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Quote from: Altryist on December 14, 2024, 08:04:21 AM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 14, 2024, 06:59:46 AM

This is a good development from Manchester United. Marcus Rashford to me has been static, he has refused to develop and it's right for Manchester united to cash in on him. Ruben Amorim has to be ruthless with his players,if he wants to achieve success at the club, and he must sell underperforming players that receives huge wages to be able to free space and generate funds to buy players that will align with his vision.

Don't think that Rashford is the player who is the cause of all the troubles for Manchester United, they can of course sell him, but it will not change anything for the better, it will only slightly relieve the wage bill, but will deprive the team of one of the forwards. It would be better for Amorim to try to reveal Rashford's full potential, than to try to sell him so quickly, although if he has already made such a decision, it is clear that he will do it.

In this context I agreed with you if the best thing Amorim did was find all the advantages possessed by Rashford, instead of Amorim selling it which might make Manchester United regret if other clubs he could show its best form.
Not Rashford is actually what needs to be considered to be released by Manchester United, but Onana and Antony. Of these two players can save the cost of club expenses.

For the front lines, Hojlund, Zirczee can be used well. Releasing the two players that I mentioned can be used as an option to find a new attacker.

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Tye Manchester city vs Manchester United is the biggest English premier league match this weekend on paper and based off the fact that it's the Manchester derby and the calibre of players and coaches involved but I strongly feel the most exciting game we would have in the English premier league this weekend is Liverpool vs Fulham.
Liverpool are in the form of their lives but Fulham is not a push over team and they have what it takes to hurt Liverpool.

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Quote from: skarais on December 13, 2024, 11:39:50 AM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 13, 2024, 10:36:26 AM

Actually, ten Hag and Amorim have quite significant differences in becoming coaches at Man United. At least it is about the way of communication and also tactics. Communication, maybe this seems simple, but as a coach, this is very important, establishing good communication between the coach and the players is very important in order to create a sense of solidity, closeness, and also discipline for the players under the coach.

It is common for a new coach to bring a new approach to the team he coaches including strategy and various other things. Establishing good relationships and mutual trust between coaches and players is something that will encourage good team performance. It is also necessary to strive for a passionate dressing room atmosphere, of course this is an equally important part in building good cooperation between players and coaches.

Ruben Amorin, with his capacity, certainly has differences with Ten Hag. I tend to see Amorim as a more ambitious trainer than Ten Hag, but this doesn't mean Ten Hag is bad at everything. Ten Hag was good in some parts, but he failed to reach the team's targets as expected.

Yes, of course, because of that, the new coach definitely needs time to adapt, and not only that, the players also need time to get used to their new coach, his tactics, and so on. And if what is said is true, at least, the players will not clash with the coach as often, as happened with Ten Hag at that time. But, well, indeed, once again, every coach may have his own approach.

The match I'm most looking forward to is this. I'm curious about how their performance will be here, Man United and also Man City, both are not in very good condition, especially Man City. They have their own challenges. Will Pep let his beloved club lose again this time to Man United? Well, I'm really curious.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 14, 2024, 08:04:21 AM

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This is a good development from Manchester United. Marcus Rashford to me has been static, he has refused to develop and it's right for Manchester united to cash in on him. Ruben Amorim has to be ruthless with his players,if he wants to achieve success at the club, and he must sell underperforming players that receives huge wages to be able to free space and generate funds to buy players that will align with his vision.

Don't think that Rashford is the player who is the cause of all the troubles for Manchester United, they can of course sell him, but it will not change anything for the better, it will only slightly relieve the wage bill, but will deprive the team of one of the forwards. It would be better for Amorim to try to reveal Rashford's full potential, than to try to sell him so quickly, although if he has already made such a decision, it is clear that he will do it.

Manchester united's problem can not be attributed to just one player and that's a fact, it will be very wrong to do such, but all the same, it is also not a bad thing to select the underperforming players who have refused to improve and sell them, use the money realized to buy in better players..

It is true (like I said before) that we can't attribute all the problems Manchester united have been through and still going through, to one player, but then, the problem is as a result of the collective action of some players, it's not wrong to sell those players.

A time comes in a man's life when if you've done your best in trying to fix something or someone, you let go, most especially if that thing or persons is dragging you backward.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad.

I am confident that Liverpool will be winning their match today, Fulham is not a club that’s going to give Liverpool a difficult moment, even as some of their players won’t be playing in the match, Liverpool is still having a stronger squad. I am expecting the match to be an easy one for Liverpool and am expecting them to score at least two goals in the match. Liverpool are currently in the position where they won’t want to lose any match for now. They played a draw in their last match against Newcastle, in which they dropped points, and Chelsea which is in second position is getting closer to them, so they will want to get a complete point against Fulham today.

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Quote from: naira on December 14, 2024, 04:02:14 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

The final result will be very predictable, regardless of how ambitious Fulham is to hold Liverpool, but they can always escape to maximize the opportunity. Even though it must end with a narrow score. Arne Slot seems to be very allergic to defeat in both the EPL and UCL. Although Liverpool can really be defeated by Fulham, it does not worry Arne Slot at the top of the standings.

Liverpool are doing well currently but that doesn’t make them unbeatable, Fulham has also been a stubborn team recently and so they won’t be an easy win for Liverpool even though Liverpool have every advantage to win them. Liverpool have the home advantage and also the fact that they have won couple of big matches in their recent games means they are in top form and winning Fulham shouldn’t be much of a problem.
Liverpool cannot afford to drop any points just yet because the title race is still very much open despite leading with 5 points already and also with an outstanding game to play which could extend it to 7 points lead ahead of Chelsea. With any point dropped Chelsea will draw closer because of the form they are currently and their remaining games are not that strong.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 14, 2024, 06:59:46 AM

This is a good development from Manchester United. Marcus Rashford to me has been static, he has refused to develop and it's right for Manchester united to cash in on him. Ruben Amorim has to be ruthless with his players,if he wants to achieve success at the club, and he must sell underperforming players that receives huge wages to be able to free space and generate funds to buy players that will align with his vision.

Don't think that Rashford is the player who is the cause of all the troubles for Manchester United, they can of course sell him, but it will not change anything for the better, it will only slightly relieve the wage bill, but will deprive the team of one of the forwards. It would be better for Amorim to try to reveal Rashford's full potential, than to try to sell him so quickly, although if he has already made such a decision, it is clear that he will do it.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

Liverpool is doing has a better chance ti win against Fulham and this is not a serious game to me because game predictions like this is very easy, because we know how Liverpool have been very consistent this season so there more strength in Liverpool than in Fulham, and I don't think Bradley will absence will affect there performance today and as far salah is in that game they will be have a hard time playing because we know how salah can be persistent when it comes to every game.

Liverpool will will not find it hard to deafest Fulham no matter how bad there situation is this are games that we can easily be able to predict and win, just that the winning odd is actually very small, and they will not put this game at stake they will do everything possible to win and Liverpool might look weak but there are enough chances for them to claim three point. And since the city are not shining this season then Liverpool and arsenal might have hope of winning.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 13, 2024, 10:46:02 PM

The arrival of Arne Slot has made Liverpool appearance this season back to being a team ready to challenge for the title race, his impressive performance has recorded 11 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss in the EPL. Facing Fulham in the 16th EPL game is not a tough challenge for Liverpool because the away team has only managed to win 2x in the last 5 games. Although Arne Slot cannot play several key players as starters in this game, the presence of the Trio of Cody Gakpo, Mo Salah, and Ruben Diaz will be the most terrible threat to Fulham.

Liverpool have never disappointed me this season, even after Jurgen Klopp left many people doubted Arne Slot. but we can see that Arne Slot does not need time to adapt, he automatically fits the players. It is very rare in any club especially the Premier League, for a change of coach to immediately continue a positive trend. Arne Slot came at the right time and was faced with mature players who were able to follow the coach's wishes.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 10, 2024, 05:21:50 PM

New rumours regarding Amorim's plans for Man United resurfaced today.
Media are reporting that United's star, Marcus Rashford, is no longer considered as "unsellable" and some other outlets outright speculate on Amorim wanting to get rid of him, citing his lifestyle and off-the-pitch distractions:
https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/10/manchester-united-superstar-no-longer-unsellable-one-key-reason-22158321/
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/12/10/marcus-rashford-transfer-2/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/12/10/manchester-united-open-sell-marcus-rashford-lifestyle/

I'm not a big fan of Rashford, but if he is to go away, United needs to find a proper replacement.

This is a good development from Manchester United. Marcus Rashford to me has been static, he has refused to develop and it's right for Manchester united to cash in on him. Ruben Amorim has to be ruthless with his players,if he wants to achieve success at the club, and he must sell underperforming players that receives huge wages to be able to free space and generate funds to buy players that will align with his vision.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

Konate is an important member of Liverpool defense. But hopefully Joe Gomez will maintain his decent performance. Mac Allister is a really important loss in the midfield. Sad

But in short I think Liverpool can make up for these absent players in this game while they are in good shape. They had better just be careful in this one. Because the opponent is Fulham and they just got a point from Arsenal you know.

Normally the head-to-head is dominated by Liverpool though. While they are having one of their best season in the recent years, I expect them not to lose any points at Anfield.

And yes, Liverpool are given only 1.31 odds so if you would like to raise the odds by taking more risks then their win by at least a gap of 2 goals could be given a chance @1.78.

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Quote from: naira on December 14, 2024, 04:02:14 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

The final result will be very predictable, regardless of how ambitious Fulham is to hold Liverpool, but they can always escape to maximize the opportunity. Even though it must end with a narrow score. Arne Slot seems to be very allergic to defeat in both the EPL and UCL. Although Liverpool can really be defeated by Fulham, it does not worry Arne Slot at the top of the standings.

Liverpool against Fullham should be an easy win for Liverpool, moreso because their last game against Everton was a draw, losing their coming game to Fullham could be very disastrous for them, they are currently in the top of the league table with 35 points, while chelsea is behind Liverpool with 31 points, Chelsea's last game against Tottenham was a win, and the next game they will play is against Brentford which they are likely to win as well.

So, if Liverpool must maintain their current position as the leader in the EPL league table, it is a must for them to beat Fullham, else they risk losing their top position to Chelsea if Chelsea will continue to maintain their winning streak.

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Quote from: naira on December 14, 2024, 04:02:14 AM

Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

The final result will be very predictable, regardless of how ambitious Fulham is to hold Liverpool, but they can always escape to maximize the opportunity. Even though it must end with a narrow score. Arne Slot seems to be very allergic to defeat in both the EPL and UCL. Although Liverpool can really be defeated by Fulham, it does not worry Arne Slot at the top of the standings.

We should not think that the opponent that Liverpool will face is a weak team even though our capacity and quality are better.
I don't want to be on your side regarding your statement about Arne Slot who is allergic to defeat even though in all competitions played it can be proven.
We just need to look after the other red team who really hope to return to the glory era. Arne Slot in his first season, started to step on the gas while the others were still struggling.

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Arsenal and Liverpool are optimistic they can win at home there is no belief they will lose, yes although I know this is a game anything can happen.
At least there will be no surprises.

The Manchester derby produced goals in both, it's still bad to choose City or United because they are performing equally bad in the Premier League.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 13, 2024, 10:46:02 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

The arrival of Arne Slot has made Liverpool appearance this season back to being a team ready to challenge for the title race, his impressive performance has recorded 11 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss in the EPL. Facing Fulham in the 16th EPL game is not a tough challenge for Liverpool because the away team has only managed to win 2x in the last 5 games. Although Arne Slot cannot play several key players as starters in this game, the presence of the Trio of Cody Gakpo, Mo Salah, and Ruben Diaz will be the most terrible threat to Fulham.

Liverpool have a chance to win the game, but I think Fulham will be able to put up a strong resistance in the game if we look at their performance in recent weeks, Liverpool have some key players that Fulham defense should watch out for, such as Gakpo, Salah, and Diaz who are often the motors of Liverpool attack, Liverpool this season has been consistent under their new coach, so getting 1 point from Liverpool will be a blessing for Fulham in my opinion.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

The final result will be very predictable, regardless of how ambitious Fulham is to hold Liverpool, but they can always escape to maximize the opportunity. Even though it must end with a narrow score. Arne Slot seems to be very allergic to defeat in both the EPL and UCL. Although Liverpool can really be defeated by Fulham, it does not worry Arne Slot at the top of the standings.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 11, 2024, 07:08:39 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on December 10, 2024, 05:21:50 PM

New rumours regarding Amorim's plans for Man United resurfaced today.
Media are reporting that United's star, Marcus Rashford, is no longer considered as "unsellable" and some other outlets outright speculate on Amorim wanting to get rid of him, citing his lifestyle and off-the-pitch distractions:
https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/10/manchester-united-superstar-no-longer-unsellable-one-key-reason-22158321/
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/12/10/marcus-rashford-transfer-2/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/12/10/manchester-united-open-sell-marcus-rashford-lifestyle/

I'm not a big fan of Rashford, but if he is to go away, United needs to find a proper replacement.

There is nothing to defend, Rashford must put to the market to reduce the salary budget because he is a one player who have huge salary on old Trafford. Amorim's steps are correct, and must be supported by management for the refreshment of the squad. there are many substitutions for him, or if Amorim really want to recruit another player to replace Rashford, Gyokeres is one attacker who suitable for his scheme. He's not good also in the hands of a new coach of Sporting, he is no longer sharp when not trained by amorim, so here's a chance to calling him to old Trafford on January windows transfer.

Yes, it is time for Manchester United to release Marcus Rashford because currently his contribution is not so sharp in the front line and is not commensurate with his high salary, there are many options to recruit a replacement striker for Marcus Rashford so the club does not need to be confused if they lose this player, Viktor Gyokeres is Amorim's mainstay player when he was at Sporting, the coach can bring him into the Man United squad in the next transfer window, I think Amorim can woo him because he has a good relationship with the coach and is more suited to Amorim's coaching system than the new coach at Sporting.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2024, 07:04:57 PM

Liverpool are favored 74% to win tonight versus Fulham. There is nothing to doubt when we look at how they performed in this session. But, I heard the news some key players not be able to come for tonight's match due to injury, Conor Bradley, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, and Mac Allister (accumulated yellow card) are absent to strengthen the squad. But, I am sure even they are not reinforced, Liverpool is still powerful to face Fulham, and I think there's no harm if you want to bet Liverpool win with 2 different goals or all in bet on Liverpool only. Liverpool will obviously reverse not good results from last week.

The arrival of Arne Slot has made Liverpool appearance this season back to being a team ready to challenge for the title race, his impressive performance has recorded 11 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss in the EPL. Facing Fulham in the 16th EPL game is not a tough challenge for Liverpool because the away team has only managed to win 2x in the last 5 games. Although Arne Slot cannot play several key players as starters in this game, the presence of the Trio of Cody Gakpo, Mo Salah, and Ruben Diaz will be the most terrible threat to Fulham.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on December 13, 2024, 12:39:51 PM

Rashford is not really helping the club and their is no sign of improvement, I don't think it is a wrong idea to replace him when their is no significant change with the huge amount of money he earns.

The most important thing is to see Manchester United performing better again and if their is need to replace some players then it must something that needs to be done. Most of the players Manchester United have are not proactive and they are not making any effort to perform better. I believe bring new players will make a good difference and that is what Manchester United needs right now.

Maybe he is underperforming due to the lose of his cousin? Well, its easy to criticise until you lose someone very close, you'll never understand... But players should have been taught about balancing, no? Or could this be due to his relationship? Since Ole Gunner Solskjear I never fancied him. Most of these players wouldn't have made it to the previous set of players who played under Sir Alex Ferguson. They lack standards.

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Quote from: KingsDen on December 12, 2024, 12:31:38 PM

Quote from: Altryist on December 12, 2024, 12:09:24 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on December 11, 2024, 07:08:39 PM

There is nothing to defend, Rashford must put to the market to reduce the salary budget because he is a one player who have huge salary on old Trafford. Amorim's steps are correct, and must be supported by management for the refreshment of the squad. there are many substitutions for him, or if Amorim really want to recruit another player to replace Rashford, Gyokeres is one attacker who suitable for his scheme. He's not good also in the hands of a new coach of Sporting, he is no longer sharp when not trained by amorim, so here's a chance to calling him to old Trafford on January windows transfer.

I have been hearing these rumours since the first days when Amorim came to the team, and now, since ten Hag has spent a lot of money on transfers that have not brought any results, Amorim could be given a condition that if he wants to get money for new transfers, he needs to decide which players he is ready to sell. Rashford is a good forward, but he does not show consistency, which for a high-level forward should be a mandatory feature. I did not want Rashford to leave Manchester United, this club has been his dream since childhood.

I have always said that there is a big difference between a coach and a manager. While the coach is so much interested about the football and the result that comes there in, a manager has a much larger work than a coach. I expect the new Manchester United coach to be a manager and not only a coach. The formation and the salary structure of Manchester United is one of the things that are making them not to be productive. I do not understand why someone like rashford cannot leave the club and I do not also count him as a world class player. Yet these players go home weekly with world class salaries. These are lazy set of players and if Amorim doesn't change them, they will change him.

Manchester United manager and management must be strict about this. Players who are performing well for the club and contributing well to the club should be given priority to sell those players who are only earning high wages and not performing well. There are many good players who can be expected to perform better even if they are paid half of these players. A good quality manager plays a very important role for a club.

A manager will decide which players will play and which players will sit on the bench. Also in the middle of the game which player he will bring up and on the contrary which player he will play that place, these are all very important decisions. And because of this important decision, the result of the match sometimes goes out of their hands and comes back into their own hands.

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