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The match has been going on for 10 minutes but United have to be behind by 1 goal even though the match has only been going on for 2 minutes. Nottingham managed to take the lead thanks to 1 goal made by Nikola Milenkovic.
Not a good start to the match for United, but the match is still quite long and they are currently dominating the match with ball possession. If Nottingham manages to beat United this time, then they will get a pretty good position in the standings.
Nottingham Forest football team played well in last match and that match was exciting and that team did 3 goals in this match . I am very impressed by the performance of Nottingham Forest team players.  Milenković did goal at 2 minutes of the match and after we saw goal from Manchester United team and that team players tried to do goal at 18 minutes and they became successful to do goal at 18 minutes.
Gibbs-White did goal at 47 minutes of the match and after we saw one more goal from Manchester United team player and he did goal at 61 minutes of the match.  The  possession percentage of Manchester United team was excellent and that was 72 percent but that team could not win this match.
Manchester United should not have lost this match with the way Manchester United performed against Nottingham Forest. As long as I watched this match, I felt that Manchester United would win this match by a big margin, but Manchester United did well in all areas, but they did not finish well at all. Manchester United had more of the ball in their possession and attacked better but they couldn't finish the way they should have done. This is the first time Manchester United have lost a match since the new manager took over, although most of the matches they have played since taking over have gone in Manchester United's favour. But in terms of opponents, Nottingham Forest was an easy opponent for Manchester United, but against this easy opponent they failed to win, of course it is a minus point for them.
Manchester United performed extremely well, but half of the blame for me will go to Onana, though the first goal was not his fault as it was a header, but the second goal and the third goal are balls he could easily have saved, he has saved balls that are more dangerous than that, but yet he wasn't smart enough to save those two goals. The way Nottingham forest where scoring Manchester United affected the moral of the players, it was as if, whenever they where fighting for a comeback, those goals weakens them, and it was all a struggle to Equalise till the game ended 3-2 in favour of Nottingham forest.
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What a game that was man!  Grin  I was really shocked when Tottenham brought it to 2-0 in only 10 minutes. But it was such a strong mentality by Chelsea. Palmer scored both of them by penalties maybe but the second one was a lovely panenka. He is a big talent and I hope Chelsea manages to keep him at the team for long years.

After Hazard he is like the next superstar of Chelsea.  Smiley  Hazard's career didn't end well though. Hopefully Palmer stays away from injuries. By the way Chelsea are moving on with the 2nd position in the standings.
This has to be the most entertaining game of the weekend. Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea gave us a show. I loved they way Chelsea remained calm in spite of the pressure and were able to turn the tide around and ended up winning the match from a 2 goals down. It was a great performance from Cole Palmer, he’s been a joy to watch ever since he joined Chelsea. Palmer contributes to both goals and assists to help his club to where they are now. Their performance against Tottenham was a good one. I hope they can build on the momentum and continue to move ahead.
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The match has been going on for 10 minutes but United have to be behind by 1 goal even though the match has only been going on for 2 minutes. Nottingham managed to take the lead thanks to 1 goal made by Nikola Milenkovic.
Not a good start to the match for United, but the match is still quite long and they are currently dominating the match with ball possession. If Nottingham manages to beat United this time, then they will get a pretty good position in the standings.
Nottingham Forest football team played well in last match and that match was exciting and that team did 3 goals in this match . I am very impressed by the performance of Nottingham Forest team players.  Milenković did goal at 2 minutes of the match and after we saw goal from Manchester United team and that team players tried to do goal at 18 minutes and they became successful to do goal at 18 minutes.
Gibbs-White did goal at 47 minutes of the match and after we saw one more goal from Manchester United team player and he did goal at 61 minutes of the match.  The  possession percentage of Manchester United team was excellent and that was 72 percent but that team could not win this match.
Manchester United should not have lost this match with the way Manchester United performed against Nottingham Forest. As long as I watched this match, I felt that Manchester United would win this match by a big margin, but Manchester United did well in all areas, but they did not finish well at all. Manchester United had more of the ball in their possession and attacked better but they couldn't finish the way they should have done. This is the first time Manchester United have lost a match since the new manager took over, although most of the matches they have played since taking over have gone in Manchester United's favour. But in terms of opponents, Nottingham Forest was an easy opponent for Manchester United, but against this easy opponent they failed to win, of course it is a minus point for them.
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Does this indicate that Man United will be very active in the January transfer window? because if he doesn't get rid of some of those slackers then Amorim will just complain about the same thing over and over again. However, it is clearly not easy to release players to other clubs because the biggest problem is that they get big salaries at Manchester United, so they may not be willing to leave if the club that wants to sign them cannot meet their demands.
This assumption indicates that he asked the management to bring in several new players in the January transfer market, Then what about the positive results achieved during Van Nistelrooy tenure as interim coach, didn't he also handle the same squad?
In my opinion, what is happening in the Man United squad at the moment depends on the coach's ability to formulate strategies. Van Nistelrooy managed to win Man United well, he managed to lead Manchester United to three wins and only one draw in four matches.

His impressive record also continued after handling Leicester City, he managed to lead Leicester unbeaten in two matches, this result was an extraordinary achievement for Van Nistelrooy because Leicester had experienced a six-match winless streak across competitions before he was appointed as the head coach.
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Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.



It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending.  Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad.  Cheesy Cheesy

He's indirectly telling the board that the task they're giving him can't be carried out successfully with this current squad and it you observe you'll see that it’s not about the formation or his strategy but some Manchester United players are not up to his standards and needs to leave to suitable players to come in, Amorin's strategy needs players that are mostly fit through the season and are capable of working hard and running to and fro the pitch without getting exhausted for the full 90 mins but this current squad is filled with lots of lazy players that barely mark their opponents properly and gives out the ball easily, which would not work. Well it’s good they've improved in goal scoring unlike before but i think the board new to change their stands concerning the January transfer window, Amorin needs new players he can trust, in some strategic areas to be able to finish in the top 4 this season.

That's the correct point. Amorim has indicated that he's not feeling confident with the current squad and doesn't meet his expectation. He's signalling INEOS to give him actual transfer like what he wanted. He tried his best with the current squad, but too many mediocre players in the squad.

There are lots of changes have to be made to his current roster now. I'm doubting this can be done in a short time.

Does this indicate that Man United will be very active in the January transfer window? because if he doesn't get rid of some of those slackers then Amorim will just complain about the same thing over and over again. However, it is clearly not easy to release players to other clubs because the biggest problem is that they get big salaries at Manchester United, so they may not be willing to leave if the club that wants to sign them cannot meet their demands.
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What a game that was man!  Grin  I was really shocked when Tottenham brought it to 2-0 in only 10 minutes. But it was such a strong mentality by Chelsea. Palmer scored both of them by penalties maybe but the second one was a lovely panenka. He is a big talent and I hope Chelsea manages to keep him at the team for long years.

After Hazard he is like the next superstar of Chelsea.  Smiley  Hazard's career didn't end well though. Hopefully Palmer stays away from injuries. By the way Chelsea are moving on with the 2nd position in the standings.
I'm particularly impressed with Chelsea performance, even before the match started I told people around that Tottenham can't stop Chelsea and it went exactly as predicted. Having watched Tottenham and Chelsea matches over the years, I have realised that, even if Chelsea are in their worst moment, they hardly fall to Tottenham. Not even now that Chelsea are playing exciting football and scoring goals for fun. I like the mentality of this present Chelsea squad, even when they were two goals down, they didn't allow that to affect their mood. If it were last season, Chelsea would have found it difficult to come back from two goals down to win the match. This is to show that Enzo Maresca has really transformed the fortune of this club in just a space of few months. Liverpool should better get ready because Chelsea is coming for the top spot. Let's just be hopeful that the busy schedules of December doesn't disrupt the flow of the team. If Chelsea don't have any serious injuries this December, Chelsea will give Liverpool a good fight.
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Arsenal dropped 2 points away to Fulham. Fulham took the lead in the 11th minute but didn't play very well and couldn't defend it. Arsenal scored the equalizer in the second half, but it could have gone in their favor. They were a bit unlucky.
Ipswich, on the other hand, lost the game with second-half goals after leading at half-time. They are one of the teams that will most probably say goodbye to the league. It looks like they won't be able to stay in the league for long.
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Amorim has to deal with the squad with full of inept players. No doubt he's fucking struggle to help them climbing up back again. Too many average players in this squad, and they have none who can at least to carry the club alone.
Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.



It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending.  Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad.  Cheesy Cheesy

He's indirectly telling the board that the task they're giving him can't be carried out successfully with this current squad and it you observe you'll see that it’s not about the formation or his strategy but some Manchester United players are not up to his standards and needs to leave to suitable players to come in, Amorin's strategy needs players that are mostly fit through the season and are capable of working hard and running to and fro the pitch without getting exhausted for the full 90 mins but this current squad is filled with lots of lazy players that barely mark their opponents properly and gives out the ball easily, which would not work. Well it’s good they've improved in goal scoring unlike before but i think the board new to change their stands concerning the January transfer window, Amorin needs new players he can trust, in some strategic areas to be able to finish in the top 4 this season.

That's the correct point. Amorim has indicated that he's not feeling confident with the current squad and doesn't meet his expectation. He's signalling INEOS to give him actual transfer like what he wanted. He tried his best with the current squad, but too many mediocre players in the squad.

There are lots of changes have to be made to his current roster now. I'm doubting this can be done in a short time.
Well, such feat as a total overhaul of the Manchester united squad is not something that can be done in a very short time, and maybe I will be wrong but personally, I believe that Amorim isn't even interested in winning the Premier league title this season, he is possibly using this session as a training ground for his squad and like we see he has pointed out, he is not yet satisfied with the current squad he plays with.

The man to me looks serious and determined to make good impact in Manchester united, and if given the chance and opportunities he requires, Manchester united may become a tough and top performing club in the coming seasons, but all the same, lets see what happens next, possibly he is going to be changing players ones the opportunity comes.
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Amorim has to deal with the squad with full of inept players. No doubt he's fucking struggle to help them climbing up back again. Too many average players in this squad, and they have none who can at least to carry the club alone.
Amorim felt that his team was incompetent because they were lazy to fight and lacked motivation to achieve victory, this situation made it difficult for him to build a solid squad because there was no chemistry with the players. Amorim must be able to form a starting XI that has a mission to always achieve victory, he must utilize the January transfer market to bring in several players who are considered able to help the team out of the slump. He still has time to make Manchester United one of the teams that can compete in the top six, but he needs support from the team management.



It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending.  Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad.  Cheesy Cheesy

He's indirectly telling the board that the task they're giving him can't be carried out successfully with this current squad and it you observe you'll see that it’s not about the formation or his strategy but some Manchester United players are not up to his standards and needs to leave to suitable players to come in, Amorin's strategy needs players that are mostly fit through the season and are capable of working hard and running to and fro the pitch without getting exhausted for the full 90 mins but this current squad is filled with lots of lazy players that barely mark their opponents properly and gives out the ball easily, which would not work. Well it’s good they've improved in goal scoring unlike before but i think the board new to change their stands concerning the January transfer window, Amorin needs new players he can trust, in some strategic areas to be able to finish in the top 4 this season.

That's the correct point. Amorim has indicated that he's not feeling confident with the current squad and doesn't meet his expectation. He's signalling INEOS to give him actual transfer like what he wanted. He tried his best with the current squad, but too many mediocre players in the squad.

There are lots of changes have to be made to his current roster now. I'm doubting this can be done in a short time.
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I thought Chelsea would be an ordinary team after Abramovic, but they are doing very good things as a team this year.
Enzo Maresca makes the team play very good football.
They were able to win the match 3-4 after falling behind 2-0 in the Tottenham match yesterday.
They have only lost two games in the league, one of which was City's first game of the season and the other was away to Liverpool.
They beat lower and middle row teams very easily.
Let's see how far Chelsea will take this performance.
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What a game that was man!  Grin  I was really shocked when Tottenham brought it to 2-0 in only 10 minutes. But it was such a strong mentality by Chelsea. Palmer scored both of them by penalties maybe but the second one was a lovely panenka. He is a big talent and I hope Chelsea manages to keep him at the team for long years.

After Hazard he is like the next superstar of Chelsea.  Smiley  Hazard's career didn't end well though. Hopefully Palmer stays away from injuries. By the way Chelsea are moving on with the 2nd position in the standings.
Great game for a Sunday night, to be honest after 2-0 I had big doubts that Chelsea would win this game, but they did everything for it. I admire how Maresca was able to change the team, yes he had a lot of resources for this, but before his arrival Chelsea could not progress like that with any coach, now I am ready to admit that Boehly made the right decision when he appointed Maresca as the head coach of Chelsea. And now it seems that we have an intrigue, will Chelsea be able to catch Liverpool and compete with them?
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It looks like the grass on Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is slick enough to make Cucurella slip at the beginning. Enzo Maresca was also frustrated when look defender very neglected to block the way.
So far, Jadon Sancho, Enzo Fernades and Cole Palmer played very well tonight they deserve an 8 out of 10 score for their role to get the winning. I think the winning not just the role of one person, but all the team which working together.
Hazard is legend on Chelsea, but I think palmer can't be compared to him yet before he got the tittle on premier league.


Cucurella had a problem with his shoes and I'm afraid it cost Chelsea 2 goals at the beginning already. He already became the main topic for football memes after that.  Tongue  But the dedication by Chelsea players was great indeed. About Palmer's comparison to Hazard, yeah maybe it is still early for that. But his performance and taking responsibility since the day he joined just makes me very excited.



It must be really disappointing for Arsenal fans to lose points on this week. Fulham were doing good in the league but Arsenal still needed to win for title chase. I think the main need of Arsenal for a Premier League title is to sign a reliable striker.  Smiley
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A red card received by one of Manchester City's players after receiving a second yellow card made Manchester City's chances of scoring a goal even more difficult. That's what made the difference in the game in this match despite the slump that is currently hitting Manchester City.
The final whistle has been blown and the result has not changed 2-2. Manchester City even though they are one player short, they still dominate.

Manchester City's struggles remain the same, even though they had ten men throughout the game, I doubt they would be able to win since they would have to concede a goal before equalizing against Crystal Palace. I wasn't expecting Manchester City to have a difficult game against Crystal Palace after congratulating them in the midweek game against Nottingham Forest. Since Nottingham Forest was in a good league position and still lost to Manchester City, I assumed Guardiola would have a two game winning record, but they conceded a goal in the first four minutes of the match.

Furthermore, Manchester City's performance against Crystal Palace was quite poor, aside from dominating ball possession, they had 12 shots with 4 of them on target, and Crystal Palace had 12 shots with 3 of them on target. Guardiola also believed that they would struggle this season, I am sure that Manchester City is only fighting for a spot in the top four.
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It's very clear Amorim hinted his club was not running enough like what he expected. He has too many lazy players in his squad. His attackers were so damn lazy help in defending.  Meanwhile his defenders are also too often made human errors. This is why i think he wanted players who can perform like an engine.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's obvious he's not satisfied with his current squad.  Cheesy Cheesy
Explain to me how players can be said to be lazy and reluctant to fight? they may still need a deeper adaptation to the tactics of the new coach I am sure Manchester United still has a pretty good squad, it's just that their abilities have not been honed well with their best version, but this could also be a lack of compatibility between the coach and the players, Amorim does need to make changes that suit his character he can take advantage of the transfer window next month if management allows him to shop for the players he needs.
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Seeing Cole Palmer almost single handedly wining games for Chelsea is an interesting thing and Chelsea will never regret of Cole Palmer transfer deal from Manchester City,  and Guardiola must have regretted of selling such a young star player to Chelsea, watching his performances since after Joining Chelsea and under his watching, Manchester City is now crumbling. Cole Palmers deal is the best forward player deal or player replacement for Eden Hazard position that Chelsea has nailed since after Hazard's departure from Chelsea.
Actually I don't want to agree with this statement, it's just that this is a reality where in this match Palmer took an extraordinary role even with the state of players who seemed ordinary Palmer was able to conjure Chelsea to play very well in this match.

There are so many things that are difficult to avoid because looking at the player's performance, Tottenham is actually much better if Chelsea doesn't have Palmer. There was nothing impressive about Chelsea's game even seeing 2 goals in the first 11 minutes that happened due to the mistakes of their defenders.

But it did change and 2 goals albeit from penalties makes Palmer now a tremendous asset and until now for Chelsea this is the best purchase in the Todd era.
I had wondered about Palmer's long contract but now I understand why his contract has been extended until 2033.

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What a game that was man!  Grin  I was really shocked when Tottenham brought it to 2-0 in only 10 minutes. But it was such a strong mentality by Chelsea. Palmer scored both of them by penalties maybe but the second one was a lovely panenka. He is a big talent and I hope Chelsea manages to keep him at the team for long years.

After Hazard he is like the next superstar of Chelsea.  Smiley  Hazard's career didn't end well though. Hopefully Palmer stays away from injuries. By the way Chelsea are moving on with the 2nd position in the standings.
Tactical play was shown by both teams, Tottenham tried to disrupt Chelsea's mentality by taking a quick lead early in the first half. Chelsea tried to fight back by reducing the score in the 17th minute so that the first half ended with a score of 2-1 for the home team's advantage.
In the second half, Chelsea got 3 additional goals to turn things around to 4-2, it was extraordinary because they could rise. Tottenham tried to catch up but they could only create 1 goal which was not enough to make them get points.
Indeed, from the record of meetings, Chelsea always has a way to win from Tottenham even though they play away and they did it again in this match.
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What a game that was man!  Grin  I was really shocked when Tottenham brought it to 2-0 in only 10 minutes. But it was such a strong mentality by Chelsea. Palmer scored both of them by penalties maybe but the second one was a lovely panenka. He is a big talent and I hope Chelsea manages to keep him at the team for long years.
From being 2 goals behind, they managed to score 4 goals, an extraordinary comeback by Chelsea at Tottenham headquarters. This victory not only brought joy to Chelsea players and fans, Cole Palmer also set 2 records at once in the match. He became the most successful penalty taker in EPL history and broke Yaya Toure record, In addition, he also broke Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink record as the Chelsea player with the most goal contributions in a calendar year.

Cole Palmer Panenka penalty moment surpassed Yaya Toure record of 11 out of 11 penalties.

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Arsenal dominated the game, but their attack was awful. They controlled the whole game, though looked so struggling to score. It surprised me it happens with them, though they played with Ode and Saka. They performance is just declining so hard, and played differently like they used to.

They were very underperforming considering they scored lower than their xG. Holy shit a surprise from Fulham they overachieved their xG. Glad to see that Arsenal is once again missing point, and they can continue to repeat it in their upcoming games.

Arsenal looked so toothless in this game. I see nothing surprse when they keep missing more points.

There is no doubt that Arsenal played great. They tried hard to score. Arsenal completely dominated the match along with attacking a lot. This was Fulham's home match. Fulham was able to win their last match against Brighton as well. We usually see Fulham playing defensively. However, Fulham's counter-attacks are very sharp. In the match against Brighton, we also saw that Fulham's players were able to make only 6 shots. However, Fulham won the match 3-1. Fulham played defensively against Arsenal and managed to get 1 point.

Both Arsenal and Manchester City's performances are now erratic. These two teams are in third and fourth place in the points table. Arsenal and Manchester City are not able to dominate the Premier League this season. So far, the performances of these two teams have been erratic. If their performances in the upcoming matches are not stronger, it will be difficult for City and Arsenal to even stay in the top four of the table. Brighton, Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa are playing quite well this season.
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After losing points in a few consecutive matches, Arsenal won their last two matches against West Ham and Manchester United. After winning this match, we thought that Arsenal was back on track. Now, perhaps this team will fight for the title again. But we were wrong. Arsenal stumbled again in today's match against Fulham. Arsenal failed to win the away match against Fulham.

Arsenal dominated the match. Arsenal players tried hard to score. But Fulham was very tactical in this match. Fulham took the lead by scoring a goal in just 11 minutes of the match. And even then, Fulham played poorly defensively. They did not try to score any more goals. Fulham players were able to make only 2 shots in the entire match. Fulham's target was to end the match 1-0 or 1-1. And they were able to get 1 point from the match.



Arsenal dominated the game, but their attack was awful. They controlled the whole game, though looked so struggling to score. It surprised me it happens with them, though they played with Ode and Saka. They performance is just declining so hard, and played differently like they used to.

They were very underperforming considering they scored lower than their xG. Holy shit a surprise from Fulham they overachieved their xG. Glad to see that Arsenal is once again missing point, and they can continue to repeat it in their upcoming games.

Arsenal looked so toothless in this game. I see nothing surprse when they keep missing more points.
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What a game that was man!  Grin  I was really shocked when Tottenham brought it to 2-0 in only 10 minutes. But it was such a strong mentality by Chelsea. Palmer scored both of them by penalties maybe but the second one was a lovely panenka. He is a big talent and I hope Chelsea manages to keep him at the team for long years.

After Hazard he is like the next superstar of Chelsea.  Smiley  Hazard's career didn't end well though. Hopefully Palmer stays away from injuries. By the way Chelsea are moving on with the 2nd position in the standings.
It looks like the grass on Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is slick enough to make Cucurella slip at the beginning. Enzo Maresca was also frustrated when look defender very neglected to block the way.
So far, Jadon Sancho, Enzo Fernades and Cole Palmer played very well tonight they deserve an 8 out of 10 score for their role to get the winning. I think the winning not just the role of one person, but all the team which working together.
Hazard is legend on Chelsea, but I think palmer can't be compared to him yet before he got the tittle on premier league.
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