim desire to form a squad according to his criteria. Regarding the striker, until now no one has been able to find out who the candidate is who will fit the coacs format. Amorim also needs a cover in the back line, especially a defender who has the quality to intercept corner kicks. Because Onana often concedes more goals from corner kicks.
There are many good players who can't perform in Manchester United, if we talk about defender, take a look with De Ligt. He's a matured player, was perform in Ajax, Juventus and Bayern Munich, but when he joined Manchester United, his performance is like a mediocre player.

It might be the reason why many great players avoid to play in Manchester United, their career are at risk.

Not only the career of soccer players may be threatened when playing at Manchester United, because the coach's career is also threatened by ending with dismissal.Thus, it is certainly a necessity for Manchester United to be ready to spend more money,  ofcourse, to fully support the coach's plans with the players of his choice. I personally don't know for sure  about which players are really  needed for Amorim's plans, because it seems  that every time Manchester United has a new coach, there are many new players who will be brought in. But yes,hopefully Amorim really chooses the right players to be able to improve Manchester United's performance  in the second half of this season.
Manchester United has undergone several coaching changes since Ferguson retired, but none of these coaches are considered successful in restoring the glory of the red devils, Ten Hag previously continued to recruit players from the Netherlands and ajax to strengthen his squad but the changes he made failed, even now Amorim  also rumoured to be making many changes in his squad by removing and recruiting several players later, Indeed, it seems that it is a positive thing, but on the other hand, too many changes only disrupt the stability of the team later, besides that, with recruiting many new players that's has shows if amorim inability to optimise the ability of existing players, so maybe later some parties will think if Nistelrooy previously is more able to optimise the existing squad than amorim today.
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it's not the fault of the Manchester United coach that things are not working at the club at the moment, actually nothing is bound to work at Manchester united until the team is properly fixed and I thing the coach has emphasized that during one of his interviews with press, he also emphasized the absence of the right players in the squad which is one of the reasons the team is underperforming and a possible transformation of the entire squad if not an overhaul, so I see no reasons why anyone should blame Amorim for the poor performance of this Manchester united side for now, he should be given enough time just as the previous coaches.

Sometime the coach also contributes because the success of a club lies in how it is been managed if it is properly managed they it will succeed for sure and look at Chelsea they have sacked how many coaches now and they have been getting it right so if Manchester United want to get it right they must be ready to get a better coach that will be able to give the club a good management and ten was not doing a great job and I actually support is sack because the club was not yielding any profit at all so ot is better he goes to another club to use is strategy but as for Manchester United they deserve another. The coach might be making the right comment of not having sufficient players and if they can make provision for that and the performance does not improve then there is going to be enough problems, and the coach needs serious selection of players so as to make the club perform better.

No club can do well without having a better coach. The 70% success of a club relies on the coach. Even if a club has better players, with no good coach to manage them, they will hardly achieve anything. But even if a club has average players, with a good coach who is tactically sound, the club can reach a successful level.

For example, just look at Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest. Currently, their players are average, but they are performing better than Manchester United or Tottenham, who have better players than them. In fact, a good coach can transform average players into great players who are well recognized. On the other hand, even if the players are good, without a good manager, their performance will surely decline.

As you said, let’s look at Chelsea's performance currently compared to when Pochettino was their manager. It is the same set of players who were there under Pochettino that are still there under Enzo Maresca, but their performances under Enzo Maresca are great.
When you talk about performance in football also include consistency, for the fact that a particular Club has been outstanding for some few months that doesn't mean they will maintain the same pace in the next six to seven months. So for me let's see how far Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest can go, before I start making conclusions.

As for coaches that are newly appointed and are making use of existing players in creating difference from the previous result they had from a former coach, one thing you should understand is the fact that, hence a new manager is in a team, every player is at the top of his game to make sure that he does not fall into the wrong books of that coach, so they bring out their best at that moment, However most coaches try to do trial and error for a period of time in terms of tactics until he finds a suitable team among the array of players he has, but the sustainability of the good results is what we are looking out for, not just shining for a certain period and then go back to status quo.
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