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Quote from: MK-74 on September 14, 2024, 05:49:24 PM

Liverpool suffered their first defeat against Nottingham Forest. Points lost to easy opponents are very important, they can cost them the championship.

M.City continues to win and are currently first in the league.

M.United won 3-0 but this is a win against the worst team in the league right now.
I still think Erik ten Hag is an unsuccessful manager.

When I saw the odd of Liverpool to win Nottingham Forest, I knew something was wrong somewhere. For Liverpool that hasn't lost a game in their first 3 games to have such odd I knew something was cooking. I concluded that the game might end in a draw, but I never knew it was going to be a barring draw. To be on a safer side I place the bet both team to score. Although I wasn't too convinced that the match will end in a draw, so I saw both teams scores as a more realistic outcome. But it was very surprising to me that Liverpool couldn't score a goal in anfield, against Nottingham Forest team. Judging by how Liverpool has been hot since the start of the season, it was indeed a disappointing result for the anfield faithful. Nottingham Forest was able to claim a win for the first time in anfield after 55 years. It was indeed a sad day for Liverpool fans. Nottingham Forest has officially welcomed Arne Slot to the premier league.

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Disappointing outcome for Arne Slot and his boys right at home in front of the crowd of supporters roaring in the Anfield stadium. This is Nottingham Forest first win in Anfield in 55 years. Who would have thought Nottingham Forest would be able to pull off such a historic win today. Arne Slot will not be happy to be remembered as the manager who ended the streak. He’s been very critical of the players after the game:

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The result frustrates me the most and we cannot be happy about how the game went. It was a stop-start game and we hardly created any chances. We only have to look at ourselves, we have to be better. Far too many times we lost the ball around the area, it was not good enough. We have to be better with the ball.

Our decisions and execution wasn't good enough. In general we defended quite well but the two fast players came on and made it difficult. We took a lot of risk and in the end it was a very good goal.

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There's another surprising result besides Liverpool losing against Nottingham. Brighton failed to win against Ipswich. I think that Brighton is one of the best playing teams in the Premier League and they will be competing for a place in Top 7. It's weird that the manager of Brighton is younger than some of his footballers. Maybe he will have a bright future as the next Jurgen Klopp or Jose Mourinho.
Another defeat for Everton. 3-2 against Aston Vila. I really hope that the blue team from Liverpool won't go to Championship in the next season. Man City, Man United and Chelsea didn't impress me, but they've won their matches and gathered 3 points.
I expect easy wins for Arsenal against Tottenham and for Newcastle against Wolverhampton.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 15, 2024, 12:31:34 AM

With your statement, maybe Manchester United is lucky because they were able to win their match against Southampton, I agree with you that they did win their match but their performance still feels lacking and it seems like they are not ready to compete with other big teams, besides that Manchester United is very lucky because they were able to ward off the penalty kick that was obtained by Southampton. Many say that Manchester United should immediately replace their coach and I think maybe some of the Red Devils fans also have that thought, but maybe now is not the time for that because Ten Hag is still holding on and maybe wants to make Manchester United successful under his guidance.

No, I would not judge Man United as lucky in this match. Although I am not a MU fan and also dislike Ten Hag a little, but indeed Man United still has a very good striker. And regarding Onana who successfully thwarted the penalty kick by Southampton, actually it was not luck but Onana actually has good talent. It's just that Man United defense is still very weak and this is a problem that is currently being fixed by Ten Hag. We'll see when MU is able to improve the performance of the defense players, I'm sure Man United will perform even better.

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Quote from: Makus on September 14, 2024, 04:55:30 PM

Today might be victorious for Manchester United, but with their performance during the first half its obvious they are not yet ready to return to their former glory as one of EPL title competitors. They might have won the game but their performance was very poor, thanks to Andre Onana who saved the penalty from Archer else, Southampton would have been inspired to do more and that would definitely lead to the red losing the game. Well I think casemiro changes was made at the right time and once again he prove himself useful unlike the previous game were his performance was rated to be out of form. But the fact that ten hag hasn't been making the signing decisions is another topic to be discussed because, that has also been affecting the games.

With your statement, maybe Manchester United is lucky because they were able to win their match against Southampton, I agree with you that they did win their match but their performance still feels lacking and it seems like they are not ready to compete with other big teams, besides that Manchester United is very lucky because they were able to ward off the penalty kick that was obtained by Southampton. Many say that Manchester United should immediately replace their coach and I think maybe some of the Red Devils fans also have that thought, but maybe now is not the time for that because Ten Hag is still holding on and maybe wants to make Manchester United successful under his guidance.

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Even though Chelsea struggled so much before the win came so lately it really means a lot to the team by making them unbeaten in the last three league matches, while Bournemouth has also struggled to have won only one match since the starting of the season, it was a terrifying and intensive game between the both teams but Chelsea had to made away with the winning lately which Robert Sanchez made it a reality for the blues as man of the match.

Another interesting game that is going to be as hot as this is Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal, indeed it is a clash especially after the international duties, the least I could say now is that Tottenham playing at their home might becomes an advantage but their there is higher chances of seeing both teams to score in the game and the same might likely happen too in the wolves and Newcastle game today.

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Quote from: MK-74 on September 14, 2024, 05:49:24 PM

Liverpool suffered their first defeat against Nottingham Forest. Points lost to easy opponents are very important, they can cost them the championship.

M.City continues to win and are currently first in the league.

M.United won 3-0 but this is a win against the worst team in the league right now.
I still think Erik ten Hag is an unsuccessful manager.

Seriously this was a heavy blow for Liverpool, Manchester city are looking like an Alien team which are hard to stop and for any team to get the tittle off them that team might have to play their hearts out like each game is the final. Liverpool with Arsenal are the two clubs many have thought will be the challengers. Liverpool started the season in a perfect way and haven’t even conceded losing today is a serious draw back considering that the co challengers have won their own game. Nottingham Forest have usually been a little nightmare to Liverpool when it matters most just like the way Brentford are usually a very difficult fixture for Manchester city. Now is the real test for Arne slot, sometimes it is not about winning alone but how you also pick yourself up from defeat to re start again.

Manchester United on the other hand a bit luck and Little effort to win, they could have been behind so early thanks to the bad penalty by Archer and a very good double save by onana, overall some united players were excellent but as a team they still look a little uncoordinated and against a better club today they would be in trouble

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Liverpool suffered their first defeat against Nottingham Forest. Points lost to easy opponents are very important, they can cost them the championship.

M.City continues to win and are currently first in the league.

M.United won 3-0 but this is a win against the worst team in the league right now.
I still think Erik ten Hag is an unsuccessful manager.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on September 14, 2024, 04:35:32 PM

I think we have seen the best of Erik Ten Hag. Last season may be his best season managing Manchester United. ETH is the one that signed all the players at Manchester United aside from Garnacho and Mainoo who came from the academy. Casemiro who is being criticized by United fans is ETH signing. Half of the players are either his boys from Ajax or Dutch players. ETH has spent over 700m pounds. If you’re spending all this money and you’re the person doing all these signings, there is no excuse why you’re not winning games.

Making signings, ETH should send out appropriate scouts out there. Winning comes from the cooperation of the players and also the coach, who also plays major role in the progress and growth of the team. It's a competitive race for Manchester United and they have to put things right for themselves. Winning games are more responsibility for the manager who's incharged. Manchester United are strong enough regarding their standards and this is will ruined their reputation as top club in EPL. Erik Ten Hag have poor stats when it comes to making signings for Manchester United. This is exceptionally weigh out of the line for the club.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on September 14, 2024, 04:35:32 PM

I think we have seen the best of Erik Ten Hag. Last season may be his best season managing Manchester United. ETH is the one that signed all the players at Manchester United aside from Garnacho and Mainoo who came from the academy. Casemiro who is being criticized by United fans is ETH signing. Half of the players are either his boys from Ajax or Dutch players. ETH has spent over 700m pounds. If you’re spending all this money and you’re the person doing all these signings, there is no excuse why you’re not winning games.

Today might be victorious for Manchester United, but with their performance during the first half its obvious they are not yet ready to return to their former glory as one of EPL title competitors. They might have won the game but their performance was very poor, thanks to Andre Onana who saved the penalty from Archer else, Southampton would have been inspired to do more and that would definitely lead to the red losing the game. Well I think casemiro changes was made at the right time and once again he prove himself useful unlike the previous game were his performance was rated to be out of form. But the fact that ten hag hasn't been making the signing decisions is another topic to be discussed because, that has also been affecting the games.

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Je pushes ghe blame of poor performance on the players so tell me how will he imlrove when he is shying away from nog accepting the facts that if the players are not doing well on the pitch, it os him that is not doing well too. He hates criticism and i think he should be criticized if that is what will make him improve the club performance or leave the club. Ten Hag needs to know how to be in good relationship with the players maybe that will help him in his job.

I think we have seen the best of Erik Ten Hag. Last season may be his best season managing Manchester United. ETH is the one that signed all the players at Manchester United aside from Garnacho and Mainoo who came from the academy. Casemiro who is being criticized by United fans is ETH signing. Half of the players are either his boys from Ajax or Dutch players. ETH has spent over 700m pounds. If you’re spending all this money and you’re the person doing all these signings, there is no excuse why you’re not winning games.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 14, 2024, 02:17:16 PM

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It seems like Liverpool and Manchester City are going to have a comfortable weekend ...

It turns out that I was completely wrong about my prediction on Liverpool. Tongue

Things don't go the way you want in football all the time in the end.

Liverpool really got a horrible result home against Nottingham. Things were going great for them actually but maybe they got a bit complacent, I don't know. They tried their best to equalize but couldn't even score a single goal. Jota was useless for 60 minutes and I can't say Nunez was very different either. Robertson was another player I didn't like the most. Sad

But anyways, these things happen in football. The important thing is to leave this behind and focus on the next game.

Shit happens this way at times. You might be in a red hot form only for the club to return back from the international break and lose form. They'll definitely bounce back up in the next two to three games to be played in the Premier League Competition. In general, they did great I'm not even gonna lie about it but Mo Salah and Co's should have buried the chances they had.
Great night for Chelsea tonight, one credit I want to give out would be to Chelsea's goalkeeper who was brilliant tonight. Also that Introduction of Tosin stabilized the defense tonight.
Enzo Maresca did a good substitution, Disasi shouldn't have started the game against Bournemouth in the first place. I believe he is match rusty and it was evident tonight.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on September 14, 2024, 10:59:41 AM

A good win for united at the end, it's not about whether Southampton were unlucky or not because at the end united played well and they for once deserved the win but the thing with united is that there is actually nothing certain about them maintaining the same form they used and showed in today game because I wouldn't be surprised that they actually played rubbish in their next game because that's exactly what they have been doing ever since.

I am more concerned about the future of the United this season, although I wish them well in their career pursuit this season to top the Premier league but that cannot be achieved with little wins. The united needs to win bigger matches and work on their consistency this season which has been the problem of the club lately. What is wrong with Man U, is not just the ability to be able to win games alone, but their ability to win both small and big games consistently to the extent that it can lift up a trophy for the club to celebrate.

Today, I celebrate with the Red Devils for their hardworking triumph to win Southampton with 3 goals to zero but that's not just enough to make Ten Hag savage Ronaldo with his famous qoute unbehalf of the Rashford goal, he really needs to learn how to take advantage of the squad depth available to him and use it to win big matches more consistently.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 14, 2024, 02:17:16 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on September 14, 2024, 05:43:01 AM

It seems like Liverpool and Manchester City are going to have a comfortable weekend ...

It turns out that I was completely wrong about my prediction on Liverpool. Tongue

Things don't go the way you want in football all the time in the end.

Liverpool really got a horrible result home against Nottingham. Things were going great for them actually but maybe they got a bit complacent, I don't know. They tried their best to equalize but couldn't even score a single goal. Jota was useless for 60 minutes and I can't say Nunez was very different either. Robertson was another player I didn't like the most. Sad

But anyways, these things happen in football. The important thing is to leave this behind and focus on the next game.

A very embarrassing defeat at home and made many bettors lose in this match. Everyone would have thought that Liverpool would have easily defeated Nottingham even though Nottingham had defeated 1 time in the previous 5 meetings but this is us talking about a home game that should have given 3 points.
Really disappointed with the performance Salah, Jota and Diaz who always had chances but seemed less aggressive. Maybe this is one of the reasons the international break certainly had a little effect on the performance of some players.
I'm sure Arne Slot will be blamed after this. Undecided

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 14, 2024, 04:25:00 AM

And lastly, I'll go for a home win and the game to produce 2+ goals in the Brighton vs Ipswich Town game

Brighton and Ipswich will be a great game, two of the teams that spent the most money this year, that should be something fun to watch. I believe that Brighton will still win, but it will be good to see because we would have a chance to see what can be done. We should consider this not a small game anymore because of the name of the teams because they actually spent some money to be good and Brighton ahs been great so far as well.

I believe that Liverpool will win and City will win too. These three games could be something to bet on, would be fine. Honestly games in premier league are almost always potentially shocking, we can see even a team like City end up losing, not happen that frequently but it happens just as when you do not expect it so betting isn't easy here.

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A superb performance by Manchester United against Southampton! I really enjoyed watching that.

They dominated especially the 2nd half. Southampton literally couldn't do anything in the whole 45 minutes.

de Ligt, Rashford and Garnacho scored their goals. It is nice to see de Ligt starting to adapt. Rashford really needed it after another horrible start to a new season. And of course, Garnacho benefited from his chance very well. I don't even know why Erik ten Hag insists on preferring Rashford over him... It doesn't make sense when we look at it from a general aspect. Garnacho has been much more consistent.

Anyway now I hope this would be enough to push them to get better results as of now.

Congratulations to Manchester United on there 3 zero away win against Southampton they are back on winning ways after losing there last two games in a row.
Southampton really played well in the first half of the game but they were unfortunate to convert any of there chances, Manchester United on the other hand have to make good use of there chances by scoring 2 goals in the first half of the game a goal from de Ligt and Marcus Rashford gave Manchester United a lead in the first half.
Of a true Garnacho has been consistent for Manchester United maybe Erik Ten Hag know his reasons why he have to start Rashford over Garnacho though both of them did well that game.

At least they deserve a Congratulations today by winning Southampton 3 zero, because normally in the beginning of the game was quite though for them Southampton players was struggling to score if not for the good save by Onana I think they would have been first to score in that game.

However I think one thing that normally disorganized Southampton in the game was the penalty, because it was when they finally miss the penalty that Manchester united Wake from there sleep and few minutes they score first goal that help them to dominate Southampton in the game. So hopefully I think they fully back to there winning ways.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on September 14, 2024, 10:59:41 AM

A good win for united at the end, it's not about whether Southampton were unlucky or not because at the end united played well and they for once deserved the win but the thing with united is that there is actually nothing certain about them maintaining the same form they used and showed in today game because I wouldn't be surprised that they actually played rubbish in their next game because that's exactly what they have been doing ever since.

If Manchester United couldn’t win Southampton, then it will be a bad one for them. I wasn’t too confident that they would win, but I was thinking they would win the match, but I never expected them to score three goals in the match. I was just surprised that Rashford was able to score a goal in the match. Rashford, which we know to always perform poorly in most matches was able to score in the match. I do say Rashford is among Manchester United's problems, and I don’t know why Ten Hag keeps on making use of him.

Since Manchester United were able to secure a win in today's match, then the pressure on ten hag will definitely be reduced, at least he will be able to breathe a little bit, but Manchester United winning against Southampton doesn’t mean there is improvement in their team.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 14, 2024, 05:43:01 AM

It seems like Liverpool and Manchester City are going to have a comfortable weekend ...

It turns out that I was completely wrong about my prediction on Liverpool. Tongue

Things don't go the way you want in football all the time in the end.

Liverpool really got a horrible result home against Nottingham. Things were going great for them actually but maybe they got a bit complacent, I don't know. They tried their best to equalize but couldn't even score a single goal. Jota was useless for 60 minutes and I can't say Nunez was very different either. Robertson was another player I didn't like the most. Sad

But anyways, these things happen in football. The important thing is to leave this behind and focus on the next game.

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The proof of how high-quality the Premier League is and how dangerous the teams in it are has emerged once again today. Liverpool played superiorly throughout the match and even returned a ball to the post, but lost to Nothingham Forest at home. Odoi entered the game later and scored the winning goal in the 72nd minute. With this result, Liverpool suffered their first defeat in the league.

A quite surprising result, after all this time Forest was finally able to get a win at Anfield. This is clearly a hard slap for Liverpool. Even though they dominated the match, but they faced a dead end because Forest really had a solid defense and their goalkeeper played quite impressively.

Quite annoying to have watched Liverpool lose their first game this season. It seem that they're not capable of playing small teams, what could have led to Liverpool losing to Nothingham Forest? they were all in form, and played outstandingly well, unfortunately, football happened to them, yet no one saw it coming.

From the head to head records, I didn't get a Nottingham win at Anfield in the past and thus, this Nottingham win at Anfield is its first win or maybe I missed it, don't know. But regardless, Liverpool really had bad luck in this home match because after all, Liverpool also really had dominance and or a very big effort in this match but the result still failed. Because, if for example Liverpool played badly then this defeat would not be bad luck but because Liverpool underestimated Nottingham but anyway, the reality is that Liverpool also still played well in this match but Nottingham was too strong and maybe also lucky.

With this defeat, it certainly makes Manchester City back to being the top team in the Premier League standings. Although it's still early in the season but still, with Manchester City managing to be a team without defeat so far, it still shows that Manchester City will still manage to dominate the Premier League this season.

Indeed it is a surprising defeat for Liverpool to loss to Nottingham Forest. However, that can be as a result of under estimating a club at some point that has lead to this , but it is no longer new it has happened before and it will still happen again where a club that is assume to be a weaker team goes home rejoicing in victory, indeed it was a big disgrace at Anfied and record has it that it is Nottingham Forest first victory at Anfied since 1969, Liverpool players over under estimated Nottingham Forest and thought is going to be just an easy ride probably a clean sheet after the their international duties but yet they struggled and man of the match Alex moreno made it happened at 72 minutes of the game and it ended.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 14, 2024, 11:27:43 AM

Quite annoying to have watched Liverpool lose their first game this season. It seem that they're not capable of playing small teams, what could have led to Liverpool losing to Nothingham Forest? they were all in form, and played outstandingly well, unfortunately, football happened to them, yet no one saw it coming.

Lol... It's quite unexpected but in champions league week like this, there used to be some shocking results because coaches, sometimes do rest key players which may have effect in the outcome of the game. In this case, Liverpool's coach played his first eleven and looking at the stats, the reds didn't play badly as they dominated in ball possession and shots on goal. Honestly, I'm not surprised by the result because just has you said, sometimes football happens but I'll be hoping they bounce back with a win in their next game.

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